Shorty 6.5 Creedmoor (16”)- Real world performance

[@jackwilliams7688]

Man. You are by far the only gun KZbin channel I’m looking forward to new videos of. Great work

[@coltcomphbar]

My buddy text me one of his zero videos last week. I had not heard if this channel at the time. Since then I have been “binge” watching his videos. Ifs a ton of great information. No BS

[@txpredatorhunting]

I’d be interested to see what it looks like on the chrono after some more rounds down the tube. That said we really developed that 135 a tip for longer barrels. Thinkin we can get those numbers better with a short barrel optimized offering. Regardless fantastic shooting and great content as always.

[@LastCaress7]

Literally watching your channel grow has been a real treat. Youre doing great man, keep up the good work.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Really appreciate the support! The channel has had a lot of growth recently and I’m very thankful. I’ve got a ton of new content in the works so hope you’ll continue tuning in! Also don’t forget to share with your buddies!

[@sickboy4029]

I had my 24" Savage 110 Tactical LH in 6.5 creedmoor cut down to 18.5" and rethreaded. Totally worth it.

[@romeofoxtrot363]

Curious how a 30” barrel would perform

[@joseocampo6754]

This convinced me to get a 16” 6.5 I was already thinking about it based on the benefits of a compact rifle, but kind of skeptical. Thank you for spending the time and money to make this awesome video

[@dannthorburnn]

The 135Atip is magic in my 65CM. 26” barrel pushing them around 2860. It seems to cheat the wind and stays supersonic to 1400+ Cool video

[@goosecouple]

Super. This guy goes straight to the point. No BS, no music.

[@ChadCooper03]

Awesome content! I’m a big fan of 16 inch 308/6.5cm with full size suppressor set ups. Makes it more manageable with all benefits of being suppressed.

[@willo7734]

I actually had a 16 inch 6.5 creedmoor Howa barreled action from Brownells. The velocities I saw weren’t as low as I thought they’d be. With handloads I could get a 140gr up to about 2550-2600. I ended up taking the barrel off and using the action for something else but I’ve thought about building another shorty Creedmoor.

[@theek.b]

Great shooting. There aren’t many videos about 16” 6.5cm so I appreciate it. Just recently ordered a Howa 1500 16.25” 6.5cm with heavy bull barrel a couple of weeks ago and that thing is incredible fun to shoot. Planning on removing the original hogue stock and putting on a xlr elemental 4.0 chassis and make it my primary backpack rifle for hunting.

[@brentpopiel7816]

135 Atip is an excellent bullet in 6.5cm. I’ve been very impressed with its performance at long range. Well worth the price and far and away one of the best in 6.5cm. Excellent videos!

[@NHBackcountryGuide]

Big shoutout to Ally Munitions. Those guys are great, great podcast, and I'm excited that they're sponsoring guys like you that continuously put out great content.

[@kcv5716]

Very impressive. I think people get tangled up with velocity differences vs target shooting. It's just fun seeing what the bullet can do.

[@AZMarine513]

My favorite barrel length for 5.56, 6.5CM and. 308 is 18". Great video and great shooting. Keep killing it.

[@kylesans9738]

I love long range shooting. I look forward to more of your videos. Very well explained and the detail you show is vary educational. Thank you

[@ryang8040]

I can make impacts on a steel 18x30 IPSC silhouette at 1200 yards with a 16 inch 6.5 CM AR 10 fairly easily. Still makes about 500 ft-lbs of energy at that range. So yeah, I'd say its effective.

[@tomi6261]

Literally KILLIN that target at 1025 yrds...split times were pretty incredible!!! Love your videos man!

[@2bNIKEt1]

I’m glad you’re talking through your holds cause I’ve never used mils and seeing it in practical use really helps

[@gregoriotapia4847]

You definitely change my mind. I bought the scar 17s in 6.5 creedmoor, and now I have good hopes on performance.

[@Grappler130]

I've been looking into building something like this for a while now. Thanks for making this video confirms a lot of theories I've had. Always shocked at how little FPS loss there is with 6.5 creed compared to other calibers.

[@LRRPFco52]

Most bottleneck centerfire cartridges don't lose much performance when you go with a shorter barrel.

