as soon as you started cutting I could see the first issue with the setup - that angle iron is wobbling all over the place but it's going to be more rigid when you get closer to where it's mounted, and the blades with a more rigid setup will have an advantage
@riba223311 ай бұрын
Yep just wanted to write this, first test is flawed unfortunately.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, the Milwaukee did the worst at that test anyway, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching sharing.
@stevengrubbs8911 ай бұрын
@@Shoptoolreviews where those Diablo tool safety glasses come from 🤷🏻♂️😂😂😂😂
@msk39055 ай бұрын
@@Shoptoolreviews I was thinking same thing more often than not you end up with this scenario, life doesn’t allow ideal conditions every time and what good is testing during ideal conditions if that occurs only a few times?
@whatsmolly57413 ай бұрын
@@Shoptoolreviews I mean I feel like anyone who's ever cut anything with power tools (or even a hand saw) much less been on a job site, knows that it absolutely does matter how much overhang you have..... it might not matter with something like an angle grinder but it's rather obvious the bar is getting vibrated alot by the multi tool. It's hard with a sawzall and that's just 2 directions this tool is vibrating the bar in all directions. Overhang is directly proportional to cutting speed.
@lostinspace639911 ай бұрын
First test with the metal bar the Bosch was at a disadvantage because the metal bar was at its longest and was bouncing up and down a lot but with each cut less so
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, Bosch was 2nd-best, the Milwaukee did the worst, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching and sharing.
@Cavett2411 ай бұрын
Ive never been disappointed with any of my carbide milwaukee blades. If there is a blade style type that milwaukee doesnt make. Diablo is almost always my 2nd choice.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
Diablo is always a great choice for saw blades. Thanks for watching.
@OhioPowerTool11 ай бұрын
Great head-to-head test! Really curious is the Starlock plays into the performance at all for the Bosch.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting thought. Maybe the full circumference of the blade connection, providing more power delivery to the actual teeth.
@j.christ87868 ай бұрын
Curious if the longer length of the Milwaukee blade makes any difference in its performance at all. It would be interesting to test both blade lengths on the Diablo to see if that affects the cutting speed, though the long blade position on that looks like it could potentially be less secure since it has a gap in the two positions closes to the tool
@NonieTools3 ай бұрын
I always use my Diablo blades on the long position and I've never had any issues with them!
@smokeskull3 ай бұрын
Multitool is the best home tool ever. I use mine for slicing cardboard regularly. Then its crazy handy for cutting nails off or cutting wood where nothing else will work
@jessecollins4901Күн бұрын
I personally like the longer blades to use instead of a reciprocating saw for cutting nails if I put one in the wrong spot. I still love my reciprocating saw but the oscillating multi tool has replaced it in a lot of tasks for me.
@black_sc0rpi011 ай бұрын
That isn't BOSCH's top dog blade for cutting metal, although it already has Carbide blades. They released a different, more resistant, series. Thanks for the testing. 👍
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We were not aware that Bosch has a better metal blade. Thanks for sharing.
@DGALVIN4510 ай бұрын
Bosch and Jorgensen multi blades have always worked great for me 💯
@richiejames92811 ай бұрын
Why is it that no multi tool blade lasts for as long as the price they charge for them? they are so expensive and are cooked so quickly. it’s frustrating but then I suppose multi tools are normally used in desperate situations when they are the last resort.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We would like to see prices come down. However, we have seen carbide blades made, and it’s not an easy or cheap process.
@littlejackalo532611 ай бұрын
2 rules. ANY metal, use carbide. For wood only use bimetal blades. Bimetal blades are no good for metal, no matter what they say. Even if it say "wood with nails," don't believe it.
@littlejackalo532611 ай бұрын
Once you touch a piece of metal with a regular steel blade, it's cooked. Bimetal blades are better, but I only use carbide for any metal contact.
@richiejames92811 ай бұрын
@@littlejackalo5326 yeah they should use Cobolt really. cheaper than carbide and nearly as durable. a good middle ground
@NonieTools3 ай бұрын
I believe this was a very good test and shows the value of these blades. There's so many situations where nothing will work except a multi tool! I personally use Diablo carbide, but i never use it on the short position like you did here. I wonder if that makes much of a difference? I will have to try the Bosch after watching this!
