Jon Stewart's Systemic Racism

[@ShortFatOtaku]

to everybody saying "no audio/video", it's not me it's youtube, that's why there are other comments of people who can watch it just fine. i dunno man go catch it on the bitchute or somethin there's nothin i can do lol

[@waywardstoner9416]

At first it didn't work for me but now it does. Weird shıt

[@MillywiggZ]

Didn’t work a few hours ago, KZbin was calling it a stream though for some reason. But it works now.

[@mysticrunic5013]

Yeah the audio wasn't working for me at first it actually happens quite a bit for me so I usually just come back later and it works probably something to do with KZbin

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

Weird, I have only seen it happek on small channels like mine.

[@SGT676]

Just came back a couple hours alter and I can finally hear it

[@markedfang]

"I don't think America is all that bad." - literally just some guy "Sounds like racist apologetics to me" - the host probably

[@CuT7yFlaM]

That's exactly what tickles me wrong. No matter what you say it's not right.

[@nikkili8944]

@@CuT7yFlaM You can't please them unless you parrot the same old talking points they want to hear and agree with basically everything. Otherwise you're evil right wing extremist, fascist, nazi etc.

[@skinnysnorlax1876]

"Shut up immigrant, the native born whites are talking" non-xenophobic white people

[@aztro.99]

dude wtf ur dogwhisling so hard rn

[@someguy4405]

“We don’t even engage with white men.” *laughter and applause* You know where this society’s hatred is pointed.

[@mr.patriotjol]

Yet she probably has a white husband lol

[@someguy4405]

@@mr.patriotjol It almost always comes from some hatred of the self. Groups always brand their enemies with what they’re most insecure/afraid of being. Hitler had Jewish ancestry etc.

[@songbird7450]

@@someguy4405 I agree that Jung was right about the shadow being projected unto other people, although I think that for example Jordan Peterson's explanation of Hitler is more profound that self-hatred...

[@dombam8490]

no brother wars this time.

[@stephenmccalley8346]

If they exclude white men from the conversation, how exactly are the white men expected to participate in the conversation?

[@dancreary3340]

Dinner is the only thing that woman has ever raced toward.

[@psychegoddessoflight9358]

Funny she built an entire business around having dinner.

[@Ahabite]

We were all thinking this...

[@ravenRedwake]

And the Pocs are the only ones who’ll have her. Because they’ll put up with a lot of bullshit if they can play Madden and get sex and tendies. Right up until it’s like “Darell, you need to help pay the bills,” then he’s going be like “eh we need space…” and peace out to the next pile of swine.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

She thinks she's being anti-racist because she's eating at the same table as Black women are. 🤣 So "stunning and brave".🙄

[@LibLibertyLibertarian]

Her business stands to profit off the guilt of white women and victim culture. No bias there! She admits she's a racist, but she's also a misandrist. Look up "Woke inc PragerU" it highlights why this poison is here. Big companies can sweep their badness (unhealthy foods, sweatshops etc) under the woke rug. Notice how nobody talks about that stuff anymore? They sponsor this crap through adverts. They have equity departments demanding for this crap.

[@MahDryBread]

As soon as they get into "All of us BLANK people" I just can't take them seriously anymore. How're you supposed to speak on behalf of a whole group of people? You can't possibly know the majority of their opinions. It's just not how humans work, we aren't a hive mind. What leads someone to thinking that they can speak on behalf of a whole group of people and be at all accurate? Just narcissism? I couldn't imagine being on a talk show and trying to speak on behalf of everyone with my profession, let alone my race. That's insane. The only opinion you can accurately give without consulting someone is your own.

[@Da1FooGuy]

Never thought I'd see a poketuber here lmao

[@MahDryBread]

@@Da1FooGuy I've been on the show!

[@sdfabctr]

that sort of rhetoric actually makes me feel physically ill. It's so vile and completely unfair to condemn and judge someone in that way. We saw a man get emotionally abused on late night tv by 3 rich assholes and that's really the most essential nature of that video. He really seemed to be the only one actually trying to talk about the issues in good faith and that was taken advantage of by 3 douchebags who only wanted to posture and virtue signal.

[@markzuckergecko621]

Leftism is a mental illness.

[@maximus4765]

You need to be a monolith so they can attack you

[@RandomAtribute20k]

I like how when the immigrant talked about his experience, they immediately shifted their goalposts and talk over him. Ironic.

[@CrazyJabberwock]

Most activist groups can be summarized in these words "HUSH NOW! I am speaking for you"

[@Corrderio]

Most modern day activists only care about their message being right instead of the people they claim to stand up for. After all look how these BLM NPCs will gladly throw a black person under the bus if they say they're republican, conservative, or criticize the organization.

[@markzuckergecko621]

They were "denying his lived experience". No really, they actually were. Not in the make believe way like they always claim other people are doing when they make a rational point that goes against their narrative.

[@LibLibertyLibertarian]

Also of note is how she's about having "conversations", yet silences a differing opinion, it's not a conversation it's a lecture, it's orders/demands. Someone get her a dictionary, highlight hypocrisy, conversation, racism and a few more words.

[@BanditZRaver]

"I care about the BIPOCs, except when your world view is not aligned to my White Guilt"

[@AndreaRodolfoNadia]

Fantastic how she started with "we need to have this conversation" and then, not even 20 minutes in, was like "and I'm not here to have this conversation".

[@wumpusrat]

Because to people like them, "conversation" means "I'm going to lecture you, so sit down and shut up."

[@jeffwb6956]

Someone needs to explain the difference between a conversation and a monologue to that woman, she barely let him get a word out before she talked over him.

[@danmann861]

Her organisation’s whole goal is to tell women how awful they are for profit. She knows damn well she is not there for a conversation. She’s an Eric Cartman level grifter of the worst kind. She literally spreads sickness for profit.

[@scienceface8884]

"Please pay $2500 to have that 'conversation' with my black employees!"

[@Alexander_the_Greatest]

Hahahaha

[@benmacklin3531]

White lady: We need to have a conversation about race. White lady 3 minutes later: Hey white guy, shut up, you're not allowed to talk about race.

[@scienceface8884]

@NorseViking84 "You need to pay $2.5k a plate to have a 'conversation' about racism with my black employees."

[@samfire3067]

​​@@scienceface8884mean while África:what IS food?

[@justforever96]

When a leftist talks about "conversations" they generally mean "shut up while I tell you how it's going to be".

[@LordBitememan]

I did a little experiment with some lefty friends of mine once. I asked them: Your grandfather takes out pile of mortgages and a huge ass credit card. Every weekend he's taking you out to restaurants and movies and theaters, etc. He dies a hundred thousand dollars in debt. Do you have a moral obligation to repay this debt? Most of them were saying no, eff the banks. One, who was a bit quicker on the uptake, said "Is this about white privilege?" When I said yes suddenly everyone did a 180. Which goes to show, the concept of inter-generation benefit and debt is rejected as bullshit among the left until it becomes a race thing.

[@vyshnavreddy9201]

Haha, that's clever

[@Yoshi278]

No its just rejected once its not beneficial to them. If I could profit from doing nothing I would.

[@CuT7yFlaM]

@@Yoshi278 Like the good little hypocrites they are.

[@GodOfPlague]

Nice question you pose their. Debt should end at death. Death should be a risk to consider for lenders. Blame, motivation, aspirations all should end at the end. Nothing should be carried forward let the dead mourn their own.

[@nova_supreme8390]

Leftists should be aware that concept of consent applies also here. You did not have power as a kid to choose otherwise and you probably did not gave informed consent later in your life on the situation thus you cannot be held responsible for consequences of your father's actions. If they claim you are responsible for the debt, then you can fire back that they are essemtially rape apologists as your father economically abused you and they are blaming you for it. Then watch them cope and seethe. 👌

[@Jeff-cn9up]

Regarding the horrible racist, misandrist woman in Stewart's video, a quote by Upton Sinclair comes to mind: 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.' Not exactly the same, but the incentives for her failing to understand the gaping flaws in her philosophy and her terrible condescending behavior are identical. She enjoys and profits from her awfulness, so she is utterly captured by it and is angered by attempts to refute or decry it.