[@Ninjaman-do5uk]

For reference, my handloaded 143gr ELDX is 2632fps. Factory is a little slower but I don't have hard data on it.

[@NoMatureContent]

One of my favourite long range shooting channels. I've actually taken a lot from your video's that has helped me improve my own shooting.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Really cool to hear you’re finding value in my videos! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned and share with your buddies.

[@caedontielking54]

Would absolutely love to see you on Texas Plinking 1 MOA challenge. Great content as always, continue to do great work.

[@frankopanklaric]

He is on the very first episode.

[@rkwjunior2298]

​@@frankopanklaricHe is?

[@frankopanklaric]

@@rkwjunior2298 Yes! He did pretty good. First episode.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

As another commenter mentioned I am shooter #1 on episode one! That said though I’m thinking I’ll go back for another round on the new points system here in a couple of months. Will likely run a 14.5” 6.5cm gas gun this time around 😳

[@GideonMagoh]

​@@MountainsMulletsMerica14.5 AR10 Creedmoor?! Never heard of that!

[@LRRPFco52]

Great video man. I used a 21" .308 SAKO 75 with a BR Tuote reflex suppressor for several sniper instructor courses in Finland. Overall length of the rifle in a McMillan A4 was the same as yours. I had to unscrew the can to install or remove the TRG bipod. They had cut a TRG bipod receptacle into the front of the A4, which was cool. The overall rifle was actually really lightweight since it was a true featherweight barrel, but it maintain POI all day, day-after-day in defiance of all that I thought I knew.

[@Matt-dd3cw]

Your channel kicks ass bro, it has quickly become my favorite shooting channel on youtube. I recently gained access to a range where we can get out to 1350 yards. I see a big difference in bullet selection with my 6.5 CM at extended range. The 135 A-Tips are on my short list to try, so far I'm most impressed with Berger 140 Hybrid Target bullets. Regarding the Hornady A-Tip, I like that as a handloader, I can likely gain some speed by dropping down to the 135's. I'm currently around 2,800 FPS with a 24" barrel using RL16 with the Bergers. As you said consistent velocity is huge. I'm trying to keep my SD under 10 FPS, still a work in progress.

[@aerowrench6787]

I built a 16” 6.5 gas gun with a Wilson combat barrel. It shoots a ragged hole at 100 and I’ve chrono’d it at 2590-2620 with some 140gr nosler match ammo. I haven’t had a chance to shoot far like you do but man it’s a small light and snappy rifle even with a 762 RC2 on it. If you spend some time on ballistics apps, you’ll find 6.5cm out of a 16” will actually be shooting flatter than a .308 out of a 20” barrel. It’s a neat round. .308 is still plenty relevant and effective too tho.

[@GoonBae]

Thats one quality mic you got there considering how the wind is, still produced good audio

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

You’ll be shocked when I tell you this is a $25 dollar Amazon special haha. I was afraid this audio would be trash but I came out very usable!

[@GoonBae]

@@MountainsMulletsMerica Not gonna lie, Im shocked🤯

[@dbowen22]

Liking and commenting for the algorithm. Love the channel, man! Keep it up, we really appreciate the amount of work you put into this.

[@Ninjaman-do5uk]

My Bergara B14 16" (cut, threaded, and suppressed) with 143gr ELD-X over 41.3 grains of H4350 is 2632fps. Love it and taken many whitetail and varmints out to 250yards. Steel at 800 or 1000 yards is boring easy. Just built another in lightweight chassis with proof barrel but haven't developed a load or chrono'd it at all.

[@the.original.throwback]

Interesting content with good information. Your shooting technique is great. Love seeing the wide open Palouse country. Keep the videos coming, please.

[@zigjib]

I've not watched the vid yet but I LOVE the 16.5" 6.5 Creedmoor. We are running the 147gr ELD-Ms out of a 16.5" Surgeon Rifle We are at 2495fps using 2209 (H4350) Out of our 24" barrel, we can only get 2710fps. Tangible benefits over an 8" longer barrel just doesn't exist. Less drop sure, but only .1Mil difference for wind drift in an average 10kph right to left wind. I'd love to see you re-do this with some of the heavies and see what you get.

