“Should have used chains”

[@RevereOverland]

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[@antonyhuguet4493]

I love this weather with a lot of snow and cold

[@Venture2Roam]

We brought an Ice maker…but no chainsaws. I think that shows what our priorities were on this trip. I really enjoyed this version of the trip Rob, well done.

[@RevereOverland]

Haha yeah!

[@kevinmyers4437]

Just bought my JLUR a year ago. Five years from retirement and paying off the Jeep and Jeep build. I’ve done the AR BDR, last April 3 weeks after purchase. Can’t wait to do a trip like this!! My sole calls me to Jeepin. Great trip, love it!!

[@frontierstateoverland3816]

It was great hitting the trail with you again Rob! Thanks for sharing the @Bluettie…both for my diesel heater AND for the ice in our bourbon!

[@justmengracie]

Hopefully Will fixes the roof top tent mounts before the whole thing breaks loose and flies off on the highway... A lot of potential liability there as well as losing an expensive tent.

[@RevereOverland]

The mount is solid, and it doesn’t move on the highway. It’s the bed and the bars that flex, and the bouncing of the snow seemed to be right at their resonant frequency!

[@clintlamrouex9866]

Beautiful scenery. Awesome job on the drone footage

[@larshamilton40]

best call Heavy D Sparks and his crew to recover that drone.... another banger here Rob! ( RIp Will's rtt.. 😂)

[@jasonh4167]

Rip rrt

[@tedfisk1211]

Beautiful scenery. Thanks for taking us along

[@RevereOverland]

Thank you!

[@chrissolomon8868]

Loved this cold adventure with friends...looking forward to many more

[@AllThingsOverlanding]

Gah, I love snow so much. So jealous. Also, Will's tent moves A LOT on that Smartcap.

[@RevereOverland]

It's a lot of fun! His tent likes to shake.

[@TrailNewbie]

Your films are so awesome - inspiring bro! Loved this one! 🙌🏼👊🏼

[@RevereOverland]

Thanks for watching!

[@jerrymarkee4269]

Yes, chains are one of those things when you need them you need them when you don’t you don’t. But chains don’t really make you dig in much. It’s throttle control you spin your tires without chains you dig in you spin your tires with chains you dig in. I’ve actually had to use them twice over the last two years, but it was due to ice under the snow. they are such a pain to put on. I just launched my KZbin video from about six weeks ago where we had no choice and we had to chain up. The biggest misconception on ice is airing your tires down too low this will actually make things worse on ice and create less pressure per square inch.

[@RevereOverland]

They were fantastic where it was icy! They didn’t help a lot in the deep snow though, and Will had to be a lot more careful. He was a lot more patient and than me, but still dug in eventually!

[@jerrymarkee4269]

Yes, the snow conditions are always so different.. This year in the Cascades there has been so much sugar snow just doesn’t matter what you do can’t can’t stay on top of it. Crazy weather.. looks like you guys had a great adventure.!

[@Venture2Roam]

I'd say chains do make you dig more if just comparing wheel spin from not having chains to wheel spin with them on..but you're right that wheel spin is the bigger problem in soft snow!

[@bennieman2244]

Awesome footage! I loved seeing all the problem solving. Thanks for another great video

[@explor360]

Serious question: why did you put the socks/chains on the front axle instead of the rear or both? Thanks.

[@RevereOverland]

I only have one set, and wanted them on the steering for the icy climb. For the deep snow I figured it would help a little in getting the front up onto the snow. Next time I’m out I want to try socks on the front and chains on the rear.

[@lazzmckenzie1879]

Now you are getting it. Chains are worse for certain conditions. They cut in too much - don’t allow any float !

[@RevereOverland]

They definitely have their place, but deep snow isn’t it. Any time we even touch snow we always get commenters tell us to use chains.

[@hbuhguyg]

Great stuff! Music during first day felt a bit overpowering for me and not exactly in line with tempo of the visuals

[@jimForgottenHinterland]

For downed trees, if you don't have a chainsaw, get yourself a Silky Katanaboy. Next best thing. I don't leave home without mine.

[@RevereOverland]

That looks like a great option, and about the same size as my fold up saw. We ran into the issue of clearance with my saw - it can only cut about 5-6" before you hit the top of it. I can see the Silky Katanaboy working much better.

[@ZUUL4X4]

I keep a Silky Gomboy 240MM in the truck for emergencies.

[@Tommy-rr7ez]

Please forgive for not knowing but if you don't mind can you tell me what a Silky Katanaboy is?

[@jimForgottenHinterland]

@@Tommy-rr7ezIt is a folding saw made by a Japanese company called Silky. The saw blade is, depending on model, between 18.5 to some 30 inches. It cuts like a chainsaw.

