Why We SWITCHED From Ford 7.3L Gas to DIESEL

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@ZonaJim
@ZonaJim 2 ай бұрын
The Ford 6.7L diesel is a great powerhouse. But its biggest weakness is the CP4 fuel pump. If it fails, you can expect to pay around $12K - $14K for repairs. And an extended warranty will not typically cover the damage because Ford will blame poor quality fuel. If you plan on keeping the F250 for several years, I'd suggest you invest in a DCR fuel pump or disaster prevention kit from S&S Diesel. It's much less expensive than a CP4 destroying your fuel system. At the very least, make sure you add a good fuel additive such as Archoil or Hotshot every time you fuel up.
@rickytecon5726
@rickytecon5726 2 ай бұрын
I had a 'disaster prevention kit' put on my 2014 6.7 F-250. I also always change the fuel pumps every 10,000 miles. We've been towing with it going on 11 years. No problems. *Knocks on wood*. The DEF system has been a problem tough.
@sarahann530
@sarahann530 2 ай бұрын
​@@rickytecon5726 How much does a new fuel pump cost you every 10k miles ?
@12055isgod
@12055isgod 2 ай бұрын
Upper oil pan gaskets are pretty pricey too. Have to Drop the axle and transmission. Typically shortly after 100k mile warranty ends on our work trucks; $7-9k, but those are 450-550 chassis, so higher labor rates.
@rickytecon5726
@rickytecon5726 2 ай бұрын
@@sarahann530 I change the fuel filters every 10k. Not the fuel pump
@sarahann530
@sarahann530 2 ай бұрын
@@rickytecon5726 Then why did you post that you changed the fuel pump every 10k ?
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 2 ай бұрын
Living in the west with high mountains everywhere I go, I stuck with my diesel F350 FX4. It's important to ignore manufacturers new oil change specifications. I change the oil at 3000 miles and trans oil at 30,000 miles. Coolant at 50,000. Over 200,000 miles and zero issues. Still runs and looks like new. With the aux fuel tank holds about 140 gallons of fuel so I fill up where prices are good and that saves a few bucks.
@fuzzywigglebutt
@fuzzywigglebutt 2 ай бұрын
If you are adding 140 gallons of diesel that is an additional 950+ pounds of payload. That would put a lot of people over weight (especially in an F250). But the travel distance sure would be nice. 🙂
@Mike-te1xx
@Mike-te1xx 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Have a 2024 F350 tremor lariet with 7.3 gasser. After owning 2 diesels from a different manufacturer and having multiple issues with both under warrenty, I wanted the 7.3. We don't tow heavy or often. Absolutely love the truck.
@Azntrutek2012
@Azntrutek2012 Ай бұрын
Say whatever to convinced yourself to buy a nee truck. After all it is your moeny, your truck. Who care ! Lol
@BrigT262
@BrigT262 10 сағат бұрын
Great comments
@draginfly1299
@draginfly1299 Ай бұрын
I have a 2021 E350 Super Duty Cutaway with KUV service body on it. With tools weights close to 12000lbs. Has a Godzilla with a 6 speed and 4.10 gears. Has been tuned by Five Star Tuning 87 heavy tow and 93. Currently have 64000 miles with ZERO issues. It is a beast!!! Love it!! I am a stickler about maintenance. Full synthetic fluids for everything - 5000 oil changes and 30000 trans and rear differential. No issues. Maintenance is everything. I’m very happy with my truck
@jaybeauvais4311
@jaybeauvais4311 Ай бұрын
Gets like 2 mpg
@draginfly1299
@draginfly1299 Ай бұрын
No, I’m getting 12 and I can get 14 if I stay off the throttle. The tune not only helped with fuel mileage but, really increased the horsepower and torque! Not to mention I also had the factory 87mph governor removed!
@glennbishop-smith9957
@glennbishop-smith9957 2 ай бұрын
I bought one of the last few 3/4 ton Chevys that came with the 8.1 liter gasser and an Allison 6-speed automatic, this was spring of 2007, we tow a 10,000lb 5th wheel. 150,000 miles now and no engine problems. We have looked at getting a new truck but there are too many stories like this one about the new big gas engines from all three manufacturers.
@deltabravo1257
@deltabravo1257 2 ай бұрын
The 8.1 with the Allison was the holy grail of GM truck gas engine combinations.
@ReflectedMiles
@ReflectedMiles 2 ай бұрын
Ford does a lot of things differently, and after watching friends suffer the same kinds of issues as in this video plus repeating transmission problems, I have just stayed with my old GMC and plan to just make it force me into something else. Just crossing the 210k mark and have only had the usual high-mileage maintenance items from an oil-pressure sending unit to oxygen sensors.
@Thesaltymedic36
@Thesaltymedic36 2 ай бұрын
I had the 8.1 in my suburban with the 4L60 and it towed my trailer like a champ. Great engine, wish I had the Allison
@ReflectedMiles
@ReflectedMiles 2 ай бұрын
@@Thesaltymedic36 Sure it wasn’t the 4L80? Awfully big power for the 60.
@Thesaltymedic36
@Thesaltymedic36 2 ай бұрын
@@ReflectedMiles yes you are correct. My 95 S10 has the that one 😂
@leestanphill1
@leestanphill1 2 ай бұрын
I had a 7.3 2022 F350 Lariat and went back to a ram 3500 dually after 2 years. No complaints on the 7.3, I loved driving it day to day and towing flat but really missed the torque and exhaust brake in the mountains.
@robertjanderson88
@robertjanderson88 2 ай бұрын
A couple corrections to your video: 1. Ford engine/drivetrain warranty on your truck was 60,000 miles (or 5 years); 2. Following your first video, I took my 2021 F350 7.3L in for an oil change and investigated an extended warranty (since I was at 59,000 miles) and was told that repairing the cam/lifters would be a little over the $3,000 range if the valves didn't get bent/damage the pistons. So far, we're happy with the 7.3L gas engine and it tows nicely. I'm hoping ours was late enough in 2021 to not have the issues.
@larryw5429
@larryw5429 Ай бұрын
You are very very wrong on the price of lifter failure. Yes you are right if you just change the cam and lifters. But that isn't all that happens when they fail. When they fail they send metal thru out the engine and destroys the bearings on all engine components and also wrecks the oil pump! Thats why its 12 grand because no one is just going to replace lifters and cam to have the rod and crank bearings spin at another few thousand miles!
@harpandharley
@harpandharley 2 ай бұрын
Nicely balanced story. I went with a Ram 2500 w/6.4 gasser because it worked for my situation perfectly though I would have gone for a diesel if I could afford it. Keep up the good work!
@1798iscomingback
@1798iscomingback 2 ай бұрын
Ford put the godzilla on Motorhome chassis that are rated 30000lbs GCWR so towing a 15k lbs 5er is not the reason for the failure.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@treeamigo8447
@treeamigo8447 2 ай бұрын
They fail because of that oval logo in the grill
@mmmd3429
@mmmd3429 2 ай бұрын
7.3l gasser is a beast
@Kinginwar
@Kinginwar Ай бұрын
​@@treeamigo8447did you listen All new push rod have same issue
@molonlabe287
@molonlabe287 Ай бұрын
@@treeamigo8447 yeah thats why they sell more than anything else 🙄, what a dork🤣I guess your other choices is either a maxi-pad on the grill or the fiat with the uterus emblem.🤣
@JeffParker-lu5kq
@JeffParker-lu5kq Ай бұрын
Less than 1% have any issues. Im a contractor, and I'll never go back to diesels again . Last fuel pump cost replacement was 12 k on a duramax . 95 k on my 7.3 and never has let me down . I use it hard in the mountains of Montana ..