[@LRRPFco52]

The 123gr and 130gr are more point-and-click effect due to less torque and minimal sight picture disturbance. I started shooting the .260 Rem in the 2000s with 139gr Scenar, 140gr A-MAX, and 142gr SMK. Tried the 130gr Berger and didn't look back. Fast, flat, within .1 mils drift of the 140s. So much easier to manage the sight picture.

[@zigjib]

@@LRRPFco52 That hasn't been my experience. The heavier projies provided longer range due to mass and inertia retention. We are using a 1/7 twist though. The lighter bullets are flatter but shorter range in the shorter barrels. I've not really noticed a sizeable difference in recoil. I'm sure it's there because physics, but it really wasn't something that was overly worth considering

[@michaellogie]

I'm really impressed with the performance you're getting out of this package! I'm building a 22" gas gun and starting to reconsider continuing. Lots of food for thought - many thanks!

[@KenBlackRifleAmerica]

I always enjoy your video presentations. I'd like to see the 6.5 Creedmoor without the silencer setup. We'll see ya on the next!

[@gconnoyer]

Awesome video as always. I love my shorty 6.5. I use the 130 Bergers for a little more velocity, and a little closer BC to my 6mm

[@LRRPFco52]

I love 130gr Berger from .260 Rem, 6.5x47L, 6.5CM, and 6.5 PRC. 130s are where it's at for me. Minimal sight picture disturbance compared to 140gr and higher. 130gr RDF has the shiznit BC.

[@MrNightheat]

Man i could just set and watch you shoot all day. Im rooting for you in every shot. Love the channel. So glad i found it

[@Way2Evl]

I'd love to see a comparison of this 6.5 vs your 14.5 6mm ARC setup.

[@Rangetechus]

Great channel and approach to things. You’ve got me considering a test rifle like this.

[@TOMMACMILLAN-fw6oh]

Thanks man !! New subscriber, but have been watching you for a while !! You answered some questions for me .... I wanted to cut down my 22" 6.5 creed to 19.5, so with EC tuner brake still sit at 22" over all length !!

[@ChrisC-yv8bz]

Love your breakdowns! SCIENCE!

[@IAmBoxman911]

Really impressive shooting. I also love to see recommendations on new ammo. I don't push my 6.5 out to those distances, but it is nice to see what a capable marksman can do with a solid rifle and good ammo.

[@kensnipes8233]

Well done and informative.

[@rpnbf8196]

Keep growing the channel- good stuff as always.

[@revolutionanarchy713]

Love ALL your videos, but this one specifically was really good info for me. As i'm wanting to build a couple shorty 6.5 creed rifles. At least one in semi auto and one in a bolt action. Keep up the great videos!!!

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Awesome! Really cool to hear you found value in watching this one. Lots of fresh content in the works so stay tuned!

[@TheCelestialWolf]

I love the little smoke poot from the can when you close the bolt after firing. XD

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

I love the term “smoke poot” haha

[@dobster5819]

Fantastic presentation. Your thought processes is very informative, many thanks.

[@magwamagwa45110]

You make very well done videos, all information is very clearly explained and editing is top notch thanks for sharing...

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Thank you! Really appreciate the compliments and support! Lots of fresh content coming soon so hope you’ll stay tuned and share with your buddies.

[@aubreyroche5080]

Standing out in a Dry wheat field shooting long Range with a Bullet too small, and a Barrel too short.........Liked & Subscribed... and your Microphone worked very well in the wind 😃

[@jameskennedy4984]

You do really good videos, informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work.

[@UNCRLS]

That rifle look just stunning!

[@BRYAN1963able]

Fantastic! I'm sold. I purchased a new scope, and now I know what to place it on. You did a great job explaining.

[@christophersmith4300]

Great shooting. Very interesting results..exceeded my expectations by a good margin.

[@Bellicose0311]

That’s awesome. I’m building an 18” 6 arc on a zermatt right now. Looks super fun

[@blammers6739]

very cool. love the video. i'm impressed what you were able to do with that short barrel! this gives me more confidence to get my creed barrel chopped.

[@nedkarp8468]

Great shooting! I really enjoy the view through the scope and being able to see your wind holds. I think it helps me do the same.

[@ranger4219]

Funny you remind me of a Bob Ross for shooting. Great presentation. You come across very well. I am very impressed. A joy to watch look forward to more content especially in the shorter barrel 16 an 18 inch bolt actions for hunting and precision.

