The Biggest Problem Facing Nintendo

[@Feelin_DanDy]

I like how he said he wasn't going to yell at the beginning of the video, then the whole video *YELL* Lol

[@Shokio]

+Ness Kirby I ended up getting frustrated as I spoke lol. Leave me alone.

[@Feelin_DanDy]

Shokio I kid xD I know what you mean though.

[@smackmmk]

+Shokio uhh i identife as a potato wage.So i need federation force to represent me.

[@samsonfgc3472]

+smackmmk but federation force represents potato WEDGES. sorry, just had to.

[@TravelWright22]

+Shokio LOL

[@RuffyYoshi]

Reggie: We want the hardcore gamers back! *animal crossing amiibo festival* *no metroid* *paper mario color trash* *half assed mario tennis* WHAT!!

[@AlexMolina93]

I don't trust Reggie after all this, he used to be cool but not anymore.

[@RuffyYoshi]

Alex Molina Granted, the WiiU has good games, but if they had listened to what we wanted it could have a lot more.

[@fireheart4560]

"IT IS AN RPG WITHOUT EXPERIENCE POINTS WHAT THE FUCK"

[@MegamanElric16]

+fireheart4560 That's like an sandbox game set on a linear path lol

[@jayDee92133]

Nintendo is nintendo's worst enemy.

[@MoneyFolder]

Facts.

[@DaLooseGoose11]

+Jay Dee Haha, omg i hear the same thing about world of warcraft. literally the same thing

[@smashbrospippop1931]

Lil finni stiff

[@boutchyrule]

truth

[@M3rtyville]

+Jay Dee And Nintendo "fans". I am keep reading those same comments "I don't see the problem with this." or "You are just a hater."

[@Surgemaster2012]

I 100 % agree with this. I was thinking the exact same thing to people defending Paper Mario Color Splash with rose covered glasses saying "You're not giving it a chance, you're being whiners etc" when the main point us Paper Mario and Metroid fans have isn't because of the change or "not giving" anything a chance, but its because they're taking away what works in exchange for turning the series into experimental gimmick testers. It's okay to have an optimistic approach, but when it comes at the expense of not looking at what is wrong and just assuming people are "spoiled whiners" then I'm sorry it doesn't cut it there. Paper Mario isn't even an RPG series anymore. What got me is when the announcer stated "Paper Mario is an Action/Adventure Genre" according to this in their own logic they never considered this series an RPG, they basically told us the fans in their own words "Hey this series has no identity anymore, we're just going to use it to test our latest gimmick" If a series has identity loss to the point where even the fans are hurt. The what does that say? People like to assume we're whining based on a short trailer, when honestly what the trailer provides is exactly what the game itself is given us. An unneeded identity loss. What kind of RPG series doesn't have Exp? Plus the "partners" we are given aren't even a legit partner but more of an object related to the main gimmick themed used. Rather than 1/4th of an entire gameplay style being used to make up the series main themed mechanic like 64 and TTYD. It's like all of a sudden Nintendo drops the ball and says "Oh by the way Kirby is a Hack N Slash now" They also jump to conclusions assuming Nintendo is going to do what with these games. Which is again just their logic clouded by rose covered glasses. Again they can have a positive approach and are allowed to still like them, by they are failing to understand the core problems as a whole. As a fan of Paper Mario 64 and TTYD and the Metroid series I'm disgusted. I understand those who have a positive approach and want to see what the game has, that's okay, you're as entitled to keep your positivity as we fans are allowed to keep our legit criticisms. Honestly another reason I don't agree with the chance cared is because when you look at it in a non-barebones and rose colored perspective, what do you truly see? Do you see PM64? Do You see TTYD or some Super elements? No, it's all 100% Sticker Star, all they did was slightly altered a couple of things and added a new gimmick to mooch off of what Sticker Star had. These elements in this trailer all tell us fans that this direction for the series isn't the series itself, but rather something completely different. There is such a thing as "judging a book by its cover" and legitimately having criticism to throw over poor decision making. The JAP/EU trailers already confirmed there's no Exp again.. And honestly I don't see this type of thing being in an early stage knowing it's coming out later this year unless there's a huge delay. Even so the gimmick stuff isn't what Paper Mario needs, it's not what the series is about. Be optimistic as much as you want, I'm not saying you can't, but just understand why we fans of Metroid and Paper Mario are bashing these new games. Nintendo has also ruined the Mario party series as if Mario Party lately has been so bland and lackluster. And there's Mario Tennis Ultra Stale.

[@0215MADman]

Even Super Paper Mario had EXP.

[@GMBalHajri1990]

Their stubbornness is their biggest problem period.

[@GMBalHajri1990]

***** Sorry..?

[@chaosthunder]

+GMB profile pic lol

[@GMBalHajri1990]

***** Ah, I see haha

[@Retro_Fear]

stop making shitty spin offs & stop censoring jrpg's, it's that fucking simple.

[@AwshomeHat]

Seeing Paper Mario Color Splash look like goddamn Sticker Star I'm no longer a hard core Nintendo fan. I've been disappointed way to many times.

[@Kenshin0011]

We need to clarify something here, Shokio. Nintendo doesn't make these recent games in their personal, desired vision. They INTENTIONALLY add gimmicks and/or remove landmark features because THEY THINK we would like it better! They think these alterations will increase sales and make more people more happy. All it is doing is making less people, less happy, because everyone has moved on.

[@alphajnitro0072]

I think that it's the pressure Nintendo is getting to be different. People are always on Nintendo about rehashing stuff but honestly the "rehashed" stuff is the best selling stuff. look at Smash, Pokemon, Zelda, 2d Mario. everything they tried to change has failed or received bad press. paper Mario. Mario party. it just seems like Nintendo doesn't understand what's happening.