[@CyberWolf755]

You can include Stewart with that woman

[@Muizemullard414]

I bet she failed upwards her whole career...

[@vane909090]

This is one of the core problems of it all. In America, racism is extremely lucrative, and these people all depend on it to make money. Lots of money.

[@markzuckergecko621]

I call them pyromaniac firefighters.

[@Mr.Unacceptable]

I find it tough to take psudointelectual fat people seriously on matters of morals and humanity. Same as the religious. They proved right off they will belive bullshit so how can they possibly convince me of anything. Some religious can be tolerated. The ones that can put it in a box saying 'i belive' but do not let it interfere in their lives, judgement or morality, but fat people. You already see they do not care about themselves how can they possibly care about anyone else. This woman is not in it to help anyone but herself. The saying 'you have to love yourself before you can love others' comes to mind. I think it's true. That fat ignorant woman listen to her and her anger. she hates herself. People like this have done horrible unspeakable despicable things to people and animals in their lives and it's why they act this way. People who have done horrible things learned from it and forgiven themselves do not have to claim virtue. You do not act kind, you be kind. WOKE is acting virtuous. The WOKE and the religious specifically Christians are the mirror image of each other. It's why WOKE looks so much like a religion. They both have the same tactics. virtue signaling, cancel culture, victim culture the entire list of tactics and arguments have parallels. How many time have you heard a christian complain they are Oppressed they can't shove a bible down every child's throat in schools? It is the exact same argument the WOKE claim in not being able to groom your children into their ideology.

[@vane909090]

The big lady did a pretty huge self-report there. No wonder she's the expert on racism, being a self-reported racist herself.

[@Antiformed]

What drives me up the fucking wall is that when dumb people like her talk about white supremacy and power/privilege, at no point is it EVER brought up-- even as a sign of progress-- that America JUST HAD A BLACK PRESIDENT FOR 8 FUCKING YEARS! Why would a country that hate minorities elect a black president not once, but TWICE?? What the hell, am I taking crazy pills here?

[@HaggisMuncher-69-420]

I mean, I'm quite a racist myself but it's due to seeing the diversity burning down cities and demanding gibs.

[@hudsonflores5478]

amogus refrence?

[@acheybones588]

And you’re self-reporting your own ignorance with the implication that you think racist people exist as a binary, rather than a spectrum. Everyone has racial biases whether they admit it or not, and being self aware of your biases actually helps prevent you from acting on them. “being she’s a self-reported racist herself” dude get off your high horse, you might learn something

[@tHiSfUgGgiNdUdE]

Every time they say that they "need to have a conversation", it really means they want us to receive their blessed wisdom. They aren't seeking a conversation, they're seeking a monologue, in which their aim is to win a convert to their religion. And anything that can be seen as racial progress is something to be talked around, instead of celebrated.

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

bingo you got it bang on bud

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

Nailed it.

[@ReikuHidori]

Well they didnt seem interested in what that fellow on the screen had to day.

[@wyssmaster]

"this is what happens when we don't have the conversation" "we don't allow white men into our racism discussion" -The same person in a span of two minutes

[@doyourbest_uwu]

They are seeking a conversation about having a conversation

[@Sines314]

The worst part of them attacking that guy, is when he was just saying "If you talk this way, you're going to provoke a knee-jerk negative reaction". And they can't even talk to him on their messaging. Such friggin' cultists.

[@ORLY911]

They keep saying "we need to have a conversation about x" its not a conversation if its one sided and absolute in what the takewaya should be, its a lecture at best and shaming at worst, both attempts at social engineering.

[@Zeburaman2005]

This is the reason I’ve checked out of most debate shows over the last two decades, most of the hosts are either too dumb to properly play their part or they play dumb to encourage audience boosting shouting matches. Most of the guests are either opinionated morons or professional trolls whose main function is to push an agenda, while simultaneously shanking the odd knowledgeable guest opposing their bullshit. Every time they use the phrase “so, what you are saying is…” you can be sure they are about to utterly misrepresent what was actually said in the worst possible manner. And then there is the constant moralising and feelings over facts attitude that invariably turns every “debate” into another version of the Simpsons classic “Won’t somebody think of the children?!” punchline.

[@eviloverlordsteve]

@@ORLY911 their "conversations" are struggle sessions

[@theprofesionalist7927]

If they can't even acknowledge the existence of poor white people and rich black people than yeah, they're never going to have constructive conversations about "white privilege". It's always going to be bad things happen and nothing has gotten better which will just come off as brain dead, delusional, or completely out of touch to the average American no matter their race.

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

they're not humans they're just loudspeakers for the ideology with a heartbeat and it's sad to see

[@rahn45]

The universe certainly does have a sense of humor: Tucker Carlson is now one of the most popular and respected political commentators today, and Jon Stewart has turned into the monster that he fought against.

[@Sound557]

He’s popular but not respected. His own network says he’s not a news source and he covers bullshit like M&M redesigns. He’s a Bill O’Reily for the modern age, man.

[@onepoundswallowtwopoundcoc3115]

@@Sound557 No, he is by far one of the most respected by the people.

[@robbanks1436]

Yes, Jon Leibowitz is infuriating. Very condescending now and no longer funny.

[@robbanks1436]

@@Sound557 Rachel Maddow was the first one to have her lawyers use the excuse that she shouldn’t be taken seriously. Tucker’s then used it and at least Tucker admits his show is opinion. His personality annoys me sometimes and I don’t think you should blindly follow anyone especially anyone in corporate media.

[@Idontevenwanachannel]

​@@onepoundswallowtwopoundcoc3115 True, but I think that speaks more to the low quality of political commentary on mainstream media sources than any quality work on Carlson's part. IMO he'd fit right back in on Crossfire if it came back - it's just everyone else has exceeded him in terms of partisanship and shallowness at this point.

[@loltwest9423]

It takes an immigrant to tell these people that what they have isn't actually racist. Because only an immigrant can understand what an actual racist society is like.

[@acheybones588]

No, I doubt your premise; Indigenous peoples are literally the antithesis to immigrants, and they suffer greatly from the effects of racism. They suffered in the past, and up to this very day.

[@CaptainGinyu]

its 15 years late but i'm glad people are finally turning against jon stewart

[@SoakintheSchadenfreude]

Stewart was always the Bailey.

[@jiggycalzone8585]

I admit it took me a long time to realize he choose moral causes by dartboard

[@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302]

To be fair he had those rare moments where it did feel like he was trying. Humiliating Jim Cramer after the economic collapse in 2009, making fun of the fact that healthcare.gov was a complete failure on launch, he had his moments. Liberal? Sure, but not obnoxiously so. Of course then he got TDS and that put him on the path to whatever this is.

[@jasonglebe3235]

Exactly. The people saying, "Man, John Stewart has been really bad recently" I'm over here thinking, "Recently?"

[@markzuckergecko621]

One of the things I've noticed about communism is how they're able to gradually pull moderates further to the left, by taking the most absurdly far left position possible. Moderates have a natural tendency to "find a middle ground", so when communists say bat shit insane shit like "ban all guns", moderates will counter with now hold on, maybe some restrictions are good, but we shouldn't ban all guns. And just like that, they've gotten you to agree with gun restrictions, and you think you're taking the middle ground while you're actually inching closer to their side. That's why a lot of moderates seem to think there was a time where Jon Stewart wasn't a far left idealogue.

[@cyryc]

'I think white people blame black people.." ok, we're done Jon. If I were to say "I think Jewish people blame.." I'd be cancelled mid sentence

[@danieldorn2927]

Dont you find it funny how jewish people dont seem to think they are white? Although they have a "white" skin color?

