Should I get a Gas or Diesel Truck? Which one is Better? 🤔

[@mrhorspwer]

Point to diesel: Wedging a truck + trailer, especially a long trailer, into a gas station can be dicey. Most are designed for cars and not rigs that large. Diesel gets you into the big truck lanes for refilling, which can have their own problems, but maneuvering space isn't one. Point to gas: 1) If you're a weekend camper and otherwise daily commute your big new diesel to/from work, you're going to run into the scenario where you arrive at your destination in the middle of a regen cycle and have to wait with the truck running (or keep driving around) for the regen to complete. Stop and go driving loads up the DPF and it's going to regen when it needs to regen, whether it's convenient for you or not. 2) Modern gas engines, I'm talking Ford 7.3L, GM 6.6L, and even Ram 6.4L (the old man of the group), aren't yesterdays gas engines. They all make great power/torque and coupled to a modern multi-speed transmissions (10-speed for Ford/GM and 8-speed for Ram), the towing experience is solid. It's not the old days of a 260hp Triton 5.4L in front of a 4R100 4-speed, downshifting at every highway overpass. The ratio spread in a 10-speed transmission gives many more options to put the engine right where it needs to be in the torque curve.

[@mmmd3429]

I find plenty of places out West to get gas with a trailer and no issues. Mixed with diesel pumps as well. RV lanes are popular as well and provide diesel/ gas. The 7.3l Godzilla is a beast! 44' 5th wheel? Diesel all day.

[@npfish]

Yes, this may be more of an east of the Mississippi issue. I double tow out west and I don't worry about filling up. Plenty of truck stops/larger fuel stations out here

[@rollingacresfarmstead206]

anymore regens will pick up where they left off if you shut down

[@meatrobot]

The gas station thing is why my gasser holds 75 gallons. 👍🏻

[@richardfreezy4369]

I run gas and he’s quite correct. Some stops are tricky to get into

[@smonroeh]

People are looking for the gas engine 3/4 and 1 tons because they don't want to deal with the emissions hassles with the diesels nowadays

[@outbacker292]

Exactly.....plus cost.

[@donniebagwell9536]

It doesn't cost much at all to delete a Duramax 😂ask me how I know?

[@wiliamowens]

Spot on Josh!!! In the last 5-7 years the new gas engine/transmission combos have changed the game. They have moved the weight where you start wanting/needing a diesel from around 10k lbs to around 15k lbs. My single rear wheel F-350 with the 7.3 and 4.3 gears handles my 14k lb Brinkley Z3100 very well and I’ve got plenty of payload at 4204lbs. These gasses are perfect for most RVs. When you get to the big triple axle rigs, a diesel dually is the way to go.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty for sharing the towing experience on your Brinkley

[@nolandenton1224]

Just drop the mic, Josh. You covered every point that led me to a Ford SuperDuty F250 7.3L Godzilla gasser. Towing load of current RV, frequency of trips, primary vehicle use, maintenance. Nothing to add.

[@gemchick82]

Ditto. I also had no desire to learn about the regen cycle nor looking and/or carrying for def fluid.

[@mmmd3429]

7.3l Godzilla is a beast. Glad I didn't go with diesel! Avoiding headaches by going gasser.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow ty

[@c1dancer]

that is why we also went with the 7.3l gas. great truck and great for towing

[@jacquesspliethof6141]

You might want to look at total miles you can get out of that engine. I think the diesel leads in that category.

[@athensdawgs81]

EPA emissions rules have ruined the diesel engine. If you’re only towing a 5th wheel the new Ford 7.3L gas with 4:30 gears in a 1 ton has an over 20K# tow capacity and has no issue doing it. Chevy and dodge are coming with revamped heavy haul gas motors as well. There are dozens of videos out their with guys towing heavy loads in the Rocky's with the 7.3L gas motor with no issues. I'll add one thing that was not covered in this video that is a win for the gas motor. When, not if the emission gear fails on the diesel you're looking at $10-15K to repair or replace it. Really if anything fails on the diesel the repair bill is usually north of $10K. A failed injection pump can be a $20K repair bill and they all basically run the same injection pump from Bosch. It sucks! The EPA has ruined them.

[@fuzzywigglebutt]

Gas engines aren't cheap on repairs now days either. On an F150 running the 3.5 Ecoboost my extended warranty just paid $4K to replace the cam phasers at 61,000 miles. This truck only towed a 7K trailer occasionally and it still broke. 🙂

[@pistolcutler4874]

Diesel all the way. Hills you can't beat them fuel economy can't beat them and with the Ram the exhaust brake you can't beat them.

[@Crownvictoria2005]

This is why we chose to get a gas powered class A. The added maintenance of the diesel and supporting systems really set us on gas. I go slow up hills but that’s fine. Blinkers work great.

[@michaelalfieri659]

Super happy with my 23 f-350 stx with the 6.8 gas and 10 speed. Towing a 23 jayco eagle 31mb 5th wheel out west in the elevation and the wind with no issues. Often tows in 7th and 8th gear on the hwy without excessive downshifting, super stable and plenty of power. Saved 13 k vs the identical diesel truck, absolute no brainer for me. For those curious I'm averaging 8.2mpg so far this season with this combo.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Man that’s great to hear Ty

[@michaelalfieri659]

Made the wife watch both videos you did on the 31mb about 9 times as we made our final decision picking a bunkhouse 5th wheel. Soon as we realized it was possible to reach the fridge on the road with a mid bunk floorplan we were sold! Thanks for the great content we wouldn't have realized this without it!

[@jonandkariwalter2074]

I love my diesel power while towing but when something breaks it costs 3 to 4 times what it costs to fix a gasser

[@markchilders9821]

Thank you Josh! Just bought my first Diesel. Ram 2500 w/ Cummins. I was absolutely SHOCKED at how low the payload was! I expected to be able to pull anything in the world with a 2500 Diesel!!! I felt MANLY! (Honestly GM w/ similar engine has much better payload but a MUCH stiffer ride so we went willingly to the Dodge. Rides like a cloud w/ Coil Springs) We only get about 2100 lbs. of payload. Our BRINKLEY TT is right at 11K lbs. loaded and 1100 lbs. tongue weight. With 120 lb. WD Hitch, Passengers and bikes in the truck bed, we only have about 225 lbs. of payload to spare! ALL THAT SAID, having towed with a gas Hemi for 20 years, this truck wins for 1.) Ease of using truck lanes is almost worth ANY hassle of having a Diesel. 2.) T O R Q U E ! Smooths out the ride! No ROAR of mega revving going up a mild incline. 3.) Not sure HOW but our 2500 Ram Diesel Big Horn was on fire sale and was priced only 3K more $ than the comparable 2500 Gas. We were able to get the Diesel for about the same price. 4.) and finally, All of my friends have Diesels so now I can sit at the cool kids table! :-)

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

lol enjoy 285 or 295 Brinkley?

