ILFORD ORTHO PLUS & FUJI ACROS II | SIDE BY SIDE

[@kamaksi24]

I’m not sure where else to put this, but you could be the perfect platform to spread this around. I filled out the questionnaire and it’s pretty simple and straight forward. I thought if film companies start heating more from people like us, maybe they will continue to add stuff to their list of products available. www.thephoblographer.com/2019/12/18/ilford-photo-is-asking-for-input-on-darkroom-printing-habits/

[@MakersTeleMark]

The weather got shitty, it was windy, I got hungry, so hit the pub for some lunch and a beer. D76, why not! ;?) Like me waterfall? I don't think I stopped laughing the entire time. Great vid.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Ha Ha. That Waterfall was best I could find!

[@CertainExposures]

7:10 I’m into cinematography and at one point a book I was reading about the early days explained how closeups on ortho film were difficult for cinematographers and makeup artists because blonde hair would look too dark and blue eyes would almost disappear. It’s kind of funny how we can now appreciate the look since we have options. Back then people were scrambling to get around that. Red lipstick also used to be avoided because of the lack of red sensitivity (resulted in black lips as you showed). I liked your ortho portraits for the record. I’m considering some myself. Just funny how perspective changes or can differ between creators.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Yeas I read about that. I would imagine the Ortho emulsion today has better science behind it making it more useable for photography. Also portrait photographers had a nightmare with it many moons ago when using Tungsten Lights.

[@DarkAngelEU]

I once saw a make-up sheet where there were alot of greens and powders used for hair. If only there were some set photographers with color film to document how horrible these movie stars would look on set lmao

[@brett1354]

Yep, I totally agree. The ortho portraits looked wonderful. Very striking eyes. Good thing to know, thanks.

[@BlackHawk2029]

The way the Ortho renders reds is gorgeous. Your kiddo looks lovely on it. The seascapes are quite nice on Ortho as well. Acros seems to hold more detail in the architecture though. Both very nice films. A nice comparison. Thank you!

[@theoldfilmbloke]

YO !! Takes me back to 1951 when I started Photography aged 14 ( Ha Ha -- do the MATHS -- ) I used to cycle 4 miles to a Wonderful Emporium in the Lea Bridge Road Leytonstone called 'Marston & Heards' where the Ancient Proprietor sold all kinds of Ex WWII Government Surplus Films, Papers and Chemicals and would blow the Dust off a packet before handing it over. I bought ORTHO FILM outdated at 6 Old Pence 2.5 New Pence a roll for my Mum's 120 Kodak Brownie Hawkeye Box on which I started and would 'black out' the Bathroom with an old blanket then wrap RED PAPER around a 40 W bulb and 'See-Saw' the 120 film through a dish of HomeMade Film Developer == The Dish I used to hatch Frog Spawn in and my Mum would make Tapioca Pudding in -- luckily NOT at the SAME TIME. I thought the greyish smudges on the film I produced were the Bees-Knees !

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Frog spawn 😂😂 you make us all laugh with your stories Peter. Love hearing them.

[@johnnytremp]

6:01 The reason the ortho film had more shadow detail is because shadows are made up of mostly reflected blue light from the sky, and ortho film is blue sensitive.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

That's interesting. Thanks!

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

That really does not make sense, as across is just as blue sensitive.. the ortho just lacks red sensitivity. These comparisons are usually pointless, as its mostly about how and what you use to scan your film. Its simply and issue of correct exposure, development & a lot of it is about the scanning/repro process. I assume he is using a digital camera, and you probably need to develop your negs to fit that process.

[@johnnytremp]

@@Nobody-Nowhere Acros is not just as blue sensitive. Fuji calls it orthopanchromatic, which is somewhere between orthochromatic and panchromatic. So the ortho film is slightly more blue and green sensitive, while being slightly less red sensitive than the Acros.

[@marco69890]

I have 1 roll of Ortho in the fridge to try it soon. I really like the contrast with detail and sharpness of that film on your samples. I'm probably gonna try to shoot it for street or if I'm lucky in the Netherlands some snow landscape this winter. Thanks for your educational video. 👍

[@ThatGamingGuyfromthe70s]

The Ortho portraits were stunning, like you said they really pop. I love how the shadow detail is retained despite the seemingly high contrast.

