6.5 Creedmoor barrel length comparison- long range testing

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[@tommynason5853]

Would be good to see a Daniel defense DD5 tested out to distance.

[@mrmcbeth]

I have enraged people with the idea of shooting a short barrel at long range. I never understood why. Great video.

[@jaredandrews379]

Some people can't handle facts lol

[@ericvantassell6809]

there's much to be missed. you lose a bit of velocity which will eveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeentually matter.

[@ExtremeUnction1988]

The fact that likeminded gun owners literally get their panties in a bunch over something as hair-splitting as barrel length or caliber selection is a sad statement about the gun community as a whole. Bunch of fucking losers.

[@jrca1406]

Totally agree. People can’t wrap their head around true ballistic theory. For that matter, most “shooters” (“hunters” are even worse!) can’t even understand what MOA means and how it relates to impact/kill. EVERYBODY wants a 1/4moa gun and they believe they can actually shoot that😂😂. Silly city boys!

[@Ripper13F1V]

I was laughed off several websites more than 10 years ago asking about 16" creedmore barrels to replace my grendels. I had comments from velocity is king and I'd be hamstringing a long range round, to no barrel maker worth their salt will spin one up for you because it's a dumb idea, to 6.5 ammo is soo expensive for to chop the velocity down. Well, here we are. Grendel ammo is more expensive, velocity is almost the same except for much heavier more aerodynamic bullets, to much better range, and done in a semi-auto out to 1000. It's not dumb. I now have two CM's one that's a 16" AR that's my multipurpose rifle that can do out to 1000, but is comfy at 500-700, and a bolt action that I can dominate past 800 with. Different tools for different uses. And the grendels are all but retired for my use.

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Just commenting to help the algorithm. This channel should have 10x the subscribers it does.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Doing the work of a hero! Appreciate the support!

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It should have 300k? Lol

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You should have way more subscribers. Great content.

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As long as youtube doesn't go full gun grabber, he will no doubt be huge eventually. Some of the best LR content on YT.

[@pogeegitz]

Great stuff - facts without opinions or feelings to get in the way.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

That’s the goal of my channel…. Just here to gather the data and share with my audience so the viewer can make this own more educated decision. Appreciate you taking the time to watch!

[@pogeegitz]

@@MountainsMulletsMerica BTW I've been getting 2465 fps out of my 18" Grendel with 130gr TGK's (Max charge hand loads) Decent accuracy too, but I can only go out to 400 yards at my longest shooting range.

[@LRRPFco52]

​@@pogeegitz If your COL is pushed out to 2.275", you can still get that speed with certain powders and still not go over 50ksi, throat depending. Won't work with some mags though.

[@pogeegitz]

​@@LRRPFco52I've got mine loaded out to 2.29, Max mag length for me

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[@bradleyfountaine]

God I love this page. Definitely surprised with the results from the 16". Seems that the weight saving and smaller profile really drives in the value of the 16". Great work man!

[@lekeiblerelf]

I think most folks concern revolves around energy on target at those longer distances for hunting. Figuring out which length has the ideal powder burn vs what's unnecesary is all science. I absolutely love, and frequently recommend this channel. Keep up the solid work bud.

[@talon0863]

BTW that wind was the calmest Ive seen. That is a sweet range.

[@ericsrussell]

Great reminder that barrel length is relative to what you want to do with it. Range time and consistent application brings your accuracy. Great video!

[@CantHaveNiceThings8]

Best long range shooting channel on KZbin. Thank you! Glad you found a place to shoot in your new state.

[@TheHide]

I dont have access to 1k+ yards so i think this video confirmed my thoughts on a 16 for my new channel project rifle. Appreciate the content thanks for sharing!

[@Operatorofstealth]

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[@NelsonZAPTM]

Agreed. But who are the other two? Mark and Sam?

[@Operatorofstealth]

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[@TheLoneRanger745]

I've learned a lot watching him , great instructor 😁

[@submissionoutdoors570]

ive been questioning my ar10 precision and accuracy. this video made me realize 100 yard groups dont necessarily mean poor performance at range. both weapons were just over 1 moa, but made consistent hits at over 1k yards. very nice.