[@pnwdweler4100]

It’s the coil springs on the Ram 2500 that kills the payload. The Ram 3500 has leaf springs and has payload comparable to the GM/Ford 3500’s. My 2024 GMC Sierra 2500HD has just under 3400lbs of payload.

[@ryanmcguire9335]

This is why I bought a Ram 3500 Cummins. I think the Ram 2500 only makes sense if you're buying gas because the diesel payload is terrible.

[@aaammm1033]

I have nearly 400k miles on a f350 with the 6.2 gas. It's been extremely reliable. My camper is only 9k. I probably will be upgrading to the 7.3 gas soon. I work on diesel trucks for a living and know what to expect for maintenance on a diesel. Id rather spend the extra money on fun.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow that’s great

[@DavidKroff]

I have a dodge ram 3500 with 520,000 miles. Changed the injectors a couple times and 2 starters and alternators. Replaced the transmission at 384,000. I haul a 8 horse trailer. And go through the mountains in Arizona all the time. Wouldn't trade it for anything but another one

[@albe23]

Only thing I would add is that since diesel is running at a lower RPM it is generally a more comfortable tow as the noise from a higher revving gasser can get annoying.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

It’s incredible the noise cancelling some trucks have now too

[@msheron]

Gas vs Diesel is simple on a few fronts.......RV weight first. A lot of fifth wheels will exclude gas right from the bat. But then if you have a lighter fifth wheel like we do in a Grand Design 28BH, a gas like our F250 7.3 gas will easily tow it. Then you have to think on other equipment you may tow on a daily or weekly basis, you may need a diesel. But for most of us that do have a RV we get a HD/SD truck for specifically doing that work only. Remember this..........once the warranty is over, a diesel cost you way more than gas in the shop. And the other thing some don't understand.......not all diesel mechanics are created equal! I good one will cost you per hour as compared to the dude that barely passed diesel school....just sayin folks! Ask me how I know! So.....me it is RV PIN weight and total weight compared to the trucks payload and tow rating as compared to the gasoline truck or diesel truck's rating. There are a few other considerations I plug in but these are the most basic you look at. We had a RV dealer trying to tell us a EcoBoost 6 would tow a big ole trailer. Well, maybe so for a bit, but longevity and with heavy duty brakes and suspension I knew a Super Duty was the way to go and have more truck than I would ever need.

[@lowblueranger]

23 f250 lariat with Godzilla 7.3 here. Didn’t need the diesel, and was 10-12k more expensive up front. Be aware if you are getting a gas heavy duty truck, the first thing people say when checking it out is “why didn’t you get a diesel?”. lol I just about go through all the things Josh mentioned.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I think a lot of times people like to think one is just better than the other but that’s rarely really the case

[@outbacker292]

Personal preference is also a huge factor in this discussion. I bought a 2023 F-350 lariat SRW with the 6.7 standard output diesel. I pull my 34' 8000lb travel trailer occasionally during the camping season. The truck isn't my daily driver. Before my current truck, I had a 2012 F-250 with the 6.7 diesel. I got used to pulling with a diesel and didn't want to change that with my new truck. I know that 7.3 godzilla would do just fine for my towing needs, but again, personal preference.

[@z50king29]

I went with a Ram 2500 with 6.4 gas and 8 speed transmission for our 30 foot travel trailer they we tow around 7k loaded. It'll climb the steepest freeways at 65mph if you really want it to but I don't need to go that fast.... Just keep it with the trucks doing a respectable speed. It was $10,000 less than the same truck with a diesel and diesel emissions system on a Ram sounds like a nightmare.... Also diesel 2500 with a 10k payload capacity leaves you with 1800 to 2200 pounds payload... Mine has 3400 pounds payload capacity

[@ronseidel4244]

I tow a 34’, 11,300 lb fifth wheel with my 2020 F-350 with the 7.3 Godzilla and 10 speed transmission. I’ve towed it over 45,000 miles. I’ve towed it up Wyoming Hwy 14 up to Cody Wyoming. Steepest twistiest road I’ve ever driven . No problem! 2nd gear all the way up and 2nd gear all the way down, no need for diesel engine breaking! I’ve never had any issues at a gas station either…just have to be careful! Love my gasser! Wouldn’t have a diesel unless I absolutely needed one! Good video Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty Ron. Appreciate you sharing

[@tomstone8976]

we switched from 3/4 gas to 3/4 diesel a couple of years ago. One of the factors i enjoy is ease of fueling using trucker pumps. Lot of stations have the pumps facing the building making approach or exit of the pumps difficult. Especially if it is a busy station. Diesel has created a much less stressful travel day in ease of fueling as well as overall ease of towing. 30ft TT 11,000 to 12,000 lbs. I used to try and get a run going down hills with the gas truck would not downshift so hard trying to go up the next hill. (Iowa midwest not Mountains). We pretty much only use it to tow the RV. Nice video.

[@scottynails]

I agree with you 101% we have about the same setup. (We have a GMC Denali hd DIESEL/ALLISON.) pulling a TT. And we use it a lot 25k miles in travel in 2 yrs..and it's almost only used to travel.as we have other vehicles. But we are thinking of making the jump to a 5th wheel under 11k in weight.

[@mmmd3429]

7.3l Godzilla can tow that easily without a strain. Things have changed.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That’s good stuff. Awesome input. Ty

[@Lq32332]

@@mmmd3429It can also chew up lifters and cam shafts. 😂

[@mmmd3429]

@@Lq32332 I drive one for personal use and towing and 3 others for work. They have been tanks.

[@chips1a]

My advice is if you know your getting a truck and you know your going to tow anything , get the heaviest duty truck you can get. Meaning in most applications a 3/4 ton or a 1 ton. I say this because even if your towing a small trailer, the bigger trucks handle the trailer so much better, bigger brakes, heavier axles, heavier frame and it will make a small trailer like nothing is there. I prefer diesel because you get better mpg towing. When I go on a trip I can go way farther on less dollars even at a higher price of diesel fuel.

[@chrisbalough8196]

A well equipped half ton pairs up with a pretty wide range of trailers and may fit better into daily life for many people too. It is a matter of where you choose your compromises......same deal with gas v diesel, trailer styles, floorplans.....