[@762longrange]

Good video, very informative with all your different setups and tests for us

[@MrKeith57]

The Ally was a solid performer at distance with some challenging conditions but that barrel was part of the success. Oh, yeah! Its an amazing set up.

[@hutte59]

Another great video very informative. The most articulate person out there👍

[@peteyianna]

Love the video, great to see actual testing and performance and not some KZbinr seeing how many toilets will stop 50 bmg .

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Haha glad to hear you enjoyed the video! I think I've found a unique niche in the youtube space and that's around testing the things that are normally just talked about. Lots more content just like this in the works so hope you'll stay tuned and share with your buddies when possible.

[@gilream]

Another very interesting video. Great shooting in some windy conditions.

[@fattigla]

Great job on the audio for this video! Sound quality was good even though that wind was kickin!

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Shout out to the $25 Amazon microphone haha

[@fattigla]

Wow, well it wasworth every penny!

[@01Sassoon]

Superb video, and performance !! Subscribed !!

[@8ballphilc]

Fantastic video! Did everything I thought it would. I am in the process of doing something similar, but with a 10-14" barrel, intended to max out at 530 yards, the length of my personal range. No SBR restrictions here in Canada, as long as I use a new barrel blank and don't have a folding or collapsable stock that takes my overall firearm length to less than 26".

[@sandybartlett1333]

Another great video. I have a 16 ar10 6.5 cr and it's a killer for hunting pigs and deer. I haven't tested it uber long range yet

[@lby808ek]

Finally someone did a 16 inch 6.5 build which I did too ,but did it in a ar platform was skeptic doing it and will be suppressed too haven’t shot mines yet waiting on my suppressor to get out of jail and shopping for a scope while I wait, great content and information for ammo choices…

[@peterstone7901]

I appreciate your content and insight.

[@CiviTac]

I have a 22in 6.5cm I take out to 1200yds often. Awesome to see the shorter barrels do well also

[@jf7393]

Hey man I’m late to the party but on one of your recent videos you asked for opinions on whether people liked you jumping right into some action vs talking for a while. I for one very much enjoy the way you start by sort of “framing the action” and establishing the intentions of the video by talking to us for a while before getting on the rifle. That’s my vote! Thanks for everything

[@joebartlett3255]

Great video. Short barrel hunting rigs are the only way to go, even my PRS switch lugs are 20-22” barrels. I shoot the 110g Atip in my custom 6 CM 3050 fps. It flies good. I’ve connected at 1800. Single digit SD tuned load with 12-15 extreme spread. It also performs very well on game. Penetrates 6-8”, then explodes. No exit.

[@thebndu]

A video comparing your shots on tripod vs a bipod and their different uses would be awesome! Love the videos

[@gjdott]

Great analysis. I appreciate the rig setup and description.

[@JeremyElliott]

Fabulous content. Love the consistency.

[@zact9941]

I preferred my 18” 6.5CM barrel to my 16” because the longer gas system helped a lot with such a high pressure gassy round. I can get 2600 fps with a 140 eldm out of my 16” using staball 6.5. The ballistics are silly good for such a short barrel

[@hickorynotch]

Love it. I have a 16" 6.5 AR10. I've been searching for someone that knows what they're doing. I'm really interested in the allied munition ammo.

[@KretinD]

Compact rifles in efficient calibers are always a good time. Crazy performance with those 135gr atips. Would be awesome to see some 153gr atips through that rig.

[@charlesmullins3238]

They didn’t group well from my prc waypoint..retumbo,h1000, and magpro

[@LRRPFco52]

130gr and lower are much easier to manage behind the scope. Too much torque with 140s and above if you want to spot your own hits. 123gr Scenar and SMK do really well, very flat, still easy to see splash and hear impact. They'll easily do 2700-2750fps from a 16" 6.5-08 class cartridge.

[@jdrollason]

A friend of mine was trying to zero with the same Winchester ammo. The projectiles they use are pretty awesome. But upon looking at the ammo, you could physically see that the ogives were sat at different depths. The groups were well over an inch and a half. i gave him four factory Hornady140gr ELDMs and they went into the size of a nickle. Winchester is coming closer to making good ammo (using a good projectile) but they still have some work to do. Nice to see the pristene getting some love as well as finally seeing an outlier barrel. Thank you sir.