[@Tommy-rr7ez]

@@jimForgottenHinterland I preciate that buddy! WOW that's a long blade and I would say your right I bet that does cut good and fast! Do you know off hand where I can get one? Thanks alot!

[@ROBERTRICHDALE]

Fire, steak, friends and bourbon! Good times..👍

[@RanchoTexano]

My favorite bourbon as well 🦅

[@RevereOverland]

It's the best!

[@RanchoTexano]

@@RevereOverlandused to be easy to find, but now its living up to its Rare name !

[@mustdodiving5263]

Great Video.. I really enjoy your work… I fly my drones over the ocean for whales and stuff… each and every time I bring my drone down I switch memory cards… and mavic 3 doesn’t use cards so I download it as often as possible and with my inspire… not sure which drone you are flying with me… scary to risk it … I’m not professional or getting paid…but footage is too “valuable” to risk… : ) keep up the vgood work.. congrats on the 100K

[@RevereOverland]

I have the Mavic 3 Pro, and Will has the Mavic 3. I use smaller cards so I’m forced to change the card or wipe them sooner!

[@812Taco]

As always, great video!

[@RevereOverland]

Thanks!

[@StevelsCamping]

I've found that putting the chains on the back axel that I had way better results.

[@RevereOverland]

Interesting. I’ve seen people have the opposite experience, but I plan to try chains on the rear on my Tundra (I can’t put them on the front) with socks on the front.

[@Captndarty]

This was epic. It looks awesome. Longer chassis vehicles like trucks seem to get a harmonic frame hop like that. Especially in sand. Also, I see countless videos of people with tens of thousands of dollars of electronics, stoves heaters and gadgets. Everything but a simple battery powered Dewalt chainsaw. What’s up with that?

[@RevereOverland]

Yeah, the Gladiator bed has a lot of flex, and it seemed to be right at the tent and crossbar's resonant frequency. We ALL own DeWalt chainsaws, but none of us brought them! Will, Lance, and Chris all forgot. I brought the handsaw because I didn't have space for my DeWalt in the Jeep on my drive from Kentucky - I brought Will's 392 drawer system with me.

[@Captndarty]

@@RevereOverland well, keep on keeping on. You put out the best cinematic long length features out there. I didn’t know you keep two vehicles. What types of trips determine which one you use?

[@RevereOverland]

@@Captndarty the Jeep is intended for close to home and technical stuff. The Tundra is just out of action this winter as it gets worked on, although it probably would have really struggled in this snow!

[@explor360]

Rob I didn’t realize you had a Jeep. Welcome to the family! Love your long format movies. As far as Will’s tent rocking it’s probably due to the topper he has and that his crossbars are too close together. I don’t have that problem with my Alu-Cab topper on my Gladiator. We’ll be out there next month for 6 weeks, can’t wait!

[@BATTLEBUDDY101st]

Question as you encountered deep snow I know you guys aired down, as to be expected but what gear were you guys on 4 hi? Or 4 low? Any usage of lockers?

[@RevereOverland]

4 low for all of the deep snow. We alternated between open, rear locker, and fully locked. I didn’t see a huge difference between open and locked.

[@BATTLEBUDDY101st]

Thank you ​@@RevereOverland

[@alfa8822]

Nice heater but that’s expensive! Cheapest I could find it for was $1000. Do you have a link to buy the propane heater? Does your heater put out as much heat as Chris’s diesel heater does? What power source did you run yours off of since your friend was using the Bluetti?

[@RevereOverland]

It’s very pricey, but worth it if you’re going on long trips to cold places thousands of miles from home! If you’re staying in state then a less reliable cheap diesel heater will be fine - if it fails, just go home! Our heaters are both rated at 2,000kW, although I feel like mine gets hotter. The tent can easily get over 100° if I leave it on! I ran mine off the 12v output in the back since it doesn’t pull much power.

[@leemen]

Great video. Great to see you back in the jeep. Lol

[@user-ns4io1gz9c]

How do you like the Arcus bumper? Any rust issues or things you like / dislike about the bumper?

[@RevereOverland]

No complaints from me. It’s cheap but does the job.

[@claudiu726]

The frame of the white Jeep is flexing visibly, you can actually see when is bending behind the cabin😂😂 I wonder what it would happen in case of an accident. I saw the Euro Ncap test, it is scary to watch 😅

[@RevereOverland]

Yeah there’s a LOT of flex in that bed/frame

[@chairborne33]

Great video. That was a lot of work to get through all that snow. Huge bummer about the drone. Hopefully it can be recovered later. I know you didn't intend to do a review of the Bluetti system in this video but would consider it as your primary fridge moving forward or stick with what you had before?