[@DavidKroff]

​@chrisbalough8196 I have a 1/2 ford with a v8. I wouldn't pull anything very heavy or very far.

[@gerardogonzalez8076]

In most instances, payload is the big difference. To get the same payload you get in a let’s say RAM 2500 , you need to go a 3500 or even 3500 dually

[@dougarmstrong5215]

One thing not mentioned is the lack of gas 3/4 ton trucks to buy. When I bought my diesel on 2020 there were no gas models in my area.

[@LouieTeffeteller]

My idea was i wouldn't buy a diesel unless i needed it. 7500 GVWR trailer and about 8k miles per year. My 3/4 ton gasser will serve me well for many many years. I will say, however if anybody is reading this is truck shopping and debating between a 3/4 or half ton, buy the 3/4 ton. The difference in comfort while towing is night and day, even with smaller trailers.

[@jennifermartin506]

Go gas. The newer diesel cost too much to maintain. Add in the DEF. Replacing the injectors. EPA regulations ruined the diesel truck.

[@Redfour5]

FOR ME, it is a Ram 2500 Hemi. My truck is primarily for towing the loaded 7K 800/900 tongue weight and I do not want to deal with the logistics of Diesel. Having run into the payload limitations of a half ton (1500) Ram, I also don't want to deal with THAT issue which can arise with an HD Diesel. So, I'm doing around 10K miles a year primarily towing and some light offroading while camping along with some transfer stations duties. I also have a 3060 lb payload and a 15K max tow capability. I am good to go... My daily driver is a Gladiator which is perfect for more heavy duty off roading locally and most trash runs to the transfer station. So, FOR ME, it's gas. Oh, and maybe soon to be gone, but I love the Hemi rumble... 392 cubic inches of gas sucking power.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Gas sucking power lol Passes everything but a gas pump!

[@ldcooper1]

Love my exhaust brake with my Cummins. Would most likely buy a gasser if I wasn’t traveling as much to Yuma from BC and running the Coquihalla 3 to 4 times a year. ( Highway to hell). My diesel is basically a tractor and not a daily driver. Good comments.🇨🇦

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah thru inclines hard to beat diesel benefits

[@TroyGWarner]

When you have 7 and 8 percent grades--diesel. The pulling power is handy but the exhaust break is a big advantage.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻

[@BuddaCast]

You did an excellent job on this. When we were looking for our current truck (3500 RAM Dually Megacab), we were astounded at how the gas trucks stacked up to and surpassed the diesels in most categories. That being said, we were going really roomy (in RV and in truck seating-family of 5) and needed a dually to give us the capacity, and that is where diesel won for us.

[@davidcantrell5763]

Great points Josh. The safety factor of the diesel exhaust systems cannot be overstated. Also, the ease of getting fuel goes to diesel. The ability to use truck stop big rig lanes reduces so much stress knowing you don't have to find and navigate a station to get to the gas pump with a trailer in tow. I am convinced that a diesel as an everyday driver when NOT under load is detrimental to the motor. Diesels need to work, if not the filters have reduced life, and the regeneration cycles increase significantly. Thanks for all you do for the Herd!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻 great points

[@andrewb981]

A big factor to consider is the transmission. Now the trucks like the Chevy three-quarter ton comes with the Allison transmission. I would say that the gas engine in that application is perfect for 99% of the people at tow campers.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

That allison transmission is so great for inclines

[@JandAReview1]

I have a 3/4 ton gas for the reason that it’s an everyday driver. It definitely pulls our TT with no problem. Some really great points you covered, Thank you Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks for sharing

[@oldengineer1519]

Diesel engines are not only more expensive than gas engines but also weigh more so reduce available payload. The difference can be a few hundred pounds. I think a decent generalization as to which is better can be based on approximate miles driven. For folks who tow under 5K/year a gas will generally be more economical when you compare engines costs and fuel costs together. Between 5K and 10k miles per year it gets a little muddy but this is where diesel starts to be better than gas. Over 10K it is pretty much a diesel world. There are some caveats. If a person spends a lot of time driving at higher altitudes a diesel with its turbos will perform better than a naturally aspirated gas engine. In this situation I would ignore the cost differences and go diesel. If the gas engine has a turbo, though I am not aware of any in the 3/4 and 1 ton class at this time, then I would still go by the under 5K = gas, 5K - 10K either/or, over 10K diesel.

[@timmcnulty1531]

I like the points you made about gas vs diesel. I've made the very same points numerous times. However, there is one point you may not have thought of. Refueling with the trailer. Yes a shorter trailer will never be an issue at a normal gas station. A big long trailer can be an problem at many stations. I know a few people that switched from diesel to gas, pulling a 38+' trailer. Some have said they have to find a lot, unhook the trailer, go refuel the truck, then go hook the trailer again. With a diesel, you can use the semi lanes at truck stops. Yes some truck stops have RV lanes with gas and diesel,but not all of them have RV lanes.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Considered but didn’t get into it here. Easier to find gas. But easier to find diesel pull thrus

[@ericoswald2279]

Well said. We are within 3 years of retirement and pulling a 35 foot Brinkley. We bought the diesel with the thought that we will be more full time when we retire and want the torque to travel out west and in hilly country. The truck is not my daily driver and is used almost exclusively for the fifth wheel. My brother got a 2024 f250 with the Godzilla and it is impressive. I do like my diesel a little better despite the increased cost.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Diesel definitely reigns for mountains and steep grades

[@jerroldahner4958]

One thing I have found pulling a 37 foot travel trailer with both gas and diesel, pulling in at a gas station with a gas truck can be challenging when towing an RV. Where as with a diesel I can pull through on the semi side of a truck stop a lot easier pulling a 37 foot RV.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah gas is more common but diesel stations often have more pull thrus

[@davidbishop466]

I have a GMC Sierra 1500 with the Duramax 6 cylinder. The fuel mileage is fantastic. Life time mileage is 27/gal. This truck gets 30/ gal hwy. The diesel engine was only a little more expensive. (Hundreds not thousands more)This truck is ideal for a Rockwood Mini lite 2205s.

[@duragizer444]

Same, I've got a '21 Sierra 1500 with the 3.0L duramax and love it. I get similar mileage and when I tow my Jayco White Hawk 27RB I get around 13 which is nothing to scoff at!