@HowdyDo27 ай бұрын
The Bosch blade got shortchanged because the bar was moving up and down; wasn't positioned solid like for the other blades. The Bosch carbide blades are very good and last a long time.
@mrrhee24674 ай бұрын
Inaccurate test due to length from anchor point on the bench. Which blade post test cuts anything? I'm guessing the Bosch would be top dog.
@dcs2700619 күн бұрын
So running on 8 is not optimal has the SFM is to high for a saw blade. Would like to see the test performed at optimum speed for the material.
@davidhabener57676 ай бұрын
I stumbled onto this review by accident, great review, thank you, I always favored Bosch. I have many Bosch products. I'm not biased by only using Bosch, I just bought a Dewalt ovulating tool to take apart reclaimed lumber, needing to get through nails and staples. Now I know what and what not to look for. Thank You for the review.
@Soupdragonism6 ай бұрын
Ovulating tool?
@ginginthing3 ай бұрын
Great test. Thx for the vid.
@jbflyinglow11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. My mind is going numb because as you know, it’s too cold here in Florida to even go out in the shop.😂
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
At least for us Floridians it is.
@angiespencer41569 ай бұрын
Aww poor baby
@kentaroo.77596 ай бұрын
I haven't bought any of the more expensive blades yet. I started out with the cheaper ones from Amazon. I've gotta get some of those blades.
@mattgleasom975211 ай бұрын
Where did you get the Diablo safety glasses?
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
I’m sure from a Diablo event in the past.
@Mundidark11 ай бұрын
That first test wasn’t overly fair the angle was vibrating the more over hang there was but still 👍 good enough
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
Thank you. We could've put it in a vice, but we were wanting to mimic real world use. Also, that definitely didn't swing any results. Thanks for watching.
@jose8377111 ай бұрын
I do remodeling and actually I have the best luck with the dremel carbide 3 pack for like $35, obviously I haven't cut this many screws at ones but I have never worn the teeth, they cut slow on wood and smoke a lot because the teeth are so small and get clog very fast, I guess use the right blade for the job, and this are the best when cutting there you are not sure what is in the wood or the drywall
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We looked for a DREMEL metal blade, but we only found bi-Metal blades from them
@smiley33039 ай бұрын
I have only used three brands but the Dremel Carbide didn’t hold up for me on screws. I think I was only able to do 6 or so and it sucked. Was cutting out some screws on a deck. I also had to modify it to fit the Bauer which I use with M18 adapter.
@jasonhutt91174 ай бұрын
Very interesting and must admit you made very thin cuts with the angle iron so not much issue with vibration. I notice the Milwaukee has smaller teeth may be very good with nails etc. Be interesting to try the blades that work well on wood and nails. The difference in the prices are not huge as well. End up saving more with the better blades
@randysmith963611 ай бұрын
I only use Milwaukee and Diablo. For the Christmas sale Diablo had a sale on them. They had not sold them and had a bunch marked down. I grabbed a couple packs and then i got to thinking. Wish i had got more. Next morning went back and bought what was left 8 or 9 packs. I was thinking they were 14.99 or 19.99 originally. I payed 9.9? Per pack. 5.00 for a Carbide blade, im in. I just found my empty cases, "Trial offer, 2 blades for the price if 1" Universal fit Carbide blade. Im in Thanks for another great video and review brother.
@CoKanet-no2jt11 ай бұрын
Don't forget to get the circular saw blades. Picked up 6 and 7 inch. The packs came with 2 framing blades for 12 bucks
@randysmith963611 ай бұрын
@@CoKanet-no2jt Yes sir. I didn't mention it but I got three packs of the 7.25 blades, the 14 pc set of the high speed steel spade set (2) and three packs of the jig saw blades. I was pretty shocked to see them all discounted at 50% off the "special" price. Right place place, right time I guess. Edi: Just checked, only two of the circular saw blade packs.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
Those are great prices.
