Should I Buy The Only Unloved Type R? Honda Accord 'Euro' Type R

[@stevenvater2681]

An extremely underrated car. I owned on and it's probably the best car I've ever had. Better daily than my dc5 , and civic R, and even my beautiful 245vrs . It had skiploads of character, the safest best handling .even when 20 years old very reliable never failed to start. Did you realise that cat cosy £25000+ IN 1999

[@ThunderChunky101]

Miss my Accords. Hardly see them anymore.

[@s14asr20det-x9n]

I really loved my Accord Type-R, but it was proving to be tricky to maintain due to the rarity of parts.

[@mindmugger]

You can literally find every possible part for it if you know where to look

[@ivanangelov589]

@@mindmugger Where do we look

[@ivanangelov589]

Which parts?

[@pawegeryk898]

i am user of ATR now, sure, new parts are tnot available anymore in honda dealerships but many of them running many of them are breaking for parts H22 is pile shit(block issue) but you still can get it in worthy condition all is money, theyre not cheap Anymore

[@endless_touge]

I would definitely buy this without thinking twice. Very rare. Very good for cornering. Double wishbone front and rear. While other cars were in movies pretending to be race cars or people thinking they were fast this one made history in BTCC. WTCC . Reliable and definitely the best 4door FWD ever made. Now i cant wait few hours to have time and see this one.

[@stevenvater2681]

Correct

[@FenderUsa]

how does the JDM euro R compare to this? is it worth the extra money? it looks better imo

[@FaTaLGTR]

I love my ATR, but I have to disagree. FD2 is the best 4 door FWD ever made.

[@stevenvater2681]

@@FaTaLGTR I know where you're coming from fd2 is a great car but it's terrible ride exclude it for a daily driver,that's why accord is better imo

[@FaTaLGTR]

@@stevenvater2681 Horses for courses. Better is defined by what you want. FD2 is literally superior everywhere else. For me, that's way better

[@mac_taff514]

Out of the two, it’s got to be the Honda for me, far less trouble in the long run with the Honda build quality and a rarer car on the road

[@tonycamplin8607]

I had one for years and they're fantastic cars. You can drive them "normally" all day with the family in without attracting any attention. They look just like a normal Honda without any boy racer flash, but it'll beat anything in its class. Mine certainly didn't make as much noise as the one that you drove, has it got a modified exhaust. Being so quiet was one of its biggest virtues. A Honda Accord beats any Peugeot in every respect especially build quality, don't even remotely consider buying one if there's a Honda available.

[@hayerubihayerubi5720]

Spot on , I’d take Honda anyday

[@steveberridge4648]

I've driven both and I have think a 306 Rallye would be more fun more of the time, but on the right road the accord is amazing. As you say the chassis is superb and resists understeer so well. The Rallye however is arguably even more talented on a B road. Either would make a brilliant modern classic. I think 1993-1999 really was the golden era of usable, reliable and capable but not over tyred, weight and complex road cars.

[@matt1081]

Great video, that sounds epic. As a former owner of two “similar”cars……a H22a (same engine as this iirc) powered Honda Prelude and a 306 Rallye, I can confidently say the Honda engine was the sweetest. Torque was decent enough as you’ve mentioned and only sacrificed some of the vtec top end of the other hot engines. I love pugs but I’d go for the Honda!

[@The_BenboBaggins]

It came from the golden era of motoring - mid-90s to mid-00s - where cars were big enough but not the bloated boats we have today. The engines were a good mix of performance and economy, without all the fancy crap over complicating them. Just wish they'd done one with BTCC styling :)

[@crgmrgn]

Ordered one of the first into the UK as a company car, it was brilliant. Interior quality was excellent, although not particularly inspired, but all the important touch points were top notch, Momo wheel, brilliant Recaro buckets, beautiful gearbox and titanium shifter … it was a great daily, which would barrel around fine and quietly, riding beautifully with the family loaded up. Then (generally when 1-up) it would transform into a delight, stuning handling, VTEC kick, glorious box … the grip was amazing with the LSD, but to get the best out of the steering it required the custom spec Bridgestone RE71's that Honda spec'ed, they brought the ride quality down a touch (stiff sidewalls) but they tightened the steering considerably again … had the devils own job every time I wore thru a set convincing the fleet mgmt that I/Honda had a single approved tyre (for what fleet just thought was a cooking "Accord"). Mine went back after 2yrs/70k and TBH I missed it for years after … would still rate it today as one of the best 3 box saloons ever made. Personally I'd want the high-level wing (it balances the looks) and an early gen-1 model like this one …

[@richardharries5812]

Hi Jack. I had a 306 gti-6 back in the day which I replaced with an Accord type r. I really enjoyed the 306, it was fabulous but the accord was a truly special. The engine was sublime but in no way did it outshine the chassis.