[@markwiegard8384]

The new diesel trucks have new pistons that help with gas mileage and noise reduction. It’s hard to tell if a truck is diesel or gas today. The newer diesel, at least for the Chevy 6.2 engine, oil and fuel filter cost is around $110 at the dealership. My 2017 Titan 5.0 Cummings cost $500 every 5000 miles (the manual says you can go 10,000 miles between changes). In tow mode and depending on the weight, wind, and outside temperature the Chevy 6.2 averages about 12 miles to the gallon. The Cummings 5.0 should go 400,000 - 500,000 miles with maintenance. I’m not sure about the newer diesel motors. Repairing a diesel is at least twice as much than gas. You’ll need a diesel mechanic. That’s all I got 🤷‍♂️

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah the noise reduction on modern diesels is impressive

[@marginbuu212]

Been towing with a diesel for years. I'll be moving to gas just because of the DEF requirements on new diesel engines and the other EGR nonsense that comes with it. Plus if you ever have an issue with your diesel engine, I've run into issues in the past just trying to find a shop with a diesel mechanic. Things to think about.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

The mechanic aspect is a good point. Ty

[@ResQmomKim]

EXHAUST BRAKING!! 'Nuf said! If you know, you know

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah for ups and downs diesel is great

[@bobconner422]

You know 😮😮

[@bcrawford9072]

I can't wait to see the new gas cummins. That's coming out. Word on the street is it will be gas like a diesel engine.

[@nea273]

I switched from 2019 1/2 tons 3.5 Ecoboost (with engine break) to 2019 3/4 tons gas. No regrets more than enough. No reason to deal with the diesel cost and hassle.

[@bigjohnd1973]

100% this is THE reason I went from HEMI gas to Cummins diesel

[@thinkifarted]

I appreciate the honesty!! I pulled a 34ft 5th wheel 11k loaded with a Ram 2500 6.4 SRW for a very long time with zero issues. Though I did feel if we towed anything bigger or heavier it wouldn’t be as safe. I ran across a heck of a deal on a Ram 3500 6.7 DRW and tow the same 5th wheel like it doesn’t exist. As you said though, oil/filters/DEF can be pricey but if the truck can hold on a few hundred thousand miles then I’m cool with it. She’s definitely too much truck for my current rig but I see an upgraded 5th wheel in the future.

[@papablue5665]

Bought 3/4 ton gas. We look for larger gas stations like loves. Yes can be challenging but ok. We went over the 3 passes, west of alamosa, wolf creek, and pass going into taos. Did just fine. But also infrequent campers, like 6+ trips a year.

[@bparkinson1234]

I have a 23 f350 7.3 gas 373 gears with the ten speed. Drove a powerstroke 7.3 for 26 years. Also am a diesel mechanic. Could not buy a new diesel to much complexity cost and unreliability. Just pulled camper from Colorado to Texas to Florida to Maine and back 9800 miles. The new Godzilla 7.3 in tow mode has more power and quiet than before. Also same fuel mileage.maintenance cost is far less. Engine braking in tow mode down shifting when brake is tapped was amazing. Go test drive one. Also over 80 percent of the trucks in the campgrounds were gas. Used to be diesels. Also people with gas grocery getters 150s 1500s tundras where pulling 30ft plus rvs. I’ll stick with my superduty long bed 😅I’ll let the folks schlep out the boxes of diesel extorsion fluid. Not me. Also do not let the new diesels idle or take short trips. Regen on the side of the road is not fun.

[@jetdriver]

In researching this subject I’ve spoken with a couple of people who manage large fleets of HD trucks. These are people whose trucks are working hard hauling loads every day and are the ideal use case for a diesel. What they have told me is that there is no economic argument for the diesel engine. They say it will cost more to buy upfront, own and operate, and won’t return better resale than a gas engine. They say the ONLY reason you buy diesel is because you need or just want that level of power. Buying a diesel will always be more expensive period. On the resale side having looked at used car valuation tools the average price difference between gas and diesel in used trucks is around $6000. Since the option cost $10,000 that means you take an extra $4000 hit when you sell your truck. As a matter of opinion I think the exhaust brakes are seriously overvalued. If you slow down and get in a low gear with the gas engine the occasional use of brakes to keep your speed under control isn’t going to cause you any issues even on a long steep downgrade. I do get the comfort factor of the effortless low rpm tug up the grade and the exhaust brake managing things for you on the way down. But that’s a convenience it’s not a must have for safety.

[@scottynails]

guess the radio is a comfort. But nice to have. So is the engine brake. Works great on my DENALI HD when in the Rocky Mountains pulling over the continental divide.

[@larryovercast757]

I live and tow in the Rockies. The exhaust brake works great on our roads that have 6-8% grades. You can just set the cruise and forget it. Likewise pulling those grades is easy with my Duramax. I went from a gas towing a 28’ bumper pull to a Duramax and it’s night and day difference. I’ve since upgraded to a 3500 dually to tow my fifth wheel. The stress level reduction and performance are 100% worth it to me but I realize those are subjective and a personal preference.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I’ve had similar talks with business owners about diesels. But they are definitely capable of serious work

[@Toddstjohn]

One thing I would certainly consider is the lack of places to get fuel with a gasoline truck towing any kind of a larger trailer. It would be really easy to get yourself in a bind in a gas station.

[@jetdriver]

There are WAY more stations that don’t sell diesel compared to those that sell both. You’re far far more likely to have trouble finding fuel in with a diesel.

[@billmunn234]

100 % agree. While I did choose a gasser, towing a trailer into many gas stations is the WORST compared to the stations that have separate diesel pumps.

[@benrawe3916]

Gas pumps are easier to find. Deisel pumps are more likely to be accessible while towing.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Hmm.. I feel like there are more gas-only stations but fewer gas pull thrus for trailers..

[@Toddstjohn]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I hold concern on this was gas stations with room while Towing. I know it's easier to find gas than it is diesel

[@meatrobot]

I didn't want the expense, noise, or pollution of a diesel. Plus, there's not much I can't fix on a gasser.

