Should This Be Legal?

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[@snowvalkyrie]

Either don’t make it a rule or enforce the rules you have. It's that simple.

[@nuclearchris832]

Kind of how our country runs

[@BLKnPrd67]

Certain rules have no effect on the flow or outcome of the game until one party attempts to exploit them.

[@CorePathway]

Trump says what 😂😂😂

[@ronlefty]

Kinda sounds like our government. No double standards

[@koatam]

Just takes one person to ruin it for every one else.

[@Thunderbolt2396]

I forget that box exists 95% of the time

[@NoGoodEditsRoadTo1K]

Same

[@Homedepotorange]

I didn't even know what it was for

[@Jax24official]

Same

[@VeloNFL19]

Same

[@Swarmzbiggestfan]

It doesn’t exist, neither does baseball. It’s all fake.

[@hamoostaffat]

Perfect example of "give an inch they'll take a mile"

[@Charlies_Factory]

Reply to me if you smell

[@DolFinDude23]

@@Charlies_Factorythey get want they want but then they get greedy and want more and more

[@favoritemustard3542]

@@Charlies_Factory actually think about what you said. You don't have the inch if you gave it away.

[@hamoostaffat]

@@Charlies_Factory awww did you have to edit your idiocy away? 🤣 Try better next time you want to troll, don't care if your gonna troll but at least put some effort in ffs

[@Charlies_Factory]

@@hamoostaffat looool it worked look how mad you are

[@blueahoula3239]

Whoever wrote the line, “there’s no crying in baseball” obviously never watched a mlb game

[@Treeofwysdm]

Exactly!! 😂

[@patrickmckermitt3104]

A game with Boone anyway.

[@ggentlemanw]

Facts. There’s actually tons of crying in baseball

[@isitoveryet9525]

There’s a lot of whining in every professional sport, but having rules that are only sometimes implemented is goofy af.

[@RobertStaudt-w9k]

There's also a saying In baseball " if you're not cheating you ain't trying" meaning every team does this in some capacity, it's as old as the game. There's not 1 team that can say they're not trying to get every advantage they can and if say they're not trying to get an advantage they are lying! You just can't use any technology to steal signs like the Red Sucks and Asstros did.

[@jz7747]

If it’s the rule, then they should stay in the box. If it’s not a big deal, then get rid of the rule.

[@brandonfrancey5592]

The thing with baseball is a lot of rules are only enforce if the other team asks for it. Take a runner on third. No outs. Next pitch is popped up. Runner leaves early before it's caught and scores. The umpire will see it but won't say anything. The run scores and counts unless the other team appeals the play. Only then will the runner be out and the run taken off the board.

[@angrytater2456]

It was a big deal because they were using it to steal pitches. It wasn't just the fact he was outside the box.

[@PhilW7670]

@@brandonfrancey5592 I admittedly do not watch MLB, but I can't imagine any team allowing a run to count if the baserunner didn't tag up on a fly ball. I suppose they might not say anything if they want the same advantage, but I just can't imagine arbitrarily enforcing that rule.

[@khalilwilson2586]

@@PhilW7670 not really allowing them to score but if no opposing coach sees it but an umpire does the ump won’t say anything. But when the opposing team says something the ump will pretty much say “yeah you’re right I saw it too”.

[@brandonfrancey5592]

@@PhilW7670 A team wouldn't intentionally allow a run to score, it falls under the other team not paying attention. Its incredibly rare for a player to leave a bag early and get away with it, but it can happen.

[@peterfconley]

One of my favorite traditions in baseball is drawing a box to remind the base coaches where _not_ to stand.

[@donsheffler]

The box is lava

[@rumhave9632]

They should be forced to follow the rules. How petty.

[@001bronze]

Why should they be forced to follow a rule that no one follows already. Just remove the rule😂

[@irmiwolf]

@@001bronze because if you drop one rule because everyone is ignoring it you show every player and team that if enough people ignore a rule it will be dropped. Want to use sticky stuff to get better grip? Just get other teams to do it too. Want to start running without even being allowed to? Just get other teams to do it too.

