NEW EVIDENCE In Mike Postle Investigation

[@joeingram1]

Thanks everyone for watching - lets see what happens from here.

[@ScopesUnderated]

joeingram1 you’re a legend Joey. Seriously man you are a huge inspiration. FBI HIRE THIS MAN

[@mantassbakas]

You are almost making it personal to find and fight for everyone who was posteled, true poker ambasador

[@roccoVAL]

@@ScopesUnderated dude Joey didn't even figure this out on his own.. A lady that used to work at stones tweeted about it

[@brucekentallen]

I hope mike continues to cheat on those idiots playing shady games.

[@Donkadocus]

I need to learn PTO!

[@mattpkp]

He plays a high variance style with no variance in the results lol

[@johndunn9357]

Hello I

[@leclubber]

This

[@ggaccentc]

Well said

[@alectorellisbarber1626]

I gave Mike Postle a haircut today. He sat down in the chair and I just held the clippers straight while he maneuvered his head until it was done. We are all mere mortals to Postle.

[@taylorcoteus1875]

Dude this comment....😭😭

[@fernandinho_ny]

it actually makes sense that he would go to Torelli's barber

[@Browndaddy0267]

I heard he was chuck Norris's nephew

[@videonikita]

best comment ever

[@walmars3curity]

I bet he still had that fucking hat on

[@zanepalmer6033]

“Why’d he put his keys up on the table?” - joeingram1 “HE WANTED TO” - Serj Tankian

[@Galahad54]

I looked at your stats chart. That appears to put Mike Postle at 20 sigmas above normal, not 6, 10, or 12. That is the equivalent of flipping coins 20x20 times and getting heads each time. That is 2^400 to 1 against, or roughly 10^120 to 1 against. To put that in perspective, it is estimated that there between 10^78 and 10^86 atoms in the universe. So, it's picking one atom out of all the atoms in the universe correctly, and having 10^34 to 10^42 to 1 odds left over. Or from gambling numbers, there are 16x16=256 regular games in an NFL season. So this is the equivalent of betting all games one season and 9 games for each team in a second season (16x25)=400 and getting every single game correctly. I think a reasonable person would conclude that calling Mike Postle "God" is perhaps a bit of an understatement if he did this by skill alone (or any combination of luck and skill).

[@captainbontekoe6752]

Maybe there is some kind of a receiver in the keys, that can receive the signal that is going from table RFID reader to graphics room and then redirects that signal to his phone.

[@markus9415]

@@Galahad54 You can do all the correct calculations you want but simple body language says enough. Humans always give away information even if they try not to. Mike is a cheater and i know for 99.99 % certainty. It's easy when Mike gets a bit of conspiracy help. News of 8 hours ago is that that casino doesn't do live cashgames anymore so there you go, 1 + 1 = 2. Clear as day. You don't need to be a poker pro or anything to "read" people. Buy a book and test your experience and you will view humans very differently :D

[@donpodlas5546]

@@markus9415 You are correct sir! Having worked in the gaming profession for nearly 30 years I can safely say, this man is making way too many odd moves. It's extremely obvious he is picking up information from another source besides the game..they'll pop him soon I'm sure....

[@mikealfonso6403]

I'm just here to appreciate this joke...

[@pokerbruh]

Both wearing sleeves?! This is serious business!

[@TheGeneral_LUFC]

Ingram is wearing a fucking suit jacket. they mean business

[@ScottHedley]

“If you are *crushing* that hard at 1/3, _why are you even here_ ?”🤔🧐 Good point Doug!

[@BoleDaPole]

Bc he has kids to v take care of? He can't go globe trotting wrecking tables from Vegas to Timbuktu while raising kids

[@jpatche]

Its so easy to beat Mike Postle. If he bets huge on the river and you have a bad hand - call. If he bets huge on the river and you have a good hand - fold.

[@AndreasFroehliPoker]

Some people tried that and it worked :D

[@kfang864]

100% agreed. His tells are really obvious. Anytime he made a huge river shove, it was always because he had air or had a chop and he knew the other player didn't have the balls to call him. The players he was generally up against are just so bad. The only people that beat him were actual real pros like Taylor Caroll and Rich and Frank made one good call with his snap 2nd pair call. The others were basically throwing money at him so why not take it?

[@TonyJamesWatt]

​@@kfang864 he can see the cards. Have you even watched all of this ? It's pure cheating, silly

[@TonyJamesWatt]

​@kfang864 are you backward ?

[@jimsty7550]

​@@kfang864 sometimes he'd make those types of bets when his opponent had something like 8 high and he had a 10 high. Or he had a pair of 9's and his opponent had a pair of 4's. So it wasn't always that easy betting against the man who had the live reads.

[@Dub-ry4cs]

When he says “oh shit” when the 7 comes on the turn, and his opponent hasn’t shown his hand yet, that’s a DEAD giveaway that he knows what his opponent has. The only time you EVER hear someone say something like that is when you’re all in and both hands are turned over and that card makes it a sweat. Dead giveaway. He’s a cheat!

[@radigga6231]

what the time on the video for this?

[@zenathemalewarrior]

@@radigga6231 56:49

[@anthonyberthon4986]

Ryan West 10 8 hearts

[@Dub-ry4cs]

Anthony Berthon ?