[@chriswilson2880]

Try the Hornady Black in your AR-10. Do it, you wont regret it

[@wilsonlitten7881]

Even tuning handloads and trying loads that have shot 0.5-0.75 moa consistently in my bolt action Tikka. Those loads in my LMT 6.5 on average are just a 1.0-1.25 moa.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

I'm going to make a video on this exact topic.... everyone gets all wrapped up in needing "sub moa" performance but I'm not sure those same people understand what that actually means at distance? How many times are you finding yourself shooting sub moa targets at long range? While that does occasionally happen, from a practical accuracy standpoint, you can make plenty of hits at distance with a rifle that consistently shoots say 1.5 moa or better. Still working on how I want to format this video but I feel like it might really open some eyes.

[@chadjones7722]

I really like running longer bench guns for the less drop, less wind, and better velocity, but it just goes to show a shorter 6.5 creedmoor can still get the job done, and we don't have to have a tote around a long gun just to get the job done. It's cool to see the 14.5 and 16" performances, whereas the 22 definitely is just a little bit easier. I recently did my first 1000 yard shoot, brought a 14.5 6mm arc and a 24" 6mm arc. Same thing applies, lighter bullet. It was fun to see the shorter gun get it done, but it was a little harder and a little less consistent due to mostly wind. That said it only took a couple extra shots to hit the 1 moa challenge plate. Overall, great video and content.

[@davidmcneil1550]

Great accuracy from both. Impressed with the 16”.

[@ericallen4922]

I think you’re on point. I have a 22 inch 6.5C and have no objections to shorter barrels - you’ve proven it works. I think the difference at range is terminal velocity and ft lbs on target. That said, I personally wouldn’t be comfortable shooting at game at the long ranges that you’re demonstrating so 16 inch gets my vote. Nice job.

[@05xlt]

Man, I just built a 6.5CM earlier this year with a 22” barrel. I love it, but if I’d seen this first, I probably would have built with a shorter barrel and saved a little weight.

[@rdsii64]

My practical guns have 20 inch barrels. My static target rifles ( f-class, bench rest and such have longer ones) I'm seriously considering a semi-auto 16 inch hunting rig in the near future.

[@Gunker02]

Watch his 14.5 6.5 VS 20" 308 video.

[@05xlt]

@@Gunker02 Guess I’m gonna have to build more rifles. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Gunker02]

@@05xlt 💯 lol

[@mrseamons]

You are doing a great job man! I hope your channel keeps growing. Very thorough technical data

[@firstimeshooter6590]

Your videos never fail. It’s made me want to push my limits with my AR 10. Still saving up my money to finish my Bergara BMP. Hopefully by then I’ve gotten better at distance.

[@Spessforce]

Excellent marksmanship on display here, at a beautiful facility

[@josephwilson4178]

I couldn’t be more excited for this video. I’m currently shopping for a 6.5 creedmoor barrel. Ive been eyeballing a few 18” barrels.

[@talon0863]

This also makes a good example of why to go with a not-so-hot load development for increased barrel life

[@Gunfighter5]

I just built an Areo M5 for my class. It was sent to me with an 18-inch .308 barrel and I switched it out for a 22-inch 6.5 Creedmoor. I plan to use it for targets and maybe whitetails. I think this is a great choice for this platform. The new barrel is the BA premium series I got brand new for a little over 200 dollars.

[@heisman01]

part of the sdi scam?

[@sammysteele1660]

Thanks for all the content you put out there. And showing that you can shoot that yardage at the slower speeds. Keep up the great content

[@jonathanlogan6647]

So for me that velocity drop is an absolute killer for shooting nrl hunter. It just doesnt stand a change of making power factor

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Yep if you’re shooting nrl hunter 16” has zero chance of making power factor. You’ll need as much velocity out a 6.5cm to get there. This is a great point I wish I would’ve thought to include in my summary.

[@LRRPFco52]

Will a 16" 7mm-08 or 7mm SAW do it?

[@jonathanlogan6647]

@LRRPFco52 they will probably do better than 6.5 as the power they use is faster burning, and they shoot heavy bullets. But honestly, go carbon fiber over shorter barrel. Everyone I've ever seen try to go shorter than 20 inches seems to get in trouble with the power factor unless the round is somewhat overkill. There is a way to get around all this which is with factor loaded ammo weighing 140grs are more but I'm not rich enough to afford to shoot 3 dollars a round all year.

[@mrwoods2427]

Thanks!

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Really appreciate your support of the channel! Let me know if you ever have any video ideas you’d like me to try and knock out!

[@Charles_ONeal]

I have always wanted to see someone take a 24" barrel shoot a decent amount of rounds through it and record all of the velocities and group sizes. Then cut off a certain increment of length and keep repeating until you get to 16". I would think an ammo maker and maybe one of the AR makers would sponsor it. Re-crowning the barrel each time would be important. This way you get an apples to apples comparison.