[@TCNDRGA]

OH NO! THE AUDIO! IT'S BROKEN!

[@DaxWolf777]

Glad I'm not the only one it happened to

[@michaelheath3014]

Its youtube fuckery. Come back in 20-30 min it will be just fine.

[@CptManboobs]

KZbin be shutting Dev down for having information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary clinton

[@ChangelingLumin]

Time for the captions to save the day. Edit: OH GOD THERE ARE NO CAPTIONS! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[@SagaVonDrusus]

I feared the worst and thought my speakers to my phone broke lol

[@jonj1163]

She's the type of woman that probably thinks a 'Not-zee' is a Sonic Burger employee that takes a minute longer to make her burger.

[@BmanTheChamp]

Or forgets one of the probably hundred toppings she asks for on her burger.

[@jonj1163]

@@BmanTheChamp Oh the horror. Let us never forget.

[@Sound557]

You gotta love how the guy literally tells them that they’ll lose elections with the crazy stuff they’re saying and they just scoff at him

[@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302]

I'm kind of ok with them losing elections for a while, like maybe for the next 12 years or so just like the last time back in 1980.

[@M4Dbrat]

"We're losing elections because you're telling us we're losing elections!"

[@keithfilibeck2390]

they are Ideologically possesed, they don't care about any of that, they are only conduits for their Post Modernist ideology.

[@niropaxum958]

You sound like you have superior opinions and cassette shaped minions.

[@GodOfPlague]

@@niropaxum958 deceptions superior autobots inferior. Ravage is still my favorite minion

[@emptyspaces8114]

Wow. Stewart has really fallen far. He organized an entire studio full of people just to bully someone for clout.

[@remyllebeau77]

And they made sure to have the one voice of reason call in so it would be easy to mute him if they wanted to.

[@jean-sebastienmatte2358]

Guys this is Dev's most intersting video. Or at least that's what my cat told me. Unfortunately, I cannot hear high frequencies.

[@arashparthian_112]

My cat told me the same thing Even tough I don't have a cat

[@sol9808]

LOL

[@curstdragon]

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who isn't getting audio.

[@WarTurkeyify]

No sound?

[@vyshnavreddy9201]

Yeah, what's going on?

[@gregutz4284]

You ever think that people in the "black community" actually want harsher punishments for crack cocaine? Perhaps they're tired of seeing crack kill their community. This angle never gets mentioned

[@zombiegamer123]

I wanted to comment this. If your referring to the AJW video I think this is something that’s often overlooked. The issue is that the war on drugs angle gets brought up and then there’s no moving on from that because those are two mutually exclusive narratives.

[@DrCruel]

What black people want is irrelevant. This isn't about race, it's about a socialist con. It's always a socialist con.

[@kirbymaster5]

"America has been a fundamentally racist country since it's inception, but also please vote for the country's most long-lived political party or else the country will never get less racist."

[@KopperNeoman]

"Vote for the one surviving party out of the two made by the founders, who by the way were literally Hitler and not merely Worse Than Britain you fascist"

[@Deadman6]

No, the party that freed the slaves is actually the super racist one now. Not the one that instigated racism for centuries and only seemingly stopped within the past few decades.

[@nautdead3197]

If you don't you ain't Black

[@Garrus1995]

“America is racist, vote for the party of slave owners and the KKK in order to make it better!”

[@remyllebeau77]

Also we are the party of slavery and every racist part of the past, but we changed because we said so, so just believe us. And don't count how many racist democrat politicians became republican, and don't realize that as the South became less racist, it became MORE republican.

[@psychegoddessoflight9358]

Still waiting for more of my black brethren to acknowledge the other side of the privilege coin. Back in the 90s, I was granted admission and incredibly generous grants to attend my first choice college, which would've been denied to my white peers with the same high school GPA & SATs. I've always had the privilege of knowing I have an excellent chance of getting the job bc of my skin color (+ female privilege). I used the guilt and self doubt that comes from this unearned privilege to "prove myself" and excel in those endeavors...but yeah, being a black/brown lady comes with benefits, too. Denying or minimizing that privilege does the fight for equality more harm than good. TRUTH is the only viable way forward, and truth is complex & nuanced & often ugly & uncomfortable.

[@cogline9]

I'm so sick of hearing phrases like "we need to have a conversation" or "bringing awareness". Especially when the folks bringing up whatever issue they're focused on don't actually want to discuss it. They just want to force feed your their views.

[@NicholasBrakespear]

That's what they mean by awareness; that you should become aware that they're right and you're wrong.

[@randomduck8679]

A conversation with the white people they refuse to talk to

[@markzuckergecko621]

Yep, not talking about race enough. That's the problem. Needs to be absolutely every conversation, ever. That'll definitely solve it.

[@ghostofalltime4934]

And it definitely is a conversation, not a crazed rant at you by the rich and privileged.

[@raydragerns3657]

Reasonable dude: This anti white rhetoric is creating a backlash Karen:THIS IS WHY WE DONT EVEN ENGAGE WITH WHITE MEN oh, irony.

[@Winasaurus]

I remember hearing that the people who push for this kind of social justice have the issue that if they succeed, they're out of a job, and if they fail, it's a bad event. So instead they succeed, and then just pretend they haven't, so that way they still have a job and get to ride high on acting so justly. It would be like, if after world war 2, america kept troops stationed in Germany, checking cars for weapons and trucks for war supplies. And then when it's pointed out "The war is over, you won.", they say "One part of the war is over. But the nazis are still a big issue in this country." and just kept doing what they were doing. Guys, when it comes to racism in the USA, you've won. You won years ago. Martin Luther King won that. But instead they're just pretending to have not so they get to act all high and mighty in doing the "right" thing. Saying racism is an issue in the USA today is like saying smallpox is an issue in europe. In the grand scale of it, not really. Edit: And then SFO mentions it the acting like it's not fixed to ride high thing, based. Also, nothing is worse than people who just use all those buzzwords, because they're clearly just meant to get SOY YASS QUEEN SOY clapping and not actually DO anything. Like when the guy makes a good point and she goes goes "Racist alt-right dogwhistle??" and the crowd roars. And keeps going on about "starting a conversation" and "it's something we really need to talk about", no, we don't. And even if it was a relevant issue, we shouldn't talk about it, we should DO something about it. Which we did. By ending slavery. And hilarious she says "If white men wanted to do something about racism, they've had 400 years", uhh yeah, we have, ever open a history book? Ever open your eyes anywhere outside of twitter or prog convos like this? Do you see slaves being whipped in the fields? Seperate bathrooms for the races? Black people being forced into the worst manual labor jobs because they were assumed too stupid to do more? Oh yeah you see none of that. Thanks, white men.

[@Queltzer]

Great WWII analogy, completely agreed

[@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302]

If you really wanna blow their mind you can point out that slavery was a human institution, practiced in every major civilization from the Roman Empire, the Egyptians, African Tribes, to Chinese Dynasties. However, the first worldwide abolitionist movement is notably the British Empire's abolishment of slavery within the empire in 1833, an economic undertaking so massive that the debts for said freedom were not fully paid off until 2015. The Brits ending slavery within the empire destroyed any real market for the slave trade in Europe, leading to other countries abolishing the practice soon after. Then those European immigrants who came from abolitionist countries immigrated to America, bringing abolitionist ideals with them leading to the American civil war and the abolition of slavery in our country in 1865. So while slavery was a universal human institution, the impetus to abolish the practice worldwide started as a uniquely white endeavor. So yeah, thanks white people.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 Or ask them if they're ONLY opposed to slavery in the past, but they're fine with slavery in 2022? Because there are men, women, and children being sold as slaves in Libya right now. That woman sees herself as bravely fighting racism. 🙄🤦🏾‍♀️ But she's just cramming her face with food while Black women are sitting and eating at the same table. Thinking that's fighting racism is pretty racist. . . I'd be happy to share a table with anyone who wants to buy the food, most people would.