[@PedroSalgueiro]

I drive a 1.8 every day and love it. Go for the Accord TypeR!

[@Brunosv007]

Me too im from portugal i have 1.8i ls vtec

[@russellbryan2288]

If this particular Accord was for sale you'd be a fool not to buy it. Seems to be really well cared for and it's just hard to go right with a Honda that has been properly cared for. First (1st) to hit the like button. Not sure why Simon Hodgetts didn't hit the like button but he didn't and I did. You are welcome Jack.

[@superduper1254]

This ones not for sale 😁

[@carlwilliams3488]

I ran one for a couple of years and the one criticism I had was that the VTEC engagement was that high and combined with a gearbox that had a tendancy to baulk from 2nd to 3rd meant that sometimes that shift was missed and you'd drop out of the powerzone and it slowed quickly. When buying watch out for a dodgy 5th gear syncro as they fail and need a box rebuild but apart from that they are solidly built

[@jbconno]

I’ve always loved these, very understated Q car looks. I’d have one of these over a Peugeot without a doubt. The Peugeot may be slightly easier to live with as a daily driver as you don’t have to wring it’s neck to get the best out of it but the Accord will be a nicer place to be in.

[@drewsimpson5967]

I agree with Paul. The Accord Type R is a very, very well sorted car. Great steering, chassis and grip, even when pushing hard on wet roundabouts. Its not always about the VTEC engine. It will fall out of the power as if the gear ratios needed more thought. I hope there are still some about as I'd like to revisit it after 20 odd years.

[@bispal]

Glad you liked it, they really are excellent, I really did prefer mine over my e39 M5. Stand out for me is that LSD that pulls you round the bends, as much as a thing as the vtec. Only downside for me was high cruising rpm for long motorway trips, otherwise quiet when you want to it be and fun on the right road. Am I famous now 🤣

[@19keverick91]

How bad was it on motorway?

[@mohammedayub8822]

Had one a few years ago, amazing car. Comfortable on long journeys and brilliant when going for a blast. Miss that car so many good memories. Brilliant allround car as very practical to. This video has got me seriously thinking of buying another one, regret selling old one.

[@InsaneArkitekt]

When I picked up my first ATR at 21 years old, I could not explain the feeling today, it’s such a drivers car so much more involved rather than just planting your foot down

[@irfaan7868]

The NISSIN calipers are similar twin piston as nsx but with a larger carrier to allow for a bigger 300mm discs up front.

[@clivebrackstone1896]

I had a wedge shape CRX v-tech bk in the day.... 1000kg and 160 bhp with that 8000rpm redline was heaven, and by far the quickest hot hatch bk then

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

A 7th generation Honda Accord Euro Type R would be perfect, my dream would be the SPOON model. A Toyota Chaser would be nice to see. Whichever car you get I'm looking forward to the videos. Keep up the good work.

[@dts439]

Accord Type R is a great all rounder. You can drive it under the VTEC all day and its just another euro box saloon, but when the mood takes you you can get it into VTEC and have a blast. The LSD really works. As other people will say the VTEC range is tricky to stay in without going to the redline in each gear - if only they fitted a 6 speed box it would be perfect. I ended up getting mine on a bit of a whim as car I was meant to be buying fell through and I needed to pick up my parents from the airport. Ran it for 3 years and only replaced it when I needed an estate for family duties.

[@organiccold]

Before i even watch the video: yes we had one in the family and we regret so much of selling it. A great car.

[@dantheman7357]

Hello Jack, I think Honda may have totally underestimated the potential popularity of the R in North America. The only R models sold here are tiny little cars that appeal to the young enthusiasts that don't have families yet perhaps. I was never a fan of them but I would have purchased this one for sure. Its looks great and fun to drive hard on a curvy country road but is still a useful vehicle for other driving needs. Another nice review, thanks.

