Shirou Kotomine Explained Part 2 - Fate Apocrypha | ABILITIES & PAST

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@SuperAmaton
@SuperAmaton 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks for this revelation. There are a few points that you missed or missinterpreted though. The Grail in Fate/Apocrypha is not tainted with the Curses of Angra Mainyu, because it was Shriou that was summoned. If a wish is made upon it, it won't start speweing forth destruction like in Fate Zero and Fate Stay Night. However, it still can "only" amlify a Method as was shown in Fate Zero. The diffrence though is that Angra Mainyu showed Kiritsugu only the absolute worst that would come from his wish, not the good things. I am not sure if the Baptism Rite is all that was shown so far. Yes, Shirou can use it to attack Spiritual Bodies such as Servants, but it might actually be the Sacraments of the Church as a Skill.
@originalShorai
@originalShorai 6 жыл бұрын
To add to this Shirou isn't limited to just his seals as a ruler and individual master since he took the command seals from the other Masters of the Red Faction, ultimately acting as the singular master of seven servants by himself. That in itself may or may not have limited his own abilities just because of how freakishly strong his servants were.
@DamienTheCat
@DamienTheCat 6 жыл бұрын
Kirei's wish was granted not Kiritsugu's. In the VN the Grail essentially brings itself to Kirei in his mind and beckoned for him to make a wish right after Kiritsugu shoots him. Angra Mainyu reaches out to Kirei in anger of being rejected by Kiritsugu and because of Kirei's similar disdain. Angra Mainyu also speaks to Gilgamesh when he is absorbed by the Scalding Mud. Angra tried to corrupt and posses Gil to come forth into the world, but Gilgamesh's ego staves off Angra, and he's spit from the mud.
@SuperAmaton
@SuperAmaton 6 жыл бұрын
Acosmist Nono, you missunderstand. I didn't mean that Kiritsugu caused the fire, it's commond knowledge it was Kirei. I simply meant that Angra makes the wishes true in the worst possible way.
@nox_cadit
@nox_cadit 6 жыл бұрын
Can you explain me the difference between the two Grails? I have noticed that the Apocrypha one seems to be more pure, and I know that the one from the main story line is kind of corrupted, but I believed that only in Stay Knight that the Grails was corrupted. What is this Angra Mainyu you talk about? And I didn't really got all the Shiro stuff, this Shiro is other Shiro? And what is that stuff about the Avenger he talked about in the first video?
@fuynnywhaka101
@fuynnywhaka101 6 жыл бұрын
Basically Since in the 3rd Holy grail war in the Apocrypha time line Avenger (the Poor Bastard who bared the name Angra Mainyu) was never summoned and instead Amakusa shiro was summoned. In the Main Fate/ Stay Night , time line when Avenger was summoned he was useless as he was just some poor bastard who was Tortured and made to figuratively bear "All the Worlds Evils" , he died early on and was inside the grail. the wish that was granted was not his, but that of People who sacrificed him "To Become All of the Worlds Evils".... thats why more or less in Fate/Stay Nights time line the Grail was corrupted
@kkagami4782
@kkagami4782 6 жыл бұрын
Shirou won't win though lol, even though he's a better protaganist and character than Sieg, he still dies in the end
@blue6sub6remnant6
@blue6sub6remnant6 6 жыл бұрын
As an antagonist, Amakusa-san deserved a better protagonist foil than "Sumanai" in homunculus form. Sieg is wishy-washy, boring, and simply not compelling because he is (predominantly) a passive actor; rather than trying or doing anything that moves the plot forward, he just kind of is there. This is in stark contrast Amakusa Shirou, who is, when on screen either moving the plot forward, either by his machinations or by exposing something the audience had thusfar not been privy to.
@meghansullivan3258
@meghansullivan3258 6 жыл бұрын
PARAGON VOX seriously why God Dam you
@soarel325
@soarel325 6 жыл бұрын
His passivity is exactly the reason Sieg is not the protagonist, Jeanne is.
@sketchstevens5859
@sketchstevens5859 5 жыл бұрын
@@soarel325 Jeanne was also a boring protagonist and was fairly passive.
@kaenryuuart543
@kaenryuuart543 3 жыл бұрын
@@sketchstevens5859 jeanne is not the protagonist, astolfo is
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus. The Avenger looks like he fell asleep at a party and there was a plethora of markers laying about.
@cake6851
@cake6851 6 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy with a Mustache You know that's kind of accurate. But that's not his real appearance
@kiriekamui248
@kiriekamui248 6 жыл бұрын
Just Some Guy with a Mustache If you knew how he got these marks. It's like a gory version of your story lol
@zezneyzig8970
@zezneyzig8970 6 жыл бұрын
Can u not be everywhere please.
@justinhalim9746
@justinhalim9746 6 жыл бұрын
That's Angara Mainyu
@futbolcrazy13rc
@futbolcrazy13rc 6 жыл бұрын
Who is the avenger? Where does this guy get that info?
@DarkBanks3
@DarkBanks3 6 жыл бұрын
Well, isn't the whole reason the grail did bad shit in the Stay Night timeline because Angra Mainyu had corrupted it, so that would mean if he made a wish for salvation on the uncorrupted grail, it should actually work
@shinji136
@shinji136 6 жыл бұрын
Not quite, because the Grail is still not omniscient. It can still only work in a way that the user knows of, that's why wishes like saving humanity will always be impossible even if the Grail is not corrupted.