[@1free2rec12]

Thanks again for this comparison, ortho seems to be for especific situations in landscape and portrait.

[@nostalgix8430]

Very helpful video. Thank you for the comparision. I am not quite sure if I have an overall favorite. They both seem to have their own kind of charme to me. Just a quick question: Do you have a video where you show how you achieve the dark frames on those 10x10 portraits? I have an idea, but maybe it's much easier?

[@RetiOrchid58]

Nice portraits. Great to see this comparison. Thanks! If I'm not mistaken, ortho is (or certainly used to be) more sensitive to greens and blues, so with more blue wavelengths in shadow, more shadow detail.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Yes that's what I'm learning Philip. Thanks for the contribution.

[@demcomp]

Just recently picked up the ORTHO... Be nice to play with a blue/green sensitive film that is a bit faster than ISO4!

[@as616]

I did like the look of the Ortho. Which is good as I have some on order; it should be here tomorrow. Thanks for trying them out and sharing the results.

[@pritush]

I just shot some ortho portraits and I’d say I’m loving it . Thanks you covered a lot in this one

[@stevek8829]

Thank you for the informative comparison. The Ortho portrait stood out and helped her shine. The fire hydrant stood out so differently I would swear you used a filter.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Fire Hydrant? I didn't even notice one. You mean the Post Box?

[@tedsmith_photography]

Super useful. As I was watching the results, I was surprised to see the Ortho results over the Acros II. They seemed a lot sharper and detailed, which surprised me. Then I saw you thought the same in your conclusions. Super interesting, as I was not sure about Ortho for generic work with its whole "red light thing". But now I am not so sure! Before this I was of the view that Acros could not be beat. Not so sure now. I wonder if the lens\camera had a big impact. Be good to do similar with say 2 x OM20 in manual mode with 50mm 1.8's on both. Great work. Thanks as always

[@Floretology]

Great video! It's nice to have a film KZbin video maker who isn't an "influencer." (Also glad you scrolled my Instagram account in there as well.)

[@RodUSMC75]

When you shoot your portraits with the orthodox and a lot of blues and greens they will come out white and light shades of grey and look better than reds and oranges which turn black dark grey. Plus they look really cool.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

That explains the eyes...

[@thedondeluxe6941]

Nice one! Just tested my first roll of Ortho, and I just love the results. Did some nature shots in the dark with long exposures, and it handled that beautifully. So much detail in the shadows, like you mentioned. Try shooting some trees/stone/textured stuff, you'll be amazed. Gonna try some portraits next, yous looked great!

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Cheers. You'll love the portrait look!

[@VileStorms]

Ive never heard of ortho film until i saw your two videos, thank you!!

[@Powerwashincrocs]

I like how the ortho renders reds. I gotta try some soon

[@nanddis]

Hi! I wonder if you’re gonna test the new Ilford MGRC V. It has been said that it’s like a FB. I enjoy all your test a lot!!

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

I have some here. I've not put it next to another paper yet. I'll have a think on that one. Thanks for the idea

[@justindavisphotography]

Would like to see the two film results in the field side by side with time to look the over for differences. It’s harder one after the other. That said, good video, thanks for sharing your experiences 👍

[@kieranpicken3696]

Love those Ortho portraits, very different look from conventional mono film and your daughter's lipstick really pops!

[@Socrates...]

If you don’t make another video before then, I hope you have a wonderful Christmas and new year. Thanks for the great content and I am sure it will be even better in 2020 !

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Thanks Socrates. A couple more intended before XMAS

[@allanternent8862]

Great as usually Roger. U make it look easy in the dark room. I've just got myself a enlarger and the chemicals had a try and came out dark

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Email me if you need a hand

[@AlexandreCamargoPontes]

Thanks for sharing this nice work.

[@katharinemovertonphotographer]

Like the moves. Can not wait to try out some Ortho and Acros 2. Hope you and your family have a good Christmas. Will sort out getting the other light to you after Christmas

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Thanks Katherine. x

[@key2adventure]

Great shots :-) Your daughter looks gorgeous on the ortho film, I also like the almost black post box

[@DaveWilkinson5]

Great comparison between the two films, I particularly like the Ortho. A beautiful portrait of your daughter, good brownie points with the mother in law. 👍

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Ha ha. Cheers Dave

[@ianhand5006]

Nice comparison! Do you use your OM20 in AV mode? The exposure metering is more accurate when you do. As a side note, I developed a roll of Fomapan 400 in Ilfotec DD-X today, and it actually came out really well! It’s the best developer I’ve used for years. 1:9 for 12 minutes, gave me nice negs!

