The Worst 3D Model I've Ever Seen

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Shonzo

Shonzo

Күн бұрын

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@thelionoob
@thelionoob 4 жыл бұрын
75 is also nearly how many vertices that model has.
@RedVRCC
@RedVRCC 3 жыл бұрын
Expensive model, $1 per vertex.
@StarForgers
@StarForgers 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedVRCC so I can sell my absolute garbage models that look terrible but have over 100k verts because I was trying to put details on its mesh and get rich in 10 sales?
@RedVRCC
@RedVRCC 2 жыл бұрын
@@StarForgers why not?
@TTG99942
@TTG99942 3 жыл бұрын
If Gordon Ramsey Was a 3D Modeler
@yes3714
@yes3714 Жыл бұрын
As a a hobbyist modeler, I have no idea how you even learn to create models with geometry like that, while also understanding basic rigging. HOW?!?!
@TyrantOfVirtue
@TyrantOfVirtue Жыл бұрын
99% chance the model was stolen from somewhere. And then it was editted a lot. The way the geometry looks like it was decimated really heavily. Decimate basically keeps the shape of the model but removes parts that dont change the shape. It's really great of making LOD's.
@WillShackAttack
@WillShackAttack 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this video would teach me how to make my own model instead of spend money on someone else to make one for me. Instead I was taught that some modelers are just terrible. But not Shonzo.
@PandoraParoru
@PandoraParoru 4 жыл бұрын
Let me give you a hint never commision anyone to make u a model all the parts that are mostly used are taken by deviantart and somewhat illegal I can recommend you one amazing modler that does everything by themself other than that you can look up videos on how to make a PMX model and upload those
@epiclegendaryking332
@epiclegendaryking332 4 жыл бұрын
Same here but I got something better 😂😂😂
@luisroman2144
@luisroman2144 4 жыл бұрын
MissesPitty 。 who’s the creator
@PandoraParoru
@PandoraParoru 4 жыл бұрын
Luis Roman Its diffrent creators, but mostly seen parts are the normal Tda based who fullily is made by TDA in other words the dude that modeled the kizuna ai model if you know her
@luisroman2144
@luisroman2144 4 жыл бұрын
MissesPitty 。 I’m new to vrchat so I do not I’m trying to find someone to make me a brand new custom avatar
@virtualvin9676
@virtualvin9676 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that he applied the decimate-collapse modifier... if not, I don't even know how you get that kind of topology.
@alex-qn5xp
@alex-qn5xp Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing he couldn't be bothered to retopologize the model.
@callmedisappointment
@callmedisappointment 2 жыл бұрын
As a baby blender user. I hope my models dont come out like this 😭
@fexgy5595
@fexgy5595 Жыл бұрын
Im baby too and... by far nope
@MrBaracu
@MrBaracu Жыл бұрын
Whatever baby means.
@NemisisRecords
@NemisisRecords Жыл бұрын
Its fine if you're learning or just hobbying... It's not fine when it's being sold as a product! The model "looks" good, just doesn't function properly!
@bilbo_gamers6417
@bilbo_gamers6417 5 жыл бұрын
easy fix just remove all animations and stand in A-pose
@Kolljak
@Kolljak 2 жыл бұрын
ive legit had the same 45$ from booth sent to me to fix weight paints between the legs on their pants because where they would clip they got missed by the weight painting. the life of an avatar repairman is a brutal one.
@AinrehteaDalnalirtu
@AinrehteaDalnalirtu 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, I'm just a rigger and when i'm usually open for commissions I do them for free. Can say my stuff is definitely not that awful. I can't even understand that mesh, Its obvious it wasn't manually decimated or refined.