@bttfdmc198411 ай бұрын
I agree that the first test was a bit unfair with the bar having too much flex since you wouldn’t be cutting small tips off that far out without some support. Also which tool you use can make a difference the Milwaukee tool on speed 8 could be a different speed on a dewalt, ridgid, ryobi, or other brand.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We could have easily mounted this in a vice and tested a solid cut every time. Our idea for sticking it out a foot was to mimic a cut on the jobsite, like you're stepping on it with your foot, or off the bed of your truck. Also, even after multiple cuts, this changed maybe a couple inches, if that. Furthermore, the Milwaukee did the worst at that test anyway, which was the last to go, and the DeWalt did the best, which was 2nd to go. Your concern may be scientifically valid, but it didn't swing any results. Regardless of the tool being used, we wanted it to be the exact same tool, with the exact same settings with each test. Thus, we used the Milwaukee, with a full battery, on speed 8. Thanks for watching.
@bttfdmc198411 ай бұрын
@@Shoptoolreviews I fully respect this response. I've seen several tests of these tools and blades, and each is different. Most have the same results even if the executions are different.
@peterthomas57928 ай бұрын
Milwaukee was the only one that had a freshly charged battery for the bolts. Never mind the battery indicator, the others had a partly-charged battery.
@j.christ87868 ай бұрын
That's not gonna make more than a tiny difference on a brushless tool, the tooth composition and shape and the rate at which they wear is the important part
@JunoNero6 ай бұрын
Maybe next time you can test the Dremel carbide blades.
@angiespencer41569 ай бұрын
Look you should test with the same battery power and same length of material then you get a true test for each
@chrisfinch344510 ай бұрын
In all seriousness u kept the the Bosch blade straight and the Milwaukee u moved it back and forth
@DCigar11 ай бұрын
Saw the TikTok on this and came straight over here 🤙
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, we appreciate it.
@kauabarros96389 ай бұрын
Milwaukee metal blade is a beast
@Teashton11 ай бұрын
Wouldn't you want to swap in a fresh battery for each test?
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
That really shouldn't be an issue for newer Lithium-ion batteries. They don't have the voltage drop-off like the older NiMH batteries did. Thanks for watching.
@donalexey9 ай бұрын
@@Shoptoolreviews Actually they do. Not as much as a NiMH but still noticible with a stopwatch.
@georgecooksey866111 ай бұрын
CMT blades?
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We used any of the Oscillating Multi-Tool blades that we could find, which were specific for Metal only.
@brianf961911 ай бұрын
WoW , that was a Great Test and the results were really surprising , but I never cut steel with a Oscillating tool anyway .. When it comes to Wood I buy my blades from Amazon I get about 50 blades for like $20 😂😅 , I know I know , crazy right but I swear those cheap wood blades last a Looong time especially for 50 cents each ....😂😅
@Frank-sy3li11 ай бұрын
Great channel.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@bmkg17camping11 ай бұрын
Why didn't you test the Fein blades? They originated the oscillating saw.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We only used blades that we could find on the shelves at local supply houses.
@Johndeere6011 ай бұрын
Any info on new flex high torque
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
Glad we could help. Thanks for watching.
@EdCardinal-MindThumpАй бұрын
Thanks, this was really helpful.
@richardlavoie68332 ай бұрын
You forgot the best....EZARC
@davidnorth34114 ай бұрын
A nasty little bolt I’m up against is an old rust Mercedes seat bolt , they will strip out this little sleeve glide keepers , bolt has no other way to come out either by drilling or cutting . No sawzaw is reaching it , it’s this or drill , or heavy blows with a wedge . Heat induction could have helped things , a step if not taken to save your hardware your onto the heavier road
@ourkid20009 ай бұрын
Lets see em on a Grade 5 bolt and, god help us, a Grade 8! Lets get gnarly!
@AmixLiark4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't use screws for this. Most screws are cast meaning they are porous. Forged Steel nails destroy a blade so much quicker... trust me i know. You can probably get through 5 3.5 inch steel nails before you lose a few teeth on a diablo.
@costavong601811 ай бұрын
you forget to test homedepot, lowes and harbour freight brand for another price level
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
These blades are from Home Depot and Lowe’s. We didn’t know that harbor freight has an OMT blade specifically for metal.
@costavong601811 ай бұрын
@@Shoptoolreviews Bascially, most DIY or prosumer do quite care about this, a simple test on those blade can reveal the potential hahah
@chrisose11 ай бұрын
Dewalt has a carbide OMT blade that works well in my experience.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
We started to grab that blade too, but they list it as Metal and Wood. We were specifically grabbing the Metal only blades. In hindsight, we probably should've included that one too. Thanks for watching and sharing.
