THE TRUTH! My Real Thoughts about the Mustang Dark Horse

[@HammerRocks]

Your seat problem is easily solved Tim. Since its got manual adjust seats, you can quickly & simply slide the seat back when getting in or out, then slide it forward when ready to drive. I do it each time I get in or out of my MX-5. Quickly fixed that issue.

[@fit_pharmd4830]

Knowing what I know now and if given the chance to travel back in time to my graduating year of high school (2001) when we’re supposed to pick our career paths, it’s no Elon Musk, Bezos or Zuckerberg for me. I’d pick your line of work every time. You’re living the epitome of what it means to be a petrol head and that’s where my passion lies above all else. Cars. And you are humble enough to know how special a job it is to do what you do while making a fine living along with it. A serious congratulations for all your hard work! Your fans appreciate it so so much!

[@kent5006]

Dark Horse vs Urus (w/ 4 passengers) head-to-head next time!

[@Shmee150]

If you don't smoke the tyres again!

[@TYG06]

do it

[@paulabes4220]

Hey Shmee I live In Vancouver Canada. We get a lot of rain this time of year. Picked my Dark Horse on Jan 12. Two days later took off the Trefao RS put on some Pilot sport at4 to drive in the rainy days. I will then put them back on in summer. Also, I'm 6'2" 260 lbs I have the Recaros when I get in I just do what girls do with miniskirts. I sit in it then bring my legs over the sill and into the car. As for the dash just get a dash pad like you would do if you lived in Florida or anywhere it's sunny most of the year. But I have to say I love my Shadow black Dark Horse premium with the handling package and the Tremec and I bloody love it.

[@jattposti8015]

do we need handling pack if we dont track the car? I was thinking of saving money on tires and keeping the skinny ones to do burnouts and etc as their cheaper

[@paulabes4220]

@@jattposti8015 If you want to do burnouts buy a hellcat or demon. You buy a Dark Horse for cutting curves on back roads that tell you your alive.

[@MJFitman]

I gotta say, I love the English words, phrases, etc. Casual conversation while tossing that car around pretty well for a first track day. Awesome!

[@elijahmendez-SSGEli]

@Shmee150 after watching the Rolex 24 hours of Daytona and seeing the Mustang GTD GT3's on the grid has got me even more excited for GTD road car, would love to see one become a future Shmeemobile!

[@scottandrews4822]

The Dodge Challenger lineup is available with a NA V8 and a 6 speed manual also. I have a 2023 Dodge Challenger 392 T/A 6 speed manual with the R/T, Scat Pack, Widebody, and T/A packages on it. It's awesome. The manual on the Scat Pack gives you 3 more HP and 10 more ft-lbs of torque, for a total of 488 HP and 485 lb-ft of torque. Autos have 485 HP/475 TQ. The manual also has a 3.90 rear gear vs the 3.27 in the auto. I installed a Hurst Pistol Grip shifter too, which made a huge difference in the shifting quality. I love the car!

[@DWH300]

It's the last year for the cars you're talking about. That's why Stellantis skipped the Chicago auto show because they have only one new product released the past decade. The Alfa Romero Tonale, I mean Dodge Hornet. Nothing new to show. Mark Ups on the final editions are crazy with DC area dealers selling Demon 170s for $230,000 to over $300,000. If the only feature owning a Hemi Dodge or even a Hemi Chrysler is driving a dated interior car in a straight lines. That's what it's made for. That's why you don't see Challenger in the IMSA GTD Pro series. I'm finding the selections are currently good at your local Dodge dealers. I own a 2018 chrysler 300C Hemi purchased new in 2018. The only areas Stellantis is doing well at is destroying both the Dodge and Chrysler brands while focusing on Europe. From reviews and test drives. The Mustang lineup like the Dark Horse and GT with even the Refreshed 2025 Explorer ST are fresh, tech filled and not one trick ponies 😮😮handling both straight lines and road course performance. Stellantis is destroying both the Dodge and Chrysler brands. I will never purchase another Stellantis brand vehicle especially after test driving a Dark Horse with a handling package

[@KJL-123]

I move the seat back and forth every time I get in and out of my Shelby with Recaros. It saves a little wear on the bolstering but the main reason for moving the seat it to easily get in and out of the car.