@DarkBanks3
@DarkBanks3 6 жыл бұрын
A B as far as I was aware the Greater Grail IS referred to as an omniscient wish granting device, that's according to everyone except Angra Mainyu, unless you know of something im missing (im not trying to be an ass btw)
@shinji136
@shinji136 6 жыл бұрын
ShadowBanks3 Not an ass at all! At first I had the same doubt. Here's the thing. The Holy Grail is a tool that works by using the magical energy of defeated Servants. Servants are such overpowered existence with huge amounts of Mystery that of course, it seems possible for the Grail to grant any wish by virtue of the sheer energy available. However, a tool is a tool in the end. It can only work along with the knowledge of the user. It's like having a gun that can shoot through anything, but if you don't know where to aim or how to handle it, it is effectively useless for certain things.
@chiku4996
@chiku4996 6 жыл бұрын
Lesser Grail is in Fate/Zero lel, it got corrupted so more bad stuff. Greater Grail will probably work miracles now.
@shinji136
@shinji136 6 жыл бұрын
iZed Mark The Lesser Grail is in both wars, Irisviel being it in Zero and Ilya and Sakura being Lesser Grails in Stay Night. It's not a different tool, but simply a physical link to the Greater Grail which is Justeaze. The function is the same, and a tool made by man can still not grant vague, extremely vast wishes like that.
@noheartx9992
@noheartx9992 6 жыл бұрын
One problem: Kiritsugu's wished ended up as a blood bath because by that time the Grail had already been tainted by the aforementioned Avenger. No matter what wish was made on Grail-kun at that point it would have been a tragedy.
@wodahexe8400
@wodahexe8400 5 жыл бұрын
Why would the Greater Grail interpret Shirou’s wish in a similar manner to how it did Kiritsugu’s? The only reason that happened was because, in the original timeline, Angra Mainyu’s presence in the Grail corrupted it. But, as stated in the video, Amakusa Shirou summoned by the Einzbern family for the Third Holy Grail War under the Ruler class; the Grail should not be corrupted in the Apocrypha timeline.
@icecubus1014
@icecubus1014 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus or not, he still won't defeat Sieg's plot armor._.
@somerandompersonwhoclicked1777
@somerandompersonwhoclicked1777 6 жыл бұрын
Kirito with brown hair?
@mightyshady1016
@mightyshady1016 5 жыл бұрын
If karna couldnt do it
@sarielxii
@sarielxii 5 жыл бұрын
B E T
@liquorsnake
@liquorsnake 5 жыл бұрын
Damn it
@jeremyissachar
@jeremyissachar 5 жыл бұрын
@James Schulte i dont think even my guy 682 would be able to defeat it😢
@LucasXian
@LucasXian 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty good video! Just to note, Fate/Zero's HGW ended like that because the grail was corrupted by Angra Mainyu. The Grail in Apocrypha isn't corrupted (since Angra wasn't summoned), so it will work as intended. There is actually a case where 2 wishes were granted successfully without any negative outcomes (kind of).
@HeartFeathers
@HeartFeathers 6 жыл бұрын
Lucas Xian which two?
@shinji136
@shinji136 6 жыл бұрын
The Grail is still not omniscient, so a large scale wish like saving humanity is still too vast and vague to be granted properly.
@Mav10
@Mav10 6 жыл бұрын
it was explained that by materializing everyone's spirit, everyone would be immortal and that no one has to die nor be sad.
@applewithsword616
@applewithsword616 5 жыл бұрын
but they weren't also feel anything. they wasn't gonna be human
@KajoroBitterthorn
@KajoroBitterthorn 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get all the backstory on Shirou Kotomine? The 3rd Holy Grail War of Apocrypha sounds soooo interesting! I'd love to find out more. Do you think they'd ever be able to make an anime out of that too? Like a Fate/Zero Apocrypha? It would really help fill in the gaps in this anime adaptation the way Zero cleared up Stay Night.
@21ZEN21
@21ZEN21 6 жыл бұрын
He reminds me alot of future Shirou from UBW... and also the colours of the magic Shirou was using are also the same as the colour of the blades in UBW and also at the same hand where it is wielded
@21ZEN21
@21ZEN21 6 жыл бұрын
Other note it is really nice to make as close as possible to alternate version
@heroicspiritemiya6458
@heroicspiritemiya6458 6 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about me?
@opinionofmine3238
@opinionofmine3238 6 жыл бұрын
I want him to win, even if I know it won't happen. Also I thought the grail was corrupted because of the avenger going into it?
@AniNews
@AniNews 6 жыл бұрын
+Opinionofmine Ya it was. But the grail might do something similar to achieve his absurd wish of saving mankind. Like the grail might consider the only way of saving everyone is to kill everyone so that no1 can hurt any1 anymore. Just a speculation. I dont actually know what the grail would do if that wish was cast haha
@opinionofmine3238
@opinionofmine3238 6 жыл бұрын
Guess we'll have to see XD Great job on the videos, keep up the great work! I'll go get a vote on caster though I'm a little afraid that it will mean major spoilers...