[@retrogamerfan123]

I'd love for Nintendo to get out of there 90's mind set and stop censoring every jrpg out there from cleavage to altering clothing in Tokyo mirage sessions a m rated game it's already happening I didn't mind the pants but it's getting worse

[@TheVideoGamHer]

Potato wedges!!!!!!

[@youhei1849]

I died when he yelled that xD

[@JJwalkers12]

"- I'm not going to yell-" *Yells*

[@mexicanzoidburg8072]

Nintendo needs to learn how to experiment while still keeping the series roots. It always seems like nintendo experiments too much, to the point when the franchise is unrecognizable (sticker star), or they either do fuck all with the franchise leaving it stagnant (3d world).

[@juicedup14]

Nintendo is that uncle that keeps trying to get "in" with the crowd.

[@weegeeman13]

+juicedup14 I have never heard this analogy before

[@MegaLagann]

Nintendo has one of the most vocal fanbases out there. So how in the hell can they keep making games that their audience doesn't want. Paper Mario fans want a new game that's like The Thousand Year Door and not Sticker Star 2. Paper Mario Wii U is announced and it's Sticker Star 2. Animal Crossing fans want a new game on Wii U. We get amiibo festival instead. Metroid fans want something, ANYTHING...we get a game that doesn't even look like a Metroid game. Maybe because most of Nintendo big developers are working on NX games Nintendo has had to fill their release schedule with low budget, quick to churn out spin-offs and this is the resulting backlash. Maybe when the NX announced we get a 3D Mario game like 64 or Galaxy and not a weird mix between 2D and 3D that basically doesn't appeal to either fans, maybe we'll finally get an actual fucking Metroid game. Maybe. But it's hard to keep faith in Nintendo these days. Maybe the NX will be when Nintendo finally changes things. Because after the failure of Nintendo this gen they can't see what needs to be fixed, then they deserve anything that happens to them.

[@mrshmuga9]

I'm thinking the same thing, these low quality games are just filler until the NX. Because back with the Wii, it's last year or two had next to nothing, so they probably are avoiding that this time. And since the Wii U hasn't sold as well as the Wii, they want to have a steady release of games coming out to at least make some money until everyone drops the Wii U like the plague. Plus they realized making big games for the Wii U would be a fruitless endeavor and took the quicker route. It's not great for fans or their image, but for Nintendo releasing something is better than nothing.

[@symphomaniac]

Because a LOT of fans are simply taking it up the ass and are okay with what Nintendo is doing

[@MegaLagann]

mrshmuga9 That's what I hope, but being optimistic about Nintendo these days is hard. I want the NX to be their comeback, the next SNES, hell even if it were their last system let it be like the Dreamcast and be a huge send off instead of the whimper the Wii U was, but like I said it's hard to be optimistic about Nintendo because this gen was filled with bad decision after bad decision. E3 is gonna be interesting.

[@mrshmuga9]

Mega Lagann It hasn't been completely awful. They've had plenty of great Wii U games, it's just been over the last year they've clearly been padding out their lineup by re-using assets, another port, or shoddy games. But, they also didn't give us a proper account system for Wii U/3DS, add voice chat to any of their games, no crossbuy promotions for VC games, they pitched the console as "for you/us" but didn't live up to what we asked for, and added in a new controller that sacrificed any all third party support (besides lack of power) which AGAIN they hardly supported with their own games. I love Nintendo's franchises... but I have plenty of Wii U games on my backlog that I can play while I wait to see how the NX pans out. E3 better be one hell of a show, especially if the NX launches this year and we're not getting news any earlier (which is a mistake to be honest).

[@TheRainbowSMASH]

+DTY16 like shokios brother once said "If someone craps,someone will eat"

[@Daniel328DT]

I miss these kinds of videos Shokio used to make.

[@razormc954]

The biggest problems that Nintendo are going through are caused by stubborness, how they are out of touch with their fanbase, how they are not innovating like they used to, and how they are focusing on Japan WAY TOO MUCH, Nintendo needs to stop alienating their fans

[@childhoodhero2542]

Oh boy. The avatar analogy made me crack up.

[@AntiRiku]

This is why people like you are needed. It's unfortunate though cause I'm heavily relating to what you are saying. I'm twenty and one of those hardcore Nintendo fans who are on the brink of leaving. Used to stay up every night to watch E3. Ditched my friends to run home to catch the Nintendo Directs. Also purchased every console of theirs on the day it launched. Now however, it's different. I'm just as enthusiastic about games, just not Nintendo.

[@Ozzhiroth]

+Anti Riku All it took for me to not want an NX was to play Xenoblade X for 10 hours. Sold that garbage. That was not Xenoblade or Xenogears or Xenosaga, it was boring and MMO to the max. I asked why I even owned a Wii U now that xenoblade X was kaput and worthless for me. I'll just go back and replay Xenoblade wii for my fix since NX one won't be any good since trust has been lost. This sentiment has been echoed for me and my brother in different ways. My brother has zero faith in zelda after what they did to skyward sword, linear game and . I lost faith in portable titles and haven't had trust since phantom hourglass was so awful. Link between worlds was not gonna draw me back after 2 crummy portable zeldas in a row based on my favorite zelda title, wind waker.

[@micman963]

+Ozzhiroth Gigliotti Link between worlds is basically a perfect top-down Zelda game, it is leagues above the DS games, might be one of the best Zeldas of all time

[@Ozzhiroth]

+micman963 doesn't matter. I will never touch a portable Zelda post gba ever again. the experience from those was too souring on my tastes. I do not trust it, my faith is beyond damaged.

[@AllieRX]

God forbid Nintendo declines to the point where they're forced to go third-party.

[@tacosalvapor9264]

+Allie-RX That would be cool. As long as they start making great, not just good, games again.