[@Shmee150]

It's probably the right way to do it, I'm just being lazy because I never needed to in the GT500

[@LarryHatch]

Whew! That's a relief. Ten years ago any European would be saying bad things about the quality of an American interior and panel gaps - and rightly so. Now we have people saying an Escalade and C8 are even better than some of their Euro rivals. Thanks for being fair and wonderfully objective.

[@DiscoR53]

About the chipped window if the size of chip is less than the size of an American quarter then you can have the windshield repaired. But you have to do it as soon as possible as time goes on a crack gets bigger, and as the temperature goes up.

[@MichaelSchneiderTexas]

Glad you finally started tinting your cars, its terrible to road trip long distances here without it. Going darker in the rear will help ease the AC use also in the summer.

[@dodgehemi5045]

26:00 Alcantara wrap behind gauge pod melting 😊no refraction 😊

[@fury5502]

When getting in and out of the car push back the seat as it is manual easy to do and quick and gives you plenty of room. I have the same sort of seats on me BOSS 302. It is then back to when you get in the car and then slide it forward easy and makes life easier.

[@macdaddy1658]

I have followed scheme for years and have many hours of enjoyment, I'm 56 and worked in the motor trade most of my life. I know nothing, the very little I do know is that scheme is aulsome , I understand but I struggle with the dark horse 🙁

[@UZREHJ]

dude his name is literally everywhere and you butchered it twice

[@resnonverba137]

Aulsome?

[@professorking5152]

picking up mine Monday, Shmee!! EXACTLY the same specs as yours!! color, package, seats and MAnual!! I CANNOT WAIT!!!!! this video is awesome!!

[@deblackheart2945]

The getting in and out of the Dark Horse is not so personal. I have the very same issue with mine. Aswell as the secondary screen getting confused

[@Shmee150]

Glad I'm not alone!

[@readrepairs]

Looks like a great facility.

[@salpirwani]

Everytime Tim drops a Mustang Dark House Video, Dealer Markup goes up by $10k 😂

[@DWH300]

I'm not sure where you've Shopped, but I can connect you with Ford dealers in the DC area who aren't marking up their Dark Horse inventory.

[@machdaddy6451]

@@DWH300 I'm pretty sure it's joke

[@bretthansen8166]

I absolutely love the Mustangs, but your Gt500 is still my favorite. (The new ford GT is one of my dream cars) To me a Camaro 1Le and especially a ZL1 1LE is a far easier car to drive at the limit hands down and more worth the $ spent to me personally. I truly appreciate your ford collection Tim so I understand why you buy them, I’m really hoping you add a Yellow with black stripes 05 or so Ford GT, and possibly an older fastback vintage model, it would really complete your collection. I’d keep the Gt500 and get rid of the Dark Horse in the future. Always appreciate your content Schmee, all the best in 2024!

[@Lord.Crawford]

I for one would love you to get a Dark Horse in the UK and see you boost it with a blower as due to homologation laws we only get 453bhp in the dark horse.

[@NerdyDrifter85]

Fun video! My Mach 1 has the Premium heated and cooled leather seats with automatic memory control making getting in and out so effortless.

[@sidrens1047]

As a big fan since the beginning, I cannot wait for a Shmuseum video… which I think should be the main focus now. I am sorry but I really don’t enjoy the US tours so much - it feels like Groundhog Day, especially the garage tours (constructive feedback not being negative).

[@williamrogercummings277]

Mustangs are great value for the money and they have the Dark Horse variant now which is really cool. We enjoy your vids, tim. Thank you.

[@tombranson9341]

This video was taken not too far from where I lived. I wish this was 5 years ago since I would have loved to have you visit and see my Saleen Mustang collection.

[@jrocket50]

Shmee you have to tilt the steering wheel up every time you finish your drive it helps a bit.

