Exploring the New Mercedes-AMG SLC 43

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Shmee150

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@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
The SLC 43 from Mercedes-AMG introduces a new tier in the model line with character and touches from AMG. Do you like it?
@laggyhacker
@laggyhacker 7 жыл бұрын
cheeky 50fps shmee, cheeky
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
Most videos have been recently, we're doing our best to manage 50p where internet connections allow
@BENKYism
@BENKYism 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@naahhhbiitch6431
@naahhhbiitch6431 7 жыл бұрын
Shmee150 almost a million subscribers!!! Early congratulations to you Tim
@AlexAlex-re8ls
@AlexAlex-re8ls 7 жыл бұрын
Shmee150 its ugly in my opinion
@toddf93
@toddf93 7 жыл бұрын
basically Merc AMG 43's = Audi S and Merc AMG 63-65 = Audi RS. Am I correct?
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
That seems like a very fair comparison
@sufyan5884
@sufyan5884 7 жыл бұрын
toddf93 sounds right, just swap = with >
@86rodro
@86rodro 7 жыл бұрын
add M 240i M 550i etc = AMG 43 = Audi S and Full M2 M3 M4 etc = AMG 63-65 = Audi RS
@willywillywillywillywilly
@willywillywillywillywilly 7 жыл бұрын
And Cadillac's V-Sport and V, and Lexus's F-Sport and F.
@charliemolda297
@charliemolda297 7 жыл бұрын
Ye but you don't compare Cadillac and Lexus to the germans
@TheUltimategeneral
@TheUltimategeneral 7 жыл бұрын
Tim i think this car is really overlooked i think its great everyday car
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
It's an easy one to overlook, and it has been fairly generalised, but out driving there's actually quite a lot to it.
@Lenny41912
@Lenny41912 7 жыл бұрын
i think as soon as you overcome the "womens car" prejudice you realize the slc is quite a decent car
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
Nice summary
@kanervatie
@kanervatie 7 жыл бұрын
...for a woman.
@Kxji
@Kxji 7 жыл бұрын
Or just the SLK55 Black Series 😂
@noerivera
@noerivera 6 жыл бұрын
I have this car and I totally love it... I was debating to get between this one and a cayman but honestly I prefer this 3.0 twin turbo v6 than new cayman which is a 2.5 4 cylinder
@MarMPB
@MarMPB 3 жыл бұрын
Love the small roadster design! Being a 3.0 V6 Bi-turbo, with just a remap it would get a serious bump in power that the old (and lovely) 5.5 V8 would take lots of upgrades to keep up.
@DJAkayManchester
@DJAkayManchester 9 ай бұрын
I think the slightly older 2015 5.5 V8 would keep up with a new SLC43 it’s 367BHP but after a remap if you got to 400-410 BPH it s gonna be a close race the mighty 5.5 V8 with its 421 BHP is only 0.1 of a second faster 0-60 so not much in it. Except the sound of the V8 burbling away 😊worth the extra money just for that sound
@MarMPB
@MarMPB 9 ай бұрын
@@DJAkayManchester Oh! The V8 sound is something else! About the performance there’s a big upgrade with the modern 9 GTronic transmission vs the old and much slower 7 GTronic. I read something about the better weight distribution with the new and lighter engine, but I’m not sure about that.
@chele089
@chele089 7 жыл бұрын
I liked the last one, the SLK. It could be had with 5.5l N/A V8. In a car this small size, thats awesome!
@wolfiebadazz1367
@wolfiebadazz1367 4 жыл бұрын
Test drove the final edition one last week. That exhaust sounds amazing in sport+
@DJAkayManchester
@DJAkayManchester 9 ай бұрын
I ve got a 2015 350 SLK 3.5 V6 . This newer SLC43 totally outperforms my older 350 but the interior is practically the same except the gear shift is new. The newer modern slightly smaller capacity 3.0 V6 engine with its biturbo and new 9 speed gearbox makes this a really fast fun quality convertible. I would swap mine for it all day
@HighwayDrive717
@HighwayDrive717 7 жыл бұрын
AMG GTR is my primary future target. I will get it one day.