[@jasonsfeverdream]

​@@001bronzeno, just follow the rule and quit breaking it

[@sherylmartin7059]

Bev they will cheat if you don’t

[@kulaasuncion8603]

​@@001bronzeq

[@bobboberson2024]

Yeah, there’s the box for a REASON. It’s like the traveling rule in basketball. The umpires and referees should enforce the rules consistently. Or you get THIS.

[@robertstump7883]

Yes enforce it. Apparently this has been a problem before. That’s why we have them.

[@markheithaus]

Seems obvious, doesn't it? There's a box.

[@BasedAFPatriot]

Who cares, as a former pitcher, I'd sometime tell the hitter what was coming. Most hitters didn't believe me and struck out. I tried? 🤷

[@BMB1105]

@@BasedAFPatriotIn little league that might work but tell them the pitch in MLB and it’s a different story.

[@Tiger69420]

@@BMB1105 Everybody knew Nolan Ryan was gonna throw a fastball and that Mariano Rivera was gonna throw the cutter. Batters still struck out. If your good enough, it shouldn’t matter

[@Puruvian]

@@Tiger69420 pitchers are different, some pitchers rely on multiple pitches to fool batters like yu darvish or kyle hendricks

[@itzsombra10]

Dude called him a fat boy while being fatter that has me dying

[@KitchenerLeslie2]

That’s the way we (semi-fat guys) do it.

[@draft897]

Muscle

[@Oshawatt]

He was like if the other guy had eaten a clone of himself and still had the confidence to say that. Mad respect

[@doc145]

No he wasn’t fatter. That’s muscle not fat. C’mon man!

[@that.ll_do_pig]

​@@doc145 those chipmunk cheeks give him away.

[@benjaminmorris4962]

If the rule exists, it should be enforced. If you don't want to enforce it, get rid of the rule. Idc either way if it's legal or illegal, just enforce the rules or get rid of them

[@bobh6728]

This one only has a penalty if the opposing manager complains. Rule 5.93(c)

[@robg8203]

@@bobh6728 baseball rules suck

[@bobh6728]

@@robg8203 If you started a league, what rules would you have? Or which ones would you change? There are a lot of different rule sets now, tee ball, little league, NFHS, NCAA, MLB, etc, adding a new set should be no big deal.

[@Viscalis]

@@bobh6728 In-field fly ball since I hit a nuke and it was bases loaded and the dude dropped it like bro lol. i’m obviously jk this was high school btw

[@donarthiazi2443]

​@@bobh6728 I would have a definitive strike zone that's the same for all umpires.

[@paratroopmike3754]

“Fat Boy!” Has my guy seen himself 😂

[@therealbeedubbs35]

I used to paint those boxes u better damn well use them! Lol

[@chrishamilton8134]

❤

[@mick7even]

😂 same. Field prep is glorious

[@ericvandruten]

wait.. the LINES are being used, to establish that no-one is using the boxes.

[@chrisgrant7450]

Base coach Line Painters of the World Unite!!

[@d5o1001]

Right! Why did I waste my time? Also that perfect circle for people on deck. You get back in that circle

[@adamsapples777]

Yes, I think coaches need to stay in the box if for no other reason then to prevent them from seeing the pitchers grip etc..as was clearly demonstrated in your video

[@mcgritty8842]

Or get rid of coaches on the field. No other sport does this and it’s beyond comprehension why it would be necessary

[@adamsapples777]

@@mcgritty8842 I get why you’d want a coach at 3rd base, so they can tell a runner to hold up, slide or continue running home. Very difficult to see what’s going on behind you while you’re running full tilt etc, but a first base coach is unnecessary in my opinion. They just need to be more strict with enforcing the rule to stay within the chalked box.

[@chazcov08]

@@mcgritty8842 You are so 100% correct.