[@TassieLorenzo]

The new 2023 Civic Type R is easily the same size (or larger) than this Accord Type R. A lot of people are complaining about.

[@timmantle7154]

Really happy you did this video. Been looking at these for a couple of years. If you do decide to buy one, good luck finding one that doesn't have rust issues flagged by it's MOT history.

[@alann4984]

Hard to find a 22 year old car without rust that has actually been used I think

[@jimmyfootski9282]

Another blast on Harry's road...............I've owned two ATR's & they're brilliant, though the boxes are weak !!

[@irfaan7868]

I've owned a couple, the steering feel and chassis is pretty special on them, definitely feels like a smaller car than it is. Vtec engagement is prominent, only think I would change is the gear ratios, maybe a shorter final drive to keep it on boil every change. Not everyone can keep them in the power band. I told myself I wouldn't own one again because they rust from the bulkhead which put me off tbh. Great car for the time especially when you consider its rivals. Oh and the catalytic converter on my first one got stolen aswell 🙄

[@alann4984]

No need for the shorter gears if you can manage the change points, have one myself and can keep it in vtec all the way through to 5th.

[@InsaneArkitekt]

So true, but hitting that vtec in 5th gear was a great feeling I’m sure you know 😉

[@81adamlittle]

Beware of Honda paint if you go for red, the Milano red paint on civics of this era was lacquered, the paint fades underneath and only repainting will sort it.

[@endless_touge]

My brother has a 00 red Civic Fastback . Smaller version of this. The factory paint still looking good after 22 years.

[@virgilrytaar9083]

That engine will take any revs if its looked after. I bounce mine off the rev limiter daily. I'm 58 so don't judge me! An engineer mate years ago told me: taking an engine up to its rev limit is like opening a door all the way, the hinges are meant to do that

[@traceurGeorge]

People call these underrated and I find it so strange. I grew up with parents who owned a Mondeo, one day they brought home a second hand accord type s. I absolutely fell in love, everything about that car was cool in my eyes. When I found out there was such a thing and a type r I fell in love. I’ve been thinking of buying one of these now I’m older, hopefully one day I’ll finally get my hands on one, if not just to give it a drive!

[@ramonmedina1974]

I had an Accord Type R! It was one of the best cars I've ever had! Runs and runs and runs! Even with family! Simply great!

[@endless_touge]

I see some people don't like the fact they have to wait for Vtec for maximum power. Just how i don't like how their cars faint over 4k rpms.

[@scottlp2323]

I'm with you on the high revs. I know cars can handle it but I just imagine all of these red hot bits of metal slamming into each other. Crazy. My 308 has a lovely 1.2l 3-cylinder turbo engine that's just a lot of fun. I've taken it above 4 1/2 thousand a few times but, luckily, with that clever turbo, it pulls like a diesel from low revs so I don't have to. Especially in Sport Mode. I never thought 130bhp would be so much fun but, with torque, it is. :)

[@samcourt6228]

@Boony Tooty for quite a long time given the number of leggy Type R’s out there.

[@PatrickTCAPIreland]

@Boony Tooty well a Honda can, not so sure about anyone else

[@robsawalker]

The Honda CBR250RR revved to about 19000 if I recall correctly! Imagine that. Honda produced a racing bike, a six cylinder 250, in the 60s that revved to about 24000 I think!

[@richfixescars]

That's why you buy a Honda, for the quality of the engine.

[@Pionirish]

@Boony Tooty for more 200,000 miles...

[@richardharries5812]

Agree with comments on tyres. A decent set should address the steering as from experience it was not significantly inferior to 306. In all other areas IMHO it was at least a match. The engine was superb and whilst the 306 did not lack in this area it couldn’t match the ATR. The diff was genius and provided incredible traction out of corners that modern hot hatches with their boosted torque simply cannot match. Not driven a better FWD car.

[@geoffclarke3796]

Another great video Jack. I think these are great cars and a massive part of the appeal for me is that brilliant VTEC engine. I had a mildly modified 996 GT3 which revved to 8300rpm and have driven E46 M3's & Ferrari 355's which also require big revs to go fast. I prefer high revving normally aspirated engines to say a modern turbo charged engine where you can make brisk progress with little effort.

[@robbwatson2088]

Can't go wrong with the Honda. I drive a 2020 civic, nonturbo 6spd with a set of Conti sport plus tires. Day in, day out, this car brings a smile to my face.