@KayhoticGames
@KayhoticGames 5 жыл бұрын
Are you able to rig something for me? 👀
@Toxcinityy
@Toxcinityy 5 жыл бұрын
Do you still do that? If so add me on discord xSnowFlakey_#4274
@bluegu96
@bluegu96 5 жыл бұрын
Hello I am shit at making models was wandering if you could help me if you are down massage me on Twitter @mason123456984
@ChopStuffz
@ChopStuffz 4 жыл бұрын
Basically every avatar made out of MMD TDA parts is not more worth than 20$ since they are not originally made from scratch. Just don't waste too much of your money on unknown sellers ESPECIALLY on Mitch Murder who is known for just ripping avatars and selling them. Also always check for good preview pictures or videos and like shonzo said always check what other stuff they make.
@viiranen
@viiranen 3 жыл бұрын
the topology here makes me want to cry. like. no ...like did they like sculpt this, push the retopology button, put on some bones and call it a day???? ffs. yeah this is at most like a days worth of work and no effort
@Kreyadian
@Kreyadian 2 жыл бұрын
20$ says he just downloaded CATS and hit the decimate button to make it quest compatible
@Blackskies-b1z
@Blackskies-b1z Жыл бұрын
The fact that he was able to model the geometry that way in the first place. Very impressive
@cubyhielo9496
@cubyhielo9496 5 жыл бұрын
that's just a downloaded avatar from somewhere and decimated under 20k to fit into vrchat lmao
@TheUnknownAK
@TheUnknownAK 5 жыл бұрын
so many people do this, I saw someone in game bragging about an avatar they paid for and then a few weeks later I noticed the same thing had been on vrcmods for like months lmao
@ProtoPropski
@ProtoPropski 3 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who sold avatars on VRChat, they literally just Frankensteined different free base models together . They had weight painting, but you could clearly tell it was quickly done, and wasn't exactly worth the money they charged.
@Cielle_Slime
@Cielle_Slime 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment because I suspected the same. whats even worse is there are free pluggins to help with decimation. Here I am afraid to open a gumroad for my kitbashed avis because im scared that a sleeve having the smallest of weight painting issues will make people hate me xD
@ohwow.thatsashocker.1524
@ohwow.thatsashocker.1524 4 жыл бұрын
This is... actually disgusting. I understand that not all of us (including myself) don't keep our meshes SUUUPER clean... but what in the Sam Hell was that *$75* mess? I feel bad for the guy that paid for it. The amount of buyer's regret that dude felt must've been unbearable. I'm not the dude, nor do you need a thanks from a rando like me, but thank you for fixing it... with a permanent solution.
@Outrack
@Outrack Жыл бұрын
At the start I I felt like it was in poor taste to publicly complain about a model someone else had made, then at 1:25 I understood this is a crime against humanity.
@nikkytae
@nikkytae 2 жыл бұрын
I sell models at half the price, and still maintain a level of QA... whoever sold this... hell, you gotta try to actually get this bad.
@sheol5123
@sheol5123 5 жыл бұрын
I met someone, who spent 400$ for a custom avatar, that looked like literal shit.
@kunekai1680
@kunekai1680 4 жыл бұрын
75? Where are you looking everywhere i go is fucking 300-500+. Someone even said 2k for me
@therizinosaurs
@therizinosaurs 5 жыл бұрын
wait don’t people normally bend like that-
@DeathxStrike18
@DeathxStrike18 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like he destroyed the original in decimation, instead of being a "pro" and retepologising the mesh by disolving uneaded loops
@trhynosaur
@trhynosaur 2 жыл бұрын
Ow, my brain. I physically cringed seeing that. It must have taken actual effort to make a model with a mesh that bad. A workflow of just extruding rings would have been a lot easier to make and work with. How did this happen?
@intaze
@intaze 4 жыл бұрын
that "ALRIGHT" in the beginning scared the shit out of me
@LarryEdwards
@LarryEdwards 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'd just rather rig a model myself then pay someone to rig a model for me.
@randompasserby9817
@randompasserby9817 4 жыл бұрын
It's the topology is all triangles. I haven't even made a 3d model yet but I know for sure that's not what your supposed to do
@Zluken
@Zluken 4 жыл бұрын
Triangles are only bad if you are going to subdivide the mesh with a modifier afterwards. All game engines convert quads to triangles anyway as far as I know. It's more about the topology. If you don't have enough faces and edges in a loop, Tris or quads, it can't bend.