@animerocks76
@animerocks76 6 жыл бұрын
AniNews okay was watching your vid and say you brought up the end of the forth war and while I see you know the grail only did that cause of avenger it wouldn't be able to wipe out humanity unless that's the only shirou saw to save humanity. although the grail does have some sentience it only acts on the will and method of the wish maker. see what they don't talk about in the zero anime is that while avenger did corrupt the grail kiritsugu would be unable to achieve what he wanted if the corruption never happened. cause the grail is a tool it has no idea how to implement wishes without a known method. which is why kiritsugu wish would have kill everybody he only knew the method of killing the few to save the many. anyway the reason shirou wish would not do this is because he wants to use the grail to annihilate all the world's evils from the heart of people so pretty much brainwash everyone to be a saint.
@parabebe2499
@parabebe2499 6 жыл бұрын
Opinionofmine that's something I really don't understand though. I thought the only reason the grail was corrupted was because the avenger was summoned and all that was summoned will return to the grail which is what made the grail become corrupted. But if the ruler was summoned instead of the avenger then how is the grail corrupted?
@opinionofmine3238
@opinionofmine3238 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry are you asking me my own question? I guess you live up to your name Paradoxical lol
@statictrance7798
@statictrance7798 6 жыл бұрын
“Foundation of Heaven’s Blessing” that’s actually a good sounding name, rolls nicely.
@gundambassexe31
@gundambassexe31 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome fate apocrypha video !
@darkprinc979
@darkprinc979 5 жыл бұрын
Actually the fourth holy grail war didn't end that way because of a wish, it ended that way because Kiritsugu ordered Saber to destroy it, which sent the corrupted magical energy that had been built up spilling out into the city. It would have probably been worse if Kiritsugu had actually managed to make a wish.
@gfullcrayon562
@gfullcrayon562 3 жыл бұрын
The way you said “please” so cute made me go and vote for Castoro read 4 years later
@Astrithor
@Astrithor 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, man, loving these videos, great job, and thank you. I have one very tiny issue that, if you'd address, I'd be SUPER grateful for. The pronunciation for Semiramis is (approximately) Suh-meer'-uh-miss. That is literally my only issue, and everything else about these videos is great. Thank you so much.
@GhostEmblem
@GhostEmblem 6 жыл бұрын
Loving how hard you're pushing caster of red good luck
@sebastianperalta5139
@sebastianperalta5139 6 жыл бұрын
Really good video. It helped me clear some of my doubts.
@ulasaktas88
@ulasaktas88 5 жыл бұрын
It’s simple, I see Shirou, I click like.
@rebelblade7159
@rebelblade7159 5 жыл бұрын
If he thinks forcing immortality to remove desire for survival would save mankind then he really needs to see how the adventurers acted in Log Horizon before the formation of the Round table by Shiroe. But then again that also proves how immortality isn't that bad as many Sieg fanboys claim. In conclusion his wish wouldn't change the overall nature of humans themselves that much. He could go the mind control to perfect beings route but that will backfire. Seen that happen in Tales of Berseria.
@Pip1397
@Pip1397 6 жыл бұрын
Part 2 Yay!
@lincolnbeckett8791
@lincolnbeckett8791 6 жыл бұрын
Wait a second, their are a lot of scenes I swear I've never seen before.
@AniNews
@AniNews 6 жыл бұрын
+Lincoln Beckett-Scott Oh boy. Abort my dude.
@itsjoesantos9553
@itsjoesantos9553 6 жыл бұрын
Lincoln Beckett-Scott Did you only watch season 1 on Netflix... Cause there are like 8 more episodes out right now that are not on Netflix
@saitansk8er
@saitansk8er 6 жыл бұрын
Where can you find the other episodes that are not on Netflix?
@itsjoesantos9553
@itsjoesantos9553 6 жыл бұрын
saitansk8er 9anime.is or Kissanime.io If one doesn't work try the other
@Frozenkex
@Frozenkex 6 жыл бұрын
dont use illegal streaming sites. Either wait netflix or use torrents. dont give ad money to shit like that. I suggest just waiting for Netflix if you have netflix, especially if you watched dubbed, cuz only netflix will have dub.
@Althemor
@Althemor 6 жыл бұрын
Since he was summoned instead of Avenger the Grail should be fine, right?
@pungivergiverofpuns3611
@pungivergiverofpuns3611 6 жыл бұрын
Sephok yeah, no avenger no evil god to corrupt it.
@paulolucero9864
@paulolucero9864 6 жыл бұрын
Sephok tell me one time that the grail isn't fucking up for some stupid magic reason
@james13sylar
@james13sylar 6 жыл бұрын
Only in this case, since the reason why its always fucked up is because the Einzbern summoned Avenger in the third war in the OG timeline, in this one, is Ruler, so the grail is safe. Of course, having Amakusa to wish for humans to become happy and perfect is going to probably cause some Evangelion level shit on its own, not because the grail but because Amakusa only sees humanity salvation through putting them on a dream or remaking humanity to dissolve their violent instincts, remove their wishes and identity.
@johnboydstun803
@johnboydstun803 6 жыл бұрын
... could it be that Shirou Emiya from the stay night timeline is supposed to be This Shiro's Reincarnation?? would explain the "shiro"face LOL
@kaenryuuart543
@kaenryuuart543 3 жыл бұрын
Someone theorize that this shiro is an what if scenario where instead of kiritsugu it's kirei that adopted shirou
@callisto1234
@callisto1234 6 жыл бұрын
In the original timeline, avenger: Angra Mainyu corrupted the grail during the third grail war. In THIS timeline avenger was not summoned and instead it was ruler:amakusa tokisada shirou, so no grail corruption. I would want Karna to win the grail but god forbid they actually let a lancer win something.....