[@mermaidman961]

+wolfminus I use to be opposed to this idea but if Nintendo just focused 100% on making kick ass games again like in the good old days that would be great. Don't get me wrong we've had some stellar titles on Wii U (3D world being one of my favorite games this gen) but I can't help but think what it would be like if N didn't have to worry about their systems and just made games.

[@boutchyrule]

That would be terrible for them considering the fact that they literally saved the gaming industry back in the day..it's a shame they can't see that it's them that's really killing their brand.

[@tacosalvapor9264]

Fried Ice Cream They're too stubborn to do so, sadly enough.

[@riseshiningundam]

is this a renaissance shokio is back

[@CharismaStrategies]

Glad to see you're becoming active again, Shokio! Let it stay that way, bro.

[@StephenHopkinsVaults]

i hear a lot saying graphics don't matter, but it does. todays technology its a must that games look visually impressive. 8 bit 16 bit games the technology was very limited now we got far advanced technology and knowledge with developing games. with Nintendo i want to see luigi's mansion on wii u, pokemon stadium 3, galaxy 3, f zero, 1080 snowboarding, pilot wings, final fight, those amazing Disney platformers.

[@SilverEspeon]

So far, it seems like that the Nintendo fan base is becoming the new Sonic fan base/bronies.

[@kong732ify]

Thanks based Shok for making this video, you have no idea how many times I've felt like saying this, especially with regards to color splash. The way I assess the problem is that Nintendo only seems to have a customer support service because it sounds good to say that they do, and they never actually use it for anything meaningful (at least, it feels that way outside of their Japanese fan base whose criticisms are apparently gospel if sticker star's development is anything to go by). This leads to this infuriating disconnect where Nintendo only "innovates" a series whenever they feel like it (paper Mario and metroid series even though we ask them to keep things traditional in such cases), but whenever we actually want a series to evolve (star fox, Mario kart, etc.) they barely iterate on it at all. It genuinely feels hopeless to try to get through to them as they always seem to do the opposite of what their fan base asks of them. If they don't get with the times and actually acknowledge that they have dedicsted customers beyond the 10 square miles that surrounds their headquarters, they sure as hell are going to lose longtime fans such as myself. There really is so much of this neglect a customer can take, and nintendo's bullshit mishandling of their IPs this generation really stretched my patience to its absolute limits.

[@SeaSlug]

in the Nintendo Direct they called paper mario and action adventure franchise

[@alexchrollo]

+SeaSlug Sad, its an RPG!!! OR SUPPOSED TO BE!

[@TooTakun]

Could you imagine a Mario Kart game without a proper battle mode? Huehuehue

[@thegreatgahooli]

You're somehow very nostalgic for me. I remember an 13 year old me looking for wiiU reviews in 2012 (I'm 17) and it doesn't seem like a very long time but seeing you doing your thing brings me right back. Great work shokio.

[@sonicrusher64]

The people who are making Color Splash and decided to make this the staple for Paper Mario are just plain insane.

[@pastqr]

the NX is nintendos last chance for me

[@CaptDnaDonut]

So the video started out pretty quiet. Then I found myself slowly turning the volume down for the first few minutes.

[@kirbyswarpstar123]

Very well said, Shokio. Very well said. Nintendo has been releasing games such as Metroid Prime: Federation Force, Paper Mario: Color Splash, Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer and amiibo Festival, Chibi-Robo: Zip-Lash, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Earthbound Beginnings, Pokémon Battle Trozei, Shuffle, and Picross, Zelda: Tri Force Heroes, Hyrule Warriors: Legends, and more, and that can not continue. Nintendrones, wake up. This needs to stop.

[@SilverEspeon]

+kirbyswarpstar123 The whole Earthbound Beginnings thing, that was a game they made back in the late 80s and they were going to release it in the US back then, but didn't because of the SNES launch. That wasn't a game that was made recently. But, I agree with all those other games.

[@kirbyswarpstar123]

AmericanBuizel Everyone wanted Mother 3, not 1. I think we would be more accepting of Beginnings if we got it alongside Mother 3.

[@Shinstrikex]

Imagine if mario kart had no battle mode or a fucked up one... oh wait...

[@hadtomakeachannel]

imagine if mariokart *only* had a fucked-up battle mode...

[@ArchivistOmega]

That Last Bender movie by "La shalamanadindong". that cracked my sides. lol

[@sharsasuke01]

They better redo that fucking game as a proper Metroid on NX.

[@AlienGenotype]

Im was one of their core fans, you just explained it perfectly. I bought 5 freakin gamecubes, still have 4 of them. The past years my main platform has become the pc and i like it here, no way im buying the NX at launch, il might buy one in the long run for mario kart, where the hell is zelda and metroid freaking seriously...

[@fastbreak333]

+ΛLIΞИ GΞИOTYPΞ They're working on it.

[@WizPigTactics]

The biggest problem facing Nintendo is actually the older management and how they are not only out of touch with the consumers but also have a hard time dealing with criticism. They want to pander to families as if they are doing politics or something by making everything as simple or bland and easy as possible. If you look at the interviews every decision they admit was made by the younger teams resonated really well with the consumer base. Heck Splatoon in itself is a really good example of that. Although it's a small game it feels full of energy and identity which separates it from the rest of the IPs.

[@eunit08]

I totally agree Shokio. You could've saved a good 10 minutes of the video if you brought up the Mario Party series and we are living through the effects of it. and the half- done Mario tennis. I do remember seeing a floating paint bucket behind Mario in the paper Mario game. possibly a partner

[@TinyGuy97]

+eunit08 It's not a partner. Just a Kersti clone.

[@nathanlehto8780]

sigh... As much as I agree with everything your saying. at the end of the day, your talking to a brick wall. theirs an old saying you can only help someone if deep down they truly want to be helped.