@Motscoud
@Motscoud 3 жыл бұрын
That topology was clearly made with Blender's decimate tool (which sucks)
@bukachell
@bukachell 3 жыл бұрын
One major problem is the N-gons, tris don't make a model bad for anything other than editing and subdivision. Quads on a model automatically convert to tris in game engines. Also, I'm late.
@nikkytae
@nikkytae 2 жыл бұрын
late, but the worst part is the n-gons, or faces with more than 4 sides. those are what gives problems like at the fingers.
@fabriciodmlima
@fabriciodmlima 4 жыл бұрын
as a 3d modeller that is just painful to watch
@pandoogaming9932
@pandoogaming9932 5 жыл бұрын
Ok now I know what not to do since I’m starting
@matchaia
@matchaia 2 жыл бұрын
ive only been modeling for a few months and... as soon as you went into edit mode I cringed. For 75 this is actually awful, it looks like they tried to decimate without any care for what it would do to the model's topography.
@Ikaros473
@Ikaros473 2 жыл бұрын
so basically, somebody put this through the decimate modifier without a care in the world
@CosmicCosma
@CosmicCosma 5 жыл бұрын
That’s not even bending. At that point it’s folding
@meijinsigma8913
@meijinsigma8913 2 жыл бұрын
As a 3d modeler I thank you for showing this I had to explain this to a Vtuber also glad I found your vid
@comgreed
@comgreed 6 жыл бұрын
That's why you ask Shonzo to do god's work shonzoSmug
@neatjoe2233
@neatjoe2233 5 жыл бұрын
Do you mind telling me more? I want to fix my avatar but I don't know how.
@peagames2002
@peagames2002 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it is simply better to try your best to do your own model or buy from creators who know what they were doing in first place. It's not easy though for most of VRchat community who don't even know jack shit about avatar creators. Especially hate avatar sellers who never even made anything from scratch, just bought and grabbed assets from others and slapped it together and puts it on own name. Not to mention how pricey they make those asset jungles. I'm trying to practice making base avatar and later on assets and perhaps a themed avatar someday. Seems with this lesson it is better to not be afraid to use that loop cut and knife. The lack of vertices will definitely cause problems when weight painting.
@letmedwight
@letmedwight 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe this sh!t happen if you try to reduce a model from 500k polygons to 20k... in The 500k polygon version, everything is fine. But if you reduce it, the polygons are gone from the important places like all the joints!
@ham6006
@ham6006 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly and it won’t be a surprise if that models was stolen, slightly modified and decimated to death
@gorkemvids4839
@gorkemvids4839 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely not 20k, it's 2k at best
@letmedwight
@letmedwight 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorkemvids4839 You would be surprised, how much poligons it can be while it is looking so less from outside...
@gorkemvids4839
@gorkemvids4839 2 жыл бұрын
@@letmedwight I do 3d modeling for 5 years, nothing surprises me. And your statement is false.
@letmedwight
@letmedwight 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorkemvids4839 What's wrong with saying that appearances can be deceiving? - By the way, I'm not referring specifically to this video, but mean that in general, the optical impression of the visible polygons, with the actual quantity, is often underestimated. e.g. I see a model that I would visually classify as 20k polygons, but has actually already reached 100k+... Especially if you take a look in VRChat to all this "very poor" ranked peoples. from outside it looks normal, but if you enable the avatar details, you fastly see that they have up to 800k+ poligons. (Without computed numbers that count you the real number of triangles. You will be often underestimate it.)
@jjju3
@jjju3 2 жыл бұрын
my *best guess* as to what happened here is that whoever made this ran it through an automatic remesher, *i dont know why they would do this.* but it is the only guess i have, that or it is partially or completely a stolen model, or a frankenstein of different model parts, and those parts were either imported incorrectly or also ran through a remesher. (the face has the telltale signs of like automatic triangle-ing game engines do, but the rest of this i have nothing.)