@glennbeadshaw727
@glennbeadshaw727 2 ай бұрын
You're quite likely won't have any less problems with your diesel unless you keep on top of its maintenance like a saint and you'll enjoy the costs of that
@scottgorman7166
@scottgorman7166 2 ай бұрын
Yes sir, you nailed it!
@9002-bv9xz
@9002-bv9xz Ай бұрын
I've had my 2012 F250 6.7 since new, currently sitting at 190k. Only issues I've had is a thermostat needed to be replaced at around 100k. Otherwise zero issues with the engine/transmission! A couple things to be really strict on: only use high quality 5W40 engine oil and change it often (6000mi); change fuel filters annually and fuel up only at reliable stations; invest in Forscan software so you can do some of your own coding and also force a parked regen; change out the coolant at minimum every 4-5 years; ensure your crankcase ventilation system is operating properly; do a pan drop and fluid/filter change on the transmission at 5 years/100k. This will ensure none of the pan bolts break off from age/corrosion, and replenish the fluid additive pack. Let the truck warm up but don't idle it excessively. Best of luck! Thanks for the video and honest convervation
@pattinewman5186
@pattinewman5186 2 ай бұрын
My husband and I own a Dodge 2500 diesel and LOVE it. It pulls our 31 ft. 5th wheel so easily up and down the mountain passes with no problem. ❤
@treeamigo8447
@treeamigo8447 2 ай бұрын
Well this gentleman bought the Ford so his experience probably won't be as enthusiastic as yours.
@Edgar-q5n
@Edgar-q5n Ай бұрын
What year is your Dodge 2500?
@pattinewman5186
@pattinewman5186 Ай бұрын
​@Edgar-q5n it's a 2020
@RonRussell-sj1zf
@RonRussell-sj1zf Ай бұрын
Failing lifters is just unacceptable in this day and age, I mean they've been around for years!
@trex860
@trex860 Ай бұрын
Probably made in Mexico junk.
@mathieugauthier3088
@mathieugauthier3088 13 күн бұрын
Yet, every manufacturer has that issue...
@RonRussell-sj1zf
@RonRussell-sj1zf 13 күн бұрын
@@mathieugauthier3088 yeah, it must be a wave of engineers that need to be re-educated on lifter design.
@michaelwalker8501
@michaelwalker8501 Ай бұрын
For the record, the engine is warranted up to 5 years/60k miles.
@Tool0GT92
@Tool0GT92 Ай бұрын
I don't know how many miles he had but a lot of times you have a time getting an extended warranty that's any good once the warranty is up.
@michaelwalker8501
@michaelwalker8501 Ай бұрын
I wasn’t even referring to an extended warranty. I’m sure he was past the 60k mile mark, but he said in the video it was only covered until 36k miles. The Ford Factory Powertrain warranty is 5years/60k miles.
@dave4nier
@dave4nier 2 ай бұрын
Great honest video. When I researched the 7.3 Godzilla, your original video came up, I subscribed right then and there. I have a 2020 F350 Lariat crew cab long bed with the 7.3 gasser and 3.73 axle ratio. I tow a 2022 Grand Design Reflection 295RL, and it weighs in at the CAT scale at about 11,500 lbs. (We are a bit overweight, but my solar and inverter setup puts the extra on the pin and the truck is still 800 lbs under for the payload...the trailer axles and tires are also within weight specs). I am happy with this setup. We usually travel several weeks at a time, last year we left Mass and traveled the east coast to Florida and back, we took 5 months. I tow at 60 mph, and lock out 9th & 10th gear. I get just about 9 mpg, and the truck runs down the highway at about 2k rpm. I think it is a great combination, we usually do about 325 miles between stops, and I can easily do that without having to stop and fill up with the trailer attached. On the truck alone, down south where the terrain is flatter, I get about 16 mpg. When I bought the truck, it had one previous owner who special ordered it and traded it in at 22,000 miles. He special ordered the exact same truck, the only difference was the color. I also bought the extended warranty so I am covered bumper to bumper to 100,000 miles with no deductible. I now have 43,000 miles on it and am happy, although I do watch for any sign of the lifter issue. I have been watching for a 2023 model but they are hard to find. The original owner of my truck just traded in his 2022 and ordered another brand new one with the same configuration. He tows snowmobiles and boats.
@asadventures_moriicoddiwomple
@asadventures_moriicoddiwomple Ай бұрын
We have our extended warranty on our Godzilla now. After servicing in Iowa while at Homecoming, she's (Blue) running great! We'll see what happens down the road. Thanks, Jason!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Ай бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the road, thanks for sharing!
@nunyobizkneez
@nunyobizkneez 2 ай бұрын
so you went from a lifter/cam $10-12k problem to a $12-14k fuel pump problem? Not to mention the 10spd issues out there also? Good luck.
@melissasmess2773
@melissasmess2773 2 ай бұрын
I've had a gen 2 Cummins since 1999, no problems. It might be the best light truck diesel engine ever made.
@goneawol7498
@goneawol7498 2 ай бұрын
….and you can tow, let me guess 12,000lbs?
@preachers4135
@preachers4135 2 ай бұрын
B series Cummins for the win! Pre-aftertreatment boondoggle also. 👍👍👍
@smiley3303
@smiley3303 2 ай бұрын
Great engine but the rest of the truck is not great. Tow ratings are pathetic back then.
@betterwithrum
@betterwithrum 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, I’ve got a 3rd gen with 220k it’s running great
@betterwithrum
@betterwithrum 2 ай бұрын
@@goneawol7498so what, I’d rather pull something light and have a truck that isn’t 90k and choking on its own exhaust.
@oldengineer1519
@oldengineer1519 Ай бұрын
I have the pro trailer backup assist on my F-150 and after trying it once decided to stick with the steering wheel. After years of backing trailers this way it has become natural for me. We also have the 360 degree camera pkg and I really like it. Not only does it make getting into tight parking spots easier I like being able to see where the truck sits backing into a campsite. It turns out my wife likes it too since it eliminates her having to run back and forth to check the various truck blind spots for clearance from objects.
@stevedaniels3064
@stevedaniels3064 Ай бұрын
I am missing what this has to do with 7.3 gas vs 6.7 Diesel?
@patricksquires77
@patricksquires77 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE my Duramax powered 2500. I got tons!, earfulls, before & after purchase that gas was the way to go now. Below is MY OWN decision making. First off - I was biased… I wanted the torque and ‘ease’ of a diesel. Why is it ok for MANY MANY people to judge me that I spent on diesel but NOT ok to judge what they spent on their RV? 😂 … As if 10K is ‘allot’ in many aspects of RVs at campgrounds today? With above out of the way - below is the rest. 10k more for Diesel gets you the below- -Substantially longer warranty in years and Mileage without buying a extended warranty. This is often not known by almost everyone I get slack from about gas. -Depending on platform but most likely a more proven engine and transmission pairing. -A different world for mechanic shops… choose to service outside of your dealer at your choosing but there is excellent diesel shops out there doing fleet on these engines taking them to 500k-million miles and know everything about them. -Higher resale and if above 80k miles… substantially higher resale. -Gas Trucks have expensive catalytic failures today. Thats right!… misfires on today’s large gas engines wipe out today’s 3-5k sensitive catalytic very quickly. & Almost everyone jawing about DEF exhaust issues and expensive repairs is 8 years behind the times. Those DEF failures mostly do not happen as much as they used to. The DEF systems and particulate filters are substantially better on current platforms sold today. If you do not buy a diesel for all short trips and never working hard you will be fine IMO most likely. -Ease of filling when towing…. Note this is not all pure bliss for sure. Sometimes labeling is bad when you need to use fleet card etc… & Sometimes there is not diesel near enough for comfort. -Should be easier to sell - time will tell. At end of the day IMO - Why spend 1-3k on extending warranty when you can spend 10 on diesel, get benefits of diesel, and likely get half or more of the 10k back. 2021 Duramax! L5P 💪 Denali 😎
@johndennison6093
@johndennison6093 2 ай бұрын
Do you daily drive your truck or just for hauling? I here so many things against a diesel if your aren’t towing with it every day. I just don’t think any of the manufacturers would produce an engine that couldn’t be a daily driver as well.