[@Winasaurus]

@@thisismyyoutubecommentacco6302 While I would love to do that, I'm british, and so popping off about how the british abolished slavery first and pushed for it around the world might come off a bit too nationalistic and self-fellating. Also I would love to point out how the british didn't really establish an african slave trade, they simply joined into the one that already existed in africa, and in fact a lot of slave purchases were done for goods, and not through force, since it's easier to hand over pots and pans in return for people and gold than going to war over it. And it wasn't a hostile partnership, in fact, many places in africa have british judicial systems (complete with goofy wigs) because of the british influence deemed beneficial during the slave trade. Better than tribal justice.

[@debanydoombringer1385]

@@zxyatiywariii8 Slavery still exists in the US. The cartels smuggling the illegals in are fueling a lot of it. They bring them across, tell them they owe more money or they'll leave them in the desert to die. If they can't pay it, they'll put the men on farms, the women in prostitution, and sell the children to pay off the debt. Meanwhile these same people will scream racist if you want to try to stem the flow across the border. They cry about brown "bodies" while ignoring what's going on. The truth is, it's not about racism of any kind. The solution they will never tell you is to destroy the entire system and have a violent revolution. They just want money and power and they'll use whatever rhetoric they need to to get it.

[@Jeff-cn9up]

I'm not American, so I'm completely disinterested in this racialized, black focused nonsense that they are exporting to other cultures where it doesn't fit. But even if I was American, and not being a black person, I would not think it useful either, given that we're talking about outcomes of a fraction of a 12% American demographic, many of whom actually do from very well to the national average, given their individual talents and willingness to work. Until there is a cultural reform in the debilitating culture practiced by many of that ethnicity, as so eloquently and comprehensively laid out by people like Thomas Sowell, it is nobody else's problem to solve, as it can't be. It can only be solved by the individuals themselves, as is the classic American way. Frankly, they should be grateful for the opportunity America (at least now) extends to them, not resentful and falsely blaming other groups (looking for alternative advantage) because they fail of their own accord while there are so many of the exact same ethnicity and background who DO succeed because of the American philosophy. And the white people behind this foolishness are almost certainly doing far more harm than any possible potential good. They're essentially telling black people that they are inadequate, and again need white people to solve the problem for them. At least, that condescension is a large part of what I see, along with some weird virtue signal-guilt trip that I fully don't understand at all.

[@LordAlvastar]

I don't get why your presenting this point under a completely busted video.

[@Jeff-cn9up]

@@LordAlvastar The video worked fine for me from start to finish. Like I don't get what the issue is you're all talking about.

[@wraithlester1672]

As an American, I'm completely disinterested in racialized nonsense.

[@SkylineFTW97]

I am a black man in America. And these conversations are fundamentally dishonest. The problem is (and always has been) black culture itself. You're right about men like Sowell pointing those issues out in detail decades ago. Even decades before him, people like Booker T. Washington laid it out in detail. The only way the lives of black people en masse improve is if black culture either is dramatically altered or supplanted by the culture of the white majority. And although these whites may be well meaning, they're ultimately prolonging the problem.

[@darkspire6710]

@@LordAlvastar KZbin is fucked today, some videos work some don't, they probably screwed up another update... again...

[@kylelacey1212]

I held onto the belief that Jon Stewart was one of the few "good leftists". I adored him growing up and watching the Daily Show and when he went off the show I hated the show but what I need to realize is Jon has always been like this, it's me who has changed. I used to be a full blown tankie back in the day, it shouldn't come as a surprise that I find the people who still buy into this shit no longer respectable. It's not that they changed, it's that I did. It's painful but eh, good to know I suppose.

[@solan7978]

You give me hope that there actually some hard leftists who will come to see the sheer evil and insanity of their doctrine.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

then you are a fool, Jon is fully on board with all the wokisms, he holds incredible guilt in his heart, as a white man, and as a jewish man he will hold you to it.

[@EstebanGunn]

I find it ironic that anyone on the so-called "left" would be for wokism, since it's a byproduct of the wealthy and privileged bourgeois and will only hinder as opposed to help a workers revolution with solidarity among the working class. We've gone from workers of the world unite to races of the world divide. Now who does that benefit?

[@03e-210a]

@@keithfilibeck2390 It is kind of pathetic to see him flip flop between using the jewish and the white identity card

[@davidbeddoe6670]

@@keithfilibeck2390 Jon Stewert predates the establishment woke. He strikes me as treading water in a new paradigm he's secretly alienated by, almost as much as we are, only he's spent 30 years welding himself to it.

[@holidaytrout5174]

16:45 "white people have to talk about it" "it's bad when white men talk about it" you can't have both these things

[@thecompareablezombie]

Its funny, Logical minded men can stand together of all groups and move forward. Any man who caused troubles when it comes to Racism are likely more emotional than logical.

[@nej2147]

sure you can... if you don't consider "white men" to be "people", like the racist and sexist b-word does.

[@ivercingetorix1367]

These word games are all a narcissistic power play. They know they could specify exactly how they're using their terms, but then you wouldn't be on edge, confused, or bound to their whims. If they gave you a precise definition, you might be able to understand it yourself and maybe even refute it. It's a shell game.

[@kentonkruger8333]

I would argue that most left wing politics of the last 40 years (maybe more) has largely been word games, and for that same reason. Ever-shifting definitions and "acceptable" words and descriptions, partly to delineate who is on the right team, largely to confuse/blur the issue when debating opponents so conversations can be derailed. It's been ever more obvious the last several years where any discussion tends to get bogged down in arguing what is what ("That is/isn't CRT" for example) rather than arguing the policy or action at issue until the right wing person says something that can be construed as some sort of -ist or -ism, then it becomes all about their character. As for the woman on this panel, she has clearly taken the pigeon playing chess tactic, where it's just spew and spew and spew until the other person gives up and walks away, then declare victory.

[@georgecisneros5281]

That’s the age old scourge of sophistry for you.🙄

[@maximus4765]

You Are Based. Sophists should be crucified

[@ivercingetorix1367]

@@kentonkruger8333 The entirety of Leftist philosophy since the 1700s has been one collosal #WomanMoment

[@kentonkruger8333]

@@MidlifeCrisisJoe My argument against that is there are other times where they want to hyper narrow things down to such a minutia of difference when it suits their purpose. Of course no one thing or rule applies across the board for all things, but I'd argue that it's intentional way more than not.

[@PaulvonOberstein]

The word "racism" implies intent, so calling it "lingering racism" implies lingering intent. "Lingering inequality" or something like that makes more sense.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Really good way to put this.

[@shaguar6439]

Something that still baffles my brain, these small minded people keep saying systematic racism, as if Obama never got elected like what the hell

[@runreilly]

VP Harris and recent the Supreme Court nominee were the highest forms of affirmative action in US history.

[@deltagearadvanced5140]

To them it's a one time fluke and they'd much rather use short term things to gain term power or influence to push things. Black panther was the "First black super hero ever in movies".... Blade... Spawn... Captain Marvel was the "First ever" as well... Knock knock! Black widow and Wonder woman calling in, they not count? The starwars trilogy with Rey being the first main female character... Princess Leia would love a chat. Obama? Ha! They won't bring him up at all ever if another black individual runs for president in the next decade and he'll be the new "first ever" i bet you.

[@nova_supreme8390]

Something something controlled opposition. Something something white supremacy.

[@brian8507]

There is no sound. Why would u comment? Are these fake comments?

[@viscountrainbows6452]

We must be really bad at being a racist country, letting all these non-Whites become successful 😅

[@SaberInferno]

Well damn, I've been waiting on that privilege to activate for me. These people lose people like me that are just working 40 hrs a week with a racial mix of coworkers. Absolutely none of us talk about this crap, we all hate the government and we want to be heard more and understood from the upper management that is also racially diverse.