[@watchmrcontent]

Oooooh, I had 3 Peugeot 306s. First a DTurbo, which was a hoot as there was a massive kick in the back as the turbo came on song, half way through the rev range. Then a 306 Rallye, which was slightly sharper than the GTi-6 but, without aircon or a sunroof was sweatier than the Black Hole of Calcutta when the sun came out. And alongside that, a 306 Roadster, which was a cabriolet with a factory hardtop to bolt on for the winter - almost as swift, but with scuttle shake. They all ensured that, for several years, driving anywhere put a smile on my face. If you get offered a decent GTi-6, take it - you won't regret it (just make sure the aircon works)

[@ryanmccormick2150]

I've always loved the Accord Type R, like you Jack red would be my colour of choice! Great cars and you never ever see them on the roads these days.

[@spacedustdaddy5514]

This was the car that made me switch from VWs to Hondas. All due to James Thompson running the Type R in the BTCC. Living in the states we never got this model, but I had to buy a then new 2001 Accord four door with a manual. I left the states for Australia in 2008 and couldn’t find a Type R. So many Euro Rs I wanted one, but Australian car prices were so high back then(and still are). Anyway, I recently bought an ‘06 Euro w/six speed manual and am still on the lookout for the proper CH Type R.

[@Jez1963UK]

Great video Jack, I don't know what you've done, but the colour grading looks amazing. Plus.... my whole seat was shaking with that engine revving! PS - I have a Honda Accord 7th Gen 2,.4 petrol (the one here is a 6th gen) but I love these cars, they're simply the best :)

[@kevinmcg6747]

Hi Jack, well this reminds me of when I owned an Integra Type R and had a new baby so popped into Honda to test drive a Honda Accord Type R. Within 100 yds I knew it was pretty special and had a maturity that the Integra didn’t. Ultimately I stayed in the Integra but that’s another tale. Ref comments by @Mark, he has a point in that you have to rev the engine to get the best but lordly because it’s built for that it becomes a joy (ran the Integra as an everyday car for 2 years). Ref the corner situation I’d say that’s down to the driver overcommitting than a handling weakness of the Accord? Cheers, Kevin. .

[@honda4185]

Accord Type R in Pirate Black 😍 IT missed the rear trunk wing tho.. but i love everything with the ATR 🤤 The best family car ever!!!!

[@richfixescars]

Honda all day long. I had a 'cooking' 1.8 SE Accord and loved revving it out to the VTEC, and the handling was good for a big car. Quality Swindon product of course! I believe they rust fairly badly especially around the bulkhead, so check that out carefully.

[@mindmugger]

With propper shifting you can keep it in vtec from 1st to 5th... But you have to time the shifts right before fuel cut-off

[@mortofromoz1]

One issue with the 306 GTi 6-speed. The transmission is longer (to accommodate 6th gear), so restricts the amount of RH steering lock making clockwise U-Turns problematic.

[@snape1464]

You can lower the V-Tec crossover electronically. This makes it easier to keep it in there and should ease your mind about driving it hard

[@russhumphreys8109]

I'd driven Integra and Civic Type R's on track and road and really disliked them. Then my son got an Accord and I was a Honda convert! I just loved the engineering, the attention to detail. And if course the engine, but I completely agree with your sentiment regarding the need to keep it at 6k+ and how that doesn't sit well with a mechanically sympathetic mentality I actually loved the steering. But. I then started to use it as an everyday car for work. I fell out of love with it. It's stunning when driven at 90% (of my capabilities😏) but you just can't do that everyday. I'm still very, very impressed by them though. Spot on re. your comment that this type of car doesn't exist now

[@robmorris75]

Excellent review, the roads you used for the test seems familiar, I was thinking Harry's garage use the same maybe 🤔

[@gbspikyfish]

I had the 2.0L (obviously non-R) Accord of this era for many years. Somewhere around 150bhp if I recall correctly. Nice car. OK to drive. Build quality was decent and it was pretty much bomb proof in terms of reliability. The only real weakness was that the engine was pretty gutless at lower rpms, and I used to joke that the AC pump must have taken about 50hp as it really seemed to sap the low end torque further. Never driven the Type R version but it looks like a nice improvement.