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

No I used it in Manual mode Ian. I do normally use it in AV mode but as I had the Chinon, which is all manual, I shot the OM20 the same. My OM20 I have to +1 exposure compensate to meter as the meter is out by a stop!

[@ianhand5006]

Shoot Film Like a Boss Please bear in mind that the OM20 has two metering systems, and that the indication in the viewfinder is simply there to give you a rough idea of the shutter speed.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

@@ianhand5006 I didn't know that. Why does it have two metering systems?

[@ianhand5006]

Shoot Film Like a Boss There are two CDS cells attached to the prism, for manual exposure and for the exposure indicator in the viewfinder. There is a sensor at the bottom of the mirror box, which is used during exposure, to control the second shutter curtain. At speeds of 1/60th it uses the pattern on the shutter curtain. The idea is to give you the correct exposure at the exact time that the film is being exposed. The same sensor is used for TTL flash metering. “The Photographer’s Bag” explains this in his OM2 video. Most nearly all SLRs with AV mode, have a step less shutter which can fire at any speed, e.g. 1/142 of a second, or 1/856th etc.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

@@ianhand5006 thanks for your explanation. Yes I remember seeing the chequered pattern on the curtain. I think the OM10 a chequered badge on the front. I'll check Grahams video on it. Cheers.

[@tirsogonzalez199]

One question.what kind of paper do you use to make wet prints.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Multigrade resin. Usually Ilford pearl or Kentmere lustre.

[@danadrian2752]

I refuse to use anything other than Ortho in my pre war folder :D Seems like you’re already on the right track with Ortho, pictures are gorgeous and you make sure there is something red in the frame :) My favorite is the “blown out” one funnily enough. I just love the Blacks on Ilford films.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

I noticed some of the brick work on that water fall shot was also darker.

[@michaelgermundson8166]

Great video, great results.

[@demcomp]

Shadow detail on the ORTHO vs ACROS probably has a lot to do with its spectral sensitivity. ACROS has a lower fregquency spectral response than ORTHO, while also having a much higher frequency spectral sensitivity than ORTHO, which means it'll absorb more light over all... probably why lack of shadow detail? too much sensitivity in the blue? But ORTHO seems to have a much more flattering skin tone than ACROS (which I never thought I'd be saying)... I think ACROS is one of the best B&W portrait films, but that ORTHO is splendid.. I'd like to see it in artificial light to see how it works, but in natural light it's fantastic! Perhaps taking photos of people of a darker complexion might show the real difference in the films for portraits, which I believe someone of African descent will have a much darker appearance on the ORTHO. Might be really interesting!

[@FerEste]

You’re the first person I’ve seen that has the same working Chinon camera as me! Mine is silver though. Cheers!

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

I love it!

[@the_perfect-imperfect]

Thank you for doing this review, very helpful. I’ve been very curious about ortho, will give it a go now!

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@markhou]

Good video sir! Which b&w film would you recommend for pure landscape stuff? I mostly use rodinal to develop (stand)

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Depends on how you want it to look. Nice and smooth and grain free? Ilford panf50 developed in Perceptol. An Edgy look? HP5 and id11, D76 or even more so Rodinal. I guess it's trying formulas until you get the results you like.

[@robertlancastle7819]

Another good video, I really like the Ortho look fortto shooting a couple of rolls

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Cheers Rob.

[@DeRose05]

the ortho effect on her eyes is really cool

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Yes, Jessica said that too.

[@BriteFrog]

D76, why not? lol...Great video, thanks for the comparison.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Thanks for watching Timothy.

[@FaustoSaporito]

ortho forever! :) it's beautiful!