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
Best of luck to you, work hard and you never know
@HighwayDrive717
@HighwayDrive717 7 жыл бұрын
Shmee150 Thanks man! It's one of the greatest Mercedes that I've ever seen!! it sounds amazing, looks great and it will always be classic to me!!!
@willywillywillywillywilly
@willywillywillywillywilly 7 жыл бұрын
That's right. Work hard and you never know. Nothing is for sure, even with hard work. Life isn't fair, and some people are born with huge advantages.
@rv9990
@rv9990 7 жыл бұрын
remember when the SLK still had V8...
@kelvo6983
@kelvo6983 6 жыл бұрын
there should be an AMG SLC 63 and 63 S
@hejiramoves
@hejiramoves 4 жыл бұрын
yup sounded much better but my dad has the slc black series
@BlatentlyFakeName
@BlatentlyFakeName 4 жыл бұрын
Yea and around the same HP 15 years ago (probably a better torque curve on the v8 though), without any turbos :/ Progress.
@camarozl1857
@camarozl1857 7 жыл бұрын
I swear shmee I've been watching your videos since 2014 and never missed any video if I miss it I will go back and watch it (love you)❤️🔥
@benedictdonald4338
@benedictdonald4338 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely stunning. Beautiful car with a fantastic power plant.
@akhilmnair7324
@akhilmnair7324 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shmee you made my day.
@macstone9719
@macstone9719 7 жыл бұрын
A proper BRABUS chip will do the power trick.
@doctoboy210
@doctoboy210 7 жыл бұрын
thank you very much Tim
@peterbennpan7288
@peterbennpan7288 7 жыл бұрын
Nearly 1 million subscribers shmee something to be proud of. I try to support your channel the best i can 😎
@jo05dk
@jo05dk 7 жыл бұрын
I'm iffy about them using the AMG brand on these cars. but i stronly agree with merc launching these cars. A more sporty profile can only benefit MB, and i bet that these cars are FAR more suitable for real humans in the real world. Good and informative video Tim. I think your description gives a good feel for this car.
@Sidetops11
@Sidetops11 7 жыл бұрын
Stunning colour!
@AndreasLawson
@AndreasLawson 7 жыл бұрын
A very diplomatic review. As if you are holding something back.
@lln5381
@lln5381 6 жыл бұрын
I wanna get one, eventually.
@GrahamCain
@GrahamCain 7 жыл бұрын
They've really improved the styling with the latest model. I quite like the color too, but I'm a bit bias toward dark blue 😎
@cerryabc
@cerryabc 7 жыл бұрын
The SLK VIDEO was the first shmee video unsaw
@charliejg
@charliejg 7 жыл бұрын
Nice color on that SLC 43. Gotta love that Michigan "wilderness"! There was another video you posted a while back that looked to be shot in the USA. I thought I saw Pennsylvania plates on that vehicle(can't remember what it was right now) but might have also been Michigan. Anyway, cool footage! Rock On!
@garyglezer430
@garyglezer430 7 жыл бұрын
Shmee almost at 1Mil subs! been here since 50k
@vidiot9000
@vidiot9000 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this great video!
@jose11417
@jose11417 7 жыл бұрын
What is the worst Mercedes benz you driven
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to think if I've driven many that aren't AMG models, and probably other than my mother's SLK 350 I haven't
@tomfelton6789
@tomfelton6789 7 жыл бұрын
great answer
@QQuaeE
@QQuaeE 7 жыл бұрын
come on ... :P
@clockman47
@clockman47 7 жыл бұрын
THINKS, TIM AND CREW
@THECARSPOTTINGCraze
@THECARSPOTTINGCraze 7 жыл бұрын
It's the most amazing sounding engine ever ! The 3.0L 6 cylinder Also the beautiful DSG (Or is it DSG?)