[@Mattman2500]

Got about 18,000 miles towing just my 11k 5th wheel. With a 2022 Ram 2500 6.4 hemi. I also toe a gooseneck dump trailer. There are no issues here at all.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻 ty

[@Spoolingturbski]

If you’re towing heavy and traveling you need a diesel. It provides the torque necessary to efficiently haul and more importantly an exhaust brake to safely slow down and stop. Gas is great for smaller RVs as it provides sufficient power, great payloads and cheaper long term operation in regards to maintenance. Either way both great purpose built options. Great video as always Josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah if you’re doing a lot of inclines diesel is great

[@billmonroe7328]

Diesel used to be 100% more durable choice, but modern DEF system major repairs can come pretty darned close to flat replacing a gas engine. To me, it comes down to usage. If you tow heavy all the time, get Diesel... if you tow heavy occasionally... get whichever you want. Diesel resale often offsets higher initial cost...but I bet modern gas are less expensive for maintenance overall these days.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Lot of folks feel that way. “DEF killed diesel” is something I hear regularly

[@johnnorvaisas]

I prefer 3/4 gas

[@tonylinkous7940]

100 per cent right, That's why we have a Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi gas. It's a daily driver around town. That's hard on the diesels. We pull our Rockwood 2906 at 8430lbs with no issues. We also have more payload.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻

[@BenEaddy]

Great video. The longer range of my Duramax 2500 is offset by the higher price of diesel and cost of DEF compared to gasoline. I don't use my truck commercially or for a huge trailer, so if I had to do it again, I'd probably buy a gas truck. If you're driven by price, gas is a no-brainer.

[@pat4091]

Good video. I ran diesel for 20 years till the body was rusting off. Bought a new F350 with the Godzilla motor. I ran the numbers for me the gas made the most sense. Maintenance costs are way down. Fuel usage is up but I look for diesel prices to get back to 75 cents to a dollar more. I tend to worry about the dollar. Wish I didn't care would have went whole hog on the high output and been buying tires way more often!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Lot of people feel “def killed diesels” and have gone to newer gas But for things like mountain diesel is still king

[@bobconner422]

I really like getting on the freeway ramp with 15k and be up to 70mph in a blink of a skinny pedal 😮

[@thunderroad7289]

If I’m going gas I’m getting the Ford with the 7.3 gas engine. That’s a killer engine. Have friends with it. I’m still running my Cummins and power stroke diesels. But after driving one of those 7.3 I’m thinking about going gas. To be fair to my diesel engines I’m pulling heave construction loads all the time. But for my fifth wheel I’m going to go gas

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Those 7.3’s are great

[@gddyuprap]

I talked myself out of the diesel for all the points you mentioned. Bought a 22 Ford F250 CC 7.3 gasser since everyone talked about how great they were for towing. Towed my 23 WW 26RBSX twice with the gasser in the mountains of NH. Just came home with a 2019 F350 CC 6.7 diesel last week. My 7.3 averaged around 5-7 mpg in the 2 trips. Towed with the 6.7 for 5 days before I purchased it and was seeing almost 13 mpg in similar scenarios with the same camper. There's no comparison when it comes to towing. The diesel, for me, is the right tool for the job. The gasser can certainly do it, but the diesel just does it SO MUCH BETTER.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah thru inclines diesel pulls a lot better

[@davidanderson1992]

I had a 2017 F-150 with the 3.5L twin turbo v6, which was fine for towing a 8000 lb travel trailer. I was too close to the max payload and 2 years ago upgraded to a 2015 Ford F-350 with a 6.2 gas V8 because everyone saying to avoid diesel. Compared to the F-150, the F-350 was way more stable for towing that load on the highway, but the gas engine really didn’t perform as well as the twin turbo v6 in my previous F-150. We towed the camper out west through the mountains and when going up hills the engine would have to stay rung out near redline to get up the hill and the same would happen when driving into strong head winds. So, the gas mileage was around 5-6mpg. The ride was not very good as I expected with a F-350 coming from a F-150 but got better when towing. I towed our camper trailer with that for about a year and decided to try a 2024 GMC 2500 with a Duramax and the difference in that and the previous F-350 was night and day. The ride is much better and it tows MUCH BETTER. Also, getting fuel is not near as stressful as it was. Before buying the 2024 Duramax I also drove a 2024 2500 with the 6.6 gas before buying and decided to get the diesel. I agree it’s the best tool for the job. I know the gas engines can do it, but my personal preference is to have performance, comfort, and refueling convenience of the diesel. There are some “extra” things to put up with on the diesel when not towing with adding DEF, inconveniences with regens and added expense of maintenance and repairs, but I knew this going in and willing to play the diesel game. Besides towing, the GMC 2500 Duramax is a great driving and riding HD truck. It’s all about personal preference. Drive what suits you and stay within your towing and payload limits.

[@OtisFlint]

You don't get double the MPG, complete nonsense.

[@gddyuprap]

@@OtisFlint Think whatever you like Otis. Just came back from Greenville, ME to southern NH towing my camper this afternoon. Even with a regen on the way up I averaged just over 12 mpg for the trip. Same tank size as the 7.3 gasser and I filled up once. I would have filled up 3 times with the gasser. Average range for the gasser was 200 miles at full. Average range on my 6.7 has been almost 400 miles with full emissions. The numbers don't lie. Believe what you want. I'll keep enjoying the diesel.

[@craigwilliams1073]

Josh, I've had both gas and deisel! I was going to beat you up until I continued to watch this clip! You hit all the points and explained everything perfectly! Thank you my brother for another outstanding breakdown!!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Awesome Ty! There are a lot of points both ways

[@cryptokillawail]

Good video, I was going to add about traveling up and down mountains, but you mentioned it at the end. I think diesel is the way to go, especially down the mountain.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Good call!

[@BrokeGuyBBQ]

15-year career diesel mechanic and I'll keep my gas engine. Can still engine brake with the transmission. I won't get there first but I'll get there.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Lot of people don’t realize gassers can also engine brake

[@BrokeGuyBBQ]

@JoshtheRVNerd exactly. Now I'm not hauling a super heavy trailer. 2023 286bhsw jay flight but still 8800gvwr and I got 8mpg going on the cascades highway from Everson Washington to conconully Washington. Still had passing power. Very stable towing experience. 2018 silverado 3500hd gas crew cab long bed.

[@reservoirappliancerepair2353]

You just spoke the truth, Josh! The cargo capacity of a gasser is usually higher than the diesel, simply because the diesel engine weighs much more. I personally bought a diesel simply because I wanted a diesel. My F250 powerstroke is too much truck for my Flagstaff Microlite 21FBRS. And we only use it for towing about once a month. However, I will already have the truck when it comes time to go bigger! Great video!!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Wow yeah you got truck to spare there lol

[@kylejonesUB]

Diesel all day and night. Higher fuel and upkeep costs, but far far easier to tow with. And they sound better, especially with a manual.

[@jasonbalthrop6633]

I thought manufacturers had completely discontinued manual shifts in pick ups? Who still offers it? Not Stellantis. (RAM)

[@kylejonesUB]

@jasonbalthrop6633 my truck's an '09, but you're right no more sticks after...2018 in RAM I believe.