[@VJbrar]

potential straight for bryan with a 10 8 when the 7 came which could be why someone would say oh shit

[@davidk3567]

Have you considered calling it Postle Hands?

[@mydogsbestfren7490]

Tim Portantno that aint it chief

[@DarrenSemotiuk]

Impostleable!

[@DonkeyKongBMAC]

Winner

[@iteran1031]

Question. What about live at the bike? You just posted how amazing Garret A correctly folded second nuts on a 3 bet preflop. Instead of looking at phone. He can have phone vibrate in pocket when he goes into the tank with blank stare. No text that vibrates. He is good. Texts saying he is behind. Hmmm

[@williampisano7573]

its could the voice of GOD the military used just look up "VOICE OF GOD MILITARY " or DARPA in google please leave a LIKE and tell Joey and Doug. bec i dont have there numbers DM him also

[@MaxsCognacReview]

The question is not if he cheated, it’s where does he live?

[@kevinsnyder1390]

At this point, if he was smart he wouldn't be living at one location lol

[@chilogutierrez458]

Theres a time in history this wpuldve warrantted a duel

[@tehmodestmouse6275]

@@1218jmm it’s a joke. Jesus

[@tehmodestmouse6275]

@@1218jmm lmao what? You also deleted your comment??

[@jonathanjankowski]

best season of true detectives so far

[@astudentofhistory6520]

@TM Films that stuffs out in the open.. they are too powerful to care if you know or not

[@williampisano7573]

its could the voice of GOD the military used just look up "VOICE OF GOD MILITARY " or DARPA in google please leave a LIKE and tell Joey and Doug. bec i dont have there numbers DM him also

[@abpanda1596]

@@williampisano7573 can't find anything about voice of God military. Any link?

[@AdamTrupish]

Bahahahaha

[@ZombieNationLTD]

Ummm... have you seen Alexandria Daddario? She’ll give you 2 good reasons to disagree

[@danielbird4472]

Something interesting you said “I think everyone who lost money to Mike should be paid their money back” - my question is what about the people who didn’t specifically loose money to mike, however had their hand somewhat influenced by a decision Mike made? Everyone who sat on a table with him should be compensated!!

[@julianlannoy808]

Absolutely. This is so bad, I can't believe it didn't pop up sooner.. Also got very greedy and tried to win all the time, very poor poker knowledge smh

[@unathorizdwatermelon]

But then anyone he has ever played with can claim thousands of dollars of potential earnings Mike stole. They can only compensate those who clearly lost a definite amount of money to him.

[@MrJamberee]

It’s a class action lawsuit, I believe. Anyone who has a claim can join. Collecting from Postle will be difficult, if not impossible. The cardroom will likely be found partially liable.

[@ConstantineAndreas]

I would watch an Ingram Polk regular podcast. Thanks guys for being on top of all this.

[@Jealod24]

Doug wouldn’t be able to handle Joey’s spastic nature

[@peterandersen6050]

if this Mike Postle has not come for a civil courtroom it is INSANE. ASK 200,000 Poker players who have played just 100,000 hands plus and ALL 200,000 WANT TO SAY MIKE POSTLE CHEATER. Mike Postle has to pay these players the money back and in PRISON, but how many are involved ???

[@jamesmorphe8003]

I DECIDED TO revisit this because im shocked no one has blown the whistle yet. i also cant figure why postle who knew he was being looked at didnt shut down the cheating for awhile.

[@lozgod]

Postle plays a little tighter than Potripper (VPIP 98% vs 76%). Other cheaters consider Postle a Nit and needs to loosen up his pre flop ranges. Include the off suit 7 gappers for balance.

[@vokurkar224]

Bone actually conducts sound better then air, you can try it yourself by playing a sound from e.g. fork tuner and placing it to next to your ear, when you stop hearing the sound (as it goes too quite) just move the fork behind ur ear closer to the bone and you should hear that sound again (as the vibrations) are transmitted thru the bone - we actually did this during a physics lessons at high school. There are also artificial ears which are drilled in that bone and enable the hearing to ppl who have disfunction ear (sound does not get propagated in there).

[@4ourse7ens49]

RFID READER: Maximum read distance of 1.5 meters (4 foot 11 inches) - usually under 1 meter (3 feet) (Seat #2 is a perfect seat to catalogue the most cards.) and you can use a single or multi port reader plus custom antennas to extend the read range to longer tag read distances or a wider RFID read zone.

[@youngpolar]

HIS KEYS! THEY ARE ON THE TABLE EVERY SESSION

[@sdickinson5234]

I don't think you can tell which card is in which spot that way. It will just read the entire deck.

[@joshuabyrd9737]

This is so disappointing this whole thing

[@williampisano7573]

its could the voice of GOD the military used just look up "VOICE OF GOD MILITARY " or DARPA in google please leave a LIKE and tell Joey and Doug. bec i dont have there numbers DM him also

[@vinyllpreviews9462]

I wonder if there is something at the table that reads the RFID of everyone's hands at the table, the relays it to the booth. What I'm wondering if sitting in the 1 or 2 seat would pick that up. The guy's company helped set up the system for the casino, so he'd know.