@argentophoenix6892
@argentophoenix6892 5 жыл бұрын
I really do hope you can do Charlemagne soon from Fate/Extella Link
@edwardmass4466
@edwardmass4466 6 жыл бұрын
This character is so hype, he needed a second part just to explain his functions.
@amarei9932
@amarei9932 6 жыл бұрын
In anime his sword, Miike Tenta is sword that Yagyu Jubei loved in Japan History
@liquorsnake
@liquorsnake 5 жыл бұрын
Any timeline shiruo is broken
@zhugeliangel-melloiii9342
@zhugeliangel-melloiii9342 6 жыл бұрын
Even with the finale of Apocrypha, it is quite obvious that the results of Fate/Zero could not happen. The reason Fate/Zero ended the way it did was because the Einsberns summoned the avenger servant Angra Mainyu who ultimately lost the war and corrupted the greater grail. This causes any wish granted by the grail to have a nasty twist.
@simpleandcleanedits3846
@simpleandcleanedits3846 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question. If he can use any type of magic spell/ infinite magic abillity, or whatever does that mean if he was given the time could he master all spells and become stronger in stats or become a grand caster of some sorts?
@yuuristan2019
@yuuristan2019 6 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I’m all caught up on the anime and I’ve never seen these scenes, bruh how
@dx7689
@dx7689 3 жыл бұрын
His fight with seig is one of my top favorites in the fate series.
@みんみん-l2q7s
@みんみん-l2q7s 3 жыл бұрын
ドクターX私失敗しないので😒😒😒😌😉
@19Rena96
@19Rena96 2 жыл бұрын
not the ending tho, since I was rooting for Kotomine to win and not sieg
@dx7689
@dx7689 2 жыл бұрын
@@みんみん-l2q7s sorry can you send a translation of this? I barely understand the emoji. Is that irritated or pms, constipated, pouting. Gimme some clues.
@dx7689
@dx7689 2 жыл бұрын
@@19Rena96 too each their own dude.
@Archangel_Kali
@Archangel_Kali 5 жыл бұрын
I want to point out that the only reason the Grail causes such destruction is because it was corrupted by the Avenger in the third Holy Grail War, and on that note, he was summoned instead of the Avenger. The Grail will still actually grant wishes in this world.
@renyuuzu
@renyuuzu 3 жыл бұрын
Just asking, where all the info about the third grail war came from? It came from some spinoff or OVA? Or was it in the light novel? Because i just watched Fate/Apocrypha's anime and most of the info about Amakusa that is in this video, wasn't there and i really wanna watch/read it.
@thomasthecoolkid7228
@thomasthecoolkid7228 5 жыл бұрын
"...to either the Avenger, who they thought would be an absolute beast and just totally wreck everyone with sheer force..." Editor Ani: "they were wrong" BIG LOL
@johngreatfox1382
@johngreatfox1382 6 жыл бұрын
Apocrypha is a parallel world where the 4th holy grial war is apocrypha and not zero. correct?
@PrimarisUltramarine
@PrimarisUltramarine 6 жыл бұрын
sira baiprasert basically, yes.
@johngreatfox1382
@johngreatfox1382 6 жыл бұрын
then what does it mean that this isnt a different timeline? because its is a different timeline to the main story?
@chiku4996
@chiku4996 6 жыл бұрын
sira baiprasert this is after third grail war with the intervention of Darnic. Also, in fate/hollow ataraxia, Avenger had an Einzbern Master, which is unnamed.
@chiku4996
@chiku4996 6 жыл бұрын
sira baiprasert parallel would be the perfect word. Zero and Apocrypha are two different conclusions, whether Darnic interfered or not.
@johngreatfox1382
@johngreatfox1382 6 жыл бұрын
+iZed Mark Thanks, man :)
@mikejimenez6556
@mikejimenez6556 3 жыл бұрын
when I was watching fate apocrypha and found out his name was shirou kotomine I though that it was a version of shirou emiya that was taken in by kirei after kirei won the fourth holy grail war in this alternate timeline.
@bellamydoucette9530
@bellamydoucette9530 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, especially in the scene where he was asleep at semiramis's lap. He was having a dream of a fire (which was the aftermath of Shimabara Rebellion) and i mistook it for the great fire at the end of fate/zero
@samarius_art_and_games
@samarius_art_and_games 3 жыл бұрын
Wishing to save the world in Apocrypha wouldn't end the way it did in Zero, since Angra wasn't able to corrupt it.
@fushyfushh
@fushyfushh 6 жыл бұрын
AniNews, you posted this on my birthday! ✝️
@AniNews
@AniNews 6 жыл бұрын
+Nathan Sherpa Ayeee Happy Birthday my dude. I hope you have a great day :D
@fushyfushh
@fushyfushh 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@egorolender2577
@egorolender2577 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering why video of fate apocrypha has music from fate zero lol anyhow I like music from fate zero most and videos you make are a good content affordable even for slow people. Thank you.
@Taldriel
@Taldriel 6 жыл бұрын
I think if he wishes for salvation it will not end like fate/zero, because the reason for the corruption of the grail in the stay night timeline is the summoning of avenger angra mainyu. since he has never been summoned the grail is not corrupted and should function like it is supposed to.