@sergiozuniga382
@sergiozuniga382 6 жыл бұрын
Mediocrity and sloth graphically showed with this model. That's why you don't do things just for the money. If you are not good at it you are gonna get exposed at some time because of the shit you make and the not worthy prizes.
@whinniethedank3267
@whinniethedank3267 2 ай бұрын
I watched this video about three years ago with no experience with models whatsoever. My reaction was probably along the lines of, 'Wow, this is indeed bad.' Now, stumbling back onto this video today with an understanding of modelling VRChat avatars, I can officially say this is the worst 3D model I've ever seen. No doubt about it. Holy moly. There is no understanding of topology what so ever 😭
@skyrixdreamer4802
@skyrixdreamer4802 5 жыл бұрын
That shit had pretty bad topology xD
@kxtbit
@kxtbit 2 жыл бұрын
i'm not even that good at using blender and even i'm cringing at the topology of this model
@xitaberry
@xitaberry 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a model made with dust3d 😂 I started learning with that because it’s easier to use but 2 days in i realized how terrible the meshes turned out and started learning on blender instead
@darky4555
@darky4555 3 жыл бұрын
so funny how he deletes the model in the end.
@gewpy9939
@gewpy9939 3 жыл бұрын
This video taught me 2 things. 1. Taught me that vertices matter 2. Don’t pay people, they do shit like this
@Shadowsphere1
@Shadowsphere1 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, looks like the entire model got thrown into an industrial woodchipper.
@jacplac97
@jacplac97 4 ай бұрын
Damn, it takes alot of effort to make someone as green in 3D modeling as myself, to shriek in horror upon seeing this topography
@TheUnknownAK
@TheUnknownAK 5 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand the logic of paying for avatars in the first place. I started the game not even being able to put a hat on my avatar because I didn't know you needed to drag the object onto the head bone in unity. From that I have worked up to making relatively complex animations, good quality avatars with props and a lot of custom things I have made from scratch. It's been about a year from then till now and I know to some people that seems like a long time, but I loved learning new things and impressing myself with what I was able to make and my skills progressively getting better. To me avatar creation is 50% of the game and fun itself, when people pay for an avatar or get others to make one for them I feel they miss a huge part of the experience. I went from having 0 experience and skills in modelling and avatar creation and now I am confident in my own abilities. Honestly you're gonna be way happier/satisfied making something yourself and knowing how many hours went into creating it than just paying someone and them sending you a unity project with an avatar that you just press upload on and had no part in its creation. Especially since regardless of how much you pay, it's extremely unlikely that it will be perfect and without flaws.
@MR_FIAT
@MR_FIAT 4 жыл бұрын
I am learning how to use blender just because of this.
@sonic26000
@sonic26000 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that's good for YOU, but for other people, time and skill are limited resources. This is coming from someone in the process of retopologizing their own 3D avatar right now.
@Cielle_Slime
@Cielle_Slime 2 жыл бұрын
There are always people with disposable income who really just want something that looks nice and slightly more unique than most public avis. sometimes people dont have the head for putting together something fashionable or just find doing this sort of thing incredibly frustrating todo.
@Jadecool312
@Jadecool312 2 жыл бұрын
That geometry flow makes me want to cry, a literal fucking nightmare 😭
@jamesklark6562
@jamesklark6562 5 жыл бұрын
Boy, I sure hope somebody got fired for that plunder
@Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse
@Astrawboy_NameAlreadyInUse 5 ай бұрын
It's literally made for VRChat, that's why the clothes have rigs like that.
@Elkeler.
@Elkeler. 2 жыл бұрын
stop yelling but now you are my favourite youtuber modeler youtuber moderl thanks!
@AngelboyVR
@AngelboyVR 5 жыл бұрын
i would carefully subdivide, partialy with the subdividing tool and partialy by hand with the knife. but yes, this model is uneditable. id suggest getting in contact with the actual model creator and ask for an undecimated version.