@that.schamp
@that.schamp 2 ай бұрын
@@johndennison6093 I don't think it's towing or not - it's a matter of rural/highway vs urban driving. Any urban use puts more wear and tear on any engine - especially if you are taking short trips so it doesn't get enough time at operating temperature. Modern diesel emissions also fare poorly in urban use as low temps, short duration usage, and high idle time leads to EGR, DPF, and sensors getting clogged. Petrol engine emissions and control systems have similar problems, but short trips and idling are definitely worse for diesels in current generations. Many of the wear problems with urban driving can be addressed by increasing oil change frequency, and that normally costs less for the petrol engine than the diesel. Also, urban trucks have shorter lifespans due to road damage, crashes, theft, etc (shorter by miles), so there is less opportunity to recoup the additional cost of a diesel via lower operational costs. So use in urban areas points to the gasser - towing or not. For highway mileage, the advantage may be with diesels. It's close. Living in rural Texas, I went diesel because because I cruise 60-75mph for at least 80% of my driving, and rarely take a trip under 15 miles. Looking at data from 6 years on my previous truck, I decided to get a diesel truck. I also considered a second car - a highway econobox or even an EV that can handle the 150 miles I do in a day trip to town. Reality is that I don't drive enough to justify buying a 2nd vehicle. If I had to go 100 miles 3-5 times a week, it would be a hands down win for the second car - but that would push me to the diesel truck because the truck would only get used for towing and longer trips. In urban environments, you also have to start looking at the hybrid truck - or a second vehicle (EV or hybrid). The wear and tear gains of putting most of your short trip mileage on a less expensive, more efficient vehicle make the case for a second vehicle stronger in urban areas. If your towing needs put you in a 3/4 or 1 ton, the case for a second vehicle becomes even stronger for both cost and usability. And once again, having a second vehicle points you back to the diesel truck. If you *are* going to daily drive a truck in an urban environment, you probably want the gas engine or gas hybrid. Of course there are lots of people driving trucks in urban areas (and some in rural areas) who don't even need the truck in the first place, but they are probably not watching this channel... FWIW, after one year and it's second maintenance service in my ownership, my 2021 F-150 (Crew Cab, Standard Bed, FX4, 3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel) is operating at $0.01/mile more than my 2017 Tacoma (Double Cab, Short Bed, Off-Road, 3.5L V6 NA Gas) did. Inflation adjusted to 2024, the F-150 is ~$0.02/mile less to operate. Assuming an F-150 base engine would put out the same numbers as the Tacoma (actually a reasonable assumption), that is 125,000 miles to make up the $2500 diesel engine option cost on the sticker. There are some interesting dynamics around resale value when I was truck shopping. For low mileage vehicles, there does not seem to be much of price increase for the diesels. So don't buy a diesel if you will re-sell it after 50,000 miles or less, because you won't get that extra cost back in the resale value. After about 50,000, diesels seem to get a resale value increase, which becomes -very- prominent after 100,000 miles. So you will recoup more of the extra cost of a diesel the longer you keep it in both operating cost and resale value. Buying a diesel there is a sweet spot in used vehicles with less than 50,000. I am really looking forward to diesel-electric trucks. They design goals have them doing 75% or more of my daily driving as a battery electric charging exclusively at home - but still performing well as tow vehicles. They would also have none of the downsides of urban operation, since the generator runs full blast for extended periods to charge the batteries, and it can work as an EV for most short trips.
@donniehelmly4920
@donniehelmly4920 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2013 2500HD. With th big V8 gas motor. I pull a 30 foot 5th wheel. I get 11 mph at best. But 160K miles later. She still pulls my 5th wheel through the Appalachian Mountains every year since then. Pulls like a champ.
@treeamigo8447
@treeamigo8447 2 ай бұрын
There weren't any big v8 gas engines in 2013.
@TheFlyingpolcat
@TheFlyingpolcat 2 ай бұрын
Just the 5.7L Hemi. I had a 2013 2500 Megacab with the 5.7. It was a solid truck.
@billyschannel997
@billyschannel997 Ай бұрын
@@treeamigo8447 Cough* cough* 6.0
@cammie1le235
@cammie1le235 Ай бұрын
I traded my 2021 Ford F250 Tremor 7.3 for a 2024 RAM 2500 Cummins after I noticed a huge decrease in gas mileage and a slight lifter tick on cold starts and when at idle. I had heard a ton about the 7.3 lifters failing in and around 60k-70k miles and I was right at 45k on mine. I traded it in and was given a very good trade in as well and I can now tow a bigger trailer and not have to worry about missing a gas station to fill up the 7.3.
@occasionalrv
@occasionalrv 2 ай бұрын
Well done with no bias. We own a 2021 F250 with the 7.3 gas engine. 50k miles about 60% of it is towing. We tow a 7k lb Airstream. So far the truck has been fantastic with no problems. We do have a 100k 84 month full power train extended warranty. Hopefully we never have to use it.
@michaelburt1946
@michaelburt1946 2 ай бұрын
It always amazes me how quickly people come to the same conclusion that I did. Towing an F350 diesel with a 42 foot fifth wheel is not fun. It’s a lot of work. I now run around the country and a 20 foot class B van and I’ve never been happier.
@patricksquires77
@patricksquires77 2 ай бұрын
No judgement for any RVr but yes - More full timers trend smaller than trend bigger if they travel allot. All trade offs.
@rickytecon5726
@rickytecon5726 2 ай бұрын
Getting ready to do the same thing. I'm just tired of towing. Glad to read this and hope I feel the same way.
@preachers4135
@preachers4135 2 ай бұрын
“Towing an F350 diesel with a 42 foot fifth wheel is not fun.” I hear it’s common practice to put the cart before the horse but I found it a lot easier to tow the trailer with the truck.
@patricksquires77
@patricksquires77 2 ай бұрын
@@preachers4135 🤣
@michaelburt1946
@michaelburt1946 2 ай бұрын
@@preachers4135 my bad
@frugaldiyhandyguy9295
@frugaldiyhandyguy9295 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I bought a F350 with the 6.2 gas and 6 speed trans. Was wishing that I bought the 7.3 with the 11 speed trans. Glad I didn't.
@JBidensucks
@JBidensucks Ай бұрын
The 6.2 Gasser amd fords 6 speed watched to the 4.30 or whatever they were again gewrs was the GREATEST combo ever. Had one in 2016.
@Deepocean567
@Deepocean567 Ай бұрын
I have a 2012 6.2 very good motor planning on getting another one
@michaelfrussell
@michaelfrussell 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving a very nuanced analysis on diesel vs. gas.
@rontaylor2094
@rontaylor2094 6 күн бұрын
I keep my vehicles a long time. My gas trucks I've had never lasted that long. Part of the problem was small engines and plenty of weight equals a new engine. I bought my 1997 F250 supercab with the 7.3 liter Powerstroke diesel in 2000 with about 84,000 miles on it. The previous owner pulled a 5th wheel constantly with it. I now have 277,000 miles on it and it sat for 18 months when the transmission went out at 220,000 miles. It's a 27 year old truck and still runs great. Longtivity is what I'm talking about without major repairs. Yeah..I know the transmission was pretty major. I'm looking at new trucks this month and yes it WILL be a diesel. I've had plenty of people tell me these new diesels will not be as trouble free as my 7.3 has been and the real culprit seems to be the emission control system and especially the regen systems that pump hot gasses and soot back into the intake system. I'm just hoping for the best. Will I get 300,000 to 500,000 miles out of the new engine..I don't know. What I do know is I'm keeping my old truck and will continue to use it also. I just need new door hinges on both doors and new headlight assembly's as mine are all scratched up and foggy looking. Age get to all of us.