[@zzzgiantawake6195]

It has been announced that Chris Ferguson is doing the investigation. :P

[@joaoalegria7578]

Yes and Howard Lederer is overseeing it!

[@stevepwood]

I heard Phil Ivey's going to pitch in too...

[@andrespaz4439]

@@stevepwood Eh, Ivey didnt cheat

[@HorseRaceHandicrapper]

Of course. Jesus always knows when you sin.

[@MikeGreenwood51]

Andre Spaz Right he didn't cheat. He just got caught. Colusion was never cheating was it? The hundreds of thousands his team with fulltilt took from players for colusion was not really cheating was it? Course not. It's wasn't cheating up to the point that they got caught by Fulltilt and Ivy.

[@LooxeY]

Can someone alert the California gaming commission? Seriously. People need to be jailed here.

[@mjriemen]

No one will go to jail for even a day for any of this. Maybe some bans, maybe some Gaming Licenses revoked, but thats about it. Even if someone involved were convicted of a crime theyd most likely be looking at a small fine. Thats just how it is in Gaming law violations.

[@kaiseremotion854]

Most likely class action lawsuits will happen and things get shut down and people involved in this conspiracy losing tons of money

[@zzzppp1770]

Joey when you google about ear bone stuff it actually shows the same hat Mike was wearing on the photos a few sec later. Look in the left down corner at 1:25:10

[@michaelknight5295]

Right. It sure does. Lol! An outside source needs to investigate all of this.

[@tehmodestmouse6275]

Ear bones 🦴

[@jhendlee]

Will Upswing teach me how to play as well as Postle? Doubt it

[@Ξεξηρξειι3Ηεηξειεξ]

Dougt it*

[@lozgod]

Jeremy Hendricks good interneting.

[@Jeremy_the_bot]

That course is an extra thousand

[@Jeremy_the_bot]

@James Tyler no one said he is a bad player. Great players know more about how to cheat than most im sure. Look at the math of this situation, takes your pro mike bias out of it.

[@minhtrietvo8448]

@James Tyler why doesn't he play in the wsop circuit if he's "crushing the game"?

[@defeatignorance8681]

65BB/100. Enough said. I hope he goes broke from civil suits. Greatest poker player to ever live and only plays at one table. No tournaments, no big cash games, just that one table at a small stakes game. The evidence is overwhelming and establishes guilt beyond any reasonable doubt.

[@SuperJuiceman11]

This guy looks so guilty.... I love the clip where they have his brother in the booth talking to the commentator in his and he's laughing at about a story about how his brother cheated on a casino machine and then he'd find any angle possible and they're just laughing they come on dude there's a character right there in a nutshell

[@biggawinnacrapsa3870]

@James Tyler - Ivey was a fool, that's what I think. If he had me beside him instead of that woman, he'd still be killing it. You don't walk in and make every correct call, that's so stupid. You change the odds from house up a percent or two to you up a percent or three. If you're not happy winning a hundred grand a day and maybe losing 300 grand in one shot at the end of the week, to end up 300 grand ahead, you're too greedy.

[@Ibetiwon]

Good catch Dane! Once a cheater always a cheater. He looks like a dirtbag smells like dirtbag and sounds like a dirtbag.

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@peterandersen6050 He has Pete but let's be honest. You seem WAAY to interested in how and why?

[@peterandersen6050]

@@wildestcowboy2668 you are right I know my opinion NOTHING matters, this is up to Casino/involved/state/court/Etc.

[@wildestcowboy2668]

@@peterandersen6050 Usually the thief returns to the seen of the crime, would you agree?

[@BangsarRia]

Mike Postle 68o hand tweeted about by Ryan Feldman deconstructed: In the Production room, the Producer and the Graphics person see the live feed. Meanwhile, the Commentators in the booth are on a hand from 30 minutes ago on the Broadcast stream. When Postle raises, someone in the Production room starts freaking out because no-one would ever make that play with those cards. When T-Bone folds, Mike can muck and no-one will ever actually see the 86o. The hole cards graphic is quickly changed (to 9s8s for a Str8 Flush draw) in that small time window of opportunity before the next hand is dealt - after which the hole cards can no longer be changed in the video. But if the RFID had read the hole cards wrong, no-one could possibly have ever known until at least 30 minutes later, if and when Postle saw the Broadcast and noticed it. Some number of minutes after the hand, someone goes into the Booth while the hand is being commentated to tell them the graphics are wrong. The implication is that there is a coverup, and that it was done by someone other than Postle, in the Production Room.

[@balooko31]

"Taylor, the graphics are wrong?!" ... they said the graphics guy's name in that 86o -> 89ss hand

[@herbertgearing1702]

You will notice that in nearly every example of him "not cheating" involved someone standing next to him.

[@run4life2]

I actually like how serious Doug is taking this. For some reason, Joe is making jokes every 5 seconds and being sarcastic but Doug is actually trying to figure out if he's cheating.

[@GaryMillyz]

Joe is a human golden retriever.

[@anthonybynum8532]

Joey invested insane hours and basically broke this story solo. Its callled satire my friend.

[@Wote89]

I think that's just how much Doug loves the game. Someone doing something this dirty is pretty much a slap in the face of everyone who's put in the time to get good at it. But, I also appreciate how *angry* he is about that possibility.