[@lensman5762]

A pan chromatic film is ( supposedly ) sensitive to all wave lengths of the visible spectrum but in practice it is actually least sensitive to blue light. An Orthochromatic film is ( supposedly again ) properly sensitive to a broader spectrum of the blue light. Blue light is what illuminates objects that are in the ' shadow ', that is why if you use a strong yellow filter the shadows tend to loose detail and texture and an impression of greater contrast is achieved. You would expect an Ortho film to show better detail in the shadows than a Pan film but you loose sensitivity to red light which it renders quite dark.

[@tomislavmiletic_]

Acros for landscape, Ortho for portraits? In my opinion at least...

[@rotfai45mm]

I just can't wait for the new Acros II . I had great results with the old Acros developed in 1+50 Rodinal for 12 minutes . I had very good shadow details with that Acros . T-max 100 and Delta 100 developed in 1+50 Rodinal are far behind the old Acros in grain and tonal scale , T-max is much to soft and Delta 100 a bit to hard with a "modest" shadow detail . But this all depent on the developer you use . I just hope that Acros II works just as good the old Acros in Rodinal , than it is bey bey to the films in my fridge and make somebody happy with them for free ......

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

I've heard good reviews on acros and Rodinal. I've only ever really used rodinal for stand and cost effectiveness. And I was impressed when I did Dev acros 1:50 in Rodinal. One of my vids show that. Why give your old fridge stock away? Shoot it 😁. Thanks for the comment 👍

[@rotfai45mm]

@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I'am Dutch so at the time I give away my old fridge stock away it won't be Much ...... Some practical experiance with other film is allways good if your film is not made anymore . But I will not change my darkroom paper Fomabrom Variant 111 . It comes very close to AGFA and I'am from the AGFA printing school off deep black and bright white and off course tender grey if needed .

[@TheSchnauzie]

Great compagnon.

[@grahamrichards8531]

Plan to shoot some Ortho in the bush in 120. Can I say your daughter is very beautiful. Merry Christmas from New Zealand.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Thanks Graham.

[@BriteFrog]

I think maybe the eyes in your portrait stood out better has to do with Ortho being "blue-sensitive", and it appears her eyes are a bluish, or bluish-grey.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Yes, I like how it makes the eyes

[@gabrielsilvaz4199]

I really liked the way acros looked it seem to be more flattering. The ortho film to me seemed a little offputting for some reason they were both lovely pictures. I just liked the acros better. It’s not because I have a crap ton of it that I like acros more its just opinion.

[@IainHC1]

How about trying some night photography with the Ortho?....... Just to see how it works. Crackin vid as usual m8 :-)

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Plenty of opportunity for that at the moment Iain! It's dark at 16:30! I never know where to go for that to be honest. Not much lit up here at night. Need inspiration!

[@tomw0815]

Watch out. Ortho 80 is only rated 40 at tungsten light (80 only in daylight) and additionally you have to take reciprocity failure into account. That makes really long exposure times at night.

[@yorkieinnz4648]

👍Great stuff, thanks.

[@GreyGhost-r4z]

I love your Southern Accent 🙌

[@gman922]

No filters sir that ortho looks good im just shooting lomo KINO.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Any good? How do you play it back?

[@gman922]

@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss I have to send it away to California I give them instructions on the processing and hope for the best.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

@@gman922 love to see the result.

[@gman922]

@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss how can I send you some photos

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

@@gman922 email me [e-mail]

[@GreyGhost-r4z]

You make me want to pull out my enlarger

[@alasdairdougall7868]

For a moment there, I thought you were going to say you have dabbling in the occult, but then I realised you said you have been dabbling in the orthochromatic

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Ha ha nooooo

[@igaluitchannel6644]

Yousuf Karsh used ortho film for his portraits.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Interesting! It does give a unique look.

[@giannidigirolamo8868]

Probably the real speed of the ortho is much closer to 80 than the one of the Afros is close to 100. That’s why you have more shadow details. Try to expose Fuji acros at 50 and see what happens ;) great video as always

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

Cheers Gianni,

[@joshuarhea1648]

Man. I’d rate acros at 80.

[@ShootFilmLikeaBoss]

I was going to to keep metering on both cameras the same. Thanks for that.

[@joshuarhea1648]

I have shot a bunch of the old acros. For me and how I developed it. Overexposure always worked best for me. I’ve enjoyed your content. Keep up the good work!

[@Zetaphotography]

looks the same