[@NintendodudeX]

Shoke just one correction: Bill in the direct said Paper Mario Color Splat was an Action Adventure game. Paper Mario series as a whole should be a RPG series but with these recent entries it is turning into a different thing entirely. I don't understand why Nintendo takes their poorly received sequels and makes even more sequels out of those. ex.(Mario Party and Paper Mario).

[@Shokio]

+NintendodudeX I know he said that, and that's the problem. They straight turned the series into something it's not. It should be an "Adventure RPG"

[@NintendodudeX]

Would you still have problems with MP:FF if a proper Metroid Prime game was released on Wii U or NX? If that were the case would it be like Starfox Guard and Starfox Zero to you then? BTW thanks for the response. I'm a long time follower so getting replied to is cool.

[@Jahranimo_]

"This is not gonna be a rant video, not yelling or anything" 10:35 :)

[@Protoman00]

Potato Wedges! 9:51

[@LilDrFiz]

+Storytelling01 LOL

[@merritt2014]

It's like if they made a new Xenoblade but the story was crap, oh wait...

[@Bloodylaser]

+Bengals Fan It wasn't a hallway like FFXIII and bullshit DLC like XIII-2

[@whoever12341]

+Bengals Fan Better gameplay tough.

[@Ozzhiroth]

+Bengals Fan I prefer FF13 over what we got in Xenoblade X. I sold that crap. I don't care if anybody calls me a troll for this. I wanted the story in Xenoblade X, but it was missing for a majority of the experience.

[@coldskyclouds7188]

they could just remaster thousand year door and i'd be happy.. that game was a bona fide CLASSIC

[@chroprs]

"Is it the next step in the Star Fox Series?" The last time they tried to make a next step in the Star Fox Series, everyone hated it. I think they're trying to play it really safe with this game.

[@MrJumpman49]

Because they turned it into a stupid Zelda clone

[@saryakan]

I agree about Federation Force, not so much about the Paper Mario thing. The tone and atmosphere is incredibly important for the integrity of a series and thus any changes to that have to be approached with caution. It's basically why Other M was recieved so badly. For Paper Mario though they are changing core gameplay elements. This is - unlike a change in style and atmosphere - not inherently a bad thing. Imagine for example a Smash Bros without Items! ;P Sometimes innovation like that works out, sometimes it does not. I agree though, that they SHOULD learn from the failure of sticker star and I haven't seen enough about the new PM to judge if they did or not. If they make the same mistakes twice though you are right in calling them out.

[@AnimalTruk]

"Nintendo is destroying themselves with their own problems."

[@ridleysaria]

You're speaking the truth, my friend. The thing is, the fanboys are so emotionally invested in Nintendo that they can't allow themselves to see the company's faults. In my opinion that's what separates a fan from a fanboy. I love Nintendo but haven't been happy with them for the past ten years or so. I consider myself a fan rather than a fanboy because I expect better from them and don't make excuses for their mistakes.

[@Lakitu1134]

Uh, they went out of their way to clarify that Color Splash WASN'T an RPG, Bill called it an "Action/Adventure" game.

[@kajuanlockett8980]

That's a part of the problem. Not giving fans what they want.

[@hausler3]

I think of it like a dating scenario in some generic harem romance anime. Like Nintendo is the dumb protagonist that everyone can't help but love, but he's so indecisive and non-devoted that he can't choose between the girl that's loved him since childhood (real fans) and the girl way out of his league that's only dating him for her own gain and couldn't give two shits about him once she's gotten what she wants out of it (casuals). The Wii came and went, and now Nintendo doesn't have any value to casuals because they won't dive head first into mobile games, but for some reason Nintendo still thinks that if they just kept trying, they could capture lightning in a bottle all over again and get back together. The tablet controller, the gutting of basic features that don't appeal to casuals, and the reimaging of once beloved hardcore franchises into barebones casual garbage all point to this idea that Nintendo hasn't really gotten over losing the casual audience. They tried to market the Wii U as a console for both hardcores and casuals, but it's obvious to me at least that they're just using us fans as a fallback option while they keep trying to get casuals back for another round. And the most pathetic thing is that we want them back just as much as Nintendo wants casuals back, so we'll keep forgiving them for it because we'd rather pretend that Nintendo cares about us than risk losing them for being assertive.

[@TheMisterManGuy]

I agree with what you're saying, but I also think this is something Nintendo seems to be trying to fix with the NX. If you remember that big September restructure in 2015, it put younger staff in charge of the company, and merged divisions to make things faster and more streamlined. If you read Dan Adelman's (former NoA indie head) interview about Nintendo, he says that the biggest problem with Nintendo's management is how slow and segregated it feels. Basically, to get anything done at Nintendo, each division of the company involved, including the shareholders has to be on board with the plan. If even one person says no durring the process, then that idea is as good as dead. So the restructuring should in theory, make that less of a problem. Now this isn't going to happen overnight. Right now Nintnedo is just burning off whatever they have left in the pipeline for the Wii U and the 3DS while they prep for the NX, so we won't see the effects of these changes until at least a year or two into the NX's life.

[@TheLastLineLive]

some suggestions I have: 1) Metroid Federation Force, change some stuff, remove the Metroid stuff from it, make it a new IP, or maybe the it into a recent IP that could fit a multiplayer co-op thing but also has cutesy graphics, maybe do something like make it a Splatoon game. People would actually give it a chance and it would likely sell better and you wouldn't be pissing off hardcore Nintendo fans. 2) You guys need to appeal to the 3rd parties more. I think this is blatantly obvious. I get it is too late for the Wii U, but you need to make sure they're on board for NX and you also need to honestly improve it on the 3ds some, it has lacked in some segments.