[@RolandtheThompsonGunner]

I just watch a video a couple days ago of someone doing just that, but he started at 27in. Unfortunately I don't remember who it was, though it is out there. I'll try to find it and get back to you.

[@Charles_ONeal]

@@RolandtheThompsonGunner I would love that.

[@IanMacLeansnv]

MDT did it. Search KZbin for Cutting The World's Longest Rifle To Find The Perfect Barrel Length

[@thebestdavidpeters]

I am very happy with my 24" 6.5 CM, but after seeing this I wouldn't be opposed to having a 16" as well.

[@sjohnson1776]

Fun video and info! Thanks to you and the range for letting this content happen. Good stuff!!

[@UpAnd2TheRight]

Could watch these videos all day my guy. Love your content

[@Tpepper70]

Thanks for this vid. I just built a lightweight LR-308 with a 16” 6.5 CM barrel. Good DOPE will get you way out there. Thanks again for amazing content.

[@ScottShinn-u9j]

Just built a 6.5CM AR, soots as well as my SASS .308 but flatter. Both are 16". The 24" on my bolt guns get more velocity/accuracy of course, but still love the 16" for most situations. Great comparison, love the honest no BS content!

[@MrShortanswer]

Always look forward to your videos, can’t wait to see your video on POI shift on the AR platform. I just built an Aero Enhanced upper using a white oak armament barrel to avoid this issue.

[@lornelovelace8217]

You’re going places my guy. Keep up the good work.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Appreciate the encouragement! Lots of new content planned…. Just have to find time to get it all filmed and launched. Stay tuned!

[@mr.nobody6457]

This is an excellent channel!

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Thank you! Glad you’re enjoying the content!

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[@Big222Dog]

Enjoyed the video. Never used Barnes bullets, must try them. I'm from Ireland. Here in Europe we shoot with shoot with shorter barrels as most shooters use moderators. I recently changed my old STEYR pro-Hunter 6.5X55 Swedish 22" barrel to a Tikka T3x varmint in 6.5x55 Swedish. I was nervous about the shorter barrel. I'm getting way better performance from the Tikka 20" barrel. It takes hotter loads than my old STEYR. Shoot 130g SMK with 59g N560, it stays supersonic to 1200 metres. That's a lot better than my 29" Bergara B-14 HMR 308. I'd live to see some of you gentlemen in the States, test the grandfather of 6.5 and put the 6.5X55 Swedish against the 6.5 creedmoor in a similar test you did here.

[@Big222Dog]

Small correction, 50g N560 and 20" barrels. Sorry about that, it the Irish whiskey, it's our thing! 😉😉

[@TheReallyPleasedDoge]

There is a big difference in punching paper and trying to achieve velocities needed for hunting bullets to expand reliably. With proper marksmanship you may hit your target, but you still need the velocities to knock it down ethically. Thanks for the video!

[@Krystyna-g9p]

Yes, this is what crossed my mind.

[@djarecke]

Great video and great comparison! You got "Tremor'd" at 17:09 by accidentally holding a MIL low. That's why those reticles can be a challenge especially under stress.

[@AllProCombat]

FOR THE ALGORITHM! Been binging your content man, it's fantastic. Thanks!

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Thanks for the support, more content coming soon so stay tuned! Also if you get a chance I could use your help to win a gundie award for breakout creator of the year.... you can vote daily through the 15th at the gundies website. Every vote is huge so if you get a chance to help out it would be much appreciated!

[@maurice1876]

Love this channel I have to rewatch videos while I wait for the new one 🎉😂

[@Deano54]

Great content and enjoy your channel. Appreciate all you do. Bought a budget 20in 308 and an Arken scope. Going to try a little of this long range shooting. Thanks. .

[@Gemini2thecore]

Well, I was going to build a 6.5 with a 22" barrel, but I'm thinking an 18" will be just as good. Thanks for the info!

[@p47rr]

I really like the B5 precision stock. Just ordered another one yesterday. Beautiful rifles. Congratulations.

[@rvoykin]

I know it’s a bit of a pain, but I bet with a little bit of load development for each rifle. You could tighten up the groups a bit more but for a semi auto platform looks very solid given to totally different barrel lengths.

[@Slurmpslurmp8356]

This is literally the video I was looking for! I’m building my first precision rifle, and had some questions about barrel length.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

After watching this, which direction are leaning for barrel length?

