Shooting and developing Vision3 200T

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[@aag24]

A nice effect when using tungsten film is putting the gel on the flash and then taking portraits. Only the "victim" will come out the correct colour and the background will have the bluish tint. It's very nice.

[@desotaku5202]

Thanks for the idea, I'll definitely try that

[@Mister_Milchreis]

My favorite channel on KZbin. I really love it and I'm always excited what comes up the next week. Thanks to YOU Eduardo for all the work!

[@edpavez]

oh, man. thanks a lot, Stefan. I'm really glad you like the videos.

[@FinersDiner]

I really enjoyed the combination of using old movie film and the xpan's panoramic capability. it gives off a cinematic feel... and I love movies :) I think I'll try this once I get more acquainted to developing my own film

[@samlbert3380]

FinersDiner i was about to write the same comment !!! every pictures look like a frame of a movie 👌

[@itslucasyap]

I'm on slow internet, I was waiting for the results and it was worth the wait! I'm amazed by the results.

[@FlorianCueni]

This is fucking amazing and since you used the Xpan it looks like stills out of a movie! Love it!

[@anmlcoIIective]

This is a really terrific channel! Your tone and demeanor, your editing style, and your photos--everything is extremely pleasant; you're doing a great job with this.

[@ambassador269]

The colours look fantastic, really impressed with the results you got.

[@PaC1116]

¡Increíble! Me encantan tus vídeos Eduardo, y éste es especialmente fascinante: la presentación, el desarrollo del experimento, la incertidumbre... y finalmente unos resultados maravillosos. ¡Sigue alentando a tanta gente, que como tú y yo, les emocione el mundo analógico! :D

[@akbarassaran7736]

Very good educational video. One of my favorite channel mostly because you use film cameras, and in my humble opinion there is nothing boring about analog photography! bdw it doesnt matter how careful you are brother but never hold your drinks over the keyboard, it can easily kill your laptop! Happen to me once with cola and cost me alot. Thanks buddy for all great videos!

[@ShootStreetTV]

Wow. these are incredible! the film photos turned out amazing!

[@DanBullmanPhotography]

This is so cool! I shot some Kodak Vison 3 250D film that was handrolled by the Film Photography Project. I loved the results! Cool to see you getting into color film, and movie film nonetheless!

[@edpavez]

thanks, Dan! I'm glad you liked it!

[@DanielMontenegro140982]

I really like the tones without the filter. I'll definitely try this eventually. Great video, thanks for sharing! =)

[@RedStarRogue]

Just developed some bulkloaded Fuji 500T myself for the first time a few days ago. Interesting results.

[@lancmac]

Back in the 80's I used to purchase out dated movie film in 35mm canisters. I could shoot it from 100asa to 3200asa. All I had to do it tell the lab what the asa was that I was shooting.. Made good prints.. Cheaper than Kodacolor film.

[@Southwarklibdems]

Dude - I am super impressed with the results. I thought you would be scratching the hell out of the film when you were removing the remjet with your fingers

[@edpavez]

I quite like the results. The tones have a lot of personality!

[@nw10photography]

really like the outcomes both with and without the filter

[@Seifenschaum]

Great video, Eduardo! Really enjoyed your honest take on the movie-film-for-fotos. Keep it up

[@Tadeas_Plachy]

You make processing C-41 at home look almost easy! :D

[@adiw.852]

I really like the warm, almost-3D look of the film!

[@JohnBarrow1961]

It looks like the filter did a nice job of balancing the blue casting. I think the pictures turned out great.

[@TheZacman2]

Thanks you so much for actually explaining how to get the 400 movie camera roll into the bulk loader!

[@finalfox33]

keep shooting films, huge fan of you!

[@skyblue021]

Great effort, we do appreciate it. You are doing an amazing job! Regards from New York

[@kevinjohnsrud7676]

Great video. I have been shooting with Vision3 for a few months now (250D and 500T) also with the XPAN and a few other cameras and it has produced some stunning results. I was hesitant to invest in the bulk stock at first and found out that the guys over at filmphotographyproject.com sell pre-rolled Vision3 films so I tried a few rolls before jumping in and buying a few hundred feet of it. I highly suggest that route for anyone on the fence about it. Keep the great content coming.