@timaz1066
@timaz1066 2 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I own a 2000 Monaco dynasty that I full-time in. No diesel emission crap at all and it runs great.
@mikeussery4583
@mikeussery4583 Ай бұрын
I have owned Fords, Chevys, Toyotas and one thing still rings true. If you pay X$ extra for 4 wheel drive or X$ extra for a diesel, you will get it back in resale value.
@markreams3192
@markreams3192 2 ай бұрын
The cam problem with the 7.3 is mostly with the de tuned work truck engines with high idle times. The engine has a variable pressure oil pump that doesn’t get enough oil to the cam at idle. It’s rare that the pickup engines have this problem. RAM just did a bad design on their engine. The cam placement is such that it doesn’t get enough lubrication. GM has cam and lifter issues as well.
@stuartstuart866
@stuartstuart866 2 ай бұрын
I watched another KZbinr mechanic, and he talked about non OEM warranty companies replacing failed engines with junkyard replacements, that were clearly left out in the weather and in pretty rough shape. Factory (OEM) warranties supposedly give you a new engine.
@calledtojourney
@calledtojourney 2 ай бұрын
Yep, only OEM warranties are worth the paper they're printed on.
@tremr86bullnbronc9
@tremr86bullnbronc9 Ай бұрын
2022 tremor 7.3 here, have 79k on it. I noticed a very low inconsistent rpm tick at 60k. No engine light or low oil pressure light or performance issues and most people probably wouldn’t notice the noise. I only noticed when leaving a drive through and hearing the echo off the wall, but ended up needing a new oil pump after the dealer finally “replicated” the noise and using an engine stethoscope. Original oil pump had some play in the main gear. Luckily had the extended warranty. Awesome truck so far other than that. It makes me wonder though, if I hadn’t noticed that and it got worse, would the oil distribution to components like lifters have been impacted causing some of the issues that others are seeing? Maybe the root and overlooked cause is the oil pump itself on most of these? Similar issue to what mine had
@ernestdesimone2234
@ernestdesimone2234 2 ай бұрын
I have had people approach me to ask if my truck was gas or diesel, I say gas and they proceed to tell me that I made the right choice because they spent so much money fixing their diesel. If you tow something really heavy, I can see where you need the diesel. If you have a family to squeeze into the camper, I can see having a big(ger) fifth wheel. If you are just an old retired couple, you can downsize the trailer (less $$) and downsize the truck (less $$) and go with a gas engine (less $$). If you are dead set on having the diesel and the giant fifth wheel, go for it.
@TonkaFire2019
@TonkaFire2019 26 күн бұрын
I’ve had 2 3.0l Duramax, they’re great to drive with great fuel economy. But I’m done with it 6.6 gas Chevy 2500 is next
@davidhillbrand2302
@davidhillbrand2302 2 ай бұрын
Great perspective on the gas vs. diesel question.
@markcowart6887
@markcowart6887 2 ай бұрын
Another good video Jason. I’m surprised being able to fuel up with the truckers didn’t make the plus list for a diesel truck. Less hassle than navigating gas pumps…
@Badgeweefixstuff
@Badgeweefixstuff 2 ай бұрын
You do have a point 🛠️🇨🇦
@joedonbaker1673
@joedonbaker1673 2 ай бұрын
Yes, great point. I tow with gas and have to look on google maps before pulling into a gas station to make sure I can maneuver around. Truck stops are usually okay... With diesel you can almost be assured that you'll fit.
@gregormaitland5065
@gregormaitland5065 2 ай бұрын
Access to diesel is a double edge sword. Yes, on the interstate it can be easier (as there is usually more room at the diesel pumps. However I live in the northeast and we use our gas F350 to tow our horse trailer. What I’ve noticed is that a lot of the small town gas stations we go to in NH, VT and ME don’t have diesel.
@stevedaniels3064
@stevedaniels3064 Ай бұрын
truck lanes are filthy! Diesel fuel all over everything and the ground. Hard not to stink your whole truck up when you have to walk in diesel fuel. I drive away if they don't sell diesel at the car lanes.
@bentleydawg8573
@bentleydawg8573 Ай бұрын
In 2001 I bought an E350 extended 12 passenger van. We have a big family, kids like to take friends, so we needed the seats. We pulled a modest 6k lb camper. I went back and for a while on the gas vs diesel. Finally decided on the Triton V-10. Got a 4:11 limited slip rear end. It was a towing machine for sure. Our first trip was 3k miles from western Washington to Colorado with 12 passengers. It was a fun time. We went over 11,000 ft Red Mountain pass. Didn't have any trouble with it. I just bought another tow rig. This time an F250, used, with another gas motor. I just don't need a diesel for what we do.
@patricksquires77
@patricksquires77 2 ай бұрын
I did not know I can shop GM/FORD extended warranty after & separate from dealer of vehicle purchase Learn something from this channel all the time!
@calledtojourney
@calledtojourney 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the only extended warranties you may want to buy are directly from the manufacturer of your vehicle, NOT the dealer. Do some searching for feedback on dealer warranties, and you'll find lots of horror stories and lawsuits.
@Freightmeister
@Freightmeister Ай бұрын
Liked this editorial format. Well done Jason. Sounds to me like you’ve done the right thing for you/your family, at this point.
@arthurcutting9227
@arthurcutting9227 2 ай бұрын
Diesel is dead, killed by the DPF and EGR requirements. It'll be interesting to watch this play out.😮
@Aceman597
@Aceman597 Ай бұрын
Yes and the cost of future maintenance is going to be sky high.
@BrandonLeech
@BrandonLeech Ай бұрын
Diesel isn’t dead, it’s returning to where it belongs…not in most people’s driveways.
@MN_Engineer
@MN_Engineer Ай бұрын
​@@BrandonLeechTell me how I know you're voting for Harris...
@BrandonLeech
@BrandonLeech Ай бұрын
@@MN_Engineer I mean that most guys that buy diesels are tards who just want to put toons on it so they can go fast and roll coal on their way to work or the grocery store. Maybe occasionally they'll hook it to a boat or camper. In other words they should have bought a gas engine but you know what they say about common sense and I'm betting you don't have a lot of it either by your super triggered response.
@JimPenix-u1v
@JimPenix-u1v Ай бұрын
I don't know...my diesel seems to be doing just fine.
@paulroesner
@paulroesner 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the info. Coming from a 21 F250 Godzilla, towing a 27ft toy hauler, then a 38ft travel trailer, and finally our current 35ft fifth wheel for a couple months; then traded the F250 in for F350 Dually Diesel to tow the 35ft fifth wheel, because we were severely over payload. I was very happy with the F250. I think it could cover a lot of use cases for the need of towing once in a while for your weekend getaways. The low end torque was class-leading in the gas category, Engine braking in my opinion is better than the Power Stroke. However, I just passed 40k on the Power Stroke, and possibly noticing better acceleration and breaking performance as it is breaking in. Gas milage is maybe 10-20% better overall. The extra range with the bigger fuel tank and better gas mileage is amazing for the quality experience on towing days. However, the most common oversight I do not hear about the gas vs diesel is that while towing, you can go through the large parking lot tractor pump area with a diesel discount card. Miss all the traffic of small cars and tight spots. Plus, the fact the diesel motor is calm and quiet while towing at highway speeds. So far we have 13k miles on the Power Stroke across 10 states. Never once has it ever downshifted on me while towing our 15k lbs 35ft fifth wheel with about 800lbs of gear in the truck. I'm happy to pay the premium for just the last two facts alone.