[@paidenthusiast]

I am a Nintendo fanboy but I do agree with what Shoke is saying. I myself was very disappointed in Federation Force and Paper Mario: Color Smash as I was with Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash and Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival but it really seems like Nintendo was trying to turn those games into quick cash grabs for the Wii U because even they have given up on the system. Look at the original Wii for example when it was selling so well. We got a lot of AAA 1st party exclusives and even some noteworthy 3rd party exclusives and that was because Nintendo felt that it was highly viable for them to heavily invest in the console because of the massive install base. They can't keep giving up on themselves when things don't go their way because they will end up losing even more consumers trust if it continues. Nintendo has got to start being the Nintendo of old again when the NX arrives because if they don't the end could be very close and for one do not want to see that ever happen. I want them back on top of the gaming world but like Shoke said, they got to start focusing more on their core fanbase but at the same time focus on the general gamer too

[@Raidoton]

+paidenthusiast Mario Tennis Ultra Smash was disappointing, I agree. But Aminal Crossing Amiibo Festival? It was exactly what I was expecting. Don't understand why people got disappointed by it. They never claimed it would be the next main title.

[@AcroxShadow]

I completely understand the Federation Force backlash. They had ZERO reason to do it after Other M being such a disaster. They should of played it safe, and it's hurt their fans big time. But I will give the game a chance, and I do see it being a good game.

[@Vigilanteblade]

I'm one of those hardcore dudes that will certainly not buy NX at launch "Unless" they have a real controller.

[@PartyUpLive]

+Vigilanteblade This is one of the reasons why I did not get a Wii U.

[@galvinstanley3235]

Final Fantasy VII was actually supposed to go to the N64,but because Nintendo went with cartridges instead of discs,Squaresoft realized that the only way they could put the game on the N64 was to use a whole shoe box full of cartridges.Which would make the game cost at least $100.00 dollars or more.

[@davjags]

Been a while since a new vid from u bro. Good stuff with this vid and I love watchin u at DFW in PM ;) - SoFlo pm Marth

[@SeaSlug]

don't forget about mario party, they fuck ed up that series as well

[@yamcha111]

+SeaSlug oh boy did they

[@achaudhari101]

+SeaSlug Well that series was dying before 10.

[@Ultrasteel]

+Alex Chaudhari For me, it died at right when 8 came out.

[@TheRainbowSMASH]

8 was great, 9-10 are the exact same games.

[@yamcha111]

TheExclusiveMan except they had the veichle?

[@ScottCrippen]

Just bought a New 3DS yesterday. I'll probably buy 10-20 games at the most for it (picked it up after the announcement of DQ-VII). I did not support the WiiU and am on the fence about NX.

[@Hai_da]

Spot on with removing features. After what EA did to Battlefront I'm staying as far away as possible.

[@AlexMolina93]

Awesome video, Shoke! The problem is Nintendo is running out of ideas for their titles.

[@amestrisgone]

"FANTASTIC FOUR" THIS GUY WASTN SUPPOSED TO BE BLACK lmao

[@Shokio]

+Amestris Square LOL exactly.

[@TravelWright22]

+TheGameRage1 shes adopted

[@amestrisgone]

i still mind, dont care of their excuse

[@amestrisgone]

TheGameRage1 just like there was none to make him black, and because of that yes there was

[@nx4715]

The paper mario for the gamecube was the last paper mario game that was boss or the one for the wii.

[@1216Rockman]

+Shokio they are propably saving a Metroid Prime Game for the NX I honestly don't see the art style of Federation Force as a big deal since it's a spin-off game.

[@Donuts-cl7el]

+1216Rockman Yeah, but if it doesn't look or feel like a Metroid game than what's the point of including a part of that series. The Mario Partys, RPGs, Mario Kart games, and Captain Toad Treasure Tracker felt like Mario games even though they are spin-offs. Keep in mind, I'm not even a Metroid fan and from the very second I saw the trailer during the E3 live direct I felt it wasn't Metroid game.

[@PoweredByFlow]

+Donuts1998 Thats a good point actually, the Mario spinoffs still feel like Mario games but Federation Force doesn't do the same with Metroid. The artstyle is probably a result of being on the 3DS but they really went over their heads with this one. I mean the heads of the characters are bigger than their bodies...

[@Gorlokk666]

+1216Rockman I think Shokio mentioned around the time of release that one of his biggest problems with Federation Force is that yes, it's just a spinoff, but it's been like what, 6 years since the last mainline Metroid game? Not to mention the last one was Other M, so....

[@1216Rockman]

Donuts1998 It's a spin-off that uses concepts and enemies from the original game, doesn't really affect the overall canon and probably won't matter in the long run apart from a mention.

[@1216Rockman]

Gorlokk My question is do you want the mainline title on the last systems we have had so far? or would you rather wait for the Nintendo NX to play the next Metroid Prime game on.

[@thepxlgaming1033]

One of Nintendo's biggest enemies are their fan base.

[@Carsonj13]

+thepxlgaming How so?

[@kazoorion7993]

And he never said why. How fucking pathetic.

[@sarafandumah4572]

Nintendo is set in it's ways. For the most part they are not aiming at a certain demographic. You old fans they are not checking for YOU. It's all for the kids. Nintendo thinks nintendo is for kids.

[@charlesstone6252]

shamalamadingdong. for real though. you're speaking the truth. been saying this for a while. color splash is especially weird to me because literally every nintendo fan i know loudly and frequently verbalizes their dislike for sticker star online - very clearly discusses how they hate this gameplay and want the original/thousand year door style to come back. like - if they were in touch at all with the internet or their fans feedback, THEY SHOULD KNOW THIS. so - they are either not listening to what we are saying at all. OR they are hearing it, and doing the EXACT OPPOSITE. either way, it does not bode well...... for us or them.

[@noahschwinnen454]

that comment about the last airbender alonw was enough for me to put a like on this. Seriously tho awesome vid.