[@shanweeboy]

Your card got lost in the mail perhaps?

[@SaberInferno]

@@shanweeboy Think so, gotta put in for another

[@GodOfPlague]

I don't know the older I get the less I care about being heard. I just really want to be left alone.

[@MALICEM12]

@@GodOfPlague maybe, but putting one's head in the sand changes nothing.

[@GodOfPlague]

@@MALICEM12 not putting my head In The sand at all. I just truly wish to be left to myself to do what I wish and let others do the same. The problem is others disagree with this sentiment and wish to constantly bother me with their bull crap. I makes me cranky I say. 😠

[@japanesehercules]

It legit angers me to see one of my liberal heroes stab liberalism in the back just so he can sit with the cool kids. I will never fucking forgive you, Jon.

[@randygault4564]

On both sides. The number of actual liberals continues to shrink, while the extremists expand.

[@maxxor-overworldhero6730]

@@randygault4564 Please spare us the "both sides" bilge. There's been countless studies that show that the Left are the ones who are radicalizing, while the Right has become stable in their part of the spectrum. I think Dev even had a video on this once.

[@maximus4765]

He was never on your side.

[@johnwatts8346]

well theres a lesson for ya- dont have lib heroes, because libs are awful, and they always have been very very much including stewart, hes always been a total tw i t.

[@maxxor-overworldhero6730]

@@johannesstephanusroos4969 *_*sigh*_* Damn faulty Autocorrect.

[@Ahmenthi]

"Where's the movement? What has the talk done?" The movement is there, Dev. It's just going backwards. That's what happens when we talk about race. It becomes a blame game that fuels demonization in both directions. No apology is good enough and no amount of reparations, either monetarily or through policy, will be enough as long as there's any inequality (even when it's due to bad personal choices today and not in the past). Morgan Freeman is right. Stop talking about race. We talked about it and we changed the law. We are all equal under the law in terms of our immutable characteristics. Who isn't equal? The common rabble and the elites. That should be the focus. But they aren't smart enough to fight that battle, or they're the ones counting on keeping the poors in their place with color-based infighting.

[@SelfPityEntertainment]

They only do it because it makes them money. It reminds me of that one Boondocks episode that makes fun of Al Sharpton.

[@remyllebeau77]

Do we owe the 40 acres and a mule? I prefer these horrible people take the other part of that offer, a one way trip to Africa. And they can take Jon Stewart and the evil leftists with them.

[@TheSpecialJ11]

You ever notice that the race issue seemed to skyrocket after 2012...when Occupy Wall Street happened?

[@ethanhinton4549]

They always talk about a "conversation", and you pointed out how they say this despite the "conversation" happening constantly. But another thing is that they DON'T want a real conversation. Conversations are dialouges, exchanges of words and ideas between 2 or more parties. But whenever a dissenting voice calls out in these "conversations" the hackivists becomes incensed and try to silence those voices. They want you to listen to their monolouges.

[@typhonviserys8288]

"We want a conversation." Translation: "WE WANT TO LECTURE LOUDLY INTO YOUR FACE AND FOR YOU TO SIT AND TAKE IT!!!"

[@danmann861]

Well considering her organisations whole scheme is literally telling women how awful they are for profit. Yeap, something tells me she doesn’t really want a conversation. I have nothing but disdain for that woman. She is literally spreading sickness for profit.

[@spaghettisama]

My mom taught me the "umbrella game" when I was a kid. It was a game where one person gave an idea, thing, concept, just said something, and it was the other person's challenge to relate it back to umbrellas. So you'd get like... "Luxury sofas" and then you'd respond with "luxury sofas, leather, cows, animals, outside, rain, umbrella.", and I quickly realised that you can do this with pretty much anything. The whole anti-racism conversation is the exact same thing. You take anything and just jump from semi-related subject to subject until you end up at "racism"/"white supremacy".

[@Xplora213]

It’s the root of JBP’s commentary about ideological possession. The deeper irony is the possibility that you pay 60-80 grand in the USA to be indoctrinated into this garbage… nothing says privilege like wasting your education and life opportunities to hate yourself.

[@tepafray]

There's an inherent problem with most activism that it inevitably must either fail to achieve their goals or be wrong about everything, becoming impotent in its efforts. What I've noticed many modern activists have engaged in to get around this, is (If there's a real name for this I'd like to know) "Standalone Falacy". It goes like this: I am fighting "society", and thus my attitudes and those associated with my cause cannot be said to be part of society. This no matter how much "progress" I make, everyone who has changed is associated with my cause, and what's left of "society" is just as bigoted as always, even if literally half of what once was that society has now joined my cause.

[@SouthernGothicYT]

I'd call it being perpetually defiant. No matter which way the pendulum swings, even in your favor, you're still not satisfied.

[@RowanProductions]

Because their ultimate goal is complete control. So long as even part of society is able to succeed without needing to adopt the ideas of the activist, it renders them and their life's work irrelevant, leading to irreconcilable resentment so long as practically anything exists in opposition to their worldview. They're fighting a constant battle they can never truly win.

[@jdraven0890]

I read a psychological study from the time era about the 1960s Leftwing radical movement(s). It correctly predicted that once its goals were met, and the counterculture became normalized, it would cease to be the activist force that had been.

[@rwberger6]

Thats what happens when you have no clearly defined goals, only vague causes.

[@tepafray]

@@SouthernGothicYT I'd challenge that on the note they always act like the pendulum is swung away from them. Being perpetually defiant sounds more like, "Yes its on our side, but I want it to swing further our way"

[@hot_dogg]

"This is why we need to talk about racism" followed by "This is why me and my community ignore white men entirely" sounds like this lady doesn't want to talk she just wants everyone to obey

[@scienceface8884]

Not even obey, just keep paying to have this "conversation" with her at $2500 per person. She NEEDS wealthy white women to think that America is a racist country because that's the crux of her grift.

[@nunayoorbidnez2119]

Dev, this is as much a problem with female passive aggressive nature as anything else. Women love to bully people with shaming tactics.

[@unnamed715]

"yOu JuSt HaTe WoMeN!!!!" Honestly they make it pretty damn hard to like a majority of them.

[@someguy4405]

Modern women in western countries. It’s not natural, they’re just taught to.

[@lunamaria8788]

Female nature has been properly suppressed in multiple cultures for a reason. This is but one result of not keeping it in check, or allowing it to run rampant with unchecked power.

[@thomascolabella5757]

I always think back to the White Feathers in regards to female privilege. Women can force men into doing anything, and they do, purely through passive aggressive bullying.

[@Sigurther]

@@unnamed715 hate them? No. Like them? Also no. Not all, mind you, but enough. XD

[@gnerkus]

9:24 "I don't think this woman's ever been told 'no' in her entire life..." Given her girth, such a fact may be deduced with ease.

[@GodOfPlague]

Girth? She's about to give birth to a baby beluga.

[@Torvar]

What Jon? Kidnapped from Africa? They were bought. Creating slave for life contracts was not legal in the United States. It was ruled legally, that the slave for life contract was established under African law.

[@maxxor-overworldhero6730]

Of course, not when the Irish were the subject in question. Their indentured servitude just _conveniently_ ended up more often than not nigh-unpayable debt.

[@KopperNeoman]

Before Republican abolition, US slavery law tended to skirt at "as much as Britain will let us get away with." It took until the civil war for the wolves to stop being afraid of the armed lamb, and vote democratically to have slavery for dinner.

[@Torvar]

@@KopperNeoman Yea, slavery is bad. The south was fighting government overreach. Slavery wasn't the hill to die on though.

[@BeukendaalMason]

Shhh, then the racist "anti-racists" would realize that not everything is the problem of White people.....