[@Shmee150]

That's an effort nobody would stick with

[@edgarcia570]

I put my seat back and down my stering wheel up when I’m not in a rush get out hella easy

[@scottguenther-lee2214]

Just as an FYI, you can use non-reflective tint on your front windshield, provided it's above the manufacturer’s AS-1 line. I could not live in AZ during the summer without all the windows being tinted. 😎

[@DWH300]

Regarding your infotainment system. Visit a Ford dealership or even contact Ford Customer care to discuss your issues. Like my other brands issues. An upgrade repaired my issues at my dealership. Regarding adding more horsepower. Whipple has a supercharger available that will push your horsepower to 750 horsepower at the rear wheels. Contact Ken at Palm Beach Dyno (Florida). Tell him your story. He's one of the best tuning and creating horsepower in Ford Mustangs. I also believe Hennessy has an HP850 Dark Horse package.

[@incompleteReflections]

Cant wait to see the GTD in the collection

[@gavinivers8941]

When you park the car, turn the steering wheel slightly right hand down meaning the flat will be over to the left, making it easier to get in and out. You can have the windscreen repaired, that what I do, but not in the UK, or USA.

[@AutomotiveAvocation]

I really like the 3 camera angle setup you’re doing for the on track portions! Definitely better than just one small Picture in Picture 👍👍

[@stevebury6560]

I think as you own this car that more power is a great thing. You could take it to shelby in Vegas and it modified. Just a suggestion Your videos are excellent

[@Shmee150]

Shelby would be a great stop!

[@tayl0rd553]

23:55 I have the same issue getting in and out of my GT350R. I literally can't get in the car with the seat at my driving position. The remedy is to always slide the seat back and/or put the steering wheel in its highest position when you get out of the car. That way you don't have to worry about unnecessary and premature wear on the seat and steering wheel.

[@johnwtx]

22 GT Premium owner here--- didn't realize the auto adjusting driver seat would be such a sales point vs manual dark horse seats.

[@rynosraceroom66]

I can't wait for @Iracing gets us the new GT3 Dark Horse on the sim . Thx for the update .

[@andyfernandez1152]

hi shmee, I own a 2024 mustang gt and Ive had it for three months now, I do not have any of the issues you are having with your center screen, not a single crash yet, I'm guessing you can take it to the dealer and have that fixed.

[@GuilNascimento]

Great to see you enjoying the car on the track! The "86mi to E" with half a tank of fuel is quite funny. I remember a Mach 1 showing '75mi to E' with 3/4 of a tank of fuel after a long track session. Thirsty beasts but so fun!

[@DWH300]

Here's some fuel usage info for the Dodge Charger Hellcat Redeye. *According to J.D Power, the Charger SRT Hellcat Redeye can drain its entire gas tank in just 11 minutes. That's thanks to dual-stage fuel pumps that help its 6.2-liter Hemi V8 gulp down dinosaur juice at a rate of 1.43 gallons (5.4 liters) per minute*.

[@richardspore1996]

Shmee your driving skills have improved so much just in the last year or so 🤟

[@kevinDG7]

Think this is the mustang you want, manual, rwd ,v8 not to much hp.just perfect to cruise and have fun. Love see one in buillit green

[@marcog6470]

The gt500 cftp is still on another level, it’ll be nice to see you in a GTD as well

[@paulkrapp]

The optional Recaros in my Fiesta ST have the same tall side supports. Yes, It's a tight fit between the seat and steering wheel as well.

[@Whipsnap180]

Tim, love the mustang content. Curious to hear your thoughts on Dark Horse vs GT350. Both MT but the gt350 engine is something special. Maybe I’m biased, but I think you’d really enjoy the 350.

[@Shmee150]

I don't necessarily think you're wrong. I had this exact discussion the evening of this track day with a GT350 owner.

[@j.scottcaudill7543]

Tim, I tagged you a few days ago in a TikTok video of the brand new 2025 Mustang GTD and was wondering what your thoughts were on that car. It looks absolutely bonkers! Introductory pricing is right around *$300K*

[@puttydabear]

lol cooldown lap it looked like miss daisy was driving such a beast of a car

[@busterthewolf7864]

It's like listening to a Nascar roaring down the circuit, what a monster!!