@przemekwielgosz421
@przemekwielgosz421 6 жыл бұрын
you're missing one point thou, grail in fate/zero is already corrupted by the avenger, or rather the grail that did its job and fulfilled everyone's wish and literally became the source of all evil, corrupting every single wish. Which is not the case in this timeline, grail is still uncorrupted and will properly grant any wish.
@padraigwilson2173
@padraigwilson2173 6 жыл бұрын
I quite like this whole layout of Amasuka Shiro but there was one thing i was confused about. In the fate zero/stay night time lines the grail was corrupted during the third grail war when avenger "the embodiment of all the world's sins" was killed and his essence was absorbed by the grail. This was what turned the grail into the item of destruction we see in those timelines. Since Shiro was summoned instead of avenger in this timeline wouldn't the grail not be corrupted in this timeline?
@noicegreatness168
@noicegreatness168 6 жыл бұрын
Where do you find these scenes by the way, Like a lot of the scenes you find look really interesting but I just can’t find them such as shirou fighting Vlad.
@LuciferOG
@LuciferOG 6 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the Nazi's *insert pic of eir major from Hellsing* i cqnt be the only one that hears abridged alucard in the distance "f*cking called it"
@shinobu3617
@shinobu3617 6 жыл бұрын
The only mistake I can spot immediately in this video is when mentioning that the grail would do the same as in Fate/Zero had Shiro made his wish. This cannot be right, since the grail is not corrupt in this universe. Avenger was the one who corrupted it after all, and Shiro was summoned in his stead in this universe.
@travisoliver6741
@travisoliver6741 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that he got that detail wrong, but it actually isn't a mistake. The wish would do the same thing, exterminate humanity, just in different ways. In F/SN, had Shirou made his wish, the Grail would murder every human with the mud, as there won't be any suffering with humanity if there isn't humanity. In F/A, if Shirou made his wish, he'd get it. Heaven's Feel would activate, and humanity would ascend. Then it goes the shit. As Fate/Extella reveals, if humans died or ascend to fast, they would reach an evolutionary dead end. They would then be "cut" from the multiverse, and culled. Depending on how one interprets "culling the reality", Shirou either destroys the entire planet and all life on it (humans included), or he's commits omnicide on the Universe.
@soarel325
@soarel325 6 жыл бұрын
travis oliver Wrong. Amakusa’s plan would not do that. first off, that was a retcon introduced several years after apocrypha was finished. Second, nothing is mentioned about amakusa’s immortality plan having any relation to that process. Third, it’s a thing that only happens in the extra timeline anyways. The pruning thing is a Moon Cell thing, and the moon cell is only a thing in Extra. He did nothing wrong and should have won.
@ulisesotero9240
@ulisesotero9240 5 жыл бұрын
Soarel I just finished watching it some time ago and actually it is said that shiros wish to save humanity would only be possible for the grail on reasonable terms which means if someone wishes for money it will only be possible for the grail to grant it on reasonable means like wining the lottery or inheritance but since the wish is only meant to be possible if the person wishing for it already knows a way to fulfill the wish this is explained in the series so shiros way to fulfill his wish is to give the humankind the third magic basically means giving the humans immortality but by doing this it also complicates their future since no one will ever die that’s why (spoilers ahead) at the end of the series siege becomes a dragon and steals the gift of immortality from humankind so that no human can ever obtain it .
@عليمحسنعلي-ط2ل
@عليمحسنعلي-ط2ل 6 жыл бұрын
Wow midel East character always powerful like semiramis , gilgamesh, hassan crused arm ..... I wish see more of them
@JerzeyBoy
@JerzeyBoy 3 жыл бұрын
I just came back here to brush up on how my main ruler servant has a Magical M87 Black Hole.
@PetelProduction
@PetelProduction 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get all that info? from the novels?
@mosiahcostadonascimento9501
@mosiahcostadonascimento9501 6 жыл бұрын
Some of the scenes shown in this video (about Shirou) are not in the Fate Apocrypha, like the one of him using his powers...the two glowing stuff on his arms. When does the anime show that?
@CallMeNoa
@CallMeNoa 6 жыл бұрын
Mosiah Costa do Nascimento Did you watch Apocrypha on Netflix? Netflix doesn't have season 2 yet but it has aired in Japan, that's where it's from.
@mosiahcostadonascimento9501
@mosiahcostadonascimento9501 6 жыл бұрын
Reign really? I had the impression Netflix had it before. Did they remove it, or that's only my impression?
@FerociousMit
@FerociousMit 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish we would see the original shirou, having the fate zero story, but it then follow a what if shirou lived with the church instead, being raised by the kieri kotomine. This shirou isn't the same at all, but is designed after the original, I wanna see the original go down the wrong side in a what if, not some random spirit.
@michealvillanueva8038
@michealvillanueva8038 6 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS PLEASE DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED THE SERIES FATE APOCRYPHA: Does anyone know what servent the mage was talking about on episode 25 when the boy from the yggedimillenia came to the clock tower school and he was talking to him self then opens a little box with a red piece of cloth in it? Does it have to do with Shirou Emiyas heroic spirit or something else?