@hapesethathi2742
@hapesethathi2742 7 жыл бұрын
Supercars in England no it's a 7 speed g tronic single clutch with torque converter
@lindajackson8751
@lindajackson8751 7 жыл бұрын
hi shmee150 hope you good thank you for your car vlog everyday I watch ur vid....by the way that spec of that car is amazing
@alvintay478
@alvintay478 3 жыл бұрын
This car looks simply stunning!. Can i have the color code of this blue please?
@nadeem1504
@nadeem1504 7 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell us how much it costs like when you want it in full option ?
@biker451
@biker451 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit disappointed in the performance of this car. The 2002 SLK32 AMG had a supercharged V-6 instead of the twin turbocharged V-6 with only 10hp less. The performance figures are almost identical with 0-60 about 4.5 seconds and 1/4 mile of about 13.0 seconds at 110mph. One would think that after 15 years they would have upped performance significantly yet this has remained static. So, for $65,000 I can have a new SLC43 AMG or for about $13,000 I could buy a used 2002 SLK32 AMG and get the same performance. M-B should do better. I've owned several SLKs and Chrysler Crossfires and the SLK32 is a screamer. I only wish any of them had three pedals.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 7 жыл бұрын
Of course being an early 2000's Mercedes, the 2002 SLK32 AMG will break down every other week and cost thousands to repair each time. On the plus side, it'll be much nicer to look at than this ugly turd.
@kelvo6983
@kelvo6983 6 жыл бұрын
The 2002 SLK doesn't have as much technology as the slc
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon 5 жыл бұрын
I don't get where you're coming from. It's a car that fulfills the expectations of it's class. If you say horsepower should be improved the longer a model is around, we would all have a 1000 hp cars by now
@sufyan5884
@sufyan5884 7 жыл бұрын
Here before the people complaining about the amount of Mercedes on this channel
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
Is that a problem? They are making great cars!
@brookead
@brookead 7 жыл бұрын
I am guessing he watches salomondrin too. :) :) They are getting a lot of flack about all the Mercs on their channel. :)
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
I guess I have a lot of every brand now, oh well
@henrymaheya7742
@henrymaheya7742 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely car shmee
@claviclenotch1876
@claviclenotch1876 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the same area where you tested the AMG GT roadster a few months ago?
@bobgees793
@bobgees793 7 жыл бұрын
The heart of AMG is a V8. These lesser AMGs, S-line, M-Sport, R-lines are just diluting and screwing the performance brands.
@AAA-sl3mg
@AAA-sl3mg 7 жыл бұрын
Bob Colonelgees yep, should be all or nothing imo, they don't seem special anymore
@jasonandrsen
@jasonandrsen 7 жыл бұрын
Bob Colonelgees I Guess There's NO SLC 55 Because How Terrible The SLK 55 Was Selling.. A 415 HP 5.5 L V8 Is Always Better Than A Fake AMG
@isogurkan
@isogurkan 7 жыл бұрын
At last great quality videos... Told u to get these cameras long ago...
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
Cameras have not changed ;)
@BBDSmint
@BBDSmint 7 жыл бұрын
The reason you keep bouncing off the limiter is because the dial is not representative of where the limiter actually is on these 43 cars. Something along the lines of the dial says its at 6500 but it's actually 6250.
@ashleighjones9886
@ashleighjones9886 7 жыл бұрын
Basically the exact same interior as the SL range (that model is due an update soon I hope)
@michaelh4484
@michaelh4484 7 жыл бұрын
How is the 9G transmission in the 43 different from the 7G in the 350? I found the 7G in the 350 to be a bit slow
@Braglemaster123
@Braglemaster123 2 жыл бұрын
My hairstylist would never own such a cool 😎 car. No
@yuriybindas2882
@yuriybindas2882 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@mosanso
@mosanso 7 жыл бұрын
Shmee, what is the "Sketchiest" situation you have been in during your travels?
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good question I need to think about
@mosanso
@mosanso 7 жыл бұрын
Certainly, also i should have added without being disparaging to any nation or event. Naturally.