[@kevinjohnsrud7676]

Oh just remembered as well Whatevergraphy.com sells bulk loaded 120 rolls with trimmed down 70mm Vision3 stock in case you subscribe to the go big or go home philosophy.

[@edpavez]

oh my, 120 bulk loaded from 500T. why? why did you do this to me?

[@kevinjohnsrud7676]

Because money is overrated and film will always love you.

[@edpavez]

Kevin Johnsrud film is love. film is life.

[@SeniorSoftwareVlogger]

I wanna poster with this quote! :)

[@babarfyi]

Very impressive results

[@AnythingONandOFF]

Great episode, excited to start my own c41 development soon, will need to add movie film to my list now also.

[@edpavez]

You will love it. At least, I'm really happy with the results!

[@Kilometer000]

Fantastic video man! I've always wondered how people go about shooting movie film. This may have just intrigued me enough to start some c41 developing and buy some movie film.

[@guillermolastra]

Excelente !!! , me encantaron los tonos de tus fotos!!!! gracias por compartir!!!

[@maandalen]

Great video as always, and cool results.

[@krzysztofzwolinski956]

Love Tiger's big cup for tea 💕

[@stairwayjumping]

Result look stunning

[@narason9940]

Oh, man! You always make me inspired.

[@mrca2004]

The first time I watched the movie Girl with a Pearl Earring, when I got to the scene where she is standing next to the studio window holding it open with her hand, I had to stop it and look close on my big screen. The highlights had a warmth to them, the shadows an ever so subtle coolness. I spent the next month in my studio trying to reproduce that with yellow and blue gels, blue reflectors, to no avail so gave up. Recently, when I got to the scene with Sharon Tate sitting on her bed in Once upon a time in hollywood, the same thing happened, the skin tones on her leg were mind blowing. And that wouldn't be make up. The hbo series The Pacific, the scene where the father determines his son doesn't have a heart murmur and can go off to war, again mind blowing skin tones. Every one vision 3. I just picked up a 35 mm camera that will shoot all my modern lenses and has 8 frames per second and 1/8000 so I can shoot this film like I was shooting digital. I will try the filter. 6 years after you put this out, there is a kit for developing this film that more easily addresses the remjet and is specifically for his type of film.

[@niceup1177]

alot of times i read about this and was intrigued. thanks alot for the testing and the very informative and well made video! ill probably be sticking to the odd roll of cinestill here and there. cheers!

Got my tea, some toasted bread with cheese and blackcurrant marmalade and a video from Ed. What more could I ask from this fine evening? By the way, the results left me pleasantly surprised. That film coupled with the xpan looks amazing. Also, now I really want to develop some more film!

[@cormackla]

Fantastic video, inspiring as ever

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

1:35 It is also for reducing the halation effect

[@Dvgnte]

Increíbles los colores y la gamma.... Quiero!!! 👍

[@mcblahflooper94]

Would really love if in the description you include all the chemicals and hardware you used.

[@SeanDelahuntDSLaRt]

Remjet is there to stop light that has passed through the films layers from reflecting back and making a glowing look you would see if you would remove the remjet before shooting.

[@overlycranked8674]

What do you mean by saying, " you are not a good Vlogger " !? You are a wonderful Vlogger I'm glad I found your channel.

[@DarksideoftheMoon79]

carbon remjet can be rubbed off prior to stabiliser in warm bath it doesn't mess and dirty your developer up either like you would imagine no need for the removal chemicals and soda imo. This is only the 4th c-41 film I have developed at home in a brutish guestimated temp way and it turned out fine once again I'm beginning to think the -+0.5c preciseness of temperature people are so adamant about is nonsense it seems more like -+5c for digital scan purposes anyway. I would probably be precise if I were chemical printing maybe. There is one thing I would suggest and that is gloves and a respirator when handling photographic chemicals most are proven highly carcinogenic with skin contact and inhalation can really give you bad sinus headaches and sore eyes. An old army s10 respirator is perfect for the job as it has a brilliant filter and full face coverage and cost peanuts compared to other respirators I would put more faith in it too don't be put off by sealed expired filter cannisters they will last 50+ years and in all likelihood you'll never need to replace it once attached to the mask however your beard could pose a problem.