[@danielnagy6713]

This has become my favorite channel. I was considering a short barrel for my AI and this basically convinced me. Also 2640 out of a 16 that’s really good. Last time I chrono’d my 24 inch barrel with Hornady 140 eldm I was getting about 2650.

[@teampyle9835]

That big suppressor gives a decent velocity jump.

[@danielnagy6713]

@@teampyle9835 I run a 9 inch can as well. I’ve chronod with and without the silencer. The increase is very minimal.

[@teampyle9835]

@danielnagy6713 I'd bet the jump is more significant on shorter barrels due to higher pressure within the can. On a 24 inch barrel vs a 16 the powder burned before the bullet reaches the can is significant.

[@danielnagy6713]

@@teampyle9835 that would be nice. I guess I’ll find out. I’m going to be cutting my barrel to either 18 or 20 inches

[@teampyle9835]

@danielnagy6713 you'll still loose velocity. Your air pressure and ambient air temp play a fairly significant role in velocity too.

[@phillipmcleod7880]

Outstanding, thanks

[@J_Un1t]

My 16” tikka is shooting 130 tmk at 2620 I’ve been enjoying it a lot. The wind will definitelly push you harder than a long barrel but it’s still an effective platform

[@portdog761]

I have a 16.5 6.5 creed killed a elk and 475 129 grain. did great!

[@montanamusings]

I've been looking for a set up like that in 6.5 prc with a 24 inch barrel. Great job!

[@LRRPFco52]

6.5 PRC with a 22" pipe is plenty. Great cartridge with shockingly-low recoil for what it does.

[@Godfryness]

Love your videos. Please keep them coming

[@andrewcrosno]

Hey man this was great to see. You should repeat the 6mm arc with a 6.5 creed

[@QueOndaWhey]

Great camera setups! !Gracias!

[@GickelsGaming]

MMM, absolutely love the channel. I have a question for ya, that will **SURELY** test your marksmanship! I'd love to challenge you to do a long range double tap, and caliber and load is of your choice. I'd like to see how far you can double tap a target while the rounds are still in flight. Longer the better! subsonics and distance is entirely up to you! BONUS points for a triple tap with subsonics!!!

[@perdidocamaronero5400]

I'm glad I stumbled onto your video. I just started load development for an 18" 6.5 Creedmoor. It took me a while to get it in my head the velocities are going to be much less than the published data since most of the loads are based on 24" barrels. The lighter bullets can almost match the book velocities up until a certain point then they stall and my 142 SMK load actually lost 100 fps with a 1 grain increase of H 4350 ( 41.0 grains) however it shot a half moa 5 shot group at 100 yds the velocity average was 2552 fps. One grain less ( 40.0 grains ) was average of 2612 the group was slightly larger than half moa but the rifle was brand new it seems to be shooting better the more rounds I am putting through it. I have a SRT Shadow suppressor I keep on it doing load tests. I don't think it changes the velocities any I haven't tried shooting without the can and I use a Magnetospeed as well. I also have a 16.5" 308 I need to do some load work on that should be fun. I never have chronographed any of its loads just load and shoot mostly 150 grain bullets in it. The barrel is a Sendero mated to a 98 Mauser action. Only used for deer hunting and pigs and I dabbled with subsonics using Trail Boss powder but stick to a 300 Whisper for that kind of work. Too easy and same results with the Whisper or Blackout. My 6.5 varmint loads are 95 V Max I have gotten them to 3000 fps using several different powders and Alpa and Hornady cases. I stopped at 3000 and are still way below max book loads and also with 100 grain Sierra hollow points both have good 100 yard accuracy. I just started a new load with 105 grain Sierra Tipped Varminter bullets I should be able to get them close to 3000 without any problems. I have shot some 120 ballistic tips and some A Max in the 2700 fps range I have even shot some 130 Scorocco's. Not too much data out on them or at least I haven't found much. I went through the same thing with a .260 Remington but at least it has a 24" barrel I bought lots of 6.5 projectiles I also have a 6.5x55 rifle. It's easy to load for.