@hostile-elf
@hostile-elf 2 жыл бұрын
homeboy used the knife tool like a serial killer. i'm a beginner but even i know thats way too damn many vertices, i think deleting it and putting the poor thing out of its misery was the best solution lmao
@errata393
@errata393 5 жыл бұрын
It look's like this model was decimated, maybe that's why topology is so bad, becoase really, it's even hard to create so bad topology like that.
@Im_Ninooo
@Im_Ninooo 3 жыл бұрын
*"toPoLogY? WhAt'S tHaT?"*
@MelodyArtiez
@MelodyArtiez Жыл бұрын
rigging is too hard for me,plus i dont really wanna spend that many time making one so i just threw it into some auto rigger
@pokquat1462
@pokquat1462 Жыл бұрын
Me quickly writing down everything I should avoid doing
@Rejomei
@Rejomei 4 жыл бұрын
Those polygons... How... What... I don't even know how to duplicate what I'm looking at o_O How was he even able to rig this thing in the first place?!
@invisablemaster
@invisablemaster 2 жыл бұрын
I hope he got some money back.
@steakwolf9
@steakwolf9 3 жыл бұрын
That topology makes me want to barf. Absolutely terrible! It rlly hurt my soul to look at
@PandoraParoru
@PandoraParoru 5 жыл бұрын
As an mmder i can fix it easily within two minutes
@shrci2
@shrci2 4 жыл бұрын
How would you fix it?
@PandoraParoru
@PandoraParoru 4 жыл бұрын
shrci2 Models like those have a wheight saved on Pmxeditor you can safe that weight and paste it onto the clothing with it automaticly fixing it
@shrci2
@shrci2 4 жыл бұрын
@@PandoraParoru really new basically beginner trying to get into model making for vr chat so... a little simpler >.
@PandoraParoru
@PandoraParoru 4 жыл бұрын
shrci2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHikd6OVj7uam68
@thunderpaws1346
@thunderpaws1346 3 жыл бұрын
That topology 🤮
@PocketDeerBoy
@PocketDeerBoy Жыл бұрын
I've done low-poly stuff. The problem isn't even a lack of geometry, it's that the geometry is utter nonsense - how does this even happen???? It's like he took a perfectly fine model and crunched it with his teeth like a soda can and then put it back together. I can't imagine modelling like this in a way that would reasonably be lower effort than just using quads like a normal person
@SariphiSekai
@SariphiSekai 2 жыл бұрын
2:32 my wrist in real life
@BadgerBlunts
@BadgerBlunts Жыл бұрын
Oh my god I've been complaining about the exact same thing for months now!!!!!
@alwaysyouramanda
@alwaysyouramanda 3 жыл бұрын
I’m giving away my works for free until I’m actually impressed with my own work 😭😭😭
@SqualidsargeStudios
@SqualidsargeStudios 2 жыл бұрын
what a bloody monstrosity
@DiamondRedFox
@DiamondRedFox 2 жыл бұрын
okay so, im not experienced in 3d modeling whatsoever. This is better than anything i could make from scratch, but even my dumbass knows to at *least* put more loopcuts around joints. This model's wireframe looks like my models i make via sculpting for my work as a shitty reference, and then use decimate a million times over so it doesnt fry my computer. And my problem certainly isnt that this avatar is bad, it's that it's bad and 75$. if you're making shit avatars, and not even disclaiming that its shit, make it cheap
@NekoSamaIru
@NekoSamaIru 3 ай бұрын
The model looked okay until you showed the wireframe. This looks like a poor use of the decimate modifier. My body is so uncomfortable right now that I wanna retopologise the model!!!
@RiorXD
@RiorXD 2 жыл бұрын
Bro wtf that topology is literal garbage and for33,312 verts 17,295 faces at that like how. how did you manage to put that many faces into that. its astronomical thats higher then your average triple a (ingame) model
@celestia277
@celestia277 2 жыл бұрын
im getting aneurysm with that topography holy shit
@gustinggrimoire
@gustinggrimoire Жыл бұрын
I just started making my first model yesterday. How.... did they manage that with the mesh....?