[@gregorystone1439]

I'm new to towing a camper and my philosophy is safety first so bigger truck equals safer trip and my camper is 30ft. It's not the biggest or longest camper but I feel more comfortable going down the mountain with the engine brake screaming. I would rather spend more money to be safer than the reverse and we all seen those trucks doing the carolina squat while towing going 70mph.

[@jam5158]

I have towed with both gas and diesel. I have towed big and small trailers with both. By far diesel was well worth the extra cost for towing either big or small trailer. The price of fuel is comparable right now and I get 2-3 more MPG with the diesel then I did with gas which makes up for the slightly higher price of diesel. You can't beat the torque and towing power going up a steep grade with a diesel. I towed the same trailer up a 8% grade with gas and diesel. With the gas I was constantly shifting gears even though I had an automatic and my average MPH was around 20-25. With the diesel I was easily pulling that same trailer at 55 MPH up the same grade. This was a 7200 lb toy hauler. I guess if you have a smaller trailer say around 4-5k lbs then a gas would be OK but anything bigger than that and spend the extra $$ and get a diesel. Even though the oil changes are way more than gas with a diesel I can also go twice as far between oil changes so that mostly evens out. I have friends with a gas F150 that is rated at towing 11k lbs. They struggle pulling their trailer up a steep incline and have had to stop several times because they get a warning they are over taxing the engine.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Great insights. Ty so much

[@GregsWorkshopOregon]

Regarding used resale value, pre-emissions diesel trucks (specifically 5.9 Cummins and 7.3 Powerstrokes) are sought after these days more than their equivalent year gas trucks.

[@silvertexan]

When speaking of a modern diesel, the only way u would buy one is if I wanted it for work. Personal truck would be gas. Also, the diesel engine is not reliable if you idle a lot. Unless you are going to pay to burn the dpf tank annually.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻 ty

[@robertl9065]

The newest gas engine equipped 1 ton trucks have towing capacities around 20,000 lbs now. Especially when they have lower gears in the differentials like 4.30s. That’s in the range of most 5th wheels even toy haulers. If you tow a 5th wheel maybe 6-8 times a year I’d almost go gas now. Almost all the advantages diesel had in the past are gone. The mpg advantage diesel has is mitigated in states like mine where diesel costs $1.50 more per gallon to fill up. The maintenance is crazy. You lose a fuel pump in some of these that’s a $15,000 repair nowadays which also negates any fuel savings. Cleaning a DPF costs thousands. You could delete that and risk your warranty or fines. Also until this video I had never thought of the insurance cost differences. The only advantages to Diesel are raw power and fueling up at truck stops where it’s easier to pull a trailer through.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah newer gassers are often misunderstood for their capacity

[@greghomestead8366]

We've had 2 trucks pulling our same 8000 lbd TT. 1st one was a 2018 nissan Titan xd with the cummings diesel Now we have a 2023 3/4 ton gmc gas truck. The gmc has 96 ft lbs of torque less then the diesel, but has 98 hp more then the diesel. With our relatively low tt weight i really cant tell any difference pulling between the 2 trucks. I like not putting in $125 fuel filters every 10,000 miles, no def and about every pump has gas but not all have diesel. We're retired and go on 1 long trip, about 3000 miles round trip per year And then a few 1 tank or less trips per year. Have a Jesus filled day everyone Greg in Michigan

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty greg

[@ta70615]

Ive towed with both and living in California and mountains diesel is the only way to go. I get the whole emissions crap with diesels now but towing is a breeze with a diesel even when just towing a 26ft Airstream

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

👍🏻 mountains make a huge difference

[@Denis-tu1pd]

Here in Santa Rosa California were i live on july 7 2024 i saw a over head camper . It had california license plate . I like the diesel because of the exhaust brake . When towing not to much better than the gas engine . Now with the egr cleaning a the rest of the mainance the running of the diesel engine is not much better. Then you have the def fluid . My 2021 ram pulling my 9000 fifth wheel gets about 8 to 12 mpg in the hills is were it eats the fuel. My 2021 ram is a 3500 single rear wheel long bed crew cab commins diesel 370 horse 850 torque 373 gears 33.5 wheel diameter .i use 5th gear with is over drive . At 58 mph my rpm is at 1800 witch is were my 850 torque starts .here in california you can tow 60mph but 55 mph is the towing speed limit.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Greta feedback from a real owner. Ty!!

[@shawnriddle3018]

I luv my PW 6.4l gas for my 8,000lbs RV. Toy hauler. Tows great off road. Beach and dune sand.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Very nice!

[@oneboltzfan]

As always you give great information. I bought a 6.4 gasser for all the reasons you mentioned. Now I just need to find the right RV for my situation which will keep me watching your vids. :)

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thx for tuning in!!

[@jimf1450]

Bought 1st diesel a new Ram 3500 HO Cummins 2 months ago bc they're dealing. New Ford & GM gassers are pretty good, Ram HD still has cylinder deactivation. After a few towing trips with my gas truck dealing with the car pumps I wanted diesel, originally was looking @ the 1/2 Duramax which I still think is a good option but didn't want to limit my future options, better to have too much truck than not enough.

[@antoniopedraza6689]

I pull 3500lbs Rv with V6 diesel Ram. Fuel mileage is fantastic. L.A County to San Bernardino mountain 164 miles round trip on half a tank .

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Towing?

[@Abc-kf4qx]

Diesel. There are a lot of reasons to go either way but…diesel engine will last ALOT longer, no denying that. Better mileage (generally) and still cheaper to fill up. Lots of good choices. Good luck

[@TraconWizard]

We're happy with our gas for 5er pulling. But I wish we'd gotten a 1 ton instead of 3/4. Kids keep eating as they get bigger. We've had to start leaving some things at home because of payload. And price between 3/4 & 1 ton is negligible. As far as fueling, Flying J has RV lanes which really help avoid cars.