@roadglide1142
@roadglide1142 2 ай бұрын
I had a 2021 F-350 7.3 10 speed. It was a good truck until I lost reverse twice . I traded the truck in and went back to Ram 2500’s I’m on my 3rd one . Never as much as a hiccup from and of them! I plow snow pull heavy trailers and work the crap outta them too! I feel like I avoided a bullet with that 7.3 getting rid of it before it screwed me over ! Btw that 10 speed shifted like crap from the get go! The ZF 8 speed in the Ram shifts like a dream compared to that crappy Ford Transmission! I’ll never go back to a crappy cheaply built overpriced Ford POS ever again! I’ll never want a HD truck with an independent front suspension like a Toyota Camry and still uses wax to coat their frames so GM is Not an option for me . I only buy Tradesman level trucks as they are just tools for me to get a job done. I have a Lexus SUV as my daily driver which is a real luxury vehicle.
@nairbudy6403
@nairbudy6403 Ай бұрын
I wish you all the luck and that you don’t encounter “diesel problems” that seem to plague modern diesels.
@jeffclark4008
@jeffclark4008 2 ай бұрын
Bought 3 2021 F350's with the 7.3. they've been really good. Very powerful and pretty okay on fuel, but one of them blew a motor at 120k. We changed plugs at 60k, but that was it. apparently that's not good enough. Several plugs fouled, clogged the cats and blew the motor. Lesson learned on my part
@marshaclifton1535
@marshaclifton1535 Ай бұрын
I'm worried. I have a winnebago adventure class A with same godzilla engine. Before that I had a diesel which with dep and increased maintenance I don't like diesel. Thank you so much for details, what to watch for. I'm 70 and might have to live in this otherwise well-made rv. Jez, I thought a naturally aspirated engine....was a good thing
@marshaclifton1535
@marshaclifton1535 Ай бұрын
Plus it's 2022
@Theo8863
@Theo8863 Ай бұрын
I eliminated the troubles with delete. Removed all pollution control. Runs so much better. Cooler and more milage. I use Archoil keeps the lifters clean and many other benefits. Check into it. 185,000. Only normal maintenance.
@leonajameson8902
@leonajameson8902 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2006 F350 one ton. That motor is crap but it is still going strong and I still love it.
@MannyWC
@MannyWC 2 ай бұрын
Same with the Ram 2500s- cams and lifters go if idling too long; the oil doesn’t make it up to lube them.
@JBidensucks
@JBidensucks Ай бұрын
Sources ????
@olebloom1641
@olebloom1641 2 ай бұрын
I've had a 7.3L Diesel with a tune on it that pulled hard. The only long lasting diesel from all three brands. I was hoping one of the big three would ink a deal with Scania N.A. for one of their engines. Solid engines with no emissions craziness and still passes tier 4.
@rooster-zg4oo
@rooster-zg4oo Ай бұрын
Cummins were always more reliable engines. A 12 valve Cummins is more reliable than the 7.3 diesel
@greghanson5864
@greghanson5864 2 ай бұрын
Have now, in three years, added 70,000 miles to our F250 6.7 diesel that pulls our 30’ Airstream effortlessly averaging 14ish mpg when pulling and 20 mpg when not. Was it a little on the expensive side? Yeah. Has it been a great vehicle for us? Absolutely! Good luck with yours!
@deltabravo1257
@deltabravo1257 2 ай бұрын
How does your truck get better MPG when towing compared to not towing?
@greghanson5864
@greghanson5864 2 ай бұрын
@@deltabravo1257 Sorry for fat fingers. Should read 14ish when towing!
@Tool0GT92
@Tool0GT92 Ай бұрын
Bought my first GM last year - 2024 Silverado 3500HD with the gas engine and the 10 speed and its been great. I like all three of the big truck companies, but right now if you want a gas truck I'm recommending the Chevy.
@jmonte58
@jmonte58 Ай бұрын
Now that you have the Ford Diesel 6.7, you should look at Bank Power, the pedal monster, Banks I Dash super gauge & batamonster, Banks Ram-air, Air Element, Monster Exhaust system, Ram-Air Differential Cover kit, Air Temperature Sensor, Psia pressure sensor, fluid Temperature sensor, starter cable and kit, universal OBD II splitter. This what I recommend for your truck. Also Amsel oil for the engine and differential This what I put in my truck. I don’t work for Banks, I just saw on KZbin and I do not regret the investment in my F250 super duty.
@SK-qt1rm
@SK-qt1rm 2 ай бұрын
So, my Chevy 2500HD was first year model of diesels with DEF. I had multiple DEF issues starting at 35k miles. I always buy extended warranties from the manufacturer. 75k later I wanted to renew, one dealership said GMAC doesn’t do that anymore and wanted to sell me a different extended warranty. When you read the fine print, doesn’t cover DEF. I declined. I went to another towns Chevy dealership…”sure, no problem”. I got an extension for 108k miles from GMAC. Used it. Now I know more about DEF, last fix was about 20k ago. (154k). YT has good vids about changing Tank parts. Off the shelf warranties are a side hustle for some dealerships that have lots of exclusions. Side note: shortly after purchase, Chevy issued service bulletin extending DEF warranty to 100k or 10yrs.
@tmtex
@tmtex 2 ай бұрын
I have a 30ft, 7500K max camper, TT not 5th wheel. I had a 2020 F-150. It worked fine, but could struggle with mountains. In 2022 , I was browsing for a F-250, which were no where to be found. I happened to find one 6.7 and they didnt ask the 20K markup. Big game changer. Truck loves hauling the camper. hauls right up the hills. Now with that said, I do I like driving it around, no. It like riding in a stage coach from the 1800's. I do have another daily driver. If it was available I would have gone 350 but the 250 is great.
@chadmiller6487
@chadmiller6487 2 ай бұрын
My 7.3 started having issues at 35k miles. I went with the gmc 6.6 gas. 70k and no issues. Also the difference in ride quality is insane.
@bobnelson2828
@bobnelson2828 2 ай бұрын
My buddy's 2024 3500 Chevy rides AWFUL. Not buying the ride thing.
@chadmiller6487
@chadmiller6487 2 ай бұрын
@bobnelson2828 it's insanely better than the f350. Especially when loaded. All 1 tons ride awful empty.
@chadmiller6487
@chadmiller6487 2 ай бұрын
@bobnelson2828 it's insanely better than the f350. Especially when loaded. All 1 tons ride awful empty.
@MSparks9509
@MSparks9509 2 ай бұрын
Owned a deleted 2014 Ford 6.7 F250 for 10 years. Really enjoyed the truck. Put 15-20K miles a year on it. Got into a 2024 F350 Tremor with the 7.3. Like the truck but the gas mileage is terrible which is a shock to no one. I only tow at most 10-11K pounds and I only do long trips towing (4-10 hours) that a few times a year. Most of the time the truck is empty running around town. It tows a 5K pound boat locally or to boat ramps within an hour of my house. My yearly truck mileage also dropped to 10-15K tops each year. So I’m the “prime candidate” for a HD gasser. If I start driving more again or start doing more long trips in the future I’ll most likely jump back to diesel. The fuel mileage and the relaxed interstate towing nature are noticeable. I have to manage what gear the truck is in much more when running the cruise control at 70 through rolling hills and the Appalachian mountain range much more than my old truck. Which is to be expected but still. So as always buy the truck that’s best for your needs! Don’t worry about what everyone else is using. Use what’s best for you and your personal needs. For me at this current junction in time it’s a HD gasser. But that very well may change in the future and I could end up back in a diesel.
@scottgorman7166
@scottgorman7166 2 ай бұрын
I had the 6.0 and had nothing but problems for 10 years. Ford keep offering extended warranties for 10 years. Interesting!