[@Asgaia]

The bluish shadow and yellow lights are mostly due to your cross processing and that also on 30°C. When you develop ECN-2 there is no such color cast. I tried C41@100°F and and RA-4 (4+1)@41.1°C. But I think that ECN-2 give optimal results. C41 is desaturated, RA4 gives great skin tones, but tends to be magentaish in the blues.

[@edpavez]

Nah. It had nothing to do with development of cross processing. It was the scanner. Check out my Kodak Vision3 500T review.

[@MaxLamdin]

the remjet can be removed just by soaking the developed film in warm water for gently rubbing the coating off with your hands, just saves you buying remjet remover

[@chrismofer]

remjet will contaminate your developer quickly. which means you need to remove it before developing. which means you cannot take the film out to rub the coating off.

[@NicosPhotographyShow]

Nice video Ed! Beware of the C-41 stabilizer as it looks harmless but is cancerous! Keep the gloves on... ;)

[@edpavez]

yikes. thanks for the advice! gloves on next time, then!

[@ericdere]

Should you flush it down the bathtub then? Isn't it hazardous waste which you should dispose of separately through your council for instance?

[@edpavez]

I'm flushing water down the bathtub, not the stabilizer. I would go bank bankrupt if I were flushing C-41 chemicals down the drain every time I develop a film. hahah.

[@nukecoke87]

the C-41 stabilizer is less cancerous than bad mood...

[@ДжозефЧарльзАльварадо]

Thats true.

[@MrHeno97]

Have you ever used CineStill? It's basically movie film with the remjet taken out

[@edpavez]

I have never used it, but yeah, you are right: CineStill is basically Kodak Vision3 500T respooled without remjet... and REALLY expensive. For the prize of ten CineStill rolls, I can get over 80 bulk-loaded rolls at home.

[@zaborowskimichal]

How did you load the film into the bulk loader as you had a 400ft roll for a 100ft bulk loader ?

[@brunoheinich5021]

EduardoPavezGoye where have you bought the film? thx

[@Frisenette]

Using 70mm film for those old cameras that would take it would be awesome. You'd lose a bit of area to the sprocket holes but you'd still get a significantly larger negative than 120 film. Only, where do you source the stuff?

[@JammiYork]

Amazing! Thanks for making this.

[@shoy6fr]

Edit of my last post, it was in the wrong place sorry : Hey nice video (like always !) I was thinking, did you ever try to develop with Caffenol ? It's very easy, cheap and not toxic. It's basically instant coffee, vitamine C and washing soda !

[@thomasmacisaac1503]

So, to start I am very grateful to have found this video because I have roughly 150+ft of Vision3 500T in my fridge that I am dying to shoot, but haven't found an effective enough way to remove the remjet. I see here that you found a removal agent online that I am excited to try, but before I do I have to ask; were you able to get acceptable results developing rolls in the same c41 chemicals after using the removal agent? I've managed to get a (seemingly) similar amount of remjet off before development using only washing soda. However when I used the chemicals a second time they yielded virtually blank negatives. I was considering using the washing soda and a red safe-light to remove the remjet outside of the developing tank, then re-spooling and developing, which might be a more cost effective in the long run... just thinking out loud there... I would love to hear about, or even see, negatives you developed subsequently in the same chems. Just found your channel tonight and quite enjoying it, Thanks n_n

[@PatrickFryer]

Great explanation and video!

[@hasanhejazi4831]

you're favorite youtuber! you're amazing :)

[@BryanRollinsTV]

I wish id known there was rimjet solution the first time i used Vision3. I used the water i bought the chems up to temperature with but the stuff never quite came off my reels. By far my favorite film to use nonetheless.

[@nikpartsanis8892]

How did you load the film into the bulk loader as you had a 400ft roll for a 100ft bulk loader

[@stzef]

Can someone answer this. This is the only thing I can't get.