[@defeatignorance8681]

This is a serious situation and Doug is an expert witness. There are no jokes to be made when you're investigating cheating allegations to help bring recognition to the people that have been illegally deprived of their hard earned money at this table. Doug also knows the gravity of the situation if he says the wrong thing legally speaking. Doug laid his argument out perfectly and no one can deny Postle cheated.

[@OriginalKarasu]

"If you have even one leak, the whole sink ships" -Doug Polk 34:10 LUL

[@jakemcleod4983]

I just checked to see if anyone commented this ahaha

[@OldSchooledTV]

I went back and laughed my ass off. Thanks originalkarasu :)

[@MrJamberee]

Yeah, and he’s wrong about analysts possibly being involved. What in the world would they have to offer that anybody would bring them into it? Bet it’s JFK and maybe a tech guy. That’s it.

[@FairmontJumpan23]

Found Worms character’s storyline for Rounders 2

[@jamesdeppeler793]

Maybe he's actually an incognito Ed Norton doing some character immersion method acting. He's been pretending to be some guy named Mike Postle for years undercover to prepare for this role.

[@kylebroussard5952]

Wow. The 95 hand at -1:08 is absolutely cheating. It's not even debatable. How is he putting him on a gutterball after putting him all in on the flop, after a 4 bet preflop. How could a 7 worry him without seeing his opponent's hand? The only 7 that can worry you is 77. Other than that, 108, or some random 2 pairs that should have absolutely folded out, Remember this is a 4-bet pot. If you put him on that exclusive set of hands - how are you relieved when a 2nd 7 peels off? Then consider what 7 or hand that improves on a 7 is in any non-maniac's preflop 4-bet range? A7, 87, 67, 108 suited maybe? Which by the way are all terrible plays for a winning player at these stakes so you can more or less count them out of your opponent's range. But even those improve on the river to beat him. So he is exclusively putting his opponent on a gutter to have this string of reactions. Then to know he's good before his opponent shows his hand with 3rd pair and 5 high. Unreal. It's not so much the all in that makes this suspect. Fine, jam with middle pair on a decent draw board. Fine we all do it sometimes. But the words and the body language before the cards are revealed is absolutely nothing less than evidence of cheating.

[@BOTA099]

OMG. 2 Days in a row Doug was wearing sleeves. This is serious. Freaking. Business.

[@mikeday5776]

As to the hat, I’m particularly deaf and bone conduction, how I’m listening to you, is a speaker driver that sends vibrations through the bone into the inner ear. The sound is crystal clear.

[@BoleDaPole]

You're telling me he got surgery just to cheat at Stones??

[@caboose2741]

@@BoleDaPole you don't need surgery for bone conduction.

[@publicaccount1589]

the biggest red flag of a cheater is the excuse they use: "I'm a soul reader."

[@TheRagges]

like when a old dude dates a kid and says shes an old soul

[@billybadtoes]

True because how can u get a read on someone who covers their heads everytime they're in a hand

[@billybadtoes]

Makes u wonder what's under his cap visor

[@frawdulent]

I rewatched Joey’s investigation livestreams every year since this happened. It’s fascinating how NO ONE noticed.

[@Jarlzdotorg]

Did anyone check the parking lot? Is he driving a DeLorean?

[@pabis6817]

Yep and a copy of the sports almanac in the passenger seat.

[@skylerrand]

I just realized I live 10 mins from Stones, ima drive over there tomorrow and try to find Mike

[@novylova1707]

he use brand new solver called RFID

[@davebellafamilyfun9356]

its simple--he has a live feed of the other players cards on his phone

[@crunch9876]

Dave & Bella Toy Adventures and how does he get his hands on the feed?

[@davebellafamilyfun9356]

@@crunch9876 its obvious the poker platform is in on it, prob have some type of contract where he keeps a % of the winnings and prob signed an NDA to keep quiet

[@ggaccentc]

@@davebellafamilyfun9356 why would the casino want that type of risk?

[@anti-apathy9715]

More likely someone was feeding him the cards on his ph in real time...i.e. 1. 7cQs, ('1' would be seat 1, etc.)

[@Teabagonyou]

@@ggaccentc It wasn’t the casino prodigy. It was an insider who worked there and had access to the feed. As to the why? Why do most people commit crime or illegal activities? Money. Whoever gave him access to the feed was obviously cutting the money up with him. How old are you? 🤦‍♂️

[@hhoust1]

Wouldn’t trust their 2nd internal investigation after what happened the first time. Everyone who lost money to mike (or even everyone who played against him) should launch a lawsuit against stones/Mike. The only way to get justice is through a 3rd party investigation. And as much as I love what Joey and Doug are doing, they don’t have the authority to access things like phone records/ video recordings that would be necessary for hard evidence. That being said S/O Joey and Doug and all the other pros who are doing everything they can to take this guy down

[@Yo-ce3ix]

Houston Howie if they take it to civil court (all they can do, mike can’t be charged with any crime) if he is found guilty you don’t need to pay the other people in civil .. if you know the law you would know that

[@hhoust1]

@@Yo-ce3ix if you have a class action lawsuit and the person/company is found guilty they would have to pay back the money

[@williampisano7573]

its could the voice of GOD the military used just look up "VOICE OF GOD MILITARY " or DARPA in google please leave a LIKE and tell Joey and Doug. bec i dont have there numbers DM him also

[@resiack]

@@williampisano7573 You're joking right?