@schwartz757
@schwartz757 2 ай бұрын
We have been using a 21 F250. Been pulling our IBEX 19MBH. Get 22mpg without and 12.5mpg towing. Good luck!!
@warrenscorner
@warrenscorner Ай бұрын
We purchased a Silverado 2500HD with the Duramax in 2013. It has 110k miles now and it’s still running great. It’s been all over the country, up and down all sorts of mountains. We’ve pulled trailers with it and even had a truck camper for awhile. I will never buy another gas truck.
@jayf6525
@jayf6525 Ай бұрын
When I bought an F250, I never considered for a second not getting the diesel. It’s a beast. So impressive.
@tombrown8522
@tombrown8522 2 ай бұрын
6.7's had their issues '11 thru '14, then different issue '14-'16. We got a '17 with the 6.7 towing a 10K travel trailer and have been to South Dakota twice. Maine, Ohio, Colorado, Montana and North Dakota with nothing but regular maintenance. Thinking about upgrading the OEM fuel pump to an S&S pump, but with regular maintenance, feel pretty confident that the 6.7 is about bulletproof with regular oil and fuel filter changes. Great choice going with the 6.7! Plus diesel fuel has a chance to be MUCH cheaper if orange Godzilla takes the top spot in 2025! I know it was $2.05/gal in PA when we bought our truck, then quickly went to $4.99/gal in PA in early 2021. I'll let you guess the reason!
@jimballuff3849
@jimballuff3849 2 ай бұрын
Really???? trump never had any proof ( convicted criminal, convicted rapist, proven liar, proven cheater, proven adultery, never had a successful business, six bankruptcies. 5 kids by three different women. couldn't pass a background check for any job in this country! He's not allowed in 37 countries because of his criminal convictions and you're voting for him. ...SO SHOW US YOUR PROOF tom brown.....were still waiting.....
@J.W.W.
@J.W.W. 2 ай бұрын
Gas prices were never cheaper than during trumps four years. Then came the ‘blues’ in 2020, and all heck broke loose with the prices of EVERYTHING. Looking forward to 2025’s corrections to almost everything!
@AaronLeaich
@AaronLeaich Ай бұрын
Pandemic!!!!!!
@SK-qt1rm
@SK-qt1rm 2 ай бұрын
Other Trade offs with gas/diesel: gas has spark plug changes every 30-45k, diesel has point changes every 100k or so. Everything costs more on a diesel. Where I’m at, a lot of shops stopped working on diesels, too much hassle. Diesels last longer, but in the rust belt, does that really matter. Diesels have more power, but do you need it. You have to buy DEF, that is a whole separate bag of worms. If you run out of gas in a diesel, you have to prime the pumps….you can’t just add more.
@TraconWizard
@TraconWizard 2 ай бұрын
If you're traveling, finding a diesel mechanic just adds to the stress.
@Qrail
@Qrail 2 ай бұрын
I have a 1994 Ram 5.9 diesel with 95,000 original miles. Probably the wrong guy to talk here. I think the transmission (automatic) might need a rebuild, but the truck itself keeps chugging along. It leaks a little oil, but on a recent trip from LA to Fresno, I achieved 24 mpg (empty). New truck? No. Mine is fine. And it’s mechanical, not electronic, so I think it will outlive some of the newer junk out there.
@douglowney3901
@douglowney3901 Ай бұрын
Just switched to the F250 6.7. Had the 7.3 as well and went through 5 catalytic converters
@jaydoubleu101
@jaydoubleu101 2 ай бұрын
At minimum I'd suggest an S&S Disaster Prevention Kit to contain the shrapnel from the CP4 pump failure. $500 plus install, but it could be a difference of being stranded in the middle of nowhere, and limping back to a place where it could be serviced.
@RelaxedEZ223
@RelaxedEZ223 Ай бұрын
My 07 Chevy HD, diesel and Allison transmission, is the best truck I've ever owned. Only a quarter of the computers and sensors.
@donorcutt3605
@donorcutt3605 Ай бұрын
Love your podcast! We are US residents traveling in a slide-in truck camper on a Ram. Traveling in Newfoundland our Ram 2500 had a module malfunction and found our US warranty is not recognized in CA and neither are FORD warranties. This also applies for Canadian purchased vehicles traveling in US. Being former Toyota Tundra owners (Toyota does) we were shocked to say the least! (Yes, I know the meaning of “assume”! ) I have now spoke with many Ram and Ford owners on the road and not 1 owner has said they knew this! Would love to see you dig into this and help us look at options, if any! Sure has a sobering impact on travel to Canada!
@KU9L
@KU9L 2 ай бұрын
We bought a 2023 Chevy 2500HD with the 6.6L gas engine. It does wonders towing our 2023 GD Imagine 2670mk weighing 8495#. We have 14K miles on it now, 9.5.mpg towing 17-19 mpg not towing on long distance highway miles. We just purchased a 2025 Brinkley 5W the same 33 ft length as our TT, but 6,000 pounds heavier GVWR. We are going with the Gen-Y Gooseneck pin box to utilize our 3,508# cargo capacity in the truck to stay in good terms with our pin weight. The 14,495# GVWR of our new 5W will be a challenge, but the floorplan allows external storage fore and aft to balance out things. We tow twice per year from FL to IL to CO and back again as we are now semi-retired. We don't drive fast and we take plenty of Harvest Host breaks. During our 6 months in Colorado we very lightly use our Chevy as we have 4 work trucks owned by our consessionaire employer. We may go diesel, but our 3/4 ton worked great for our new TT when our 2017 F-150 struggled for road stability when we shifted from our Lance TT to our GD TT. Before we leave Cheyenne in October we will hit the Cat Scales to adjust where our loads sit to make sure we are not overloaded on the truck side. We added 3K# Sumo Springs to our truck rear axle for reducing bottoming out on bridge expansion joints & the Gen-Y pin box will reduce the chucking once broken in. I know our fuel economy will be more like 6 mpg, but that 6.6L gas engine is a pussycat so far. Doing 6-8K miles per year seems to limit its wear and tear, we will see how we do on both our IL & FL stops in Oct/Nov. Of course our Dodge Ram friends think we are highly underpowered & not so safe, but so far the numbers work for us. We shall see. Cheers, David & Sheila Knapp
@scottmichaels12
@scottmichaels12 2 ай бұрын
I had a Toyota Tundra (1/2 ton) gas, that could easily tow 8500lbs. If you're new RV is 14,000lb, you definitely need a minimum of a 3/4 ton diesel, not gas. Just because you CAN tow with your current vehicle, doesn't mean that you SHOULD tow with your current vehicle. That's a lot of stress on a 3/4 ton gas engine. I currently have a 3500 Duramax dually towing about a 15K fifth wheel and it's perfect. I'm not a "RAM" guy, but your RAM friends are correct, you are highly underpowered. Your current truck will be just fine, until all of a sudden it isn't fine anymore, and you will regret towing such heavy loads with that particular truck. Hopefully your warranty will cover all of the damage that you're currently doing to it.
@KU9L
@KU9L 2 ай бұрын
@@scottmichaels12 After looking at hundreds of 3/4-ton diesels al.multiple brands, none had enough payload capacity to not be overloaded due to the pin weight. The funny thing, our 2023 gas 6.6L has the same TQ & HO that our 2008 diesel had and we towed a 5W weighing 15,000 lbs all over the country. That 2008 6.6L diesel had virtually no exhaust breaking & the TH mode had virtually no help in slowing mountain passes. I do not know what this engine/trans combo was intended, but 3rd gear in TH mode has x100 more holdback than my 2012 F-350 dually had. Life is full of mysteries.
@coozhunter4434
@coozhunter4434 Ай бұрын
We did the same and pulled to Alaska no problem. Absolutely love our 6.6 gas 😉
@michaellopour7409
@michaellopour7409 2 ай бұрын
A lot of the problem with extended warranties is that a middle man prices in pure profit. Paying basically at cost for an extended warranty is really good insurance. Ford warranties are a good example, as long as you live in a state that allows you to purchase across state lines.