[@Nikillem]

@@mcgritty8842 clearly never played baseball

[@lemonscentedgames3641]

​@@mcgritty8842thats a never played baseball take, first base coach is fairly unnecessary but 3rd base coaches are extremely helpful

[@HVSJR-n5q]

YES. Enforce it for every team and every game.

[@blackjacktrial]

No. But because we should get rid of them, and make the baserunners make the decision. Too many damn coaches in baseball.

[@HVSJR-n5q]

@@blackjacktrial my point was to make everyone Everytime be the same ruling. As long as it’s the same. AL or NL.

[@user-rf2fv6tf1p]

@@blackjacktrialyou’ve never player baseball🤣

[@theplatypen1959]

​@@HVSJR-n5qagreed, plus the hard part for the batter is guessing the pitch. Kinda easy when the coach can tell you what it will be

[@JayDesrochers]

​@@blackjacktrial..lol..yeah and football has how many? A special team coach, an offensive line coach defensive line coach offensive coordinator defensive coordinator..etc..lol that was funny

[@Jivvi]

No. Should've been enforced all along, not just when someone requested it.

[@burgerking3763]

The one time the umpires weren't being completely stupid

[@yoitscashh6589]

453 likes and no comment let me just fix that

[@m2hmghb]

@@yoitscashh6589 No further elaboration was needed.

[@koatam]

A broken clock is is right twice a day and an umpire is right twice a year.

[@charlesmalmros1843]

Yes

[@critter2]

Say someone nickname from fast food restaurant

[@HeisenbergFam]

Someone made that box only for people to ignore it

[@Daveeeeeeyhowyoudoing]

Cry me a river

[@ericwollam5532]

bruh you're really tryin to be that dude that comments on EVERY video aren't you lol

[@chrishamilton1678]

hahahahaha🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@j----y]

And the on deck circle.

[@cattleslinger4888]

Hello brother

[@yeoluh]

Crazy how they yelled at each other for doing the exact thing that they did/ended up doing 😂 Hypocrisy at its finest

[@vipture.]

Fr, thought I was watching a political debate for sec

[@Kai_soze]

It was more like “you’re cheating so we’re going to cheat too”

[@mattorey5816]

It wasn’t hypocrisy, it was pettiness. They did it in retaliation.

[@Frezri69]

Its the US what do you expect? Smart people😅?

[@slick1976]

@@Frezri69 one of the teams is Canadian

[@juniorcosio2498]

It’s simple. Just stand in the dang box

[@RyanRediger66]

Damn right they need to stand in the box. It ain’t there for no reason

[@garymuhlenforth7251]

Actually some player's hit the so hard that the box puts a 50 60 year old man in danger of getting hit by a batted ball. That said they should be in the box if they are going to steal signs

[@jaronbrandes5054]

@@garymuhlenforth7251they took that risk when they signed the contract to be a coach

[@TheTaekwon3]

Well they haven't been doing it, after years now it's a problem should have been saying something

[@Keegan.999]

-👴🏻

[@billsedutto8824]

Exactly! If you’re not gonna enforce a rule get rid of it or in this case if you’re not gonna enforce the box get rid of it.

[@goatmode7317]

How ironic that the blue jays coach was calling someone a fat boy

[@lepermessiah9309]

Don't know tell us

[@tankeater]

Well, that would imply the other person being extremely fat... it's irony, in a putdown. Guess you're just too low on the IQ spectrum to understand the multi layered burn.

[@jeremyrafuse5330]

How is it ironic? You implying John Schneider is fat? 😂

[@imalogui]

@@jeremyrafuse5330 that’s what irony is

[@Lando-oz7hd]

@@jeremyrafuse5330 yea he’s a pretty fat dude, can’t have a beer belly and say you’re in shape or skinny

[@n8dizzlle]

Either enforce it or get rid of it.

[@MrDeath5300]

They gotta enforce it, this was a problem before, that's why the box was implemented

[@keithstanfield5491]

​@@MrDeath5300 agreed. It's an ability to cheat. Uphold it 💯% of the time, not just in high profile games. Like my argument a moment ago in another thread, the wrong teams may have made it to this point for this particular reason...