[@andrewchalmers505]

You're really cherry picking here with that Mario example. I can give you real examples that counter your point. What if I told you that in a Mario game, when you go jump onto a Goomba, it turns into a turn based battle? That ain't Mario. But guess what? That spin-off turned into an amazing series of Mario RPG's. A similar thing could be said with Metroid Pinball. No one got mad about that game. The main issue isn't to do with spin-off games using established IP. The main issue is the lack of core instalments of the franchise along with the spin-offs. No one would complain about Federation Force if we knew a core Metroid game was also in development. So focus on the real issue here. Federation Force isn't the problem, it's the lack of a core Metroid game. And let's be honest here, Nintendo is holding back right now for NX. So wait until the line up for NX is announced. If Metroid isn't there, then start complaining. And who knows, Federation Force could be atmospheric, etc. We haven't played the whole game.You're caught up on the chibi artstyle. Yes it sucks, but that's one small part of the game (not all models are chibi style, just your character). Who knows, the game could actually be good. My point is, play the game (not just a demo) before complaining so much.

[@YoMoonskii]

Its frustrating that i don't even know to make Nintendo aware of my concern for Paper Mario Meanwhile being barraged by white Knights telling me to go play the older games if i dont like these new ones. Nigga! There is only so many times you can play a game before you start craving for a sequel of the like

[@mrshmuga9]

Ya I hate the "well you still have older [insert entry of media]". It's like so what? Doesn't mean you want crappy new entries. All you can do is to go on Twiiter with @NintendoAmerica and #PaperMarioColorSplash and voice your grievances. Better than a forum because they're getting it directly. Down votes on the trailer would help, but they didn't even bother to publish it on their channel, as if to circumvent the dislikes. Although that didn't stop them from releasing the new Metroid trailer and disabling ratings so maybe they're just lazy and couldn't be bothered to make clips of each game shown.

[@mexicanzoidburg8072]

Haha i know you. "For salt" lmao

[@TheMike5125]

I think people going to spam Nintendo is Nintendo's problem comment so I am going one step beyond to say Nintendo's biggest problem is a mirror... also the fans!

[@TheMike5125]

Another thing I think is wrong with Nintendo as well as the fans is that they haven't realized they can't pull a Sony and just release a console and expect all to go well. Sony earned that by making there consoles easier to develop for. Nintendo needs to work harder than Sony to get third parties and expecting third parties to come back just cause Nintendo makes a good console is insane. It will help but not to that extent. Nintendo should also branch out into more genre's. I really think they can make a good fighting game. They also need to stop being third parent. The fact that Nintendo still dances on egg shells just to make sure most of their games are kid friendly ruins a lot of their games potential. Most kids by it anyway so why try so hard to make it even lower than T for teen!

[@alanwake4442]

I still can't believe there hasn't been a Metroid game on Wii U...

[@6dokpas]

If a bloody and gory Mario would come out, the people would probably say stuff such as "It's just a spin-off" or "we already got so many cartoony mario games, let them try something new so they can cater to a new audience " I am dead sure that some people would come up with stuff like this

[@mjc0961]

I dunno about that example of Metroid Federation Force... That complaint about the cartoony graphics just reminds me of when people were bitching about Wind Waker, but that game kicked ass and still looks great today. I thought the problem with FF was "lol bro-op shooter fuck everything that caused people to call games 'Metroidvanias'". Not graphics.

[@alphabloodhawk]

13:56 sums up the Star Wars prequels

[@GARU7x]

Another good example is Mario Tennis. They took away Power Shots, the different and unique courts, characters, and more, for no reason.

[@DarkMetalMario]

Exactly, just like Mario Party. They take away good things that made it good I stop at 7 lol

[@GARU7x]

GTMarlin SM4SH 7 was great. But I don't know what they are thinking with that bs of having everyone in a Car in the new ones lol

[@lord_duxzen]

Preach! I just don't understand why Nintendo has been making such bad business mistakes. Just insanity at this point.

[@kuribo04]

I have to say about Star Fox that, although the basic plot is the same, from interviews with Miyamoto I have gathered that the story will do new stuff. I mean stuff with substance. Like Andross not just simply being evil and General Pepper not being entirely good.

[@Dlf212]

It's probably just me but a few times in the video, my speakers seemed to crackle . . . .

[@sweetfeathery]

One thing I am surprised about that isn't getting much discussion are the SNES games for the New 3DS. My issue is that these games are not cross-buy for Wii U owners, and that the pixel perfect feature is not also being applied to the Wii U eshop versions.

[@TheLastLineLive]

not to mention how bad the emulation is on Wii U, the Wii and Wii mode on Wii U has much better emulation.

[@ssj6mysticboy]

Federation Force is the Wind Waker of the Metroid series. Deadass serious.

[@PATRIOT7ME]

+ssj6mysticboy Shut the fuck up

[@ssj6mysticboy]

PATRIOT7ME It is. Suck it up and deal with it.

[@101mrcrazyman]

Suck me up

[@PATRIOT7ME]

ssj6mysticboy yes i have to suck it up when what people really wanted was an actual legit Metroid you are a moron.

[@DanTheMan33088]

+ssj6mysticboy That's an insult to Wind Waker

[@Dante1282]

Well 3d World (or atleast 3d LAnd) was the try to fuse old School 2d mario and 3d mario together. They didnt fully sucssed in this through.

[@WizPigTactics]

Shokio I agree with you, although I feel some examples you gave were better than others but whatever. On the topic of Starfox I think they said something about how this is a reboot of the story. It's ok though because star fox command went in a really weird direction storywise .

[@mjc0961]

"Imagine a Mario Kart game with no items" ... Wait, so i can actually race based on skill rather than hoping I get lucky and the AI doesn't rape me with lightning bolts and blue shells? That sounds pretty fucking sweet, actually. Also, "Greedy Mario" is Wario, and I'd fucking love another one of those. But a real one like Wario Land 2 or 3, not that "run back to the start of every level lol" shit like Wario Land 4 and Shake It. So yeah, my hatred of item spam in Mario Kart aside, I absolutely get the point. Oh... You probably said gritty, not greedy. Whoops. Oh well, I still want a good Wario Land game.

