Should rally 2 cars be banned from State Championships?

[@the510wagon]

It's a similar issue with the massive issues facing tarmac rally competition in Australia at the moment. My opinion is probably very unpopular, but that's nothing new.... We need to find a polite way to get the orthodontists, orthopedic surgeons, hedge fund managers, IT Contractors, lawyers and Daddy's Race Team etc to either buy less expensive cars and have just as much fun, or get them to move-up to higher level competition where they will either sink or swim regardless of budget. IMO the recent fatalities in Targa Racing were in a small part a result of very wealthy blokes in their 50's, 60's or even older buying state-of-the-art 600HP German Beetles, for more than half million taco shells, and then entering complex/difficult events like Targa Tasmania, WITHOUT twenty or thirty years of karts, club cars, gymkhana, whatever under their belts. Their grass-roots resumes are a little "thin". It's like rocking up to Commonwealth Games and swimming against the pros, just because you can afford a big pool at home. Older blokes with less-than-stellar reflexes, skills and experience in scalpel sharp supercars on narrow, wet roads and a big shiny chrome trophy has proved to be an unfortunate combination. I know there's a lengthy license process, but those with excess coin can get through it faster when they're focused on getting to "first grade" as quickly as possible. Entry fees and tyre consumption are no handbrake for these racers. But more importantly, the whole point is being missed. You can have just as much fun in a 20 year old WRX. Or an XR6 Falcon. Or an old classic. Yeah, you could die in those cars too, but they are theoretically more forgiving when you run out of talent. (I'll just put my flame suit and helmet on now, while everyone loads up to shoot down my awful judgmental comments)

[@mikehosken4328]

As someone who organises a clubman’s rally (in NZ) I’ve seen an Evo 3 lancer beat the likes of AP4 cars on a blind event 7 years in a row. To me it’s not a question of modern cars v older cars because it doesn’t really matter at all at a regional level. It’s always been a mixed field of guys and girls either having a skid or chasing the championship in whatever you can afford to run, you need all these people to turn up to keep running events. Getting rid of newer AP4 cars and the like would remove a part of the field that you need.

[@ATR-_]

There absolutely should be limitations, weight, power and tech needs to be kept below a limit to make the playing field even. That means checking the cars before competition to enforce rules.

[@lemiwinks7794]

As a spectator/road closure official/photographer this is proposing removing the most exciting and appealing photography opportunities with the hugely dynamic body language of the vehicle. Why punish the spectators

[@bradray5576]

How about rally WA runs it like ARC and have a production category as well as overall?

[@rallyactionwa]

The 2024 regs have just come out. There is a production category this year. 👍

[@MrGrabbingtruck]

All Group n cars or one make championships back in the day created great competition which even a clubman team on a budget could afford.

[@harteck4452]

No!! Banning cars is the dumbest thing a governing body could ever do. CAMS back in the day drove so many people out of the sport it wasn’t funny. Best thing is to use air restrictors to close the field up. Make small changes on the run and keep it competitive. Keep it simple. Rules should be set so the BOP is done mathematically and on procedure and not to the discretion of the organisers. That way it takes the accusations of favouritism out of it.

[@mathewross3398]

Bring back group G!