[@kaiseremotion854]

@@Yo-ce3ix actually yes he can afterwards. If we go back in time to the oj trial(lets not get started on details) but he was found not guilty in criminal court but guilty in civil. Because civil and criminal have different points to get to. Civil is 51% criminal is very close to 100%(though nothing is 100%). He can also be tried in state and federal court separately depending on things.

[@jamesday7467]

53:24 - the female commentator says she’s “taking the 64 all day”, when it’s up against AQs and 95o? Then says that it’s out of the 95 and 64, *but that AQs is definitely not winning this hand when it’s a 52% favourite!?* You CANNOT tell me the commentators weren’t involved in this. Either they were (and are trying to give credit to Postle’s heinous play(s)), or are literally the worst commentators of all-time.

[@dcul8812]

James Day bruh. So ridiculous. It infuriated me

[@ManicMindTrick]

That was a pretty poor choice to find evidence against her. She said it sort of ironically like she expected the worse hand to win as a goof.

[@jamesday7467]

ManicMindTrick I didn’t think it was ironic at all. Think she was just trying to validate Postle’s play.

[@SirCanuckelhead]

No, she said that purely for entertainment. Commentators need to talk and she went with the classic underdog story.

[@ManicMindTrick]

@@SirCanuckelhead Precisely, but why do you have to be such a party pooper and talk sense when the lynch train is in full swing? We are no interested in any of that sense talk.

[@moedanglez]

You Doug your own grave, Postle

[@HorseRaceHandicrapper]

Good one.

[@fungidungie]

Been watching you for hours now, I don't even play poker, this is really interesting.

[@prettyuglysupernovarudegur2310]

Same I’m like on my 4th video @2am here lol

[@ceustraveling6958]

😂

[@mariodefoy4174]

You know Postle is a cheater just looking at the emotions. Smiling on an allin bet with marginal hands.... He shows no fears or no stress. Thats not possible! You guys are bang on with your analysis! Thank you for doing this for the poker community! You guys are the best! Always nice to hear what you have to say about poker.

[@jgeorgiou3307]

I have the perfect solution to this problem. Why not show the stream on a delay (let's say 10min) and even more fundamental is don't read the hole cards until after they are folded. This won't affect the stream viewers because by the time the hand is streamed the hole card graphics can show their face value because they have actually been read and folded.

[@michaelpressley6121]

Hats off to both of you for what you do for the poker community.

[@4ourse7ens49]

Don't take your hat off. You'll never be able to push AQ of C, AJ of D off of the 64S all-in with your monster 95 off. It's just not GTO.

[@sween1432]

To answer the question at 1:09:07... the "tournament director" has coordinated a secondary feed, in real-time, that the player has been granted access to by his mobile phone. This was likely orchestrated by the tournament director and the video streaming server was probably setup and administered by the person referenced at 1:12:27. If I were that IT guy, I would expect a visit from the FBI and get a lawyer or dip to a country without an extradition treaty.

[@JohnnyGalyon]

PTO lol . Postle Theory Optimal . Joey you are cracking me up. Apostle of Postle .

[@depressedessendonfan5702]

call of the century right there lol

[@AndyofSmeg]

The table system that reads the cards is somehow being sent to his phones. Simples

[@V3GAS4CE]

There are rfid apps for free on the app store, but why would you need a free one, when you can make 250K from using one. Simply intercept the signal, determine what a player is betting with from the information and bet accordingly. Programming these days you could write code to another device which vibrates determined on the best value action. Along with an insider which could make these even simpler.

[@4ourse7ens49]

KEYS???: “But wait, there’s more! The manufacturers also offer a version that’s innocently disguised as a Volvo key fob. And if Volvo’s not your thing, they also offer a fake VW key fob. The only problem is it’s so tiny its small battery can only last a half hour, and it uses a surprising amount of power.”

[@bromeliad6115]

Yes, follow the keys!

[@ParissaKhoury]

Unless you can prove these allegations in a court of law then you'd have a point but, until then keep your opinions separate from the facts.

[@Whyducry]

Oh you’re copying and pasting I get it

[@Investorpotamus]

I hope he goes to prison and someone gets it all in regularly.

[@randyrysdale852]

straddles

[@bleedscold]

Put that big slick to work.

[@HorseRaceHandicrapper]

That really cracked me up, or upped my crack.

[@cashandcarry72]

LMAO

[@williammcpherson6086]

Mr Commentator, how did you know the cards were wrong?

[@mistere6871]

well u could KINDA know what cards are coming by knowing what cards are ABSOLUTELY NOT going to come..... by knowing every single hand that has folded.....u can eliminate those cards from the deck

[@leclubber]

As soon as I saw Doug with sleeves and Joey wearing a suit, I knew they weren't here for the giveaway.

[@manifestyourlife6]

Feldman's point is one of the most damning against Mike/Stones, I'm curious what their defense will be if this is brought up in the investigation?

[@MrJamberee]

Unless somebody admits guilt, this is going to be a all about math and expert testimony for both sides. It is likely that a civil case will result in a large judgement against Stones and Postle. Of course, a plea deal by somebody would be the end

[@postforums6801]

46:00 I don't think you Trust his Self Righteous RFID.