[@227someguy]

16:07 People like Young Justice, Thundercats, Generator Rex, etc.? Let's cancel those shows. People like Gargoyles and Danny Phantom? Let's hire a new writer for both of those shows and fire the old one.

[@clarencejarvis6097]

its like sonic that dont ryn fast oh wait sonic boom lol

[@theblackhedgehog48]

I'm definitely one of those people that's kinda moved on, Shoke. Back in middle school and the first 2 years of high school I was kinda a Nintendrone, buying most of the Wii exclusives, believing Ninty was on top of everything, but once I got my PS3, things went down from there. I even got the NEW 3DS XL last year, and I've BARELY played it as much as I should because of the PS systems, plus their games seem way more fun and appealing to me. I mean I still wanna get a Wii U regardless when the NX comes out, but I'm highly unmotivated to actually play it, other than Smash sometimes. :(

[@HoneyMike]

I didn't think people had a problem with the art style of Federation Force, I mean I don't like the big head look but I was unhappy with Federation Force before we saw the character models. The problem is it's a multiplayer game which is not what Metroid is supposed to be.

[@timofcent1]

My main problem with modern Nintendo is their addiction to gimmicky gameplay. It seems like every game they release has to revolve around a gimmick the whole play through. Using Paper Mario as an example: the first two Paper Mario games had plenty of gimmicks, but every one of them worked towards improving the experience of the core gameplay. With a game like Sticker Star, the gimmick doesn't improve the core gameplay; it IS the core gameplay.

[@Jnmicter]

I don't think that the graphical style of Federation Force is really the main problem. It seems like Nintendo is afraid to make any substantial entries in their main IPs right now. We've had shitty spinoffs like AC Amiibo Party and Happy Home Designer, Triforce Heroes, and now Federation Force. We need something with substance, something that isn't a clear spin-off. If Metroid Prime 4 was in development in tandem with Federation Force, I would have absolutely no issue with it. But Metroid fans have been waiting 6 years for a new entry (9 for a GOOD new entry) and this is all we get.

[@Animonty]

+Jnmicter Man i've been waiting years for an F-Zero game! and i still am.

[@Jnmicter]

+Tra_ animation Same here man. Hoping that they make another kickass speed/thrash metal soundtrack and add online multiplayer and track editor, assuming that they ever revive the series

[@Animonty]

Hopefully...

[@Gorlokk666]

At the end of the Wii generation and the beginning of the 3DS and Wii U, I was a pretty hardcore Nintendo fanboy. In the past 6ish years though, there have been a lot of personal disappointments. I don't really like the direction the Fire Emblem series is going. Metroid's last game was trash, and 5 years later we get multiplayer Chibiroid. F-Zero is STILL neglected. Star Fox is FINALLY getting a game which, like you say Shokio, isn't really a big step forward for the series. Paper Mario is essentially ruined. Super PM was still good and should have stayed the only game that strayed from the traditional PM formula. SS was trash and Color Splash is on the same road. Animal Crossing fans got the middle finger with a fucking terrible game that even critics hated (Where as most of the other games I've mentioned fared well with reviews, they just disappoint me and some others). Mario and Zelda get 20 spinoffs and various games per year to the point where I just hardly care for them anymore. I'm sure there are a few other things too, but I don't want it to seem like I hate Nintendo or anything. They're still my favorite of the three, and Splatoon is one of the greatest games I've played in quite awhile. But it's true what you say Shokio, even Nintendo fans are losing interest in Nintendo. I really hope that Nintendo has a lot of nice surprises in store for the NX... They kind of need to honestly.

[@Lumen_571]

What's wrong with fire emblem?

[@AwesomeCauliflower68]

+You Who Chose Godhood it's becoming a Weaboo dating sim.

[@DarkMetalMario]

+You Who Chose Godhood censorship and waifu simulation ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@Lumen_571]

+GTMarlin SM4SH ...that makes no sense. Didn't the censorship work against the waifu bullshit? And as for the main problems...while I agree that the waifu bullshit is stupid, it is optional in the long run. The core gameplay is still there, and it's as glorious as ever. And the waifu bullshit can be used strategically. If you ship your avatar with a character with good growths, you're child could potentially become a god among men. So in the long run, the waifu stuff or whatever is just another layer of strategy. The game was never meant to be a simulator.

[@micman963]

+Gorlokk we got 3 mainline console Zeldas for gamecube and Wii, metroid got 4 over those console life spans but one was shit. Zelda doesn't really get many unique titles, we just got these remastered ports lately to make it seems like it. Really it's just padding cause Nintendo is delaying Zelda U as long as they can so they can cross-gen launch it, making the Wii U the only console without a unique-exclusive Zelda game. Which is a load of horse shit. I want 2 Zeldas and 2 Metroids per console, instead we are getting basically zero cause of cross gen. Mario can fuck off, just give me one 3D mario and I'm fine with that, cause the little bastard also gets Tennis,party,kart,paper spinoffs to compensate. We got like THREE 2d marios for the Wii U, buncha horseshit, New super mario bros U, super luigi bros, and mario maker. They all sold well but I'd prefer if we just had Mario Maker and that's it

[@omnihealXIII]

the friend who got me into Nintendo stooped buying their home consoles, also many of my friends (not Nintendo fans) that used to buy Nintendo consoles they now just buy a PS and they know they are set

[@ShadowFoxInfinite]

I fail to see how this is relevant- Nintendo has been losing fans since its inception. Thing is, they continue to gain NEW fans since its inception, and continue to make PROFIT doing so. Can't see how this is their "biggest problem" if it doesn't hurt their bottom line quarterly, annually, or even over entire console generations. Regarding Metroid, did you play the original NES game? There was nothing "high-end" about that game visually, and it was definitely cartoony.