@uh123able
@uh123able 6 жыл бұрын
That mage is Waver Velvet and the red cloth is the catalyst to summon Rider (Alexander the Great)
@kiriekamui248
@kiriekamui248 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting still I have some questions about the content. You said the result of Shirou using the Grail for his wish would likely produce the same result as in Fate Zero. I think we both know it's wrong since the mud exists because of "All the Evils in the world" that didn't corrupt the grail back in Apo's 3rd World War. Then comes the "Shirou had it all prepared". While it seems that way, the reserve system of the Grail was activated by a totally neutral 3rd party aka a magus of the 50 men expedition from the ClockTower. This soldier isn't said to have any link to Shirou whatsoever. Shirou isn't said to have intervened and allowed the summoning of 14 servants. Plus how would he know Ruler would be Jeanne d'Arc. I mean he knew a 2nd ruler would be summoned but did you imply he knew that the ruler would be Jeanne? Or did I misunderstand? Well then there's Higashide's poor understanding of the Fuyuki Holy Grail War system and the fact that neither Semiramis nor Jack the Ripper should've been summoned but that's not your fault. It's still interesting videos and giving lore is always welcome.
@mod_123_
@mod_123_ 6 жыл бұрын
I like this anime
@shadowawakened9714
@shadowawakened9714 6 жыл бұрын
I like ur comment
@daviddeandean1307
@daviddeandean1307 5 жыл бұрын
Anime Hub
@mightyshady1016
@mightyshady1016 Жыл бұрын
Great video aside from the Shirou is not proficient in magic, so he could not be a caster bit. His FGO interlude explains how he would have been a caster if he was not so lucky to be summoned as a ruler.
@timtsai9285
@timtsai9285 5 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda disappointed that fate/apocrypha ended by Sieg randomly pulling bersekers self destruct Phantasm out of his ass, (which wasn't even enough to beat Mordred btw) somehow beating Shirou with it and also somehow surviving it even though it's a self-destruct Phantasm
@ulisesotero9240
@ulisesotero9240 5 жыл бұрын
Tim Tsai actually you are wrong he didn’t see the thing is when he got inside the grail he realized he was going to become the dragon fafnir due to Siegfried hearth so since he was gonna become a dragon he decided to fulfill his wish by stealing shiros wish from humanity also it is said that he was able to beat shiro because he was fighting with one arm and sieg had a blessing of the berserker Frankenstein and the heart of Siegfried that made him able to beat shiro also the big explosion that berserker used and the fact that since he’s an homunculi he’s like a tank of magic reserves
@Melpond347
@Melpond347 6 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna make one video about caster of red, Shakespeare ?
@weyloran2007
@weyloran2007 6 жыл бұрын
I’m still confused on one front. Since Shirou was not the last surviving master, he shouldn’t have been able to wish on the Grail, right? I can only think of one possibility, and it’s by using his Noble Phantasms (his arms) to break into the Grail before a Master is heeded as victor and therefore was granted a premature wish. The number of servants dropped below seven while Shirou was inside the Grail, so could it also be that he waited for enough Servants to fill the Grail before he could wish upon it? So by the time Sieg had been absorbed into the Grail as the victor of the GHGW, there was a total of twelve Servants and two Rulers dead. Another seven. Allowing for a second wish - Sieg’s wish - to be granted. That’s just my thoughts ;D I liked Apocrypha as a Fate fan, but it was honestly not a good anime, especially for those without the lore behind it all. Plus, yunno, I feel for Shirou, you can’t win against S-Rank Luck and plot armor combined...
@ulisesotero9240
@ulisesotero9240 5 жыл бұрын
Weyloran actually at the very beginning they say that the grail of the war that shiros survived was “stolen” so assuming the grail is the one from the war before this war he actually was able to ask for his wish because the grail was already full thanks to the sacrifice of the servants before the ones we are introduced in apocrypha
@Seelenverheizer
@Seelenverheizer 6 жыл бұрын
wierdly the apocrypha grail was not tainted by avenger. So it is actually able to grant wishes by not destroying everything and anyone.
@highdragon5310
@highdragon5310 6 жыл бұрын
Just saw part 1 a few hours and started to wonder where was part 2? Anyways I was actually going to vote for Karna, but I don't mind Shakespeare. Like everyone else I'm curious about why he was chosen to be a servent.
@Frozenkex
@Frozenkex 6 жыл бұрын
I had no idea what you were saying at 1:35 . You should also put the name on the screen probably, just in case. Fionn mac Cumhaill ... Oh i get it you pronounced it in engrish off of tm wiki. Well, it's an irish name, no reason to butcher it. Finn McCool, that's how it is usually pronounced in english
@zxshadowxz
@zxshadowxz 6 жыл бұрын
"You shouldn't underestimate the nazis" Well that's a sentence I never thought id hear
@Jinx-iw6zb
@Jinx-iw6zb 5 жыл бұрын
Brrrrraaaaaakkkamonogaaaaaa doitsu no kagakuwa sekai ichi
@clementeruafigueroa8612
@clementeruafigueroa8612 5 жыл бұрын
is there a fate series focusing on the holy grail war where shirou was a servant in this universe? if so whats it called?
@dantecrailman8861
@dantecrailman8861 5 жыл бұрын
The Shirou in this universe actually lived a normal life, never learning magecraft.
@Kingandhorse
@Kingandhorse 6 жыл бұрын
im so confused, is Shirou the red haired kid? The "I am the bone of my arrow" Because they have the same name and all yet they cant be the same as the stories are completely overlining eachother.
@amakusashirou3679
@amakusashirou3679 6 жыл бұрын
No
@MaestroAlvis
@MaestroAlvis 5 жыл бұрын
Why was it so important to get Semiramis? What did shirou do with the other catalysts that he got?