[@Paxchi]

That bit of wordplay always annoys me. The idea is that Europeans and Americans were just traveling to Africa, going out and having slave catching parties, and then going back to their countries. They ignore that the reason it was called the African Slave Trade was because it was Africans enslaving each other and selling said slaves to other tribes, and then once outsiders came, to those outsiders. Hell, one of the specialty of the African Barbary Pirates was white slaves. I am in no way defending slavery, but they idea that these people were stolen from their homeland or that slavery is any kind of uniquely black condition is just ridiculous. These people were enslaved in their homelands and would have been slaves in Africa if they hadn't been sold to other nations.

[@colonelkenpachi5009]

I hate when people say "well black people were stolen from africa" No, they weren't, they were sold out by they're own people. There is a reason why it was called the slave trade.

[@user-ke3sk6jd3h]

Legitimately didn't learn this until highschool, and it was a big ordeal to let the teacher teach it. I thought every slave was from a roots situation.

[@josedorsaith5261]

And look at the % of whites who owned slaves Vs the % of Jews who owned slaves

[@andybaer8]

Dev, fish the mic out of whatever orifice it's in

[@techraven]

There's audio? I tried all the streams and audio up as loud as it goes.. silence

[@kkplx]

@@techraven same

[@tonyyoung8477]

Why is audio bad?

[@anonimettalontana4944]

No problem on my end 🤧

[@lemond2007]

Every woke person ever: We have so much more work to do. We're just trying to start a conversation. We need to raise awareness. We need to do better.

[@doubt_]

Hey SFO, thanks for making some really great videos recently.

[@runreilly]

He's not gonna sleep with you.

[@doubt_]

@@runreilly Thank god for small favors.

[@Ranatosk]

Morgan Freeman put it simply on the whole racism discourse in addition to his stance on Black History month being stupid during his time on 60 Minutes: “You want to stop racism? Stop talking about it!”

[@mrcliff3709]

Exactly or teach everyone the golden rule

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

This is the one where the *TV night show host* says "I didn't have a full family and I turned out fine" isn't it? I fucking lost it.

[@darunealbane]

When they use power and privilege as a definition for racism .. it is to excuse their own racism

[@ZontarDow]

I always find socialist jews to be confusing given Mussolini's fascist Italy was the only instance in history of a socialist government being in power that didn't single out jews for discrimination and even that was only because Mussolini rejected the concept of jews being a group to begin with and saw them as just more Italians to be part of his state's apparatus.

[@galahad3195]

Mussolini: _technically_ the least monstrous of the Axis leaders, but only because he was too incompetent to orchestrate an industrial genocide without getting his ass beat by his intended victims.

[@ZontarDow]

@@galahad3195 It's more the fact that for whatever reason his style of fascism targets individuals who are seen as enemies of the state rather then entire groups because said groups are, at the ideological level, rejected as even existing by his ideology. Can't exactly target an ethnic group if you believe it doesn't exist to begin with, which is why he massacred far fewer people then Stalin or Hitler.

[@ComicGladiator]

It seems to be a weird, self destructive blind spot, that is repeated again and again.

[@MALICEM12]

Marx was a Jew, Lenin was a Jew, Trotsky was a Jew. Communism/ Marxist-Socialism were born from Jews, so it's shouldn't be confusing. No don't throw fascism/Nazism into that same pile.

[@pacodibolo]

Stewart isn't the worst when discussing class or the economy, but he is self-flagellating cancer when it comes to race issues. You're not wrong in saying he'd benefit from a dose of his own crossfire medicine.

[@rationalbacon5872]

Except you can't ever critique the liebowitzs of the world

[@pacodibolo]

@@rationalbacon5872 You can, it's just that the Jon Stewarts of the world will liken you to a nazi when you do.

[@kingofcards9]

I agree with everything you just said.

[@ickyconcrete5370]

Probably the most cohesive arguements he's put forward to date.

[@dookieshoe2905]

Idk, I found his arguments somewhat lacking.

[@jerrymartin7019]

I can't believe dev would say something so heinous!

[@kingofcards9]

@@jerrymartin7019 you mean so based.

[@alexisleskinen6090]

He do be spittin' faxx doe

[@CWB342]

I saw the article from the guy that went on. He had known Stewart before, felt it was a trap, went in good faith, and got attacked. It's a pretty good article.

[@IapitusMcHeimer]

Watching your intro with no music playing was one of the most surreal experiences I have had

[@Noperare]

>"It is time to talk about racism" >Checks "Early life" Yup, as usual.

[@Dolshadow]

Man, I love when he said that thing.Really Was an eye opener for me.

[@zynski3451]

'We need to discuss this.' Guy brings up counterpoint. 'THE DISCUSSION IS OVER.'

[@jcf2103]

Watching that crossfire clip and it can all apply to him now. He has lived long enough to become the villain.

[@BruhMoment-fr4zr]

Nah, you just lived long enough to see him take the mask off, Jon Leibowitz has always had a severe disdain for white America.

[@danieldorn2927]

He was always the villain.

[@chrisw207]

These people live by one truth: if it isn't perfectly fair they have an excuse not to do better or even try at all.

[@k96man]

Been awhile since I've seen you in a comment section

[@MaxAngor]

Plus you've got Chipman's book to review. Finally. God damn that was a shitshow from our mail systems.

[@somethingsomething8511]

Fighting racism of the past with racism of the future. What could possibly go wrong.

[@TheRedBaron1917]

You cant even make it up a flight of stairs without getting winded, but you'll race to the dinner table

[@KrytoRift]

I feel like it was moving forward in the 70s, 80s and 90s and then anyone who wasn't born before 2000, doesn't realize this and thinks they have discovered something new

[@BuckROCKGROIN]

They need a pretense to cut down the tall grass. A tyrant will always find a pretext for their tyranny.

[@dfmrcv862]

This whole """"conversation"""" was a pain. The one right-winger couldn't get any real points across, either because he wasn't sure how to word them or because he was actively being interrupted. Everyone clapping made it worse, and it felt like John Stewart trying to pat himself on the back.

[@remyllebeau77]

He wasn't on the right, didn't you hear him? He said he was worried about a backlash that would get more republicans elected and undo the good the democrats think they are doing.

[@dfmrcv862]

@@remyllebeau77 oh cool. So he didn't even have someone who could properly present the points of the opposition.

[@remyllebeau77]

@@dfmrcv862 Pretty much. They couldn't even handle his level of dissent.

[@AGoatDemon98]

That's been every episode of the Daily Show

[@earthboundkid1]

Dev who pushed and called for the crack laws to be harsher for black people? If you look into it it was the black community not the white community who pushed and called for the laws to around crack to be harsher/ the way the currently are because it was a unique problem to/for their community.

[@Sines314]

Hah, I forgot about that. I'm sure some laws were made harsher to punish blacks more (The Democrats back then being probably just as awful as they are now). But this isn't one of them.

[@afgone]

There were black people who wanted drug dealers to get the death penalty for all the damage they were causing to the communities. Also, isn't crack way more dangerous than regular cocaine? Crack is back alley dirty cooked cocaine into smokable rocks - that seems way more dangerous than the regular stuff, which is already pretty dangerous.

[@Sines314]

What I want to ask these people, is when will you know you've won? The obvious answer would be for when skin color gets no more special notice than hair color. When it's just not any more important than any other aspect of your appearance. But how will we get there, if we don't stop talking about race, and making it a big deal? "Just stop talking about it" from Morgan Freeman really is the answer. And whenever someone brings it up (except as an aesthetic detail) society will look at them like they're a weirdo who just said you can't trust people with blue eyes. Of course, even then, that wouldn't be enough for them. Because even if society is perfectly egalitarian, the butterfly effect of racism from 500 years ago would still apply. After all, if we can't move past Jim Crow two generations later, what's to stop them complaining about it three generations later? Four? Five? Perhaps after they've flaggelated non-racist white people unto the seventh generation, they'd finally be happy. But anyone with half a brain knows that's not how it works. You can't insult and berate people for crimes their ancestors committed and not have them turn around and realize the crimes are being committed against them now. And so a cycle of violence continues. Forgiveness isn't just. It requires the harmed to give up something of himself, not the person who did the harm. And yet, forgiveness is the only thing that stops the cycle. These people cannot forgive, and they cannot forget. And so they will always be a threat to peace. As long as they are given platforms, rather than being looked at as the crazy, and sometimes dangerous people that they are, we cannot have a healthy society.