[@ShadowFoxInfinite]

+Zachary Brocone Yeah, you're one of the people that clearly didn't understand what was said. And "credibility" over KZbin? LOL you can't be serious...

[@Shokio]

+Shadow Fox Infinite They are losing fans faster than they are gaining them. They are going negative. N64: 33 million Gamecube: 22 million Wii U: 13 million, will probably max out at 15-16, if that. You fail to see how this is relevant? Their hardcore fans are ALL they've had for the last 4 gens minus the Wii (casuals). If we leave, they'll literally have nothing left at that. They would pull out of the console business at that point.

[@NintenGOD773]

+Shadow Fox Infinite You're a special kind of stupid, the kind that had to be created in a lab, devoid of logic and reason. they are clearly have been losing fans for years to the point they posted their first losses in history even while gaining new fans they are losing them at a much faster rate.

[@ShadowFoxInfinite]

+Zachary Brocone Congratulations on confusing "stupidity" with the English language, as well as comprehension of it.

[@ShadowFoxInfinite]

Shokio "They are losing fans faster than they are gaining them. They are going negative." And what math are you using to support that? "N64: 33 million Gamecube: 22 million" 11 million users "lost", with ZERO confirmation of whether these were casual, or hardcore players lost. No way to determine. "Wii U: 13 million, will probably max out at 15-16, if that." An estimate by you, assuming Wii U will only sell 2 million additional units for the rest of its lifespan (even throughout the inevitable price drop before, or after its successor is launched). Wii on the other hand, almost doubled the sales of Nintendo's most popular platform in history (NES). "You fail to see how this is relevant? Their hardcore fans are ALL they've had for the last 4 gens" This is an assumption. You have zero evidence to support the idea that 100% of Nintendo's audience was hardcore dating back to the NES (4 generations). In fact, the opposite is more likely, as the NES was inarguably a pop culture monument for the late 80's- early 90's. "If we leave, they'll literally have nothing left at that. They would pull out of the console business at that point." 1. If that's the case, then Nintendo would post exponentially lower profits every console generation (since you seem to want to tie user base as direct ratio to commercial success). They have not. 2. Nintendo has repeatedly stated that they will leave the video game business altogether if they no longer had a viable business. There is no "pull out of the console business" as an option. I think I've pointed out what I've stated pretty clearly, and as logically as possible. Hopefully this clears up things.

[@BlockyBlatt]

The XP points come from your heart.

[@xninja83x67]

"Shamalama-ding-dong" LMFAO!

[@OriginalBloodAce]

Starfox Zero is the new starting point of Starfox. It's the new beginning for Starfox. It will be built onto from now on.

[@malcbear]

I liked sticker star, really funny game. I was hoping that the next paper mario game would be more like the super paper mario formula. There is a progression of strength though shoke it's in the stickers, but i'm not knocking u for wanting a level up system, i'd say that sticker star is better suited as an experiment, and then the next game (color splash) should have a nice balance of rpg elements (which they didn't do of course). As i think about it more though sticker star feels like monster hunter, as the strength doesn't lie within the level of your character but in the power of the items you have equipped to use in battle.

[@ShadoGamingChannel]

The only problem I have with Color Splash is that it looks like they're going to force you to use that gimmicky gamepad which almost makes me not want to get the game.

[@Raidoton]

+The One Named Shadow Well I guess you hate Super Mario Maker then...

[@ShadoGamingChannel]

I haven't played it but what I have is heard that you only need to use it if you creating a level other which I have no problem with that.

[@Raidoton]

The One Named Shadow And so far we've only seen the gamepad used in battle. And I think it makes perfect sense to use it when Cards are involved.

[@Blandrew]

I tend to give spin offs some slack. If Federation Force was the next iteration for the main series, then I'd be mad. And it's on the 3DS of all things with the Prime artstyle. I think it's fine for what it is. You really aren't going to hit that Gamecube graphics level on 3DS. Not saying I can't see why people wouldn't like it. As for Paper Mario(and any game announced at E3 2015 and forward) for Wii U/3DS, everything just felt like filler. Paper Mario, Mario Tennis, Amiibo Festival, Happy Home Designer, Mario Maker, Triforce Heroes, Federation Force, etc. ALL FILLER. These games seemed like to me like they just needed to release some titles that took little effort, before the NX released. Throw in the fact that all of these games were also spinoffs for their respective series(maybe not Mario Maker). If this keeps up when NX launches, then we'll have a problem. I believe they have much more respect to these franchises and giving the fans what they want when it comes to the main series of their games.

[@Shokio]

+Blandrew It's not a spinoff though. Nintendo said so themselves and it IS titled "Metroid Prime"

[@twotim5052]

+Shokio they actually said it's an expense of the universe of metroid I want to know you would be this mad if it looked like prime hunters?

[@boriqua7453]

+Shokio I keep sayin Metroid Prime aka dark samus (because thats what it is) is dead since the third game. why keep naming these games after it?

[@BlockyBlatt]

+Shokio So Metroid Prime Pinball wasn't a spinoff?

[@Blandrew]

Shokio My bad. But I feel like this will be looked at like the Persona 4 series. While Arena, Ultimax, and Q are canon. People really on focus on 4/Golden, and don't pay attention to the rest. I feel this will be the same way. They'll only focus on Samus' story. But Metroid "Prime" just seems like they threw the prime name under it since gameplay wise its closer to Prime than anything.

[@merritt2014]

That really puts things into perspective when you realize the Wii U has only sold 13 million units... Christ what a failure.

[@LunaticThinker]

"The biggest thing right now" Bad localisations? "ties in with the whole federation force." ... oh yeah, right, that wasn't just a nightmare. Oh yeah, paper mario... already made my peace with the death of the serie...