@zeph2_kold362
@zeph2_kold362 4 жыл бұрын
Hear me out, what if shirou kotomine is shirou emiya in a different universe, in fate/unlimited blades work archer warned us so what if this is him?
@redxhand
@redxhand 5 жыл бұрын
i dont understand his wish. I just felt it is very the same as kiritsugu but if it does... wont he take the free will of humanity? Conflict is part of us as humans right?
@dibel3669
@dibel3669 6 жыл бұрын
That guy looks just like marik
@meghansullivan3258
@meghansullivan3258 6 жыл бұрын
Nayelys Gonzalez yami Marik from Yugioh lol
@TsukyTheDark
@TsukyTheDark 6 жыл бұрын
I do not recall seeing the part with Shiro in spirit world and all that, which episode was that?
@AniNews
@AniNews 6 жыл бұрын
+Crimson Entity post credit scene from like 19 or somewhere around there.
@MonoReaper
@MonoReaper 6 жыл бұрын
The reason because Fate/Zeros grail didnt fullfill his wish was because back than instead a Ruler the Einzberns summonend a Avenger but he got killed due reasons and thus corrupted the grail as he got absorbed into it. Thats why the grail in the Fate Stay timeline with Emyia is a corrupted grail and different from the on in Apo where no Avenger was summonend and thus the greater grail was never corrupted. Tho Shiro wants the ancient root magic rather than the wish fullfilling device/power of the greater grail. (PS if i remember correctly the grail in Zero wasnt a greater grail it was a lesser grail thus it fullfilled the wish according to its own capabilitys of power it had thats why it went out of controle back than with the wish)
@cake6851
@cake6851 6 жыл бұрын
Reaper_V It went of control because of kirei
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 6 жыл бұрын
No, it went out of control because Angra Mainyu(Avenger/All of the World's Evils) fused with it in the 3rd grail war, corrupted the grail, and became it ego.
@Dervalanana
@Dervalanana 6 жыл бұрын
sanct has it right. So, Angra Mainyu is a concept from the old zoroastrian religion, where people believe that humans are inherently good AND evil. but, if they blame one person (child, from birth) for all the worlds evils, then the rest of the humans can be inherently good and pure. Thus, any bad wishes are from the child itself. So, by bearing the sins of humanity and providing for their happiness/salvation, he qualifies to exist in the throne of heroes. But since he didn't actually DO anything, he has no power, other than his existence as the embodiment of "6 billion curses of humanity". Thus, when he merged with the grail, a wish granting device, the 6 billion evil wishes meant things got pretty messed up.
@Animeniac77_Teemo_G0ne_Wild
@Animeniac77_Teemo_G0ne_Wild 6 жыл бұрын
4:27-4:35 Your welcome~
@akiofurukawa2263
@akiofurukawa2263 6 жыл бұрын
The grail will actually grant his wish, the only reason it didnt work in fate/zero is because avenger had corrupted it.
@ryanb200
@ryanb200 6 жыл бұрын
So I just watched this series on Netflix and saw a lot of footage in your video here that I don't remember seeing in the series. I also haven't seen anything about season 2 being out, so where's the additional footage coming from? Once instance of this is his conversation with rider at 4:13
@ulisesotero9240
@ulisesotero9240 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan B this is the apocrypha series on Netflix they have the unlimited blade works fate series
@Xanditbb
@Xanditbb 6 жыл бұрын
Is there season 2 footage in here or other fate series's footage? I am confused as season 2 hasn't been released yet.
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, did you just say that if he wished for the salvation of mankind, it would end the same way as it did in Fate/Zero? That's wrong. The reason it happened like that in F/Z was because the grail had been corrupted by Angra Mainyu(avenger/All the World's Evils). This didn't happened in the Apocrypha timeline.
@hansandiraputra9322
@hansandiraputra9322 6 жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate the power of nazi Hail hydra
@williampearson698
@williampearson698 4 жыл бұрын
Poor taste
@pierat3338
@pierat3338 5 жыл бұрын
I’m confused, did I miss something, or does he have no relevance to the Kotomine’s? He dresses like Kirei, uses exorcist black keys like Kirei, shares his surname with Kirei, but other than that has no connection to him nor his father?
@ulisesotero9240
@ulisesotero9240 5 жыл бұрын
Cynical Asshole he’s a foster kid of the kotomines due to the advantage he represented in the war
@simpleandcleanedits3846
@simpleandcleanedits3846 4 жыл бұрын
I have a question. If he can use any type of magic spell/ infinite magic abillity, does that mean if he was given the time could he master all spells and become a grand caster of some sorts?
@jp4431
@jp4431 4 жыл бұрын
5:58 he's basically just Scar from FMA
@sairo1489
@sairo1489 6 жыл бұрын
what is the anime where that yegdmellenia lancer appears when amakusa shirou was alive?
@cindyart6732
@cindyart6732 6 жыл бұрын
So...If we compare Fate franchise to Star Wars Franchise then the 3rd Holy Grail War is the Prequel Trilogy, Fate Zero's Grail War is the Original Trilogy and Fate Stay Night is Star Wars's Disney Sequel Trilogy...Right ?