@alainfreda3682
@alainfreda3682 4 жыл бұрын
Vraiment top et tenue de route in-cro-ya-ble !!!
@sanjitmathur9435
@sanjitmathur9435 7 жыл бұрын
Hi shmee! The camera which was used in the new BMW M5 video was really good. I really liked that footage, is it possible to make videos with that camera?
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not, that was a really professional camera mounted on the shoulder of the camera man and connected to a rig.
@FordMustangYT
@FordMustangYT 7 жыл бұрын
I really like this!
@arendrossouw3784
@arendrossouw3784 7 жыл бұрын
new car, great looks exterior, but old interior is a let down
@henrymaheya7742
@henrymaheya7742 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Freddyy28292
@Freddyy28292 7 жыл бұрын
Where were you in this video Tim? Just gorgeous!
@Lewis-gi1om
@Lewis-gi1om 7 жыл бұрын
Theres the 45s aswell e.g. A45 amg, Cla 45 and Gla 45.
@MrLucascorreajf
@MrLucascorreajf 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. Your mother still have the SLK. I remenber you reviewing her car when you had the S5 or the Vantage.
@FC-sx9ju
@FC-sx9ju 7 жыл бұрын
shmeetastic!
@lilleBoyy
@lilleBoyy 7 жыл бұрын
for me personally: v6
@jamesd8421
@jamesd8421 7 жыл бұрын
Looks nice but needs to be drastically lowered.
@AppleTechBeast
@AppleTechBeast 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds really slow for the power.
@GoAppo
@GoAppo 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Shmee I'm Guys !
@Deora1991
@Deora1991 7 жыл бұрын
I really don't understand why Mercedes didn't fit the 4,0 V8 in this one. The R171 had the 5,4 V8 and the prefacelift R172 had the 5,5 V8 with over 400 HP.
@DamianPLETechnicGarage
@DamianPLETechnicGarage 7 жыл бұрын
Deora Carphotography Downsizing... nothing more...
@rscosworthfan
@rscosworthfan 7 жыл бұрын
@ 3:15 that temperature gauge was looking a tad too high lol
@RonsRides
@RonsRides 7 жыл бұрын
Getting Mazda Miata vibes with this one...
@GTRWendy
@GTRWendy 7 жыл бұрын
that's a nice miata
@xx_mecoboy_xx
@xx_mecoboy_xx 7 жыл бұрын
GTR Wendy - funny
@neilbaldacchino3524
@neilbaldacchino3524 7 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between the slc and the sl?
@samwebber9069
@samwebber9069 7 жыл бұрын
Neil Baldacchino The SLC has come out in replacement of the SLK. It was called the SLC in another country years before (I forgot what country it was) 😂.
@michalis_stabelos
@michalis_stabelos 7 жыл бұрын
Why it does not have an amg badge on the engine?
@zsm5833
@zsm5833 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Stabelos because v6 vehicles are not true AMG but they design them
@michalis_stabelos
@michalis_stabelos 7 жыл бұрын
Shumang Chung ooh now I get it cool to know. Thanks :)
@stevennewman
@stevennewman 2 ай бұрын
This car is made to be remapped, adding about 100BHP and 100NMT remap this and it turns into an animal.
@brandonnava6338
@brandonnava6338 7 жыл бұрын
If I'm gonna shell out the money for a merc like that, it needs a v8
@leotac5737
@leotac5737 7 жыл бұрын
Where is this recorded?
@iraeich
@iraeich 7 жыл бұрын
Is that the CA upper desert?
@aidenp5768
@aidenp5768 7 жыл бұрын
Its nice but the proportions is just not write its like to wide but short but the BMW Z4 2018 will be looking good with there m version
@starlite-sw5wr
@starlite-sw5wr 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha ``maybe it is not fast enough``. 250 km/h and 0 to 100km/h in 4.9 seconds is impresive.
@rachelgreenwood7047
@rachelgreenwood7047 7 жыл бұрын
Havn't Mercedes just announced they are discontinuing the SLC at the end of the year????