[@Slurmpslurmp8356]

@@MountainsMulletsMerica I went with a 22” from Faxon, thanks for asking :)

[@jimmyslim1628]

They both got there with simular effort. 👌 💪

[@g6854]

This video was extremely well done. Keep up the great work. You speak very well and need to keep these videos coming.

[@andrewhopp6139]

Have a 14.5" 6.5CM and love it. 2508 fps with 140ELDM hand loads and 2570 FPS with berger 130 hand loads.

[@vladivostok47]

Who did your barrel? Been looking at picking up a Craddock RTR but they’re hard to find reviews on.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Great video man , killer editing

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Thank you! Really cool to hear you notice the effort put in on the editing side! Lots of new content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out

[@pablopenasco4254]

Great video! I got into 6.5 Grendel 15 years ago and went with a 20” heavy barrel because I wanted more velocity at distance. I haven’t shot much the last few years and on a whim got a 18” upper with a lighter profile barrel because I would like to have a lighter rifle. Now I am saving for a scope for that upper to test it out and compare the two. Grendel got superseded by the newer Creedmoor but this test is similar to what I what I expect. Slightly different wind calls but not enough to justify the heavy 20” barrel.

[@maxrees8445]

Loved this video. My friend has a bad barrel. I've been trying to convince him to cut it down to see if it will correct the problem before he buys a new one.

[@LRRPFco52]

Much easier to get a new pipe from a company that cares about their product.

[@robertfarmer6316]

I second tbis^ maybe could send it out after, but buying a better quality barrel would be the way to go… IMO

[@fattigla]

Great video! I recently got a 6.5 Creedmoor barrel back from being cut down to 16". I haven't had the chance to chrono it yet. For its intended use of short-range hunting and target shooting, it should work great.

[@nmacgyver1]

Just found your channel and really appreciate your style and content. If I’m thinking from the hunting perspective (not the point of this video - but that’s my main interest) I’d probably go with the longer barrel in almost any caliber for better terminal velocity and ballistics. But your point is very well made and convincing and has me questioning if the differences are as important as I’ve always thought. Great stuff!

[@shaneheimgartner2006]

As always great content, breakdown and transparency. You should have a LOT more subscribers

[@JimYeats]

I’ve got a 12.5” 6mmARC AR and a 16” 308 Win bolt gun as my current go to hunting guns depending on the situation. So nice having more compact guns.

[@camonly849]

6.5cm is just such a good round. It's got no issue going that distance out of a shorter barrel. I would argue that the longer barrels that yield quite a bit more velocity are better, due to your wind holds. It battles the wind better which gives you a higher hit percentage on target. Love my 6.5cm. Mine is out of a tikka bolt gun though, not a gas gun. Great shooting!

[@Snapper314]

Amazing shooting and Great content! I have a 20 inch LMT 6.5 Creedmoor that I need to start pushing out further! And I've been very tempted by the SR25 Cartel Uppers and Barrels! Glad to see them performing for you.

[@Jamestreeman]

Would love to see you run an 18 in 6.5 thru its paces. Great content Great shooter

[@rmpmotorsports]

One reason I take time to dial is so I don't hold 2.2 instead of 3.2. Didn't help that is was supposed to be 3.6, but I had to rewind and look. Definitely held one at 2.2, haha! Great videos though and I liked the side by side. Glad your here in Idaho now! I'm planning on attending a match at Day Mountain Ranch in October, might see you around if you're in this area!

[@odactual]

I was wondering about this exact thing, but I think some additional information could have been helpful. I would have shared the estimated velocities of the round at each of the target distances, how much energy the round would have at those distances, the BC of the bullet, and the estimated wind deflection at the specific ranges. Keep up the good work and the beautiful videos from the Palouse.

[@steveroehlk8799]

Can you comment or even better, show what the brass looks like out of the 16". Extractor abusing the case rim? Ejector swipes? Gas system length would be an easy to include data point. Great content! Keep it up!

[@2ndHandReview]

If you're just worried about hitting the target the barel length seems to matter less. I'd love to see some gel tests at 300-600 yards. I would guess bullet selection is just as important as barrel length

[@LRRPFco52]

Federal Terminal Ascent and Nosler ABLRs have awesome expansion performance.

[@K-bob_45]

I’d flip wind and drop with wind taking priority. Have you ever used applied ballistics to run a WEZ analysis?

[@mike0701]

great comparison! just in the middle of a 16 inch barrel build. Will let you know how it works out. Thank you for all the information!! trying to build an ethical DMR!