[@zaborowskimichal]

Ok i just did it (I had 200ft rool of film), so i just tooked empty plastic from cassete, cuted sticking ends to be able to fit it into can, and rewind half of my roll by myself in darkroom ;) s29.postimg.org/bmd4bol9z/IMG_1075.jpg

[@stzef]

I don't quite understand. So you got the roll of vision 3 and a piece of plastic from a cassette and then wound half of it from the original roll onto this new roll? Doesn't this result in many scratches? Mogę mówić trochę po polsku, jeśli jest to łatwiejsze?

[@zaborowskimichal]

English is not a problem for me, I had 66m (200ft) WIN-DOWN ed film from frame24ltd, to be be able to insert this film in to bulk loader, i had to take 100ft of this, so i wear my cotton glowes, go to darkroom, i rewind half of it on to plastic from a cassete, and i put original spool with 100ft of film in to buld loader, and other film which is on plastic cassete i put in original box and leave it in fridge. I don't see any scratches, why it would be on film ?

[@stzef]

Thats wonderful:) Dziękuję!

[@AndrewRoyal137]

Nice vid, ED. So you’re using a modified C41 process not ECN2 process? Check out Silbersalz35. They are attempting to make commercially available several Kodak Cinefilms for still cameras and use ECN2 to process. They also develop and create lossless scans for free, but unless you live in the EU, shipping is super expensive. I’d be interested in working out the kinks on how to reverse engineer these very stylized cinefilms for still cameras and do my own ECN2 processing and scanning if that’s not completely insane. The film stock is quite cheap, but I hear the ECN2 chemicals are pretty steep

[@julioletran4292]

I love the cinestill film, alltought It´s kodak vision now they have it in medium format

[@garfield4863]

How did you put a 400ft roll in a 100ft bulk loader?

[@AlfredoRoccia]

Hi Eduardo! Nice video. Well, you said colours were very good straight from the scanning process, but did you scan the negative or the printed film? I mean, when one usually scans, he can get two different kind of pictures: a raw scan (where colours are not processed by the scanner and require post-production to remove blue/orange masks, at least) and pictures processed by the scanner (where the scanner usually works for you). So I'm curious now, how did you get the colours you wanted without post-processing? Thanks a lot! :)

[@yashwinning]

Hey man, I think you should shoot some colour film in your next Shoot Film episodes. I mean I love your black and white pictures and truly think you've mastered black and white photography, but to me film photography has always been more than black and white, because film colour is the one that is so hard to reproduce in digital, and really has its own personality. I would love if you shot some Kodak portra/ektar or Fuji film in your next episodes!

[@edpavez]

hi man. I have been shooting color in two episodes so far, and will do in the next one. :)

[@xmauxmaux1]

Genio... Saludos desde argentina.. me encantaría verte usar una retina IIIC hace poco adquirí una .. fíjate si podés ojear la cámara te va a encantar la cámara y el lente... Saludos!!!!

[@billpickle2875]

Glad you made this video... ive been thinking about trying this film for ages. Worried about the processing though as last time i tried the chems went bad quickly and i got some crazy colour shifts. The fish tank heaters seem like a good shout. Could you tell me what wattage heaters you bought? Amazing results.

[@jesusinvegas]

I wanna try making my own "Shoot Film" style video. Do you mind if I loosely copy the idea? I really find it fun to watch. Maybe it never even happens I don't know

[@jurajzahumensky6378]

great :) i use the same loader to load Ilford P4 Surveillance film :)

[@molero110]

Fantastico video. ¿ Lo unico que no entiendo es el ingrediente washing soda? ¿Qué es? En España y en Polonia nunca lo he visto y parece detergente en polvo, pero tengo mis dudas ya que no hace espuma. Puedes aclararmelo. Unos videos geniales Eduardo sigue asi.

[@edpavez]

Eso es. Detergente en polvo. :)

[@QuiqueEfeChannel]

buenos videos ...me suscribo..soy aficionado a la fotografía!! yeahh

[@billpickle2875]

Just shot a roll of the 500t... remjet was no problem. All the negatives came out so thin. Not a single picture was usable. I dunno where i went wrong i followed the instructions and dev times. I then developed a roll of portra 400 the same way and it came out fine. Any one had similar probs?

