EVO 2013 SSBM Top 8 WF - Wobbles (Ice Climbers) vs Hungrybox (Jigglypuff)

[@irrationalxlpsr]

That popoff from Wobbles at 13:10 - man oh man, he earned that game for sure, so much adrenaline just exploding haha

[@lili-di8tz]

Wobbles time traveled to this tournament from the year 20XX.

[@WillToWinvlog]

If you don't think Wobbles earned this one, 12:06 3-5 would have been nice and all, though.

[@tomatoesandradiowire482]

It's so weird to watch Wobbles play, I see him all the time in the commentating booth giving his usual hilarious anecdotes. However, it's surreal actually seeing him play on this level.

[@AZaxe]

Wobbles, I love you

[@sodalitemk]

Axe, I love you

[@enkay2293]

Zain, I love you

[@Cruxisism]

Wow. Can't believe such a big tournament like this only has a best of 3 Winners Finals. Even the competitors didn't know...

[@zzzz-st5wd]

16:34 This is why Wobbles is my favourite player.

[@adamwallace7638]

Because he can win games by cheesing and then Cheesing again? Abusing mechanics in a game that aren’t patched because Nintendo doesn’t care about competitive

[@ballertheking1038]

@@adamwallace7638 wobbles barely wobbled at this tourney lol. He legit outplayed hbox, mang0 and ppmd to take 2nd. Wobbles does not “cheese opponents”.

[@guitaromania1345]

lmao they zoomed in on his look of disappointment

[@kirjian]

"that powerful attack" "getting the sleep" I b like ResidentSleeper

[@elijah4973]

*rest

[@fawfulmark2]

"Our first 3/5 set...." Um yeah, about that...

[@robertJardin]

13:00 Watch Wobbles.

[@BNEBoy47]

Is there any brawl scene, or does most of competitive smash lie in melee?

[@BlinJe]

I can see why people don't like the playstyles of these two. Fuck that, this is awesome play.

[@dbz4life1777]

i don't really think anyone respects smash as a fighting game except smashers, they always underestimate us

[@Morogris]

Awkward stare between Wobbles and HB at 13:14.

[@TheAeroMechanic]

"Low jump!" -James Chen 2013

[@shime-saba]

The players both played it thinking it was best of 5, too. You can see Hbox glaring at the end thinking that he had another two games left.

[@ClementonTyrer]

Hungrybox's face at the end... :(

[@darthmarionator]

Sadbox :(

[@ClementonTyrer]

totally :(

[@barniechong1183]

so satisfying

[@brenton8334]

So satisfying

[@jtrtx]

@UCQ3D4JyCnXb4SLNPMBbIHlw what's "satisfying" is that hbox is now the best player in the world and you hate him for no reason. he's grown and changed as a person, but the melee community is too petty to let anything go. enjoy his reign, pussy

[@smashvideos7693]

I love wobbles and hungry box. My mains are ice climbers and puff just because of these guys when I first saw them years ago.

[@GCLU]

11:40 Amazing use of the nanapuss

[@AlbertChang17]

This is what I wanted from EVO.

[@Cancer98765]

I never noticed how close Wobbles shield was to breaking at the very end of the last game.

[@quesote20]

Popo jumped and wavelanded to the left on the platform and Jigs Baired hitting him with the left part of the hitbox so it sent popo flying to the left. ICs wavedash is really fast so maybe you didn't noticed they were already on Jigs left side.

[@MangoFishSocks]

Fight of the beards. Both players are so good.

[@theBraxil]

You seem too know alot about the ssbm scene, what's a good youtube channel that does tutorials and casts?

[@TheChefeChapado]

Damn! watching Puff is so damn intense, that thing dies at absurdly low percentages

[@str8wu819]

The life of a puff is a struggle

[@brainboy109]

But can kill any character at very low percents as well! That evil "Wall of Pain" can KO an opponent at virtually any percent, even as low as 10%.

[@TheChefeChapado]

***** yup, Puff is all like live fast die young lol

[@DapuffStuff]

That's the Glass Canon for you

[@fawfulmark2]

yep, the change was most likely because the GFs of KOF13 went overtime,making melee start an hour late.

[@Gastogh]

Every day he's WOB-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-LIN'

[@Krisspear]

15:45 what did Wobbles do to get rested here?

[@str8wu819]

Hungrybox did a fast falling Nair then Wobbles tried to react and punish it but once he let go of his shield he got rested trying to punish the Nair. Sort of like a Rest of hope because it's not guaranteed a rest since they can just shield it. Puffs do it since nana is stupid so there's a chance she can get rested but not popo

[@MrJimmyJammers]

Do u remember when the crowd was chanting my name, and I ripped my blouse

[@shime-saba]

MrWizard said on smashboards as recently as last month that WF/LF were also 3/5. I think this was a last minute rule change made to give time to that awful Killer Instinct presentation.