[@RevereOverland]

I'll be sticking with my Ironman fridge in the SUV and ICECO in the truck. I think the Bluetti features are neat, but I personally want a fridge to just be a fridge, and don't need a built in battery!

[@chairborne33]

@@RevereOverland personally, I like the battery feature because I need something for kids soccer, beach days and overlanding. I don’t really care for the ice making though. I’d rather have that capacity for cooling/freezing. As you know, space is at a premium in a Wrangler.

[@RevereOverland]

@@chairborne33 it's definitely good for people who want that built in battery!

[@snoozelow8535]

Yes if you chain all four you should be able to go anywhere. that’s what we’ve always done

[@BROVERLANDER]

The second second time I’ve given you a thumbs up, and it never counts him

[@MrJblazejr]

Woooooaahhhh that RTT on that gladiator needs some tlc asap!

[@RevereOverland]

It doesn’t move at all on the highway! The Gladiator bed has a lot of flex, and I think it just happened to be at the resonant frequency of the cross bars and tent. He probably needs new cross bars that are less flexible.

[@RubiconV]

You should put an affiliate link to the snow socks. I need some and would happy to give you a sale.

[@RevereOverland]

They don't have an affiliate program, but you can get them from autosock.us

[@Intrepid17011]

Buy proper Chains my Dude. Socks get damaged almost instantly and they cost the same as proper Chains. Most mountaineous and snowy countries here in Europe dont even allow them since they perform so bad.

[@RevereOverland]

@@Intrepid17011 the Autosock is approved in all EU countries except Austria. They perform about the same in most on-road conditions, although they're definitely not as tough. They're perfect for someone who might only need them once a year since they pack down small and are light.

[@Intrepid17011]

@@RevereOverland Thats true to an extend. They are allowed, but if an area requieres Chains ( on certain roads there are signs demanding you to put on Chains ) you have to switch them out for actual Chains. So it doesnt make much sense to buy them here since you have to buy proper chains anyway :D

[@tothetrail]

@@Intrepid17011 The socks are perfect when you just need them for a short period of time, like getting out of the parking lot at the ski area. Just used them last weekend at Mammoth on the Sprinter. People were stuck all over the lot and spinning tires in the lot. We put the socks on in about two minutes, drove down the icy road back to town, and took them off in about a minute. Only had them on for about ten minutes. We were back in town by the time others got the chains on. Have chains also, and used them to get to June the day before, but the socks are so much easier to put on and off. Both are nice to have.

[@USAF-SF]

I can't believe not a one of you guys had a fishing pole!!!

[@RevereOverland]

None of us are interested in fishing

[@JoseRodriguez-f9y]

I love ur channel I'm an over lander myself

[@GirdlerFamilyOverland]

Is it bad that I was wishing I was on that trip because I often have my rappelling gear lol. I don’t know if it would’ve been possible but it would’ve been fun to try and rappel down to the drone to recover it.

[@RevereOverland]

It probably would make any recovery effort a lot safer! The drone is still there, if you want a free drone!

[@GirdlerFamilyOverland]

@@RevereOverland i’m not sure if that’s hilarious or not but I think Idaho is a little far from Central Texas to snag a drone

[@RevereOverland]

Worth it for a drone? Lol

[@GirdlerFamilyOverland]

@@RevereOverland next time I’m Idaho I’ll check with you or Will…..

[@mariodelrosario9578]

What kind of roof top tent is on the green wrangler, and is it attached to just the rails on the hardtop, or bolted through to the rollbar

[@Venture2Roam]

It's a GFC. They stopped making them though.

[@roblunnen1653]

that shot with the bridge @1:15 I thought was epic. This was a great video. I was wondering if you ever found out why Wills tent was doing what it was at the slow speeds, if seams that would be a problem realy fast.

[@RevereOverland]

Thanks! We were all bouncing when digging into the snow, but it was worst on Will's truck. The Gladiator bed has a LOT of flex, and it seemed to bounce right at the resonant frequency of his tent and cross bars.

[@nickmcgarvey6463]

McCall and the surrounding areas have one of the highest roof snow loads in the country. Destination: Burgdorf is a guaranteed way to get into the deep stuff.

[@RevereOverland]

Even so, we were shocked how little snow there was this year. We really wanted to make it to Burgdorf, but it’s all groomed snowmobile roads.

[@nickmcgarvey6463]

Good job using the fire pan on the Salmon River beach.

[@henrikm4657]

Beautiful scenery. How do you like that "ass fur" 😜skid plate?