[@ScottMicciche]

Eduardo, is there any risk of scratching when removing the remjet towards the end, with rubbing the last bits or residue? I really want to try some of this film and see how the Pakon interprets the colors. Thanks for the video.

[@DiviPhotos]

Great work!

[@YassefSelman]

esos azules!!!!!!!

[@juniovitorino]

Hi Ed, How or where we can see all pictures with movie film? I saw the video on KZbin and I l'm shocked! Please, put this online, I'm from Brazil and for us maybe load our own films could be a opportunity to keeping shot with film. Thanks for your videos, it are inspiring. 👊🏼

[@edpavez]

I had the idea of just posting it in this video, but since you asked for it, I uploaded one of them to my Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/profetaparanoia/31024944676/in/dateposted-public/ I'll shoot this film next week and share the results too. Thanks for watching!

muy bacanes los colores! Dónde compraste los químicos C-41? Saludos desde Chilito!

[@FranciscoSoberanisFotografia]

Hi,... the Washing Soda is: ¿ Borax + Sodium bicarbonate ?

[@RocketinExile]

Amazing vid again!!

[@haborufan]

I do like your videos, and the shots in this video are very nice indeed. But, if you'll allow me, I'd like to correct some of your factual inaccuracies about movie film... The movie film in a film camera will absolutely not catch on fire, no matter how fast it runs. The rem-jet backing has two main purposes: one is as it's conductive it offers protection against electrostatic build up and discharge, that would expose tiny flashes on the film. And two, it serves as an anti-halation backing (very strong lights reflecting back from the film plate of the camera, creating a halo effect around highlights). The latter one is not useless for photography as the redish glow around streetlights, and the like on pictures shot on Cinestill films clearly demonstrate. (The reason you don't have these on your shots is that you remove the rem-jet backing after the exposure.) Also, (that goes for all Tungsten films), the way the tungsten color balancing is achieved is that the blue sensitive layer is more sensitive than the other two layers. Thus, you actually have more information on your negative, and it's very easy to correct in photoshop, or even in traditional printing. So you don't really need a yellow filter.

[@albertmiquel6359]

How would you develop removing remjet and not losing the reddish color on highlights? Thank you in advance!

[@JohnTuesday]

Are there any good shop where you can buy this film? How much did you pay for this?

[@AllenHo64]

Great video, good job!! By the way, there were no damage to the film by removing the remjet with your thumb??

[@edpavez]

No damage at all.

[@AllenHo64]

curious to know if there are significant differences to process motion picture films with C41 vs ECN-2

[@Richardsumilang]

Has anyone done this process with a Jobo CPA processor? Wondering if there is anything that could get ruined (aka the lift) since people always warn that sending film with remjet to a lab will ruin their equipment. Thank you.

[@poop_fossil]

I know this is an older video, but what developing reel is that? Will it work with the standard Paterson tanks? I tend to have some trouble getting my film onto the reel and it looks like the wider lips or whatever they're called would make it a lot easier.

[@1989Goodspeed]

Cool!, how did you get a hold of the movie film? Thought that was harder to find then hens teeth… Unless your last name is Tarantino. Anyway, brilliant video and brilliant channel.

[@stzef]

frame24

[@booogs]

love the results! did you agitate during development?

[@josemanuelopazochang2330]

Dónde puedo conseguir el removedor de remjet en chile?? D: no hay alguna forma DIY de hacerlo, exelente vídeo sigue asi.

[@edpavez]

no hay donde conseguirlo, pero hacerlo es fácil de todos modos (ya no uso removedor de remjet): antes de empezar a revelar, usa 20 gramos de detergente en polvo (eso es washing soda). sigue el proceso que muestro acá y antes de aplicar el estabilizador, remueve el remjet con los pulgares al momento del último lavado.

[@luismendez1114]

Aquí www.fotografiaanaloga.com/

[@j.elizabeth4621]

Do you use tap water or distilled? I wonder if the water impurities affect the results

[@andreaskarlsen6978]

Very cool stuff.....