[@YUSoEpic]

How did Wobbles start the desynch at 3:47? O.o

[@TheYellowWombat]

***** Landing desynch, I think. Popo get stuck in the landing animation, leading to the desynch.

[@jaydahya629]

***** It's a PIVOT desync. has nothing 2 do with landing. he simply did a pivot and then an fsmash

[@TreeBeardSomeCallMe]

That fucking phantom air in the first match... I would be pulling my hair out.

[@TargetHippo]

While I don't think it should be banned, the best argument against it would probably be that it equalizes skill. The fact that every mistake will cost you an entire stock makes it possible to win matches with luck.

[@ObeyTheBanjo]

Sadbox at the end

[@MastaFrank01]

4:53 what was that? That was sick.

[@gungho438]

I wish Wobbles would chuck his controller again :P

[@meloveulongtime]

5:53, does anyone know what wobbles said to hbox? I wonder what the nature of it was..

[@MrJimmyJammers]

Thoughts on wobbling?

[@boricausufire]

That dislike was from sadbox

[@paralasalud]

synchronized sit-down, lean back, and lean forward

[@dontmess17]

that phantom... "perfectly spaced rest there"

[@EziDuzit463]

LOL wobbles drops his controller like he thinks he won but then quickly realizes Hbox still ain't dead.

[@Sirgloomy2]

4:47

[@wuthefwasthat]

15:35 was that a phantom upsmash?

[@stabbedbyahippie]

second game was performance of the century, jesus christ

[@JeyfarHandleSniped]

That Hungrybox face at the end made me sad. They should've made the BO3 clear, that's the look of utter disappointment in the end.

[@captainfalconmain6576]

I will never understand why this was not best of 5

[@TeeAyEye]

watching this gives me the chills every time

[@duffman18]

Maybe turn your central heating on then, or cook a nice hot soup.

[@Sedrickson1018]

i will admit i sorta suck, but i did just get into it

[@Schligger1808]

He said: You cant mash out of the wobble

[@GsusChrist12]

can someone please explain what happens at 4:45?

[@KarmaJolt]

DO NOT LET HIM LEAD YOU ON. You need to be a strong, independent woman.

[@OMGItsAllen]

They were booing Wobbles? When?

[@Sedrickson1018]

holy shit i went into vs mode and with jiggly puff i can take on people with an 8 difficulty! with others i could only do 6, jiggly is my favourite character now

[@dabjones420]

the ending was too good lmao

[@zorakbane]

I hope hungry box heard me yelling "KILL GRANDMA"

[@ErickOberholtzer]

The only people in the FGC that don't think Smash is a fighting game are the stream monsters and trolls. Everybody else does.

[@moses1837]

I think is perfectly fine since you don't want to get grabbed by the ice climbers anyway. They just need to play better.

[@pacack824]

That was pretty amazing.

[@Lemmy8935]

Why was it best of 3

[@highlyeducational4162]

Evo's Time constraints

[@narutouzumakijoshua]

+Dewm - cuz evo's shitty.

[@rwsh6536]

Pretty much EVO is crazy stupid about that. It shouldn't be held in such a high regard as a tournament. I understand the time constraint problem but the whole top 8 should be best 3 of 5 as that wouldn't add a horrendous amount of time and top 8 is where the seeds usually end up meeting so they should have the most neutral format to fight against each other. In my opinion the fact that even this year only had 3 out of 5 for top 3 means that, until things change, EVO should not be considered the most important tournament to win. 2 out of 3 is bullshit for a number of reasons (stage bans, the strength of momentum from winning first game etc...) and are terrible at allowing players to reach placings that reflect their skill level on a consistent basis. Characters like Peach or Puff will basically never be able to play dreamland, M2K will never get to play FD etc.. EVO is important for the exposure and I'll watch every year. But any set win in a 2/3 wont impact my opinion of who is better than who whatsoever and winning a tournament mostly composed of 2/3 is a shallow win.

[@Earthbound017]

"YOU'RE DEAD" epic

[@GndamPrime]

11:35 and 16:27 were such sick setups omg

[@TheZephyrust]

Hey Wobbles, Admiral says hey :)

[@zhongwennihongo]

there is quite a large brawl scene. both games are equally popular, but melee has more respect than brawl as a fighting game, i guess.

[@Whitemikeyay]

LOL Wobbles actually put his controller down after the sidesmash on the last stack of game 2 then picked it up again when hbox lived

[@zackolot]

If there's on thing that Melee has in common with Brawl is how similar Puff vs Icies is to MK vs Icies. Really slow matches.