[@MrMairu555]

Aaaah.... Having the benefit of high-revving motorcycles and all steel bottom-end Escorts in my yoof... I'm more than happy to rev the nuts off anything! 🤣🤣🤣 V-TEC and Mazda rotaries... love 'em!

[@dolfandon7124]

Hi Jack, for me it's easy, go with the Honda. That amazing engine and the overall package is a winner for a daily. I had a US spec Accord (Acura TSX) with the K24 engine until a texting Neanderthal rear-ended it at high speed.

[@josh7191-j6b]

Hondas Type R's are special breeds...I love them...and that particular engine has so much room for all kinds of upgrades to take to insane levels...one of the best engine's out there for sure👍

[@Hvitserk67]

How about a Peugeot 405 Mi16? I had the "little brother" in the early 90s with the regular 2.0 liter engine of 121 HP (XU10) and it was quite a nice engine. Not quite like the XU9 engine in, among other cars, the 205 1.9 GTI, but pretty close. I think that the steering feel and road feel in the 405 when driving close to the limit was fantastic and very inspiring considering that the car was a family car (in my case a station wagon).

[@paulm114]

Thats the first one I have seen without the rear wing. Looks very under the radar without it.

[@Kasper-qr3in]

I miss mine! I had one in this color as my first car and i loves it

[@baheh1801]

The gear knob hot in summer freezing cold in winter. I'd never thought of the atr being unloved but definitely overlooked and forgotten.

[@SaltySeb15]

Loved mine. Mine was pre facelift and red.. best car I owned.. hate the aftermarket exhaust on the one in the video. All that’s needed is a good induction and it’s a great car.. fit the family in too.

[@stevieboymkii]

Absolutely agree about keeping the car at such a high rev level. If you've not really got much hooligan in you, it just feels wrong. It is nice to hit the VTEC going onto the dual carriageway though - doing it less frequently makes it more special when you do hit that range. It's perfectly quick for normal driving outside of the VTEC though I would say.

[@grayfool]

Go for it. It's a Honda so is one of the best engineered cars around. Fast saloons are just about my own favourite types of car. They can do so many things so well.

[@JSC131]

Hi Jack just come across your channel great content on the Honda fabulous cars and I subscribed.

[@Thatcntwiththecivic]

If your feeling that the VTEC is falling off whilst its engaged towards the higher range of the revs, it could be the VTEC solenoid needing a clean out, the filter can get clogged over time.

[@silvaanosvs8783]

For me, the absolute requirement of a car is that it is reliable. That I don't have to buy, say, a new water pump when there already is one in the car. I assume it was included in the price, so I have already paid for one. Spending money on replacing parts is the least rewarding way I can think of to spend money. It shouldn't have to be your lucky day for you to get there and back again. So, the Honda it is, then.

[@seanmcneill8899]

Generally forget how many cars I have had over the years but always wanted to own a Honda accord type r just love them.😎

[@trustgtr33]

these are really fun cars to own..go for it, an upgraded suspension, wheels and tyres would make it much sharper

[@Lot76CARS]

Operating a bit below the radar (unlike the Civic Type R) has great appeal (to me, at least). The D segment (as it was has gone), the Mondeo ST, Accord Type R and Vauxhall GSi / VXR have gone for good, seize the chance to have one Jack!

[@graemewilson1400]

I think your 100% right. Below the radar is really nice 👌. I have a 93 Subaru RS, not sure if you got them in England, but I'm sure you know of them. The thing is quick, quiet, and comfortable and like the cars you mentioned you just don't see them any more. Does that make them more appealing, to me a little yes.

[@craiggreen4388]

Yes. Go for it. I opted for an EP3 over one of these about 8 years ago. I wish I'd got the Accord. I'm now in a 7th gen Accord which is just sublime though not as quick as the Type R. As for why they are unloved, these were a European model only & don't score any kudos within the global Honda community. The Japanese Accord developed a response to this car with the 'Euro R', if your budget stretches to one of these, it's even better still.

[@Sandy-oy2lr]

I have a '17 Mz3T 2.5L manual as my daily I really enjoy driving. Especially with summer HP tires, But, this Honda is a car I would probably enjoy a lot as well. Perhaps even more. I wish cars like these were still being produced.