[@exalted1966]

Graphics error hand is at 1:41 08 streamed on oct 1 //// of a 5:01 hour stream review.....

[@exalted1966]

how did 8 diamond and 6 clubs change... both were wrong... how did they know live... something very fishy

[@kfang864]

@@exalted1966 This has been proven to be entirely possible. Just read up the articles about Andrew Milner, the creator of the software and also Bart Hanson has a post about this. Bart confirmed that graphic errors were prevalent on the stream. This theory has completely been debunked which is why no on talks about it anymore but it was thought to be the smoking gun, a narrative pushed by Ryan Feldman and Matt Berkey.

[@jaydengreensill9467]

Dude looks how I imagine I looked cheating in my grade 10 math test

[@360flip19]

lol so on point.

[@gustavoc6812]

Exactly 🤣🤣🤣

[@ParissaKhoury]

Unless you can prove these allegations in a court of law then you'd have a point but, until then keep your opinions separate from the facts.

[@360flip19]

@@ParissaKhoury lol!?

[@ParissaKhoury]

@rj doggman Call me Mr Postle

[@menace1tb]

It's amazing when Doug ran how many big blinds he's winning (41:00) and what a normal poker player runs. It shows how much the pros look into things and the knowledge of everything they have.

[@travisobryan8460]

There is 100% something under his hat. Also in the clip when someone is behind him unexpectedly, he quickly looks back at him and then checks the left side of his hat as if he was worried he was caught...

[@tomojobs]

timestamp ffs

[@travisobryan8460]

@James Tyler did you see the pic where it fits snug and nicely over the ear? I don't think there is a smoking gun yet though so I agree with you there. It's more like a ton of pieces of circumstantial evidence.

[@colinpetersen1173]

@James Tyler you made multiple comments on Veronica's videos criticising her for raising the issue...and now you're in Doug's comments saying just you happen to own the same hat as Mike.

[@sciencenate]

James Tyler I’m sorry ubderarmour is so important in your life... consolations

[@thetimeisnow9236]

James Tyler... Damn, you know the known facts about when someone speaks bad about others? That person is speaking about themselves. People like yourself are already dead. I feel bad for your family, I only could imagine the abuse they take from you. Oh and I must say UA hats fit great 😝.

[@PoppysGuitar]

Doug's question about why 1/3 is so on point. Frankly it's like a guy with a 98 mph fastball playing ball with the local single A team.

[@mlkpsu]

Simple solution, don’t play at Stones.

[@ziggle5000]

lol Jay, you're clueless

[@MK-13337]

@Jay D 54o against AK AK is about 45% to win the pot. You need 33% equity to break even on a call. If either one of your opponents has any pocket pair higher than a 5 you are drawing to about 10%. Nobody that knows anything about poker could justify calling a shove and a call with 54o. That's just lighting money on fire, unless you are specifically against AK AK

[@Nick-mb7wc]

Mike 'Cyborg' Postle is actually a new age poker bot sent from the future. The 600 series bot had rubber skin and we spotted those easily. But these are new, they look human. Sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. We had to wait til he played these streams before we could zero him :)

[@catchingdirtysouthjersey4581]

34:13 “the whole sink ships”lol

[@vasildyulgerov795]

In PTO sinks ship some % of the time

[@guerro327]

The hole sinks the ship

[@tomcads1604]

In sovjet in Russia ...

[@pastramisalami]

the sink ships it in, the toilet folds, and bathtub calls.

[@castricv]

What upsets you so much is that it destroys the integrity of the game. Everywhere. Ive been playing 20 years and wondering if all those long nights or online i was just getting cheated makes me sick and not want to play again. But what really gets you is his childlike joy at having discovered the cheat code and then abuses it to his hearts content. But even that isn't all of why you are mad. No you're most mad because you assumed there was a science, an order to this. That poker "pros" commenting on this would go what? Instead of just covering it up to cover their ignorance. And then you realize that life is this. The media is this. Cheaters are the winners but there is more to life than what we see.

[@123Mathzak]

“You cant have one leak or the whole sink ships” - Doug Polk 2019 34:10

[@Ross-ch9vv]

Motto of a shitty sink manufacturer

[@sharpshooter147]

He has a couple of drinks before recording I know this cos im living in his cupboard shhhhh don't tell him

[@alfawoof1]

He didn't say "whole", he said "hole". Holes, do sink ships.

[@123Mathzak]

alfawoof1 You right

[@deanbayasen8362]

So if I was player in any of those sessions he was on and I have lost I can sue the casino for my loses?

[@kaiseremotion854]

You can theoretically sue him, sue the casino, and sue every single person who knew.

[@MrJamberee]

There is a lawsuit filed. I believe all persons who have a claim can join the lawsuit.

[@johnywaters6791]

Say Everyone who lost money against Mike Postle end up getting there money back but you don’t know if that person was tilted because MIKE bluffed him on a pot and that player was effected by it and later that made that person second guess their own decision making and abilities which later play a role which they end up misplaying or folding a big hand whether it be on that stream or later that day off stream!