[@mikederucki]

That’s the thing that gets ya - payload. I have a 24 foot on a half ton but three kids, wife, food and drink, generator, bikes, bedding, etc it starts to add up by the time you pull away from the house. I’m just going to get a 1 ton and call it a day - bring whatever the fam wants to throw in the truck at that point

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah not all gas stops have pull thrus like that

[@bradbalderson8172]

We went from diesel to gas 2 years ago going from a Cummins to a Hemi, the diesel was an older one and showing its age and I didn't want to deal with the whole DEF thing. Living in SE Ohio we have hills and we just tackled that in a trip up into Ohio Amish country and the gasser preformed very well towing our 27BKHS Grey Wolf. If I was towing through the mountains of Maryland or Virginia I would go diesel for the jake brake.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

I remember that GW model! How fun

[@jasonb9913]

If you don't end up with a big block gasser the torque curve of the diesel wins hands down and that matters here out west. A small block gasser running full tilt trying to get up some of the big grades out here is running up coolant and trans temps, while barely holding 45 MPH based on the folks I get stuck behind. Then once you are at the top you gotta head down usually. The exhaust brake option on the diesel and lower natural RPM make it safer and easier. The diesel truck lanes also make refueling faster (once at the pump) and easier with a trailer. But as noted, maintenance is more money. About twice as much for an oil change. My Cummins held 13qts. My current Duramax holds 10qts. DEF, fuel filters, emissions issues, etc also make it not great for a daily driver. Replacing that clogged DPF is expensive, found out the hard way.

[@mmmd3429]

7.3l Godzilla gasser does well out West going over passes.

[@dallanc5199]

Come trailer here in the Rocky Mts, pulling a 10k lb trailer at 8-9kft elevation. Gassers suck in the thin air. My house is at 5,100ft elevation and the mountains tower above me up to 10k elevation.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Oh for sure. Elevation and engine braking are major factors

[@socapaul]

I have a 2017 Ram 2500 4x4 and a Grand Design 337rls, drove 5,300 miles cross country. California to Utah to Texas to Kentucky back to Texas and home. 10.3 miles per gallon driving 70 mph. ❤ my Ram.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Great feedback. Ty

[@socapaul]

@@JoshtheRVNerd I forgot to mention that without the trailer, I'm getting 21/19 mpg.

[@garylitzenberg536]

You forgot to mention towing in the mountains, I can go gas, if I want to climb at 35 mph or slower, which I have. For me and anyone I camp with, we all have diesel.

[@GrumpyForester]

Loved the Video, Josh. I'm in the "small 2-person FSC trailer" phase of life and don't need large towing capacity because my next RV - if I ever get another - is going to be the lightest weight two-person tow-behind with a real toilet and black water tank. Given that, thank you for giving me thinking points to ponder; when I bought my last Pickup/camp trailer combo, things were a bit simpler where diesel fuel was cheaper but diesel maintenance was more expensive. It's good to be herded into thinking about the current state of the gas/diesel world...

[@Luv2camp316]

Thank you. No one answer. Weigh the pros and cons of both. My answer works for me. Doesn’t mean much to anyone else.

[@twiggywebber8817]

I had an f150 5.oL pulling a Rockwood Roo 233s empty 4400lbs loaded about 6600lbs, I was given this I couldn't bring myself to spend when this truck was worth but I now have a 2023 Ram 2500 Longhorn limited editions 6.7L diesel and I gotta say I lo e pulling my trailer now, I forget it's back there so much confidence towing now it's great we can go on longer trips now

[@garyray]

I've got a Ford one ton gas. The fuel range on a short bed is pretty poor, meaning fill ups more often and in line at gas stations with cars. My truck has no problems pulling over mountains on cruise control with a 10,000 pound trailer (truck is rated for 20K pounds). My main reason for not considering diesel was the initial costs, unreliability and the fact ULSD fuel isn't reliably available in all of Mexico, where we're traveling. That last one is the deal breaker. If I were pulling full time in the US, had a fifth wheel, or was towing more than 10K pounds, diesel would be my choice.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Never thought about fuel availability. We are blessed with a lot of benefits here we don’t always consider

[@Fonky7774]

In Alaska, there are plenty of gassers, however, we also have some good elevation changes depending on where you are going. Elevation changes have a huge impact between gas and diesel. Thinner air can make the gas engines struggle more when going up in elevation. Diesel doesn't share that same weakness. Either way, great differences between the 2. Thanks for the video!

[@moparmission7093]

I agree Josh! SRW 1 or 3/4 ton Ford 7.3 gas and GM 6.6 gas with towing 15k lbs. or less

[@erhodes352]

I went back and forth on this and ended up with a GMC 3500 with the Duramax. I wanted the ability to get a larger trailer and the power to deal with the Sierra mountains that aren’t far away. I’m glad I did. The power to pull up the hills and the exhaust brake for downhill made me glad I paid the extra money. The first trip with our larger trailer (41’ long and about 13.5k lbs) I went with a buddy who had a gas version of my truck and smaller trailer. Going up the mountains he struggled to maintain 45 mph and mine easily maintained 65 and could have gone faster.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah for inclines diesel power and engine braking shines

[@robertcolpitts4534]

Long, easy commutes with towing through hilly or mountainous country: diesel all the way. At 55 mph, not towing, I get 25 mpg with my 2500HD/6.6L Duramax/10-speed; at 75 mph, it drops to 19-21 mpg. Towing: 11 to 15 mpg with our trailer; the sweet spot is 63 to 65 mph for the best mileage. If you have short or have to drive thru heavy traffic during the commute and tow over flat country with a few hills, definitely gasoline. Resale value on the diesel still is excellent. I paid $63K for my 2022 2500HD. Value today is $54K, and we're very right-side-up on what we owe vs. what it's worth. The price of diesel is equal to or slightly above regular gasoline (generally between regular and mid-grade gasoline). DEF only adds a few pennies since I get 950 to 980 mpg commuting and 500 to 550 mpg towing. Maintenance costs are only slightly higher as I get longer service life on my motor oil (7500 - 8500 miles), so the cost is roughly the same. I towed with gasoline engines for years, and the diesels beat them all like rented mule. Diesels run cooler on the transmission, good for towing in hot weather. Even on long grades through the mountains, the transmission seldom gets to 190 degrees. The gassers used to get 200 to 220 degrees, and the engine temps would get up there (235 - 240). It's my first diesel, and it does what I want without complaint.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Love input from real owners. Ty

[@R-xb4wv]

I have a Ram with a Cummins engine. Yes it takes 3 g of oil but the change interval is 30K so in the end I think it is even. One advantage of the diesel is longevity. According to the factory book the first engine overhaul is recommended at 400K miles. I currently have 250K and it runs as good as new The only engine work so far is water pumps (2).. I never had a gasser make it over 200K without major work. The Cummins engine is a medium duty engine in a light duty application. But I must admit my brother had a Ford diesel and it was nothing but problems for him so like everything I don't think you can lump all years and makes together. Some are better than others.