[@tasost2161]

do you know aboute this cine film : Fujifilm 8502 F-c1 ? it has not remjet

[@GlendaSiagian]

I like the result, no I looove it.

[@bombapiotr]

Didn't you use the wrong filter? I thought that ones that increase temperature have blue tint to them :O

[@edpavez]

No. More temperature: more orange. Less temperature: more blue. The film is calibrated to look “normal” under high temperature, so it compensates by being very blue. In order to shoot it outdoors, you need an orange filter.

[@mrchenxicui]

Hey man, love your work, totally awesome! Just have a few questions if you don't mind. The reel showed up in the video seemed to be 400ft long and the bulk loader you use (which is quite commonly seen) only holds reels up to 100ft long, how did you manage that? And where did you purchase that reel? I live in Paris but since I'm just an amateur so never figured out which places to go for these stuff. Thanks ever so much!

[@edpavez]

I searched online and found a store selling it in here, www.frame24ltd.co.uk/ Also, I grabbed the 400ft roll and the bulk loader and used my changing bag to respool about 100ft (or what I believe is around 100 ft) inside the bulk loader. it was the most tedious process, and made no sense to film it, but that's what happened. best of luck!

[@mrchenxicui]

EduardoPavezGoye haha I can't wait to try it out! Many thanks for the speedy reply! Cheers!

[@xiaonansong162]

good idea to use fishtank heater!

[@taomeister]

Every time I've tried using regular tape to secure the film to the old end canister using the bulk loader, my motorized cameras tend to pull all the film out of the canister :-\

[@Garubolas]

How do u respool the 400ft into 100ft bulkloader?

[@samueljames9015]

Eduardo - wow what a great commitment, well done on all those patient processes... A bit off topic but how do you find the EOS-M with 15mm Voigtlander Helios? I have the same combination but find walking videos quite jarring, but yours looks ok. You don't use a stabiliser or anything I guess?

[@edpavez]

no, I just hold the camera with my hand and that's it. It does have a purple fringe, specially on the left side.

[@samueljames9015]

good to know, thanks Eduardo

[@timchisham2792]

How well did the fish tank heaters work? I know Ted Forbes tried it and wasn't a fan.

[@edpavez]

Depends on your definition of "working well". It's a fish tank water heater, so it's not exact, BUT you waste a lot less water. To me, that's good enough. :)

[@timchisham2792]

EduardoPavezGoye did it take a ridiculous amount of time to heat up or was it reasonable. I want to process c-41 myself but I'm concerned about the heat issue.

[@edpavez]

Tim Chisham I never use them to heat cold water and turn it hot, so I can't answer that. But why would you use cold water with them, anyway? Just pour some hot water from the tap, and let them maintain the temperature.

[@lovercontax4979]

will any photos be shared in anytime soon?

[@exxpresate]

Amigo!!! que lente usaste en tu camara???en vdd que los colores se ven hermosos. saludos desde Monterrey Mexico

[@edpavez]

En la X-Pan, el 45mm f/4 Saludos al bello México!

[@exxpresate]

orale!! si me imagine algo asi porque peus las fotos salian panoramicas. Que Chingon amigo en vdd disfruto mucho ver tus videos y los Fran. y gracias la vdd mi Mexico es Hermoso!! y por aquellos lares donde viven tambien! saludos y aqui seguimos en contacto

[@ignacioarayaramirez2726]

Ed! soy de Chile y quería saber donde podría conseguir el remjet romever, lo estuve buscando por ebay, pero no he dado con nada... ayuda!!! Muchas gracias

[@luismendez1114]

Aquí www.fotografiaanaloga.com/

[@MrNinainaide]

Thank you Ed for your interesting video! I was wondering if you have adjusted your developing time as your pouring temperature is lower than 43.5 degree C, which is the temperature suggested in the manuals of the c-41 chemical.

[@edpavez]

Not really. Check this video about developing with exact temperatures: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKm3dmlqhrd1nac

[@jacobhernandez1756]

Amazing !!!

[@rafaeladi00]

Did you just use a C-41 developer kit?

[@lks2992]

magnificent!