[@RevereOverland]

I love how light it is, and they’re a great price! The naming is unique… apparently it’s pronounced a-sphere

[@beckiesmith5095]

Great video as always Rob, you never disappoint. Love that you all have become such buddies helping each other in every way. Nothing you won't try I see. All of you just stay safe and keep the adventures up I'm living through you and your friends.

[@RevereOverland]

Thanks! They're all great guys, so it's easy to make good friends!

[@Venture2Roam]

Going on adventures like this either makes you become good friends or never want to see each other again...and we keep doing them together so I guess that means we're good friends!

[@BROVERLANDER]

This is the second time I’ve given you thumbs up and it doesn’t count it.

[@RevereOverland]

It's the thought that counts... although a real like helps with the algorithm lol

[@bryandale7125]

​@@RevereOverland Grow up son and stop irresponsibly endorsing drugs or alcohol on a public video! These highly dangerous and addictive mind-altering substances have created addicts of countless children, destroyed more relationships, incarcerated more fools, contributed to more sexual assaults, and injured and killed more people throughout time than all wars combined.

[@joemzd]

@@bryandale7125We won’t invite you to the next outing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@fscottgray9784]

GREat video. I am always afraid that the hoards of people in Utah will discover the real scenic place is Idaho and over run our secluded paradise.

[@RevereOverland]

Idaho is really beautiful, but I'd hate for it to be run over like Moab is!

[@wlfires]

Great video but was looking for the method wheel discount didn’t see it

[@RevereOverland]

Whoops, I forgot it! Thanks for letting me know - I’ve put it in the description now.

[@RevereOverland]

Www.methodracewheels.com/revereoverland

[@Song-lj5go]

great video

[@randelldarky3920]

You need a 60V Chainsaw.

[@Venture2Roam]

We all have one...but none of us brought one!

[@stuartb9194]

Great vid as always, but I'm struck that for 4 people, you probably have around $500k of kit. Massive flex or unobtanium for us poors

[@RevereOverland]

I don’t think it’s even close to half that. My used JLU has just over $65k in it with all vehicle mods, including tent, radio, lights, drawer system, etc. Will’s is a mostly stock Gladiator Mojave, which is less, and Chris bought a used modified JKU that he hasn’t had to do much to. Lance’s is the only one I’m not sure about. That being said, I’m not sure it matters. You can do this trip in anything as long as you have the right tools. I think I would have actually preferred to be in my old $15k 4Runner.

[@stuartb9194]

@RevereOverland fair enough, and thanks for the reply. I am just reacting to the rise in these massive 'overlander' trucks I see more and more out on the trails. Agree it can be done cheaper, lighter and with less, but each to their own, i guess. Drive your own drive. It's an interesting contrast to the latest direction in hiking, where the money is being spent on lighter and more minimalist kit. I enjoy your videos either way, thanks

[@Intrepid17011]

Can somebody explain why you guys air down in snow ? Seems counterintuitive in those snow conditions. I would rather air up and apply proper chains ( no socks ) . Doesnt like everybody recommend slightly more tire pressure in deep snow ? At least thats what was in my mind from the austrian automobile club.

[@RevereOverland]

In deep snow you want as much of a contact patch as possible so you can drive on top of the layers. Airing up and adding chains is for digging down, and with 2 feet of snow, that causes problems like we demonstrated.

[@Intrepid17011]

@@RevereOverland Thanks for the elaborate answer. Was always kinda confused since i learned it differently back then. Can you also explain why you go for socks instead of chains ?

[@jasonh4167]

It’s all about ground pressure and floatation, full tire pressure sinks down when tires spun, and chains are a long day in 3-4’ of snow sinks faster.

[@jasonh4167]

4x4 chains were used in the 80’s for icy slope traction. Deep snow you’ll frame out in seconds. Simmular in deep mud.

[@Venture2Roam]

@@Intrepid17011 Socks are not a replacement for chains..they work by letting the snow pack onto the tire, which causes more grip/float..but they don't give better traction in every scenario than chains. Much easier to pack and take on and off though. Rob probably put those socks on 5 times on this trip..and I did chains once and it took me 30 minutes.

[@dizi17]

Like if you liked the video before it started 😅

[@RevereOverland]

I didn’t like my own video lol

[@tomkelly3896]

I tried bluetti...off amazon...lost over 30 percent of its charge overnite without anything plugged into it🤔🤔🤔

[@RevereOverland]

Inverter on?

[@chairborne33]

I have multiple Bluetti devices (as well as some others from other manufacturers). I've never had a problem like you describe. Did you leave the inverter on? It does use power on its own even if nothing is plugged in. All of these types of devices do if the inverter is on.