@luisillo198711 ай бұрын
The diablo let me down.
@timholstpetersen799 ай бұрын
That's a FAIL from the get go.... with the bar hanging out that far you can't control the vibrations.... are you f... kidding me? NOBODY would _EVER_ cut it like that !?!?!
@sheilamessick654510 ай бұрын
Tool Milwauke was used blade
@richardcomeau82319 ай бұрын
This guys definitely sponsored
@Shoptoolreviews9 ай бұрын
That's interesting that the only thing you state is that "this guys definitely sponsored." No data, no details. We run a test using the same power tool, showing every blade. Not sure how this one can be swayed. Thanks for watching.
@jnmc-vx4fw11 ай бұрын
Diablo then spider , no other blades
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
Spyder doesn’t work well with metal.
@beauxtx195911 ай бұрын
The Diablo was handicapped by a less than full battery. You changed for the Milwaukee. 75% vs. 100% charge is a significant difference. Each test should be done with a 100% charged battery, not just four bars showing.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
If we were using Nickel Metal Hydride batteries, your point would be valid. These new Lithium ion batteries do not fall off in performance like that. The Diablo blade was not suffering from lack of voltage.
@tedmcdonald337711 ай бұрын
😎⚒️😎⚒️😎
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@DizzyLean11 ай бұрын
I bought the same Milwaukee blade and I cut one screw and it took the teeth of the blade right off
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
That’s surprising. We’ve tested that blade several times.
@1414141x7 ай бұрын
What screw was it. If it was dry wall or a similar hardened steel then they notorious for killing metal cutting blades.
@shellderpАй бұрын
I only had the dewalt and thought these tools just suck at cutting screws. Wow dewalts blades suck!
@carlojarvis88614 күн бұрын
That is a lie I will never look at your tv show
@harisjaved137911 ай бұрын
Who makes the best Omt blades? Diablo
@captindan546011 ай бұрын
In my experience Diablo makes the best tool accessories and at a decent price.
@1x4x9311 ай бұрын
Yup.
@steffendetrick11 ай бұрын
I would have normally agreed until I used these new Milwaukee nitrous blades which are much better than their old ones which were mediocre at best
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
That's definitely hard to argue. They make great blades in general, of all types. Thanks for watching.
@harlanborders94311 ай бұрын
In my experience the Milwaukee blade’s are not much have not tried the new ones yet. There hardwood blade’s are the pieces of trash. Brand new me and my brother tried to cut a notch out two blades done and never made a good inch cut before gone smoking DeWalt ain’t worth a nickel either.
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
That's interesting. Of course, these were specific for Metal, so they're totally different blades. Thanks for watching.
@djaa711 ай бұрын
Metal is not a solid test. Cut drywall & stucco with it. Opening walls is the majority of what i use this for as a plumber. Plunge cuts to notch wood would be second and hard to reach metal parts where a copper cutter may not turn. Walls ruin the blades 10x faster than anything else i do. To the point i literally include a few blades in the quote and each one ends up with a V shape well past the teeth, as i force it thru stucco walls in older buildings.
@djaa711 ай бұрын
So far, the only blade i haven't destroyed is the newer Milwaukee Titanium Nitrus blades. Instead of going thru 2-3 blades per job, I've been using the same one for the last 5 gigs and it's still sharp. Currently only $35 for a 3 pack. And look at this. It won your comparison test.
@grikemimes11 ай бұрын
This was a test specifically for metal tho...
@djaa711 ай бұрын
@@grikemimes yea, i get that. I was just saying there is a material that wears them out faster and is a better indicator of which blade is actually best. But same result
@Shoptoolreviews11 ай бұрын
If they make them specific for Metal, we’re not going to test them on drywall.
@djaa711 ай бұрын
@@Shoptoolreviews why not? You're of the mindset that everyone on the planet does only what is intended? Each brand has one drywall blade and they don't work. I was just suggesting a material that would provide a very harsh and better indicator of the quality of the blade. Which is the point of your comparison. You don't have to be so rigid little buddy.