@ritseee
@ritseee 7 жыл бұрын
Tim! Can you make a review with a C43 please? :)
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
I shot a video with the C63 and with the E43, so it fits somewhere in that crossover
@ritseee
@ritseee 7 жыл бұрын
Shmee150 Okay. Thank you very much for the reply. I've already ordered my C43, but I'm curious about your opinion. :)
@McBeamer94
@McBeamer94 7 жыл бұрын
SLC 43 or 718 Boxster S, that's the question! Well, f*ck that question: I'd actually look for a used Naturally Aspirated Boxster S or else wait for the upcoming soft-topped BMW Z5, with the Straight-6 of course! :-P Also, @9:48, what is this black coupe rolling behind the cherry-red E43??
@ragnarlothbrok6324
@ragnarlothbrok6324 7 жыл бұрын
MafiosoItaliano458 civic coupe
@hmm2928
@hmm2928 7 жыл бұрын
refresh squad ! 😁 btw personally I don't like the sl series 😅
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@hmm2928
@hmm2928 7 жыл бұрын
Shmee150 I always tune in for your videos 😄😄😄
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the support! Thank you
@silvestron1232
@silvestron1232 7 жыл бұрын
hi shmee aswm vid
@petervandiggelen6077
@petervandiggelen6077 7 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think you have a small preference fir the color blue? lol
@realtywithseankemp9704
@realtywithseankemp9704 7 жыл бұрын
Annnnd the tune alone from eurocharged uts it at 460HP and 528LB-FT of torque........holy fuckin shit.....
@RedC220
@RedC220 7 жыл бұрын
If you think this is quite nice, take a drive in an SL400 and you'll start to wonder why you spent three times as much on an Aston Martin. They're awesome and genuinely usable everyday.
@wtfdididolastnight
@wtfdididolastnight 7 жыл бұрын
Very sexy cruiser, too bad it has the old dashboard lay-out. PS: 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS INCOMING =)
@001mrjam
@001mrjam 7 жыл бұрын
Not quite a 63 or 65... but I wouldn't say no lol.
@rha600
@rha600 7 жыл бұрын
How incredibly sad that the AMG 43 engines are TWIN TURBO V6s that make a lousy 362hp while their 45 engines are a SINGLE TURBO 4 CYL that make 375hp. How these engines don't make 400+ hp to compete with the likes of the M3 and M4 is beyond me.
@AAA-sl3mg
@AAA-sl3mg 7 жыл бұрын
rha600 they can, but it's a de-tuned version to appeal to people who want power but not as much and can still get accepatble fuel economy and reliability out of them
@rha600
@rha600 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry but that's a ridiculous argument. No one is buying an AMG and wanting less power. If they want something detuned for economy (reliability is not a problem) then they could buy the regular V6 that still makes 326hp (see the E400). MB screwed the deal with their entire line. The 300 series cars are not 241hp I4s, no V6 option except the 43 which as I said, even when compared to it's competition should have in the 400hp range. When you have a twin turbo V6 that doesn't even make as much as your turbo I4 you should know you screwed up.
@mackie1001
@mackie1001 7 жыл бұрын
rha600 the 43 models compete with the Audi S and BMW Mxxx/x35/x40 models and in that segment they are the most powerful and aggressive
@rha600
@rha600 7 жыл бұрын
Please show me where MB says it competes with those? It does not. And even If that were the case, that means the C63 for example competes with the M3/M4 and has FAR more HP (over 500 compared to 425) yet they didn't do the same thing with the C43? You're claiming the C43 series competes with a series in BMW's lineup while making barely 20hp more? And you're still forgetting one key point to my statement.
@mackie1001
@mackie1001 7 жыл бұрын
rha600 They say it by price point and performance. C63 is an M3/4, RS4/5 and Alfa Giulia QF rival by the same measure. The E43 is outgunned by the new M550i though.