[@theozofwizards6923]

Just picked up a Howa 6.5 shorty BA and found this for info great in depth content

[@cameronlange3448]

Great video, thank you. I believe you have convinced me on a 16 inch 6.5.

[@vincentdelaossa9740]

Thanks again for making great content!

[@joshua3113]

My new 308 loves the Sierra Match bullets. Took out my 2 new rifles one in 308 AR and 6.5 CM bolt action. The 6.5 shot very well with them but as it heated up it let the last couple groups open up fairly wide. My 308 however help amazing groups with the Sierras even when it was quite hot. Honestly some of the best groups I've ever had.

[@TheLoneRanger745]

Beautiful Rifles, Great shooting, A LOT of KNOWLEDGE PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER , AND MADING IT LOOK EAZY 💪👍😎❤️. AWESOMENESS 😎 I've learned a lot watching this channel. Thank you for your videos Buddy

[@themikebray]

Best info on YT, thanks for all your videos. I have learned so much.

[@shanebuechner1429]

Well done videos. I put the word out to all my fellow shooters.

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Appreciate the support!

[@jtc406]

Great info as always! Also good to see some big boy equipment back on the channel. 😎

[@Lucysdad66]

Alot of people don't know that switching back and fourth from lead core to solid copper without cleaning can on alot of guns change your zero and open up your groups..

[@louiedee1234]

Thank you for your help as I begin my travels in long distance shooting. I see myself in kindergarten with long distance shooting education, Thank You.

[@markchavez5560]

Always enjoy your content, always informative and straight up.

[@PrezUSMC]

I'm here for this. I've got a 14.5 but have been considering shorter.....12.5-13". Just to see

[@LRRPFco52]

I have 22" .260 Rem GAP LR-260 24" Grendel 18" Grendel 18" Grendel 17.6" Grendel 14.5" Grendel 12" Grendel 10.5" Grendel 8.5" Grendel I shoot the 12" Grendel the most, but usually bring the 17.6" Lilja and 18" LaRue along too. I haven't shot my .260 Rem or 24" Grendel since 2015. I shoot all the time.

[@DavidBaumgarner]

​@@LRRPFco52What kind of ranges / conditions do you typically shoot?

[@LRRPFco52]

@@DavidBaumgarner I'm in the Mountain West region like you see in this video, but in Utah. 4400-4800ft elevation in the valleys, 6300+ at my preferred range complex. I shoot year-round, boiling summer through sub-freezing mountain winter. My go-to for recreational LR and my DM Courses is the 12" Grendel. Too easy to pack in a tiny soft case, pull it out and start hitting steel at 780yds with a 1-6x24 LPVO. I've 1st-round connected with it at 900yds on 2 MOA plate, which was crazy. I'm more excited about working with the 8.5" Grendel over the coming years. I'm just looking for the right optics for it. I shoot the 12" suppressed exclusively with a tiny TBAC Ultra 5. I've been shooting 6.5 Grendel since 2009. Started shooting LR formally in 1995 in my 1st Recon Platoon, so I've been in the LR game for a long time.

[@TrainConfident]

Found your channel recently. Great job, keep up the good work! Your reviews are also excellent. Tim F. - Train Confident

[@rxdoom1194]

Always love your videos brother!

[@MountainsMulletsMerica]

Thank you! Really appreciate your continued support!

[@saltymofo5870]

Great job as usual, you are very thorough in your tests

[@Proaman-js2qv]

Enjoyed the high quality content, well done! In the opinion section I was also looking for recoil impulse, must not have been worth mentioning? Keep up the great work.

[@nikos6220]

Tough call you had to make on the load. 200 fps for 6” lost is a bit too much based on my experience, so the 16” is probably put at a disadvantage here by using this load. Or is that speed in line with dedicated loads you developed for this rifle? Thx

[@pualcduffy]

Unless I’m rucking with the rifle or clearing rooms the added length is not an issue and I’ll take the better wind deflection

[@shrubjr893]

What're you even doing with a rifle that doesn't involve rucking, hunting, or defending? 😂

[@chrisarnold769]

Rucked SAWs with 1k+ rounds and 240s with 600+ for a decade. Amazes me how everyone's a tough guy, but the idea of carrying 2-3 more lbs of barrel or .308 instead of 5.56 is just too much. Thinking most of these guys need to hit the treadmill.

[@jason91notch]

Great video! Id only say that while you can reach out and touch steel or whatever *very* far with a short 6.5, the potential issue becomes terminal performance. I wonder at what point you drop below the 500lbs of energy on both rifles. Thanks!