[@stratomix333]

That's the beauty of Vtec engines. You have a 2 in 1 (everyday + race engine). Honda and Toyota also, they know how to make these things handle 7K rpms.... After a "trip" if you keep it in the Vtec zone, check the oil; these things like to drink some and it's totally fine. One more thing on oil, 10W60 fits it perfectly.

[@64-bitMicro]

Coming from NZ I'm so confused with this car, I've never seen it before. We have all the JDM cars here in NZ as used imports. There's two cars I've driven that could be similar, both brilliant. The CL1 Torneo/Accord Euro-R with the H22A vtec motor with 240hp, and the quite different CL7 Accord Euro-R with the K20A at around 217hp. My pick was the CL1. I'm fascinated what this actually is, we had something badged as a Rover here that looks similar.

[@endless_touge]

This was made in Uk. For Europe only. Mechanically is similar to Prelude. H22 engine and similar suspension. European Civic Aerodeck / Fastback are the smaller brothers of this

[@mrsquishyboots]

@@endless_touge I thought the accord Euro R had the f20b

[@64-bitMicro]

@@mrsquishyboots We had a JDM import that was very similar to the CL1 Accord/Torneo Euro-R called the Torneo SiR-T that had the f20b engine, but not the carbon backed recaro seats and trim of the Euro-R. I believe it may have been rarer. While I haven't driven the f20b car, many have told me that it was a favourable vehicle on track with a slightly different weight distribution to the h22a although lower power output.

[@mrsquishyboots]

@@64-bitMicro even when K series were available ive seen people choose the f20b in their show cars due to its rarity

[@endless_touge]

@@mrsquishyboots it has H22 but slightly more power than the regular Prelude. 212hp. Lsd gearbox and body reinforcement from factory. Basically was a very limited street edition made by Honda because they needed the homologation of the race version. Anyone comparing this with a Peugeot or other car in the same budget is very naive

[@ricbrook7059]

Killer for these was the insurance. I got quoted £3k for one when my MR2 was £400!

[@Gofast1234]

Yes !! 👏👏,, Prob the most under rated type R ever 🚀 ,, Also have a load of performance upgrades for the ATR if needed 😜

[@tris10g]

My favourite car I have owned. Mine too was in pirate black. Really miss that car.

[@the5th2000]

I really want one of these for my practical daily. There are hardly any in Ireland though, and with tax and stuff it doesn't really make sense to import one. There are plenty of CL7s around, but I just prefer these for the sleeper factor...

[@BennysBenz]

As I was sitting having lunch watching this video. I thought hmmmmm why don't I remember this car? Then I remembered BECAUSE THE US NEVER GETS THE COOL CARS!!!! Anyway looks like a practical daily.

[@parrotraiser6541]

If you grew up with BMC 'A' series motors, Hondas all seem to run best in "grenade" territory.

[@nickblundell9990]

I truly am not a fan of Japanese cars,there are exceptions obviously and this is one of them,what a superb car!!

[@BrenTravisMusician]

My job gave me an Audi TT 225 BAM in 2001. I got on the M1 slip road at Wakefield A638 with a Honda Accord Type R up my arse and we both wanted to have a laugh. I swear to go I could not get rid of that guy and we wound up pulling alongside and showing respect. His car was better. Great video Number 27.

[@Birmingham_racing]

Underrated and rare

[@InsaneArkitekt]

I had 2 of these pre facelift as this looked so much meaner, but you need the spoiler and it isn’t the fastest car in the world but remember it is a 5 door saloon, and at one time I stayed on the bumper of a peugout RCZ-R which has way more power round a B road, it was on rails best car I’ve ever owned

[@GPSOMG-]

The car you have just been test driving I used to see a few of them in the day when I used to own my Vectra ST200 was a V6 with the 24v engine very rare car these days I suggest you give one of those ago? if you're lucky enough to find one, 200 bhp Super Touring Vectra generation very fun car to drive. Much regretted getting rid of it 18 years ago.

[@bobmizen1]

When you said 'those series of corners' didn't you mean 'Jacks Bend' 😄. Another great video, thanks Jack, Bob M.

[@reglockyer9234]

I'd fortgotten about these until yesterday when i saw the Charoundan chap taking one around the Nurbergring.I really fancied one back in the day but even 2nd hand ,neglected with holes in the seats,they were too much money.When Car Magazine first tested an EP3 Civic type R they took it to the IOM where the traffic police had The Accord Type R ,in order to look after the bikers so it was plenty quick enough. Compared to Plods Accords,Honda had definitely moved the game on with the civic,by all accounts.But these are really affordable now.