[@miniyodadude6604]

I mean, yeah, the batter should have to figure out the pitch on their own

[@twwtjohns]

I use to complain about this in my son's Summer College league. There were former MLB players coaching in this league doing the same thing. My son was pitching so I told him to use a random grip before going to the glove. It worked, they don't know what's coming if the pitcher doesn't get the grip until he goes to the glove.

[@PoohOnYourShoe]

I would use this to my advantage, like you said too. You wanna stand back there? Hit ‘em with the ole razzledazzle finger switch every pitch. Yep, this next ones for SURE is going to be a split seam fastball, SIKE change up 😂

[@dennismull147]

A super pitcher will actually tell you" Here it is try n hit it!

[@Lord_Vadr]

Or just tell your First base Coach to slim down a bit and they’ll have nothing to complain about!!! 😅

[@nicklazzaro5055]

@@dennismull147 they literally wont.

[@telly115ify]

That's we're it's supposed to be done anyway who changed that

[@user-qc3rj9sz2m]

That coach was thinking outside the box.

[@M3ndo2a18]

😂😂

[@Harper2.0]

I think it might’ve been a g not a t

[@TiestoCalvinHarris]

More countries should play baseball

[@meggastar1]

Well played, McFly.

[@imdeplorable2241]

Get in the box and STAY THERE. BOTH of you. It's been in the rule book for over 100 years. Enforce it.

[@legacydragon1719]

Aight gramps😂

[@NickNieves112]

No it wasn't. There hasn't been base coaches for half that long

[@jonadr5563]

Who are you to tell an MLB coach what to do, shut up and stay in your lane.

[@AvaRose00]

You stay in the box when they hit a missile at your head…

[@jeffj126]

Really? have you ever seen an umpire enforce the catches balk? Another part of the game that's been removed under the auspices of speeding up the game.

[@RAtMW88]

Its on the umps for not enforcing the rules. Same with all the new rules they had to make because the umps wouldn't enforce pace of play.

[@davej3781]

The umpires are instructed not to enforce the coach's box rule unless there's a complaint. That's what happened here

[@roberth2833]

I mean, you can't deny the side eye straight into a home run. That one is arguably the entire reason the rule is there.

[@StacheBigote]

I remember it vividly and he 100% stared at the dugout because they were chirping during his at bat and he didn’t like it. I challenge you to find a single other instance in his entire career where he looked over like that right before the pitch. Trust me, you won’t find one.

[@noahsomething7428]

@@StacheBigotenah, jays dugout is to his back. He was looking towards 1st base

[@StacheBigote]

@@noahsomething7428 Not the Jays dugout, his own dugout.

[@noahsomething7428]

@@StacheBigote so what his own team was chirping him?

[@StacheBigote]

@@noahsomething7428 No, his own team was chirping at the umpire while they were winning 6 to nothing and it annoyed him. He even said as much after the game. Said he took some guys aside and “said a couple things”.

[@cesaro5076]

Called the guy fat whilst being almost twice his size 😂

[@G_xx_]

For real 😂😂

[@MikeBrin96]

Murica

[@tristanbaxter4131]

Takes one to know one 😂

[@stewartgoodwin9488]

Takes one to know one

[@GabrielJames-ti3jf]

Toronto is in canada dummy

[@bestofburden]

“Shut up and let us cheat! 😤”

[@southpaw788]

Liberals/Democrats

[@juliestromberg1288]

fr

[@Huckleberry9921]

I guess the jays were cheating too.. along with every other team in baseball 💀

[@wookxii]

@@Huckleberry9921 if u ain’t cheating u ain’t trying I guess 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

[@Huckleberry9921]

@@wookxii Fr 😂

[@rooktheradical1]

Some guys just don't like a box....

[@GemEmerald-br3th]

It's like trying to keep Jack in the box 😅

Yeah, they are called blue jay fans.

[@sandratheprocraftinator945]

They feeling claustrophobic 🤣

[@mikeottersole]

That's thinking outside the box. Sorry, couldn't help myself.