[@perdidocamaronero5400]

The 105 grain Sierra new load are actually Tipped Blitz King I am using 107 grain Sierra load data from their book for these. Starting load was with Winchester 760 I can't recall the weight but velocity was in the 2600's I might try Varget or H 4350 next . The accuracy was sub moa at 100 yards just not much speed.

[@abelacosta7200]

Man them MDT chasis’ are very nice. I’ve been eyeing a similar set up like yours. But I really want one of them Desert Tech bull pup chasis. I would really like to see you review one.

[@greatdane3343]

Great info and video. Fantastic shooting too 🎯 Your channel is awesome and deserves success.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Lots of new content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned and share with your buddies!

[@greatdane3343]

@@MountainsMulletsMerica I'd love to see you do some work with a 6 ARC bolt rifle, as that is my next project in a Howa Mini.

[@GammaRayTrae]

Thank you for this video, I have been looking into a short 6.5 creedmoor and this convinced me. I would recommend a Burn Proof Gears suppressor cover. That would help with the mirage you're seeing

[@saintgiles]

Thanks!

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Hey really appreciate you taking the time to support the channel! I hope to keep cranking out content that viewers like to watch so let me know if you ever have anything you'd like to see me try and tackle on video!

[@markt.1153]

Very good presentation with some interesting results. The only additional thing I would have liked to have seen is the same shooting without the suppressor to see what the difference would be, if there is a difference at all.

[@clintivy623]

Great shooting man. Speaks volumes to the capability of the shortie 6.5s

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Thank you! Pretty cool what short barrels are capable of when paired with nice ammunition. Lots more content just like this in the works so hope you'll stick around to check it out!

[@clintivy623]

@@MountainsMulletsMerica sure will! Thank you!

[@armeddiver]

I love your channel and am really glad that I subscribed to it. This was an interesting one. I have four 6.5 CM guns, two bolt guns and two LR308 platform guns. One of my LR308 guns is a 16” with a Faxon barrel. I built it with the idea that it [c]ould be a do ‘most’ rifle. I learned a lot from building and shooting that gun and I won’t build another one. I really like your gun, but for a precision rifle I don’t see any advantage to it. I think I will be sticking with my 24” gun. Thank for making the video I learned a lot.

[@jonsherwood4446]

Thanks for putting up this video thinking about building a 6.5 in a ar10 thinking building it aero precision

[@TerrySprey]

Don’t know much about long range shooting this was informative. You have a new subscriber

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Thank you! Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Long range shooting is awesome but be warned…. It’s addicting and can get expensive haha

[@LudwigsPrecision]

have run 18" creed before and miss it so going to build my next compeating rifle on a 6.5CM Bolt action.

[@kenorrah8072]

Found your channel thanks to TPH talking you up. Really enjoyed this , and have subscribed. Ken

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Awesome, really appreciate you taking the time to come see what I'm about! If you're into long range shooting I think you'll enjoy my content!

[@CorvetteStuff1]

Great video! I built a very similar whitetail rig this year. Bighorn Orgin action, 16” Excalibur carbon fiber barrel, AG Composites stock, Leupold VX-6 3-18 and a Q Half Nelson can. It’s a light weight, quiet tack-driver. I shoot 143 Gr ELD-X right at 2500 FPS

[@ronmartblog]

Massive respect ✊ I can’t believe how easily you got on at 1265 with no feedback on your miss

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

To be fair there was some luck in that one…. Always hard to figure out how to correct after missing with no feedback. All you know at that point is what you did on the last round didn’t work so you’ve got to make a guess on what to do next and hope it gets different results haha

[@ronmartblog]

@@MountainsMulletsMerica Awesome educated guess! You make it look easy!

[@stevekuhns793]

I have a Remington 783 in 6.5 creedmoor with the factory 16.5 inch heavy barrel. Love it for whitetail hunting. I have been able to get sub moa with factory ammo without issue.

[@HollerHunter]

If it’s a non heavy barrel, do you think a 16” would still be ok for killing whitetail up to 400 yards?

[@stevekuhns793]

@@HollerHunter , I wouldn't Imagine that the barrel profile would change much, mine is not a super heavy barrel just a little more so than a standard sporter. It has done very well on Whitetail for me.

[@HollerHunter]

@@stevekuhns793 how far are you comfortable shooting out to with it?

[@SmackedInATL]

That string of A-tip impacts.....well done brother.