[@ww2079]

How bad at cheating could you be? Why would this spot even be a consideration? Just use it to help make good decisions instead of crazy moves and he would have never been caught.

[@TheGeneral_LUFC]

bring Postle to LATB and see how he gets on. if he runs like he has he's a GOD

[@bradhartliep879]

The fact that the cards change PROVES Mike is not working alone .. it proves somebody on the Crew is involved ..

[@ryangi5]

Guys, this isn’t hard. The JFKDork was feeding him the hole cards through Mike’s phone and the bone conduction speaker in his hat. (The bone conduction speaker is about as clear as in-ear headphones, but nothing goes into your ear.)

[@abpanda1596]

Can you show an example of this bone conduction speakers?

[@matthewmccarthy4152]

@@abpanda1596 1:25:00 mark

[@babochee]

@@abpanda1596 You see it sticking out pretty well on our right side of his head. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKallqV_rZ2YZ68

[@ryangi5]

@@abpanda1596 They come in various forms, but here's one example of bone conduction headphones (kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHTUmqaOrdmYndE). I first read about them in the book "No Easy Day." After reading in that book that Seal Team 6 uses bone conduction headphones as part of their communication system, I was intrigued enough that I bought some. Rather than go in your ear, they vibrate against the bones in your head and transmit sound to your ear that way. An advantage for joggers is that your ears are open so that you can hear other noises, such as cars. I'm guessing that Seals use them so they can wear ear protection so they don't get ear damage from shooting (especially in doors), but the can still hear their radio comms.

[@lastform3871]

@doug at 52:37 notice Mikes hat above his ear. Isn’t it oddly thicker right there? Seems like there might be some kind of sensor or something built into his hat

[@dedeh7l]

"Hold the Phone with your left hand. If the Phone vibrates one time, you fold. two times, call. three times, raise and so on" . Dont need to have a very elaborated plan to cheat if you have a partner behind the cameras with a cellphone.

[@jamesdeppeler793]

Yeah he looks at it though. And that would make noise other people can hear.

[@chrisentolentino1325]

Wow ur a God!

[@apealeal3973]

I bought my girlfriend a portable vibrater that connects to my phone through bluetooth. We have the same code. Your assessment is very possible.

[@kristersbukss3332]

1:25:12 left side image, exact brand hat what Mike Postle use

[@MrPezdispencer]

Man does it suck when the whole sink ships.

[@jeffjarjoura219]

He mentioned a "hole" in the context of someone could have leaked information. "The HOLE sinks ships." Not "whole."

[@jeremyeverakes9677]

There are ways that this can just be hacked! Doesn’t 100% mean someone on the production side is in on it. Can’t rule out that their system was hacked! Bellagio heist!

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Thank you for not being in the same room sitting next to each other with shoulders touching.

[@joeljoeljoel]

29:00 He'd just need to hack the card display system. Lots easier than hacking the RFID itself. Someone with the same RFID system should demo how easy it is to hack and cheat.

[@ryangi5]

Here’s another problem with “the graphics are wrong,” excuse. The RFID reader got it wrong for not one, but TWO cards in one hand. When you consider that, in addition to all of the other reasons they point out, that excuse is evidence of cheating. The guy who said, “I talked with Mike and he said I had 8s9s,” is 100% in on it! He felt the need to change it because it was too obvious.

[@thesociallyresponsibleanar2882]

As someone who has had bad hearing and has attended ear nose and throat specialists since I was young, I can confirm for a person who has normal hearing 70% of sound is heard by the ear itself and 30% is detected and heard through the bone behind the ear

[@1LiuKang1]

I love Joe Ingram, the guy cracks me up man. Just seeing him. nice energy.

[@GaryMillyz]

It's called Crack.

[@Antyvas]

@@GaryMillyz I WANTS ME SUM DAT SNAP CRACKLE AND CORN POP

[@rafaelgroswirt]

Its very clear, there is a person with access to the back end of the RFID system and relaying the info to the players's phone. He knows what cards the others have. Then on the river no more cards come, so he can play perfect. Talk to the maker of the RFID system, there is a breach of the RFID system. They need to change the card reading method for the show to recover credibility. Its very clear what is happening. He picks his spots and mix it up to try to shake suspicion. As he knows they are on to him, he starts to lose. The person is not even in the building. Its not the people there or announcers, they dont even know, is a person very familiar with the RFID system, so it has to be an insider of the RFID company that sold that system and no need to be on premises. Find the RFID maker. His fav spot is when 2 other players have A and he has a low card. Here is the maker of that RFID system. Someone from that company was the person accessing the data and sending to the player www.videopokertable.net/features.aspx

[@bishop198666]

Rafael Groswirt how does this rfid work? Is there something in the cards to identify them?

[@enlichvini4255]

if he had the nuts. Why it took him so long to call with 89?

[@therandystyle]

Something Curious. About four or five months ago the network system was down in the poker room at stones for about three weeks. The music wasn’t working some of the graphics on the TVs around the poker room were not working, they even canceled a live stream one Saturday night due to the glitch. Wondering if someone tapped into the system because of this and caused this problem? Hmmmm

[@Nash9r]

I mean, how dumb are these guys? If you'd done this more subtle, they could have come through with this. But greed got the better of them fortunately, I'd guess.