@TheRealBleach
@TheRealBleach 7 жыл бұрын
VROOM-VROOM
@radostinangelov9193
@radostinangelov9193 7 жыл бұрын
Tim you didn't say anything about the colour :D
@patrick_1984
@patrick_1984 7 жыл бұрын
SLC 43 is an upgrade from an SLK 350. SLK 55 successor doesint exist. Merc will come up with a '55' with more power for the slc.
@janicemurphy7878
@janicemurphy7878 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to get one but they won't give me enough for my cabriolet a class E so we didn't do it. A WM
@GennyR
@GennyR 7 жыл бұрын
Here before people complain that this is a girl's ca- Oh wait they beat me to it.
@michaelmcdonald9847
@michaelmcdonald9847 7 жыл бұрын
pathetic naming scheme. "55" and "63" used to actually stand for something
@michaelmcdonald9847
@michaelmcdonald9847 7 жыл бұрын
Random Car Guy Ah yes, Americans are so ignorant. That must explain why our economy is so much better than yours.
@michaelmcdonald9847
@michaelmcdonald9847 7 жыл бұрын
Random Car Guy Also, i wasn't criticizing them for downsizing, I was criticizing them for keeping the same names as their old cars even though those names now have no meaning behind them
@willywillywillywillywilly
@willywillywillywillywilly 7 жыл бұрын
Stop complaining.
@zsm5833
@zsm5833 7 жыл бұрын
it used to stand for displacement but not anymore
@michaelmcdonald9847
@michaelmcdonald9847 7 жыл бұрын
+Willy Willy I just don't like dishonest marketing
@Aphotography-kv7dr
@Aphotography-kv7dr 7 жыл бұрын
The slc will discontinue and this might be the last generation.
@hasanvic4853
@hasanvic4853 7 жыл бұрын
What does 43 stand for?
@Rick2010100
@Rick2010100 7 жыл бұрын
Equivalent to 4.3l naturally aspirated motor.
@chingchilla6777
@chingchilla6777 7 жыл бұрын
it's funny hearing Tim try to stick up for & explain the pro's to peasant vehicles... you know he never wants to step in this car ever again.
@draigygoch
@draigygoch 7 жыл бұрын
Where is the video?
@danI43541
@danI43541 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Audi TT! Especially the TTRS! That's because I'm not the biggest fan of the SLC and Z4
@DavidZafra
@DavidZafra 7 жыл бұрын
Dont looks like a 360cv car, needs to be much more aggressive
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, the R172 SLK was so much better looking, that front end with the tacky ass diamante things on the grill and deformed headlights is repulsive. The interior is very nice though.
@paulyeazel4668
@paulyeazel4668 7 жыл бұрын
so you're not going to tell us where you are at?
@manred6253
@manred6253 7 жыл бұрын
Who was here when shmee's mother had a slk350...
@rscosworthfan
@rscosworthfan 4 жыл бұрын
the antenna looks stupid the centre console is still offset its time they updated this properly if they have made up their mind they were supposed to be chopping this from the range the slc was going to be axed all this is is just a slk underneath nothing dramatically new from that
@composimple364
@composimple364 4 жыл бұрын
Think about it, at least its 3 cylinder for each passenger. In SL65, 6 cylinder for each. In GLB, 0.57143 for each 🤣🤣🤣
@aloisblazit0053
@aloisblazit0053 6 жыл бұрын
Shhthmmeee
@elastiekeltjeshaar
@elastiekeltjeshaar 7 жыл бұрын
From the side it looks a lot like a BMW Z4
@jasonandrsen
@jasonandrsen 7 жыл бұрын
The Pre Facelift Version, The SLK 55 AMG.. WAS BETTER! Sad That Mercedes-AMG Had Do Downgrade It..
@shashimohan04
@shashimohan04 7 жыл бұрын
where is d location?
@Shmee150
@Shmee150 7 жыл бұрын
I don't even know!
@sureshot70
@sureshot70 7 жыл бұрын
Obviously they don't want you telling us. The car has Michigan plates but background looked more like California. What state plates were on the majority of the other cars? That would be the obvious answer.Who travels to another country and doesn't know where the plane ticket was going to? I smell a cover up.
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