@sherriweber7105
@sherriweber7105 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Jason for saying why you bought diesel and not gas. I’m happy for you no matter what you buy! Im glad you got a truck that runs good and that you debatable to worry about getting the other one fixed. Do you have fifth wheel anymore? Or you just have the IBEX? I’m glad you bought something you wanted and liked. As long as you like it that’s all that counts. I like it too! Tell Abby hello! Have a great night and eeek. See you soon!
@pierredelecto7069
@pierredelecto7069 Ай бұрын
Lots of folks switch from gas to diesel then switch back years later when they get charged 5k or more to replace their DEF system. I drive a huge variety of diesel equipment and it's not what it used to be.
@TonkaFire2019
@TonkaFire2019 26 күн бұрын
Until you can delete them
@pierredelecto7069
@pierredelecto7069 26 күн бұрын
@TonkaFire2019 yeah careful man. The day is coming when you won't be able to register it anymore. Almost every state is cracking down on modifications to these systems. The few states that don't are considering it. It's popular with voters, most people don't want extra smog so that we can spend less on truck repairs.
@lesnewsom6000
@lesnewsom6000 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was, WAS looking at a used 2021 F350 with the godzilla motor and, it has 72k miles on it! I wanted the truck, but really did not need to get a 350. This was enough of a reason for me to refocus. Thanks!
@lyleswavel320
@lyleswavel320 2 ай бұрын
The ford dealerships are stacked up with 2024 super dutys, air conditioning pump problems has people scared
@mathieugauthier3088
@mathieugauthier3088 13 күн бұрын
Changed the one on my 2019 f150 twice already and i'm just under 38k miles
@jdright1157
@jdright1157 Ай бұрын
I consider your take as an honest objective opinion, thank you! As an owner of a 2020 F250 Lariat (built in January of said year, just before to great shutdown and supply chain issues, which may have led to your issues, jmho...) we did recently look at a 2023 F450 dually... but could not justify doubling the loan payment. So far, from northern Ohio and currently in northern Texas, I am a little hyper vigilant to any odd or strange noises based on your experience. But so far, I am happy with my F250 7.3L gasser. But still... 🤔... and we only have half the mileage you had... I am still trying to be optimistic 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Aceman597
@Aceman597 Ай бұрын
Im glad i have older trucks that keep going.
@BajaGirl302
@BajaGirl302 2 ай бұрын
I will only go diesel when having to pull anything! The engines last longer, and yes they can cost more to fix, well worth the investment! I love my diesel. 💗
@RVMiles
@RVMiles 2 ай бұрын
Fair enough!
@anthonyhitchings1051
@anthonyhitchings1051 2 ай бұрын
Component parts are so $$ these days that an extended warranty is more attractive than it used to be. The TIPM on my Jeep Liberty was $1,300 (just the part!). Never mind the diagnostic fee. I installed it myself.
@babyreps365
@babyreps365 2 ай бұрын
That's been the plan for awhile bud. Endless monthly car payments and extended warranty. So much wasted money.
@bobanddangsjourney
@bobanddangsjourney 2 ай бұрын
Great video - we have the 2021 7.3 Tremor (I remember seeing when you. bought yours thinking its a twin). It has eaten 2 spark plug wires now (keep a spare after the first one failed, and that really helped us in the desert when the second one failed ;) . No issues with the lifters yet but we did get the 100k extended warranty mainly because it was a new engine. Fingers crossed. Hopefully the diesel is better to you. Thanks for making this one.
@theoutdoordad7395
@theoutdoordad7395 2 ай бұрын
I’m a Ford guy and have to admit Ford quality has become job last. Too many recalls, major power train failures. I’m done.
@RickysHP
@RickysHP Ай бұрын
The others are no better, to be honest. Ram is having lifter failures constantly on 2019+ Cummins engines... GM trucks are junk, too.
@theoutdoordad7395
@theoutdoordad7395 Ай бұрын
@@RickysHPyup that’s why I bought a used Toyota tundra- prior generation
@northlander4370
@northlander4370 Ай бұрын
G M just had a huge recall !
@scottmichaels12
@scottmichaels12 2 ай бұрын
If towing heavy with gasoline engines was actually as good as towing with diesel engines, there would be no need for diesel engines. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean that you SHOULD do something. I CAN mow my 40 acres on a regular basis with my zero turn lawn mower, but should I and how long is that lawn mower going to last me?
@buckmeredith1720
@buckmeredith1720 2 ай бұрын
That is a very poor analogy. The difference between gas and diesel towing is between 10 and 20 percent. The difference in your analogy was more than 400 percent.
@MYJ61
@MYJ61 2 ай бұрын
The word I got was that the cam followers are made of laminated steel and that they are delaminating. They get smaller, hence the diminishing fuel range, then eventually eating into the cam shafts.
@blakew1026
@blakew1026 2 ай бұрын
It is an issue with just 2 years of trucks and affects all 3 HD gas motors. It is a quality control issue since they all have use the same camshaft supplier. The camshafts didn't get heatreated and get hardened right.
@mrmichaeltscott
@mrmichaeltscott 2 ай бұрын
Oh no! That's one engine I was looking at until I heard about the valve train failures. I thought they'd straighten it out by now.
@calledtojourney
@calledtojourney 2 ай бұрын
To be honest, it seems that the lifters going bad on the 7.3L is fairly rare, but when Ford is selling hundreds of thousands of these, even just 1% is a lot of vehicles. There are no truly 'bulletproof' engines or vehicles out there, and something catastrophic can happen to anything.
@TheAbrownie
@TheAbrownie 2 ай бұрын
Jason congratulations on your truck. I had a 2015 6.7 and just bought a 2024 6.7 H/O love it. But please please use the diesel fuel additive. The CP4 fuel pump needs the extra lubrication. It also helps with the injectors. Enjoy your purchase.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles 2 ай бұрын
Any suggestion on an additive? I used to run Diesel Kleen in the bus.
@ProudAmerican101
@ProudAmerican101 2 ай бұрын
@@RVMiles A lot of folks recommend hot shots. What were your oil change intervals and what oil did you use in your 7.3?
@MSparks9509
@MSparks9509 2 ай бұрын
Archoil
@situationaladventures
@situationaladventures 2 ай бұрын
@@RVMilesUsed hot shots for awhile and recently switched to Archoil system (1 small bottle every 5k and regular additive serving from larger bottle every fill up) and have seen longer intervals between regens AND has the lubricity for the CP4. PTT w/ Arod is a great channel to watch for 6.7 PS owners. KYD visited him for a DCR and intake upgrade.
@anthonyhitchings1051
@anthonyhitchings1051 2 ай бұрын
Decades ago my 327 V8 Chevy Impala sedan was backfiring , the problem was #7 cylinder - it turned out that the lifter had gone bad and flattened the relevant cam. So I removed the pushrods and ran the engine as a V7 - which worked great. I did change all the remaining 7 lifters - which had a lot of gummy varnish on them - so from then on I only used synthetic oil to reduce the possibility of sticking lifters in the future.
@markwiegard8384
@markwiegard8384 2 ай бұрын
Use diesel fuel additives to keep the re-burn exhaust system clean. Makes a difference to include mileage, about 1 mile per gallon. Not that big but just for keep the exhaust reburn cycle clean is worth it.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles 2 ай бұрын
Any suggestions on brands? I use to run Diesel Kleen in our bus.
@markwiegard8384
@markwiegard8384 2 ай бұрын
@@RVMiles I think running any fuel additive to increase octane is a good idea anyway. Diesel is a low grade fuel that can spoil and absorb water. The fuel additive will mix with water and keep anything that might grow in you tank. Best of all, if you have to get fuel from a smaller gas station it helps with old diesel. Anything to keep the diesel mechanic away.