[@rwsh6536]

thats literally how pretty much any character has to fight puff... Hbox is amazing so you can't just ignore the matchup. Every character has strengths and weaknesses and Puff's signature style is that she can play defense and neutral so well and safe. The nature of Puff is defensive glass cannon. She dies at extremely early percents from kill moves, but those kill moves are really hard to hit on her. One bad move or over extension from you and she has a move that kills earlier than any other viable move in the game (rest), so you basically die for messing up just a little. Puff kinda has that effect of firing back your attack at you with twice the power (example: you go for a read grab as marth, she crouches under it and instantly rests. you just died for attempting a grab at 10%). You do something you shouldn't have and she just takes you to town weather its with a pile of damage from her bairs or, if you really messed up, a rest. TLDR; due to puff's aerial movement, ease of escaping combos, offstage abilities and extremely strong punishes. The only way to beat a puff player who's really good is to take the defensive and slowly build up damage then kill her by making her mess up while still being safe about it. Puff is and has always been about patience; regardless of character.

[@jtrtx]

it's ics

[@JunkyardMech]

Despite this being the single closest match in Top 8, it will forever be illegitimized by the fact that they had no idea it was a Bo3, and therefore were not even thinking about stage selection. Hungrybox might even have been thinking that he could afford to lose that third round. Shame on Evo's management for not telling the competitors what the hell they were supposed to be doing, ON THE MAIN STAGE IN WINNERS FINALS.

[@wiitubeaccount]

11:37 that grab set up

[@alexbringas9489]

The phantom rest at 9:29 made me lose all of my shit.

[@WomboCombee]

A.) B-Moves are hardly ever used in competitive, and even so, Jiggly's B-down>all Kirby's B-moves combined, plus pound is pretty good B.) Jigglypuff has much better manuverbility in the air, along with a broken hit box on her back air. She also has much stronger smash attacks and better recovery. C.) Kirby is literally dead last in the tier list, while Jiggs is 5th. I know you're only supposed to tale the tier list with a grain of salt, but there's a reason they are 21 places a part.

[@AlbertChang17]

Not at all, it was much more the fault of the players for not checking. Not every tournament is the exact same, and just like how all players knew the sets at KoC were 3/5 in bracket, they should have known that these were all 2/5 till GF.

[@Cancer98765]

10:35 ....Where legends are made.

[@Kjernekar]

changin the tourny ruleset at the last moment without announcing it huh? Kinda scummy.

[@choknater]

best match of the tournament

[@JunkyardMech]

The comment you are replying to has less to do with Hungrybox than with serious competition in general.

[@Mimashrimp]

I got so hyped I died. Unable to leave this mortal coil I came back to haunt the memories of this match's unbelievable hype once again.

[@WomboCombee]

It's rest, not sing, and is the single deadliest move in the game. Also sing keeps your opponent asleep longer when their damage is higher.

[@Panning72]

Press 1

[@Cruxisism]

That's horrible. Think of how the outcomes could've changed if it was a best of 5 set, as it was supposed to be. The fact that the competitors didn't even know makes it worse.

[@ferrishthefish]

5:53 LMAO @ player cam

[@dandyanthony]

some of the comments absolute cancer to look back on. best/favorite part imo is when hbox shows wobbles he's pressing start Good Guy Hbox

[@pseudomac]

19:38 omigod my heart

[@PourLeCorps]

Basically gave mango grand final win

[@Mobius1_Supra_YT]

You Tried Hbox You're Still good.

[@Prodigial]

Well at least he has a fan. The only time I ever heard a crowd chant for Hbox was when he played Leffen who is just a cocky ass and nobody likes. Even Armada, who rarely gets a chant despite being one of the best players due to foreign descent gets chants more than Hbox, an American. Hbox plays to win. He uses cheap tactics to do it but the result is what matters. The consequence is that not many people like him.

[@bluesilkdesigns]

Dat ending lol D:

[@RagingPoo]

6:33 wtf

[@flysisblue4450]

NO FUN ZONE

[@DarkGeno21]

HUNGRY TEARS

[@SARCOM3R3]

Two spam players going head to head. Wobbles hopeless w/o the wobble, and HB annoying with his back-airs and sleep. I'm glad HB lost

[@SARCOM3R3]

You guessed wrong. But don't make this about me. Let me know everything these two players are doing correctly- because there are a few

[@meanbeanmachine]

PHANTOM REST! WTF!?

[@JunkyardMech]

I'm still waiting for a substantial argument for its removal from competitive play. Easily the dumbest ban in the history of the franchise, especially considering it's almost impossible to enforce.

[@JDLupus]

Wow, this game... damn

[@TheOSTLobbyYT]

Disappointmentbox > Hungrybox

[@Prodigial]

LOl! Listen bud, if Hbox is allowed to spam back air as his only move, and actually have it work as a viable strategy, anything goes against him. Not to mention rest is 10x easier to combo into than IC chain grab, especially against the spacies (who happen to make up like 75% of the community) and capt. falcon. Finally someone used a cheap tactic against him. There's a reason no one likes Hbox.

[@TreeBeardSomeCallMe]

*Phantom F-smash

[@TKnightcrawler]

Sad ending. :(

[@Feerioz]

16:34 god damn

[@AriasValor3]

Wobbles the Phoenix