[@macgyver5108]

Mine out of a 22" barrel with 147gr ELD-M @ 55°f/29.7in baro 2495fps muzzle has 517ft/lbs @1175y and 497ft/lbs @1200y. His 140gr Barnes probably fall under 500ft/lbs between 1150-1175 yards depending on atmospherics.

[@fordvg]

Great job with the video. I personally like the 22” inch barrel, but I’m old school and my days of humping mountains are over. To old and fat and body parts that don’t work now. Great views

[@JasonChipley]

I like my 18" LMT 6.5 creed. Large frames get heavy fast! Great video, keep up the grind.

[@wilsonlitten7881]

I have 18" LMT 6.5 as well and with a suppressor it keeps it an acceptable weight and not unwieldly long with a suppressor, which is exactly why I bought it.

[@jarodchronister3522]

Being a distance shooter I’m with you on this. Within reason, barrel length is not much of an issue unless your looking for that “flat shooter” or exponential velocity relating to kinetic energy on target at distance. As far as shorter distances like 300 and below.. I don’t think there’s enough of a difference to make a difference, most certainly not on any animal you may be hunting.

[@jorgejaime7215]

Great video, well-made and very informative.

[@charltonlwalker]

It’s like Bob Ross meets precision rifle. Great guy.

[@willxy42dakin61]

Best time spent on youtube

[@bigfootgoesboom]

I’d love a video comparing badlands munitions. 85gr 556 vs their nas3 77gr vs black hills 77 gr

[@gregbeck906]

Glad I found a new channel! 👊

[@sc6802]

Gel blocks at 1000

[@mrs.vasquezz]

600 and 1000

[@jrca1406]

Because you want to argue that a 22” 6.5 isn’t a joke compared to a 300PRC in gel at a 1000? Anyone that hunts at a grand with a 6.5 has forfeited the right to argue energy. Do it if you want, but don’t preach to me about its effectiveness.

[@LRRPFco52]

​@@jrca1406 Not trying to be testy, but some really good shooters have successfully hunted elk past 1k with 6.5 SAUM, but they're top 1% shooters. I certainly wouldn't do it with 6.5CM. 600yds is a challenge even for experienced LR shooters with 6.5CM. Most people should stay within 300 regardless of what they're shooting, and 300yd shots need trajectory compensation.

[@jrca1406]

@@LRRPFco52great points and valid reasoning, in my opinion 👍🏻

[@armstrong2052]

For science! Slow motion out that far is probably too much science bucks$. 😂

[@hotrodglock]

Such a timely video!

[@michaelwoods6754]

As always love the video and solid information.

[@tomferrel7017]

Always enjoyable videos to watch

[@brandonwilliams7371]

Great video! Very cool rifles

[@americanpatriot6918]

I recently bought some 308 and 6.5 CM AR-10's and I bought some Primary Arms Apollo mil dot reticle scopes for a few of them. I also bought their Platinum series 1-8 compact LPVO's with the Griffin reticle. They have a built in BDC, but also a mill grid. I'm new to using mils, but I really want to learn how to use them in their full capacity. The range I use only has 500 yards, but it has quite a few targets out to that distance. You seem to be totally dialed in when it comes to using your reticles to their full potential. Are there any KZbin videos or even books that you recommend on using a mil grid to calculate bullet drop and wind holds?? Thanks for doing these videos. I recently picked up a 20" and 18" 6.5 CM AR-10, and I was hesitant to buy the 18" because of velocity. But it was a deal I couldn't refuse, $1,250 for a CheyTac CT-10! The trigger on that thing breaks at like 2lbs, nice and crisp with hardly any take-up. After watching this video, I have no doubt it will do what need it to now! Keep up the great work, I appreciate the time and detail you put into making these videos! That scope camera you use works really good too. Great stuff!!!😎🇺🇸🦅👊💪

[@LRRPFco52]

Take a course from a reputable instructor. What part of the Country are you in?

[@gadzks]

Exceptional content and thank you! I would love to do the same 16" setup with the LMT in 6.5CR using a 762 BR as the base. Best of both worlds!

[@BigPhilsSaws]

I will say, as a less experienced mid-long range shooter, in throated .308 with 190 grain matchkings, the difference between 20 inch barrel and 24 inch barrel is pretty significant for me. My bullets are much more predictable at 1000 yards out of the 24 inch rig than they are out of the 20"