@rontaylor2094
@rontaylor2094 6 күн бұрын
A note to my earlier post. My 1997 7.3 diesel idles a lot. When I go to my farm on the other side of the mountains (I live in Washington State) my truck idles all day while I work. If hot the A/C is on for my dog and if cold the heater is on. I only have 277,000 miles on it but I've had the truck for 25 years and that's a lot of idling time. Will the new 6.7 Powerstroke hold up to all that idling..only time will tell.
@wiliamowens
@wiliamowens 2 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 2022 7.3 that I pull a 13-14k lb 5th wheel with. I think it’s a great combo. We are weekend campers, and most of my driving is less than 5 miles to the grocery store. That type of driving does not seem good on the diesel emissions systems. So far I’m loving the truck but I’m only at 34k miles, but the lifter issue is a concern. Hopefully it won’t affect me. But honestly the lifter issues seems to be a similar fail rate as the cp4 pump. But like you said at the end of the video, the 7.3 works well for the 10-16k lb campers.
@RVMiles
@RVMiles 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, seems like it will either hit you or it won't and there probably isn't a whole lot you can do about it, so best to just enjoy the truck.
@wiliamowens
@wiliamowens 2 ай бұрын
@@RVMiles that’s my plan, just keep on trucking. My last truck was a 2002 Chevy with the 6.0 gasser. Not nearly the power of the 7.3, but I drove it for 20 years, and 268k trouble free miles.
@fuzzywigglebutt
@fuzzywigglebutt 2 ай бұрын
I am curious as I am considering either an F250 with the 7.3 or an F350 with the 6.7 diesel. Do you have the 34 gallon tank? It seems you would be stopping all the time to get fuel at 8MPG. Do you have issues finding places to pull a 5th wheel at a gas pump? As a note, the reason for the F350 for diesel is that the 5th wheel I am going to buy is at 14,995 max. That is putting about 2,400 lbs of pin weight in the truck and most of the diesels in F250s seems to have payload of only about 2,900. Not a lot of loading up the truck room left. The F250 7.3 I looked at had 3,450 for payload obviously due to the lighter engine. To get the payload with a diesel I would need to go with an F350.
@gorvyourself
@gorvyourself 2 ай бұрын
We had a 2020 7.3 as well and loved it. We towed heavy all over the US. It’s a great engine but like you we change to 6.7 as well as we looked for over a year for a used 7.3 with 4.3 back and could not find one. It happened at the same time as diesel pricing went below gas
@GK49245
@GK49245 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the details. Good decisions. Had a Sierra 2500 diesel. Terrible truck, especially the engine. Tried to get a F350 gas. Terrible company and dealers. Agree on only a true manufacturer’s extended warranty. Hope this shift offers y’all a reliable, comfortable tow. We downsized from 30 ft Airstream Classic to fiberglass Escape 19 ft. Super duty trucks are off our list, thank goodness. Our current tow vehicle is a 2020 MB Sprinter 2500.
@sarahseevinck8470
@sarahseevinck8470 Ай бұрын
We towed all summer (3 months full time) about 10,500lbs 37ft travel trailer with our 2020 f250 gas truck. It's the base model and the smallest engine (6.3l??). For the most part it towed great and gas stations were not a problem except a couple of small older ones with tiny gas stations. We did struggle a couple of times with engine temperature and torque climbing some short steep grades. But we climbed back and forth over steep mountain passes a ton in record heat, so I was surprised that we had only 2 times that it struggled. But we nursed it over those sections and lived to tell the tale. I wish we had gone f-350 and older, maybe diesel too. I don't like the environmental impact of diesel (but who am I kidding, we've been driving an f-250 all over the western US for 18 months, there are greener choices I could have made than owning a super duty of any kind!). It came down to our budget and not being able to find that vehicle at the time. Next year we are trading out for a LQ gooseneck horse trailer - so now I really wish we had the f-350. But we have what we have and we are underwater on it so I think we are planning to keep it for now. Mostly we love it. and now we have an EV on lease for around town, so that's nice. All in all, we came back to the US to RV and adventure and that's what we have done. It unfortunately takes really expensive 'toys' to do that. It's not sensible. But neither is not living life to the fullest! And now we are home from our extended trip, I'm itching to get out camping every other weekend. Thankfully, you can camp all year in Utah in amazing scenery. We are lucky that we get to do these things.
@scramjet4610
@scramjet4610 Ай бұрын
Another KZbin channel focusing on F250 diesel trucks suggested that he thinks a main reason for the CP4 fuel pump issues is simply not keeping the fuel filter clean and carelessly putting DEF or gasoline in the diesel tank.
@mcgilm69
@mcgilm69 Ай бұрын
I have a 2017 F-150 Platinum. There are things I like, and things I could definitely do without, but the one thing that has spoiled me and I will never own a vehicle without it...Adaptive Cruise Control!
@RVMiles
@RVMiles Ай бұрын
Adaptive CC is soooo great.
@E_House
@E_House 2 ай бұрын
We love our 7.3L and haven't had any issues with it. We thought it towed wonderfully in the Rockies. We don't tow heavy. MPG is abysmal though.
@dgambrel9241
@dgambrel9241 Ай бұрын
We have all the big brand heavy trucks for work trucks. We just got a brand new Chevrolet 6.6 gas with the Allison, and it is a really strong truck. Even with the hydraulic system and tool bed. I like my duramax, but I would buy the gas and Allison combo in a heartbeat. We have a 7.3 in a 550 and it’s not been much pumpkin
@tycotoys
@tycotoys Ай бұрын
I no longer buy Ford trucks, too many reliability issues, now use a GMC Sierra HD with Duramax/Allison combo and zero issues. What good is all that power if it’s in the shop all the time.
@tractorfixrable
@tractorfixrable 2 ай бұрын
My 7.3 had a lifter failure at 105,000 kms. 60,000 miles 🫤 I had extended warranty and got a new engine in 10 days. My question. The truck F550 is a 2021. So hopefully my engine is a 2024 with with updates. Can’t get an answer from anyone
@ozzielinkin
@ozzielinkin 2 ай бұрын
I wonder why Ford switched from the V 10 motor to the V8. I have a 2011 class C with the V 10 Ford on a 1 ton chassis and cross my fingers. It has not missed a lick. Thanks for a great video . Good info to know .
@grumpy7724
@grumpy7724 2 ай бұрын
I bought a ‘20 Silverado 2500HD diesel since I wanted a larger fuel tank that my ‘17 6.2 Max Trailering 1500 didn’t have. I wasn’t overly impressed for the first 9 months. My 6.2 had more HP/LB and was actually quicker accelerating from 50 - 70 when towing our 8K lb trailer. The first time I put the 2500HD to the floor to overtake a vehicle, I was really disappointed in the performance. Over time I’ve grown to like the diesel, I like the low rev torque, quietness and the fuel economy for an 8800 lb truck as it now sits is really good. The roads I travel generally yield 18 - 21 MPG and I’m not paying for premium gasoline any more. I’ve owned and driven several diesel automobiles so I knew I accelerating would be different but was surprised that the HP/LB made such a difference.
@caldoito
@caldoito 2 ай бұрын
Excellent information! ive been in the process of looking for a new hd truck and I was set on gas. Then my interest was peaked after I watched a few diesel reviews. I went and drove a few and while I don't currently pull anything, I just want one. Even with all the concerns.
@NormRidg
@NormRidg 2 ай бұрын
Diesel is the way to go for heavier tow RVs. Went from gas to diesel and so much easier drive. Use cruise most of time. Better up hill and down hill was much improved with exhaust break. Using less fuel when towing.
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