[@DavidKroff]

I have a 2006 dodge 3500 diesel with 520,000. Never did anything to the engine but injectors a couple times. New transmission at 384k. I have a new one because I haul horses and really can't take a chance on breaking down. Of course there's no guarantee the new one won't break down. But gotta go with the odds.

[@tylermillercoach]

Our last truck was a 2019 GMC Sierra 2500 gas (6.0). It pulled our Jayco Octane SL 293 great, plenty of power. My wife used it as a daily driver and got 12 mpg every day to go to work. It would get 15 mpg highway (not towing). When we were towing we got 5.5 to 6.5 mpg and we towed a lot of long distances (350-500 mile one-way trips). I hated the range while towing. It had a 36 gallon fuel tank but getting 6 mpg meant you had to stop and get gas every 200 miles. I think our next one will be a diesel mostly for the added range due to the better mpg while towing. I think the daily driving is basically a wash because the slightly better mpg is offset by the. higher price per gallon (plus DEF), but not having to stop every 200 miles while towing is what i'm looking for.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty Tyler. Great info

[@AlaskaErik]

I know you focused on the HD segment but in the half ton market I believe the 3.0L Duramax diesel is a viable option. On the 2024 GMC Sierra SLT I just ordered the diesel is a $795 option. The 6.2L gas engine, which is the only other one I would consider for towing, is a $2295 option. And it uses premium gas. Where I live premium gas is 75 cents more than diesel. Last month it was $1.05 more than diesel. So diesel is much cheaper than any grade of gas for me. The Duramax also has significantly better fuel economy over any of the gas engines, whether empty or towing. The Duramax has a 7 quart crankcase capacity vs 8 quart for the 6.2L or the 5.3L. And the fuel filter has a 30,000 mile replacement interval, so not a major expenditure. So I fully expect my new diesel engine truck to be less expensive to run and maintain than the outgoing 6.2L in my previous truck, which I just sold for way more than I thought it would sell for.

[@applejacks971]

As a 2004 1/2 ton Suburban owner, I have to get an RV that my ‘Burb can handle. Unfortunately its gas mileage is only 13.5mpg to begin with, and that’s WITHOUT pulling anything :( It’s been like that the 12 years I’ve owned it. I’ll get a lil Wildwood/Salem 171 for a year or 2, pay it off, then jump in to a 3/4 ton diesel. After another 2 years or so, sell/trade the WW171 and step in to a 28-30’ RV. If I get a 3/4 ton pickup first, I already know I want a diesel, there won’t be anything in the budget for an RV. I’d rather get a smaller camper first so I can get out and have some adventures. Besides, I can pull the WW171 for as long as I want with a 3/4 diesel, there’d be no reason to upgrade campers unless I want too. If you get a ‘too big’ rv first, you’re a screwed duck if your current tow vehicle can’t pull it (safely, smartly, legally). Better to have too much power than not enough. Most excellent video Nerd! You are 100% spot on with every point you mentioned.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thank you for watching AND sharing all of this!!

[@trekster9269]

I'm always loaded, whether I'm towing or not. 🍻

[@denniscoyle4791]

Great video Professor. I have a 7.3 diesel and I pray I never have to replace it. That being said with all the new emissions I would probably go 7.3 gas.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Ty dennis

[@dfnsmn1411]

For resale, just researched in Midwest and found diesel were significantly higher valued than gas counterpart. So much so that I wound up with a brand new diesel truck and haven't second guessed that choice since. All diesel all day. I guess I should share that my truck is NOT a daily driver. Also consider that while it's double the oil, you go a significantly longer amount of time between changes than gas.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah new vs used pricing is wonky right now now

[@Flynblind1]

I specifically bought the 3/4 Ford last year with the 7.3L gas motor. Key points for me were maintenance and cargo carrying capacity. Fueling options in remote, small town locations was also a small consideration. I haul a 13k lb 5th wheel with absolutely no issues in all sorts of terrains. It was very hard to find. Most of these units are being bought from the factory or as soon as they hit the dealerships by commercial companies (at least in my area).

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Yeah supply is really low right now

[@Patricksmancave]

Thank you for the video! If it was me I would go diesel. The motor would last longer than the truck. Have a good day josh!

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Thanks, you too!

[@jdmpsy]

Great video! Love the nuanced discussion. I’m a weekend camper. And for all the reasons you listed, it makes sense to go gas when I upgrade my current tow vehicle. But, when I upgrade, plan is to buy a truck that has every wizbang, gadget, button I want. I want it to be a truck I can drive maybe 20 years. So for me, the longevity of a diesel engine is the tipping point.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Only caution I would add is all those fancy add ons add weight and reduce your cargo capacity on the truck so make sure you still have enough for that rv

[@NavyAviationVeteranRVer]

Local dealer has a 1 ton gas Ram tradesman flatbed. 7700 payload 18K towing. Two door real truck. Cummins and Allison eat up payload and tow.

[@NavyAviationVeteranRVer]

Ram has a website you put the vin in for those stats

[@chasl3443]

Well said and right-on! I've had both and do not miss the cost of diesel fuel and diesel maintenance for my use as an occasional hauler. My Ram 1500 with a V-8 works just fine and has for years.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Awesome Ty

[@johnfcomeau5011]

Josh, I had a 6.4 gaser and have a Cummins now I wouldn't trade for anything.

[@IntothewestOkotoks]

I went 2021 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 to tow a 7500 (loaded) 34’ trailer. Mostly through the Rockies to BC. If you go diesel on a Ram 2500 you lose a lot of payload (I have 2800lbs, and similar equipped diesel was about 2100 from what I recall seeing on the sticker). The Hemi tows that no problem through mountains. I would recommend it prob up to 9-10k loaded. Beyond that I would definitely switch to diesel and possibly even 1 ton (depending how much towing is done). In a 4 hour one way round trip between Calgary and BC I’ll average around 22 l/100kms (I think 10-11mph). Unloaded, driving in a slow, lots of stops small town I average about 18-19 l/100kms (12-13 mpg), and recommended gas is 87. On highway I’ve seen a best of around 12-13 l/100kms (18-19mpg?). And I drive with a very light foot. 3/4 and above are heavy, and will use lots of gas even with all the advancements. But for towing anything about 6-7k dry, it becomes a noticeably better driving experience.

[@JoshtheRVNerd]

Appreciate the real world experience you’ve shared here. Safe travels

[@Cambigue_OH]

Well Done Josh! My only complaint with my 6.7L gas F-250 is the gas mileage towing, which is awful. Other than that, because its not in use all the time, gas was the way to go.