[@DWH300]

If you're into IMSA racing. Talk to Ford performance and Multimatic regarding the 2 seat Dark Horse R race car for the special Ford racing series. You also might want to ask Ford performance about the new Dark Horse Coyote Gen 4 Coyote stronger internals in the Dark Horse S and the refined suspension including the recalibrated Magna Ride. .

[@StreetRiver]

Looks like the seat is sitting rather high. Maybe lowering the seat would increase the gap between the seat and the steering wheel? 🤔

[@Shmee150]

It's about 1 notch up from bottom position, but again same as my GT500 and about right for my size

[@timleuliette899]

Glad I'm not the only one that complains about the Recaro seats and how hard they are to get in and out of. LOL!

[@ballislifematt]

You should be able to get that wind screen fixed without a replacement as long as you don’t wait too long and the crack doesn’t get bigger.

[@FlyWithTyy]

That view into the sky😍 7:10

[@nolano6072]

Shmee you should take the dark horse to the Kentucky Derby and the Indy 500 in May.

[@bespincustompropsbombarta8300]

You forgot the mk5 Supra from the list of rear drives cars available with a manual gearbox 😉

[@beaugator]

Your "OCD" to have the wheel centered might be holding you back from turning the wheel slightly to the right to get the flat spot where it will help entry/exit. Also, Safelite auto glass can repair that chip. It might not be perfect but, it would do for a short stint.

[@DStork1977]

I work at a Ford Dealership in the SW England and have a Oxford DH Tremec on order as a demo, happy to supply if you can’t get one

[@lloydbellis7360]

Shmee having a track day. Fun as always 😎😎😎👍👍👍

[@cardude1584]

30:47 I think that Lexus and the Dark Horse would be a good race around the track

[@bobuncle8704]

I don’t normally like a white car, but there’s a good balance of black and white on your car. Love the Dark Horse.

[@MGAFFY]

You can do that UV protection film on your windshield and get the least tinted tint percentage on it

[@javongogh4457]

Hay Tim, finally visiting your home country early next month. I plan on bringing some sunshine from Florida. Maybe I’ll even see a Shmee-mobile out and about in London 😊

[@brandondarnes3699]

Why not do a nearly clear tint on the windshield? Like with your side windows, its basically undetectable. Will make a huge difference and won't heat up the dash and screen as much.

[@TJ90532]

I am the same way getting into the Darkhorse. I like the standard sests, not the recardos

[@LarryHatch]

Some cars pull back the drivers seat and raise the wheel when you enter. Then you press a button to return everything to your preference. Probably not happening for $70K though.

[@erictenbensel6590]

You can do that with the standard Mustang seats, but not with the Recaros.

[@Dangerous_Drivers_of_CA]

Ford knew not to use the MT-82 for the Dark Horse. I wonder why they still put it in the GT?

[@kenlevie1877]

Tim thank you for this. I live in north Phoenix and have considered joining this club

[@Shmee150]

It's an epic environment, definitely take a look into it!

[@josephrainey5535]

I'm a member at Apex and cannot recommend it highly enough. I'm there nearly every weekend now turning laps with my siblings and father. Fantastic staff, very friendly members, and, as Shmee said, an epic environment. You won't regret joining.

[@MrAlex-]

Where I really wanna see this car go is - Oulton Park- a real proper track

[@JPCraig-pc7bx]

I hate to say it, you should get the oil changed every 5k if not sooner. Regardless what the car says. Still love the car, I'm jealous of this one and your gt500. Huge Mustang guy.

[@2bunphettered788]

Good driving Shmee! Cool ride! 🤍👍

[@user-hr5di5fg8b]

Well the dark hourse is something people can achieve easier than most of the cars you run with during your us visits.

[@brianclarke4159]

I think it's a proper Aston, it would look stunning in red,

[@SoundBoy808]

Cool. Im loving the look of your Dark Horse and great to see it on track. If you are in Florida / Georgia a lot you should pass by Steeda....