[@blakegibson674]

To me this is the spookiest part. If someone with half a brain was doing this it could be super hard to bust them even over a long period of time. Play a normal balanced strategy with some minor variations and you could just print infinitely.

[@DarrenSemotiuk]

POTRIPPER made the same mistake

[@RobertS122]

Someone on production is in on this guaranteed. They even have graphics they overlay on the show to make light of this fucking rigged game. He's getting rfid info on his phone from somewhere. Either his phone is capturing it from the table or someone is sending it to him from the production booth.

[@2011blueman]

People that cheat like this always get caught because they get too greedy. People don't scam to the point where it's plausible and stop, they always cheat to get the most money which inevitability gets them noticed and caught.

[@ReedP]

@@2011blueman It's nice to believe that's true, but how can you know if they haven't got caught? I agree with Blake it's fucking spooky, and sadly it's probably going to make people very skeptical of playing on any stream, even ones that are most likely completely Up & Up like LATB.

[@williamhamilton6321]

1. is rfid interception safeguarded? Can the rfid system identify if it’s being attacked real time or even after the fact with certainty. If not, he easily found a way to display rfid on his phone knowing its impossible to detect or it wouldnt be done, ever.

[@ThomasShue]

There has to be a dual feed. Like a tiny wifi that's sending the live feed to a 3rd party who can see the feed live. Then an app was built to transmit the raw data to his cell phone so he knows how to play in the hands that he plays.

[@scottnelson5636]

pity we cant get access to his phone data stream

[@Jon-dragonwolf]

One could prove it by hacking the feed to mikes phone and giving him false rfid info.....

[@none3763]

As a casino manager of 30 years, there is no way I would allow any customer to jeopardise my business or reputation. It's all I have. His pattern of play would have been identified long ago and if there was any doubt at all, a quiet word to explain he's no longer welcome.

[@67steinip]

"The whole sink ships -Polk" 😁😁

[@Charliechorizo]

34:14 timestampt it.

[@PrSndreLrsn]

@1:13:00 is it not possible they record commentary live, then publish it on delay?

[@tinkertime577]

Honestly who thinks that WHEN mike is CONvicted, anyone who can show that they lost to mIkE gets one free punch?

[@rustlemyjimmys]

Just my two cents as a casual player, professional engineer and one time magician. There are several magic trick apps that display a selected card in the phones clock. The hour denotes the suit and the minutes denote the value ie. 10:01 might be ace of hearts and 11:13 King of diamonds. It really wouldn't be that hard to modify or create code like that to relay data on each hand via a push or message to his phone. The hat is also interesting, again there are tricks that allow a 'psychic' to make predictions based on pulses delivered to a small vibration unit. It would be extremely easy to plant something like that in the band of a hat which is where his hand always seems to fall. Either way it would be a solid scam if he didn't over play it and threw away some of the sketchy hands whilst keeping his big pushes to more realistic postions. Greed and believing you're the smartest guy in the room are big flaws though.

[@joevorachack3791]

Doc Holliday will had shot him down at the poker table.

[@martinmccloskey2435]

As a former police officer I would certainly arrest this guy. And ask an attorney this guy would be convicted probably 100% of the time for cheating

[@halcyonataractic8623]

I love it when Doug smiles. 😁

[@raven1538]

This is what this guy could be using to cheat at poker. Cynaps Assist: Assistive Listening via Bone Conduction

[@ronbutcher9412]

Just curious: if this guy knows the whole poker world is watching him 24/7, wouldn't it make sense he'd back off the constant winning streak?

[@chrisp2757]

A) Can’t “prove” he stared at his phone or his dong. B) Can’t “prove” that he isn’t just a Gaaaawwwd. Since it’s happening inside a casino, getting the cops involved takes a lot of evidence. These videos are only enough to get the casino and maybe the gaming commission involved, but then see A & B. Someone who lost money would have to go to the cops, but then it’s maybe a couple grand they lost, good luck getting detectives involved when it’s only a couple grand, and A+B.

[@funnellw]

Why do I feel like Doug’s the dad Joey never had?

[@Welcome2Niches]

Several times in my head I hear "SON" and then something along the lines of ",without the God comment"/"the God comments is not necessary." Doug was rly bothered with any mention of the word God. Is this a thing where he's afraid of KZbin coming at him or some Bible Thumping nut job coming after him?

[@Welcome2Niches]

@Craig Laycox I just saw this but I am so confused on many levels. Why come at me over THAT question? The name is a nickname I've had from counter strike back in 2007. So besides the odd reason to go after me bc of my youtube name.. lol sorry that is just... anyways, are you saying I am a Christian that believes in God or are you saying I am not? I honestly don't know from your comment. For the record I am not. Not religious at all. Just thought it was funny how Doug kept saying that.

[@Welcome2Niches]

@Alien Intention who is seeking validation and approval?

[@Welcome2Niches]

@Alien Intention do you not see a video and laugh and type your comment out? I don't know anyone on here nor am I part of the poker community. The jumps you made in your comment just.. they are massive and I am so confused on how you got there. I am not going to personally attack you though. I honestly thought that it was funny Doug kept saying that. Nothing more, nothing less. I am obviously "feeding the trolls" but it still is odd the way you came at this if I am reading what you said correctly.