[@elliottgaal9774]

Of course they won't forgive. Its not in their nature as that would also mean they understand concepts such as trust, loyalty and compassion.

[@grapefruitpineapple7667]

So o

[@Auriorium]

How long till being a "racist" falls into the same category as being a Jew in 1930 Germany? Because I can already see the progs demanding you produce chart proving that your parents and grandparents weren't racist.

[@culturewarsdiplomacy]

“We don’t have this conversation now shut up and listen to my speech and agree with me White man”.

[@LeoVital]

I hope you focus more and more on these kind of videos, Dev. I personally am not interested in watching your gaming streams (nothing personnel, kiddo, they're just not for me), but I love your videos in which you analyze the internet weirdoes like Vaush et al.

[@wun1gee]

"BUT THIS THING 200 YEARS AGO!!!" Basically the only argument they have...

[@QueenAleenaFan]

I would wager two things about Whalimus Karenus here: 1. She's never been told no. 2. Her dad was absent from her life, and never taught her that respect isn't 'everyone in the room instantly agreeing with you'.

[@jimass13]

I want to address the "crack vs cocaine" thing. The reason crack is more heavily criminalized than cocaine is that crack is more associated with gang violence then cocaine. Most of the violence associated with cocaine happens in South America where it's produced. The sentencing guidelines for meth for example are similar to crack, even though the vast majority of people caught dealing/using meth are white.

[@117Ender]

the crack cocaine laws having different sentencing was due to black community leaders pushing for crack to have higher sentencing... its no the 1 to 1 dev thinks, cause the black leaders said they want harsher laws, now you can argue well they made the wrong call but the the crack/coke thing is just how community leaders who spoke out to politicians wanted things, its the same with why did blm in like 2015 want police body cams and 3 yrs later say police body cams bad....

[@SkylineFTW97]

Exactly. When you watch street pushers destroy your kid's lives with crack in between the gang violence that kills them over 20x as often as muh racist police, you're gonna want to clamp down on it with extreme prejudice. I'm black myself. I wouldn't tolerate the level of fuckery that goes on in the average inner city neighborhood. I'd either demand drastic change to curb crime or leave. And no other suburban black family would either. The reason that cops are more numerous and aggressive in these poor black neighborhoods is because that's where the overwhelming majority of the crime comes from. And it's gonna keep coming from there until the culture changes

[@sdfabctr]

so right off the bat... Whenever you want to have a conversation about how to improve a community it's always a good idea to completely gloss over what the people IN THE COMMUNITY can do to fix what they can... Just always a good idea. If I have a problem I shouldn't try to figure out what I can do to resolve it or at least mitigate it. No I should wait patiently for a third party to come in and resolve it for me. Just excellent always sound advice thank you jon stewart and the white savior panel of the magnificently out of touch magnates of caucacity.

[@Sines314]

We don't think of Irish and Italians being an oppressed minority in the states anymore. Because they did something about it. The Irish in particular, tired of being called lazy law-breakers, became cops. The opposite of what they were said to be. It wasn't fair that they had to go that far to change how people saw them... but it worked. It worked a hell of a lot more than complaining about 60 year-old injustices ever will.

[@sdfabctr]

@@Sines314 even now policing is one of the most diverse professions. A lot of black people are doing the same and becoming police officers and this sort of thing has a noticeable positive effect but no just let 3 entitled douchebags so far separated from it all talk a whole lot without really saying anything and THAT'S the solution.

[@jamesflowers1295]

Okay, right before the video started I had a really loud add. I tried to skip it and dropped the phone, and *FUCKING PANICKED* when the audio wasn't playing. Whhhooooo, boy was I glad I read the comments and saw the audio wasn't working for most people.

[@nej2147]

also, it will even allow playback on most devices when the screen is "turned off"

[@TheMulletOperator_77]

13:50 The reason crack has more severe punishments than powdered cocaine is, because of the prevalence of violence. Meth (a drug used by more white people) has a similar sentence rate. The charges differ due to the behaviors associated with the drugs.

[@limelightraver5690]

I totally approve of that clever little jab at John Stewart you put in the thumbnail referencing his famous or in hindsight infamous “Rally To Restore Sanity” and infamous now because he has done a complete 180 abandoning the principles he used to hold dear or should I say pretended he held dear. This was the guy who used to call out these woke nutcases is back in the day for playing “The boy who cried racism” about everything, those were his exact words and he rightly pointed out back then that if left-wingers kept doing that then eventually no one was gonna believe them or give a shit about “racism” in the long run. He may have forgotten that he once said that but I have not and never will.

[@existinginaspace8347]

Been saving this one for morning. For some reason Devs level headed and grounded in reality takes hit home stronger in AM eastern hours

[@maryhildreth754]

Here is the question that is never asked and needs to be answered; What does society look like when systemic racism is wiped out, what are the day to day differences in function, structure and culture? What I want is an explanation of exactly what society will be like.

[@typhonviserys8288]

Naw. That's an end goal. Can't have that. Gotta keep up the hustle.

[@hithro5466]

For some reason KZbin thinks this is a stream not a video. Hope it doesn’t get taken down before I can watch it.

[@deon6045]

Can we be real here? Stop talking to these people. They had their chance; they made their choice, and their choice is for evil. What good has a dialogue with these people ever actually done? As much as we may wish with all our inner being that they would change and come to their senses, it's not our job. If anything, it seems to me that the time we waste on them could be better allocated to something else, such as exploring actual solutions. Actions speak louder than words, so why meet the sophist on his own terms?

[@lutze5086]

It's not like every kid being indoctrinated with this nonsense is making an evil choice, they're being force fed one side of the arguments and taught questioning any of the reasoning is itself evil. I had some of these ideas until I came across this kind of dialogue

[@deon6045]

@@lutze5086 I think you may misunderstand what I mean. Was the dialogue you came across like the televised incident in SFO's video, or his video addressing the foolishness of it? I'm more than fine with the latter -- make no mistake. The problem is that those ideologues in the tv clips are something of a lost cause, and humoring them like the other man did probably only serves to make them more powerful. They didn't care about anything that came out of his mouth; he was simply there to be ridiculed and shamed in front of an audience. What value is there in that?

[@lutze5086]

@@deon6045 ah yeah sure I did misinterpret, I see this video it as SFO "talking to these people". If he had the opportunity to be on a panel like this do you think he should take it? I do think having this panel including the opposition is better than a panel without, you aren't trying to convince the panel, you're talking to the audience

[@deon6045]

​@@lutze5086 If I saw a situation where this kind of thing turned out to be worthwhile, I may change my mind. However, I consider the fact that the opposing guest wasn't free to make effective arguments or points because of who was controlling the conversation. Where that would be the case, I do not think SFO should. That, to me, seems counter productive, whereas his usual content does far more good.