[@Archangel3083]

Just slide the seat back before you get in and slide it forward. I get what you’re saying though, I wish ford had the auto seat settings in the mustang

[@j.scottcaudill7543]

Your 1st complaint is easily rectified by simply moving the seat back and steering wheel up before exiting the car then move them back into your preferred position once you get back in 🤷

[@tonybrown6326]

I love track days and autobaun days on the shmee channel

[@Michael-CS]

Doesn't the Dark Horse have an "EASY ENTRY" mode in the apps? I believe in my 2021 GT I have the ability for the seat to pull all the way back when I turn off the car.

[@jeffreyoldham55]

Tim, a good glass shop should be able to fill that crack in the windscreen.

[@gerbilking3722]

Hey schmee whatever happened to your Tvr griffith, would love an update

[@Shmee150]

There have been a few updates on it, so nothing new to give you since the one 3 weeks ago

[@TheSuhas96]

Would love to actually see you own an ecoboost manual model and upgrade it like the focus rs red edition. With lighter weight upfront and a different engine tuning. Might be a good comparison with your dark horse. That v8 is amazing and i would definitely love to own one someday

[@erictenbensel6590]

The is no such thing as a manual EcoBoost anymore.

[@TheSuhas96]

my bad. i thought there was @@erictenbensel6590

[@balljar7546]

Love that car even though I'm more of a Chevy Camaro guy. Too bad on that drivers seat there's not an option for it to "open up" the drivers cockpit. Like move the seat back and the steering wheel up. My Lexus does this, and at times I do find that annoying, but that's better than causing damage everytime one gets in and out of the vehicle.

[@smithcd]

Maybe taking the plastic cover off the screens will help? They already look like they’re peeling off, probably from the heat.

[@CarCraze5858]

Hey Shmee im Stian 😂 how are you?! Love the videos!!

[@Shmee150]

Hi Stian!

[@JohnSimpson-r5d]

I rode the Dark Horse at 2024 Barrett-Jackson last week. This driver didn’t “get on it” as much as the B-J driver did.

[@JoshProckter]

I think the mustang dark horse is my new favourite mustang

[@ajyoung4530]

24:36 also….. that’s an old school thing…. You put the wheel up when exiting… and then you put it back down after entering.

[@Shmee150]

You can also slide the seat back, but the point here is that it's not an issue in the GT500

[@nukeboynn9970]

So i have a 2021 mustang mach 1 would you recommend to upgrade to this?

[@Shmee150]

It's incredibly similar to drive, the main thing is that you'd be getting updated infotainment and a newer car

[@nukeboynn9970]

@@Shmee150 agh ok, so in your personal opinion would you switch or maybe look for a Clive Suttton mustang instead? Cheers

[@rustler08]

If you want something to get instead of the Mach 1, get a GT350, GT500, or that Clive Sutton. Otherwise, you're really just doing a lateral move for a revised infotainment system.

[@charlie1832]

Did you see made it into Rich Rebuilds video from yesterday ?

[@nicholassmith7048]

I'd say the infotainment screen crashing is a significant issue, especially since so much is tied into the sceen including all the climate controls. However, unfortunately that happens in many cars with such systems so I wouldn't say it's a Mustang issue per se.

[@CoyoteAUS]

I think if this could be 600bhp it would be an absolute weapon.

[@LetMiDrive]

How about for the windshield to Avoid Rock Cracks to the Original Glass We install a Glass Car Front Windshield Screen Protector? MADE Of For The Dark Horse An All Cars An Trucks ?

[@jackcobbiii1797]

I rode in the back yesterday and jeez not made for 6’ lol

[@PK-gs3xo]

Slide the seat back when you get in and out. Very simple concept.

[@debeer26]

Show us how you drive with passengers in the back. You said you can with restricted knee space

[@Ham1001dy]

Would you trade the Dark Horse for the C8 Z06?