@cj5785
@cj5785 6 жыл бұрын
Aren't rulers supposed to possess bodies of humans compatible to them as they cant be summoned normally? Does this mean that the Amakusa Tokisada in Apocrypha is using Shirou's body or??? Im confused
@heroicspiritemiya6458
@heroicspiritemiya6458 6 жыл бұрын
what do you mean?the body of which Shirou?Shirou Emiya?if thats what you mean then no, Shirou wasnt even born when Shirou Amakusa , and he is not using a body, that is his body, he is not an actual saint like Jeanne so he can be summoned normally
@cj5785
@cj5785 6 жыл бұрын
I see, makes sense. Thanks
@ulisesotero9240
@ulisesotero9240 5 жыл бұрын
CEEJ actually at the beginning of the series they said that jeanne needed to posses a body but this is not explained until they see that there is also another ruler (shiro) alive which means that shiro has a body of his own but Jeanne is possessing a girl since the grail granted her but shiro was brought to life thanks to the greater grail
@ashpalet
@ashpalet 6 жыл бұрын
If in this timeline avenger was never summoned but ruler was does that mean the grail is not cursed?
@noirknightzelgius384
@noirknightzelgius384 6 жыл бұрын
Jaden Joseph yes, ruler was summoned instead so it was never corrupted, aren't multiverse/time lines fun? lol
@ambervalkerie9134
@ambervalkerie9134 6 жыл бұрын
can someone explain to me how he creates blackholes with his arm in the second to last episode.
@ChuenLocke
@ChuenLocke 5 жыл бұрын
are u guys still doing this series?
@griffoverbey2863
@griffoverbey2863 6 жыл бұрын
Dude wtf is your problem with people preferring the female characters, I think it’s one of the best parts about fate. They created a series full of bad ass women who kick ass just as much as the males
@TheNagasadow
@TheNagasadow 5 жыл бұрын
Griff Overbey late but it's not that he has a problem with people preferring the female characters it's just that he wanted to do a video on Shakespeare.
@griffoverbey2863
@griffoverbey2863 5 жыл бұрын
Pedro Reyes I get that but I’ve watched all his fate videos because he did a good job BUT he literally complained about doing a lady EVERY TIME
@DeathGodRiku
@DeathGodRiku 6 жыл бұрын
Wait. I thought the family that summoned Lancelot in Zero was the Mato/Matou clan
@pablo9234
@pablo9234 6 жыл бұрын
yes it was them
@Empoleonman522the2
@Empoleonman522the2 6 жыл бұрын
I don't care if we have no more waifus to choose.......why 90 percent of us are here......Nice job on the vids though :3
@flordelizaespejo1520
@flordelizaespejo1520 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that shirou was the shirou with pink hair correct me if I’m wrong because different sites keep popping up whenever I try to watch the anime
@heroicspiritemiya6458
@heroicspiritemiya6458 6 жыл бұрын
His hair isnt pink its red
@ryanroman8986
@ryanroman8986 6 жыл бұрын
I have literally voted for cadter for every poll
@derekmoya-lupercio2491
@derekmoya-lupercio2491 6 жыл бұрын
Please do Shakespeare he's my favorite😀😀😀😀
@amberreliccollector6309
@amberreliccollector6309 6 жыл бұрын
Dos anyone know what the first and third magics are. I know the second is Control of other dimensions. But I can’t find an explanation on the concept of the three magics.
@dantecrailman8861
@dantecrailman8861 5 жыл бұрын
The first magic is basically creation out of nowhere. The third magic is perfect reincarnation.
@Chibinaroath
@Chibinaroath 6 жыл бұрын
So Shirou kotonine is different Person Shirou Emiya or He is Emiya in different world ?
@Shinryu949
@Shinryu949 6 жыл бұрын
Chibinaroath he is not emiya and in this timeline shiro never had a chance of being a master since kiritsugu did not have a chance to become a master etc etc
@nickvictoryfire4896
@nickvictoryfire4896 6 жыл бұрын
This was verry intresting for him
@katromore1421
@katromore1421 6 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow doesn't usually mean almost a weak....
@AniNews
@AniNews 6 жыл бұрын
+Death Itself Forgive me pls!!
@spirz4557
@spirz4557 6 жыл бұрын
Not if you are trapped into a time loop ^^
@keauntebishop8
@keauntebishop8 6 жыл бұрын
Do one on the avenger class
@aguilaestre2542
@aguilaestre2542 3 жыл бұрын
Normal Shirou: A dumb faker with plot armor. Shirou Kotomine: philosopher, Strategy god, great fighter, cool drip, Dope as F.
@bellamydoucette9530
@bellamydoucette9530 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, dont disrespect Emiya like that. He's all the things you said Kotomine is, and much more if you read the Visual Novel
@aguilaestre2542
@aguilaestre2542 2 жыл бұрын
@@bellamydoucette9530 hmmm, i haven't read it yet, but is he really? Because in the Anime Shirou is really dumb and the only reason he doesn't get killed in the first episode is literally plot armor.
@solairofastora690
@solairofastora690 3 жыл бұрын
Wait in what Fate Anime does the 3rd grail war play?
@maxhomies_playin7749
@maxhomies_playin7749 6 жыл бұрын
There's one thing he didn't planned,SIEG'S PLOT ARMOR
@ulisesotero9240
@ulisesotero9240 5 жыл бұрын
Max & homies_playin and berserker blessings on sig which is revealed till the last fight with shiro lol
@TheTDK80
@TheTDK80 6 жыл бұрын
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