@coopervr1975
@coopervr1975 2 жыл бұрын
he decimated that way to much
@heyseiletsplay8161
@heyseiletsplay8161 4 жыл бұрын
just had a similar experience where i paid 60$ for a avatar at it looks so bad i dont even want to use it..... :/
@ZaffreFennec
@ZaffreFennec 2 жыл бұрын
1:38 Woooooooowwwwww that's some kerfuckled topology. How do you even get to that point????
@Messi-rw9ng
@Messi-rw9ng 4 жыл бұрын
That mesh...wtf?
@Grayard
@Grayard 2 жыл бұрын
ppl commenting on other ppl stuff is interesting, learning from someone else mistakes is useful x)
@Karin029_
@Karin029_ 3 жыл бұрын
Ewww as soon as you showed the topology I cringed so hard
@RexusKing
@RexusKing 2 жыл бұрын
1:25 That gave me heart attack!!! Why was the topology like that!!!
@kamillatocha
@kamillatocha 6 жыл бұрын
when u auto decimate
@daton3630
@daton3630 2 жыл бұрын
what zero knowledge of topology does to a mfr
@azurefoxprince
@azurefoxprince Жыл бұрын
To fix a crappy model select all and delete XD
@Immortal_BP
@Immortal_BP 6 жыл бұрын
wow scammers, I have only been modeling in 3ds max for less than a year and this a yikes from me
@blubase06
@blubase06 2 жыл бұрын
Lmaoooooo all the vertices are in the face I'm dead
@NoRegs30
@NoRegs30 Жыл бұрын
thats a fucking Koikatsu model somebody got tricked
@lucyl697
@lucyl697 Жыл бұрын
And I thought I was bad at topology
@gazumcazum5250
@gazumcazum5250 4 жыл бұрын
We appreciate you’re contribution to the art community
@fluffiestmallard6484
@fluffiestmallard6484 5 жыл бұрын
It's probably like that to save other people from performance issues since it's a VRChat model but they just can't do it properly.
@rubyy.7374
@rubyy.7374 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the stuff I made at 13 holy crap.
@RedVRCC
@RedVRCC 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of times they just slap all sorts of ugly shaders and textures on already existing models and charge 50 bucks for it
@cineural
@cineural 2 жыл бұрын
75 Is not even cheap
@GrifChan
@GrifChan Жыл бұрын
I mean.. I've done worse wen I started learning blender ,_,
@TheExiledMeriler
@TheExiledMeriler 3 жыл бұрын
I think so.epne decimated model so hard that decides to ignore topology... Yikes
@ObsidionshadowX
@ObsidionshadowX 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how all this works, but damn it looks complicated, I hope there's already Dead Space and Bleach Models.. I just want to wear RIG Armor or look like Hollow Ichigo. 😅
@Moon-tz1iy
@Moon-tz1iy 4 жыл бұрын
75? Theres people charging literally $700 on twitter
@shantih19
@shantih19 4 жыл бұрын
I make vrchat avatars on fiverr and I cringed so hard at this. It's a beginner mistake and even if you were to just decimate stuff automatically, please PLEASE doublecheck your pose and at leat try to fix the weights. And the audacity of asking 75$ for this hot garbage. I do better for way less.
@drewknight91
@drewknight91 Жыл бұрын
I recently started modeling in 3d as a hobby, I would never dream of accepting a paid commission, at most I do some models for friends. Then I don't really understand the meaning of this model, I don't understand if it's a joke or just the guy doesn't know the basics of 3d modeling
@kavik5467
@kavik5467 2 жыл бұрын
WTF WITH THAT TOPOLOGY?!
@martymcfly9984
@martymcfly9984 2 жыл бұрын
nice topology LOL
@paandacat1007
@paandacat1007 4 жыл бұрын
He did so well.....
@joeswanson6637
@joeswanson6637 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what that program is or what any of that means but that does not bend right
@AngieChii
@AngieChii 2 жыл бұрын
this is what my 3D models be looking like :'/
@simonthedigger99
@simonthedigger99 2 жыл бұрын
i sell mine for 10 dollars and i do proper retopology i should ask for more but im not getting any sales 😢
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