[@opera93]

Thanks, interesting… Oddly, I struggle with “ Tires” & Maintenance spectrum, also : on my two Vehicles; actually, Winter Studded , Suspensions ( just had one rebuilt , ++, NAPA / Spectrum)…… Anyways, I have tilt/Telescope Steering Wheels that I flip UP with left H@nd, & move Seat back right H@nd at most egress Vehicles(* that Luxury Seat Settjngs OPTIONS COULD be nice! )… even with my low price Budget Vehicles …Finally, I opted to sp3nd all monies on tires,maintenance,upkeeps,Services, & skip **: Horsepower,flashy decorations ,Etc. , in HELENA Valley MONTANA .

[@jtwig9311]

Recaro seats are excellent....sorry to hear that

[@mitchrivara3180]

Shmee if you’re looking for a dealership in Arizona for your oil change and windshield I would love to take care of you at San Tan Ford in Gilbert! We’re just off the 202 loop 30 minutes from Scottsdale.

[@HxTurtle]

15 centigrade is more like 60F. it's actually not very complicated. surprisingly few people get it how to quickly convert. I'll put down a cheat sheet: while not strictly true, a delta of two Fahrenheit means one centigrade. everything above boiling temperature is basically just double C to get to F (160C equals precisely 320F, I believe.) negative forty is the same for both. often experienced outside temperature for many humans (especially when deciding how to dress) are between zero and twenty centigrade, which is freezing to room temperature; this roughly equates to thirty to seventy F; with fifty right in the middle (10C; and forty any sixty dividing this even further, so equating to roughly five and fifteen, respectively.) anything not covered, you just look for the nearest you know and scale centigrade by half of the delta in F, like I already said. you see 56F; I said, fifty F is like ten C; half of six is three, so it might be thirteen C. is this conversation precise? no, it's not; but when you dress accordingly to this conversation, you'll survive just fine; that's what it's all about; just to get a rough feel/sense. and hundred F is like body temperature, to get another big filler in at higher temperatures; again, just "like," not exactly. this should help people to get a quick first estimate in, which shouldn't be off by too far. -- so, what is negative thirty F in C? ahh, negative forty is the same, the change in C is only half, so it should be negative 35, right? yes, exactly, that's how a quick (and dirty, lol) approximation works. 👍

[@hughfh]

Sheesh, I prefer my uncle's casual conversion method: subtract 30 then halve (F to C) or vice versa. Works well enough for most typical weather-based temps.

[@HxTurtle]

@@hughfh yeah, that works too! (I haven't figured this yet. I'm from Europe and lived in Canada, married with an American; so, I needed to figure something which kinda works; and that's also the exact reason why I'm better with very low temperatures, lol.)

[@zemaniak22]

Does it not have Ford’s annoying chime, or did you remove it?

[@abelmeloruiz]

you can tint the front window with one of the lightest tints and won't have any trouble, people here in Florida go crazy with tints and not get tickets.

[@rustler08]

That's absolutely false.

[@Shmee150]

I think it's one of those things where it won't be cause of trouble on its own, but as soon as you're being pulled for something else, it can become a problem at the time. Also depends a lot where exactly you are!

[@abelmeloruiz]

@@rustler08 probably you don’t notice but people do it , it’s just not too dark and barely noticeable

[@abelmeloruiz]

yes exactly, I don't use any on my cars here but I've definitely seen other people use windshield tints.@@Shmee150

[@Concern_Citizen]

​@@rustler08 - I'm not sure what the gentleman meant by "...go crazy with tints...", but most States have their Visible Light Transmission (VLT) percentage posted on their city website. Florida front window VLT is 28% and Texas Front Window VLT is 25%. The lower the percentage number, the darker the tint. Those percentage represents the amount of visible light that gets through the tinted window. If a person is traveling, often, through many states, the clear tint Shmee placed on his dark horse is the way to go, as some states is as light as 70%.

[@grandmaster720]

You have to do a corsa exhaust while it’s here.

[@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O]

Do you prefer the Dark Horse over a GT350? They have different engines but slot below the GT500 but above the GT.

[@jayjones3254]

def add a lil power!! Have LMR tune it for you:).