[@seshelbow336]

Get some nice stiff walled tyres like Bridgestones and the steering is among the very best FWD cars.....probably its best quality.

[@TassieLorenzo]

The latest model Potenza Sport is designed in Italy and has slightly softer sidewalls now unfortunately. I'm a big fan of the previous Potenza S007A model from Japan, but that's discontinued now. 😐 [Either of these are a big improvement over the Potenza S001 which became really outdated and unfortunately gave Bridgestone a little bit of a bad reputation in the OEM fitment market.]

[@Richard_Prime]

Had one of these loved it. Buy one youll grow to love it.

[@IAMJASON444]

I've got a 2000 W ATR in Vesuvio red that's been dry stored for 13 years so is free of the rust issues plaguing many of these now, Motivated to either sell or recommission it, I think it's classed as a barn find because it's got a substantial layer of dust that seems to add value to retro cars 😉

[@pluscestlongplusçapasse]

And why not a 3g gen prelude ?

[@donutdemon1]

How about the Citroen Xsara VTS? Which is underneath a 306 gti 6 but with even better handling and is car which you never see now...

[@garrydiggins3181]

I know where you’re coming from with the revs I have an E 36 M3 Evo that likes being high up in the rev range especially in third gear but find it hard to drive it like that all the time as you think you’re going to kill it but at the end of the day it’s made for

[@superduper1254]

The accord revs much easier and is happier to stay high in the revs. Being fwd it's very different to the e36 and much easier to drive flat out.

[@aston-martin-internationalist]

I have this same issue with the V8 Vantage, all the power is right up past 4k and develops peak power right to the red line (it too has variable valve timing). I wish the torque was lower down because like you, I don't like to keep ragging the engine to get that power although it does sound wonderful when doing it. Manifolds and sports cats fix that on this particular car and brings the torque in lower down the range because sometimes you want things a little more effortless. Always liked this shape of Accord, I think it's a handsome shape in the saloon form which is the one to have and who doesn't love the wheels on the Type R! Enjoy the GTi-6, I had the precursor to that car in the form of the very rare Citroen ZX 16v, a car I truly regret selling (along with my 300zx).

[@alistairneish5033]

Really needs the rear spoiler. seems to be missing the strut brace also. bloody miss mine!!

[@Buck3366]

The gearknobs are great… until you grab one after a scorching day and get a Home Alone type moment when you have a gated gear pattern burned in your palm ✋😖. In all seriousness my EP3 Type R did get somewhat tiresome on longer journeys and the constant wringing it’s neck to extract the power did see me back in a 2.0 Turbo after a couple of years. The Accord does have its charms though. Regarding the GTI-6 my cousin has 3. Bit bland on the styling for me but a cracking little car.

[@paulboyle6857]

This has got me thinking.I like both Honda & Peugeot but both quite rare now so almost certainly not "banger" prices.I,m looking for another car,something vaguely interesting & not too recent as can,t stand modern "gizmos"! Any ideas please share.I must come to drive these roads(nr Charlbury?)I went to school at Kingham near "Chippy" so know area quite well.Chrs PB

[@scrubblybubbly8816]

Amazing cars,love mine,a few mods and they go really well. Just make sure you check the bulkhead for rot!!!!🤣👍

[@jo05dk]

I think i would prefer the 306 for a daily fun car, because i prefer a smaller and more nimble car, but of the Type R-cars this is by some margin my favourite. I'd have it in white, or red as a second option. Have loved them since i watched Jeremy Clarkson review one on Top gear.

[@blex5579]

this one as a station wagon- would still buy it!

[@stoocollins7428]

lol at the number of people saying high revs is bad.

[@michaeljoyce8410]

There is one on Auto T @ £4950, 98k. Needs some recommissioning, nothing major by the look. Check it out….NO it’s not mine! 😂

[@Paul-Kersey33]

Im in love with my Accord k24 CL9 facelift Type S

[@superthierry1]

What a great car. The wing back recaros and screaming Vtec make you feel like a racing driver. The rear spoiler wing is missing. 🥹That’s what makes it a Type R..😎

[@judih.8754]

This is the Acura TSX in the US. Smaller than the US spec Accord.