[@lutze5086]

@@deon6045 i don't know if I agree with you there. He was poorly treated and used as a scapegoat but still acted reasonably, he had a (limited) chance to speak and not be completely misrepresented with editing and such. Better than a complete echo chamber. SFOs regular content is much better I do agree but he's preaching to the choir here, an appearance would reach a wider audience and might send some curious people his way, even if the original intention is just to hate/spite watch

[@checkyoursixgaming]

Every time I see Jon Stewart now I realize he didn't age well. In both literal and figurative sense. I remember watching him 15 years ago and he looks ancient now somehow literally. His jokes and sense of politics certainly hasn't aged well either. As for the video: Racism is prejudice based on race. It is literally believing a persons race is a factor in why that person is inferior or lacking. Here is an example of something not racist and something that is. Saying that black males are more likely to be better basketball players based on the statistics that there are more successful black male basketball players than any other race is not racism. Looking at a random white dude and saying he can't jump because he's white is racist. it was the forming of a prejudice based on the statistical fact of the previous statement that makes the second one racist. Pointing out that black students score lower on average in most scholastic metrics is not racist. Thinking any random black person is just dumb is racist. It's the preconceived prejudice based upon race that leads to a discriminatory thought process and actions. Anything else of a definition is pure stupidity. Also, Jon Stewart's portrayal of how black people in America got here is completely wrong. Its the horrible Kunte Kinte movie Roots, which depicts actions not actually done in history for how black slaves arrived in America. They were a commodity back then and treated as such. The white slave merchants bought them from black slave merchants. Why would they need to go chasing after people to round up as slaves that would fight back and potentially kill them when they could just buy them cheaply in the first place? Most of those being sold were from conquered tribes that had been slaves generationally in Africa already. They were already taught to be slaves since birth. Making a "new" slave is so much more difficult in time and money than just buying one that already has been trained since birth. I am not saying I am promoting the process or that the whole thing wasn't dehumanizing. I am saying the brutality and actions done in the past during that specific point in history was not depicted correctly by that movie and others like it. However, everyone I know grew up watching movies like Roots in school and got a skewed understanding of events of the past because of that. Next, slavery was only a SMALL part of American history. Certain people want to blow it up far more than it was like Jon Stewart and that fat lady. Out of the original 13 colonies, 12 of them in their Constitutions for states already banned ownership of slaves. When more southern states were added, slavery was expanded because of some of those states. Even then, only the wealthiest of families had them. Another thing to note is that during this time period and for a long time after, black people were not legal immigrants to this country. However, there certainly a lot of white immigrants which almost none of them were slave owners. Next is something that most people also don't know. Black people in America that can trace this family history back to being slaves also tend to have white DNA mixed in because of interracial couplings that did happen back then. A lot of slave owners got jiggy with a lot of slaves back then. More black people in America can trace their family ancestry back to a slave owner than white people can. The common DNA tests people have been using for years have shown this statistic. Which is why I laugh at the whole idea of reparations. Any given black person in the US are far more likely to have been related to a slave owner than any given white person. More so if you can trace their ancestry back to Africa where slavery has always been huge and still is today. Finally, that fat lady is the epitome of what is wrong in America today.

[@lorblauh]

I heard him mention somewhere that he's vegan now.

[@masterphillips]

That moment on crossfire I believe is what helped to create the Tucker we see today. Equal and opposite reactions, Jon.

[@bvoyelr]

One quibble: the only conversations I ever hear are conversations about having a conversation. What is a specific problem, and what's the solution to that problem? And "systemic racism" isn't specific enough. Give me a policy that harms black people and let's talk about it. But nooo. It's always, "we need to TALK about it. Why can't we just have this conversation? It's important that the conversation take place so we can progress as a society to a time where we don't have to converse about it anymore." Give me a break. Just TALK ABOUT IT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. You're *ON THEH SHOW*. You have the floor. GOOOOO!

[@williambenton9959]

Did Jon Stewart of all people really just try to "my fellow white people" us?

[@lastremain7867]

This is why KZbin needs to make the Dislike counter public again.

[@trevorp8124]

I often get the sense that the language employed is deliberately hyperbolic to rile people up. When the vast majority of people hear the phrase "white supremacy", they think cross burning, they think lynching, they think horrible viscerally emotional stuff that wrenches your heart. Then you find out "Nah when I say white supremacy I mean that the majority white society that's been historically majority white since its inception is primarily structured with white as the default" (see: how every society to ever exist, ever, is structured. Show me an African country where black isn't the default, or an Asian country where Asian isn't the default.). So not only are you sort of lying to people, you're also invoking moral failure of complete strangers pretty much as the default state of their existence in a society they have no broader control over. So a lot of people, most sane people, perceive that as being a sanctimonious shitheel, and will let you know. I think this movement would have had a lot more momentum if it had known to chill out a bit with its framing, rather than present everything outside its purview as distilled malevolence that needs to be obliterated. It attracts fanatics, not intellectuals, not planners or administrators. You've fostered a movement of overly emotional crazy people.

[@timeforamazingchest5271]

Yes, there's a reason there are no appeals to moderacy or any attempts to dial down rhetoric, and that's because it's nothing but propaganda in which some groups and companies constantly try to one-up each other to get that sweet sweet Blackrock ESG funding. Toning down the rhetoric or solving the problem is against their interests.

[@georgecisneros5281]

It’s called “sophistry”, and it’s a well over 2500 year old method (and subculture) of sociopolitical deception.😒

[@Smileyhat]

There's a specific argumentative "technique," for lack of a better word, called a motte and bailey. It's basically where you're trying to push an argument that many might find questionable, but when someone tries to press them on that argument, they retreat into a different argument or definition of that argument that is more defensible. I think that's what's going on here. People will throw out widespread accusations of white supremacy and racism, relying on the emotional weight that lies in the common understanding of those terms to grant their arguments power. But when you try to argue with them on this, they'll retreat back to their "softer" definitions of the two terms to try to make it seem as if what they're accusing people of isn't so bad and it's really nicer than you think.

[@Arassar]

Oh, it attracts plenty of people who THINK they are "intellectuals" - just look at that Critical Race Theory book compiled by Kimberle Crenshaw. You can tell that they ALL think their shit doesn't stink.

[@thefool8224]

@NorseViking84 .and only they are capable of seeing those monsters, but they get angry if you even dare to question their existence

[@kaiservenom270]

It'll be never be enough.

[@gnerkus]

Are we being distracted? It's obvious Jon and friends are not debating in good faith so there's another purpose to this 'discussion'. Jon and friends are trying to keep our eyes from other issues.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

Jon is never that high on the table to get the ideological push, he's the refuse, the garbage dump, the end result of all the subversion.

[@johns.1854]

I wish I had more upvotes for this video. SFO, your voice is one of reason and compassion.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

Yea there’s a reason why crack has a higher sentence, because the drug is far more destructive than regular coke.

[@Trent-m6j]

Right? Like, who lobbied for those sentences? The black churches trying to administer charity to an ever growing number of people in horrific condition, zombified and randomly violent and wandering the streets, and being overwhelmed by it. If the 70s and 80s coke epidemic had left zombies wandering the suburbs, we'd have cracked down on it harder. Also, freebase (what whites called crack) existed during that epidemic of drug abuse, and just wasn't that prevalent. It was an experiment your nerdy friend wanted to try, so you made it one night and tried it and decided it wasn't worth the effort. Nobody saw the potential in mass producing it, and boiling up a single use amount is too much of a process to do in a nightclub bathroom, so it just didn't take off. It's when it hit a community with a lot of despondent young men (fatherlessness, bad childhoods) who were largely on the edge of poverty anyway, that the destructive potential of crack was realized.

[@queen_alexandra996]

Thank god I'm not the only one, the video has no sound and I legit thought I was losing it

[@nilok7]

Someone needs to sit John down in front of his previous work and just ask him, "What have you been doing recently?"

[@joemayo1589]

things end. Not every aspect of the past is still in existence.

[@vla1ne]

11:59, jon is absolutely disingenuous here. He knows the topic of the discussion is about racism in *modern* times, and tries to inject jim crowe into the topic as a part of the statement against him (that statement being "i agree with you [jon] that jim crowe was definitely racism, but that is no longer a thing"). That is the most dishonest argument i have ever heard from jon, and it's disgusting that he would even try to win points among his trained seals for it.

[@yaboiportch]

_"I didn't come on this program to argue with white men!"_ *WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE THEN?*