[@scratchinmyhead5147]

NTTAWWT

[@tonymonxana992]

That’s freakin hilarious! They call them out for it then do it and get called out for it🤣

[@anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425]

Did they use it for the same reason? The video is misleading for clicks.

[@agonz162]

It’s on purpose to prove a point

[@CalebBlack92]

Reminds me of some people I’ve worked with. They’ll complain when someone does something & then will do the same thing.

[@vogelvogeltje]

Lmao reminds me of fundie Christians saying everything is pornography when their own holy book is filled to the brim with incest, child abuse, murder, r@pe, onanism,… etc etc, I could go on.

[@sitdowndusty]

Blue jays did it to spite the Yankees coach lol

[@jorgerivera8933]

You don’t call a guy that is lighter than you a “fat boy” 😂

[@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE]

I don’t know I’m tall and lean. There are guys that are like 5’8 and they just look fat to me like Josh Naylor So some of these guys might actually way less than me but I call them fat Also since the jerseys are tucked into the pants sometimes it’s hard to say exactly what they look like. I thought Verdugo was pretty fat because he has a fat face

[@HairMetalNation.]

I wonder who he was calling fat. Rojas is jacked & Chapman & Boone are both skinny.

[@almercpaul8523]

Yes you can. He just did.

[@godzuky2743]

pretty sure thats not "fat" pretty sure thats another Fa- word...

[@x--.]

Hey, takes one to know one. Yeah, you do.

[@geezymatt4975]

Its obviously teams trying to gain any advantage they can. The history of cheating in baseball is 10x deeper than any other sport, except maybe motorsports. A big part of the reason i love baseball so much is people seem to care about players breaking the unwritten rules than actually cheating by breaking the actual rules. Such a funny sport😂

[@djLagwayEnjoyer]

What’s even funnier is people only seem to care about certain ways that people cheat, and also who and what team is doing the cheating. Like people don’t really care that much if you cheat this way, but if you cheat that way, then all hell breaks loose and that player should be banned from baseball. Makes no damned sense lol cheating is cheating. Either enforce it and care about it the same way, or, let players cheat anyway they want. There is wayyyy too much of a grey area in baseball and I think it’s one of the reasons why it’s so damned hard for new fans to try and watch and enjoy baseball. Half the rules make no sense, and the other half are “unwritten” rules that arnt even technically rules!

[@astropeanut-cl6fi]

@@djLagwayEnjoyer so if someone rubs sweat on a ball and in another scenario another team sent drum signals to steal signs, effectively ruining the game, people should have the same opinions about both?

[@ck7802]

@@djLagwayEnjoyer it is the same in Motorsport. If the other teams are cheating it is a travesty and they need to be severely punished. If your team is cheating, they are brilliant and the other teams need to be smarter. It is just how things go.

[@victorsah-fc4br]

Hey f*** the Astros

[@kugashira1018]

What's the cheating in motorsports?

[@D1_Horns]

Bro had to shove those last words in there so before the 60 seconds was up💀

[@iami3rian394]

Rather obviously, yes, they should have to stay in the box. How do you think this is even a question?

[@piersonthorburn830]

its not even that they were out of the box, he was half way up the line

[@BigSho0ter]

cause hes looking for views

[@ck7802]

So the question is less, should they stay in the box, and more should the box even exist? I'll be honest here and state I don't watch baseball, and I'm fairly ignorant of most of the rules. That said, if a rule exists on the books it should be followed and enforced. If it doesn't make sense, it should be rewritten until it does, or removed. It makes sense to limit where the 3rd base coach can be, as evidenced by this video. Giving them free reign of the field give the batting team an advantage.

[@user-nj1zu2nf1x]

I guess you're new to baseball because I've never in my life seen any coached actually stand in the box

[@joeywtf7040]

@@user-nj1zu2nf1x you need to work on reading comprehension skills

[@aran8143]

The jays throwing an entire dugout wide tantrum only to do the same thing is the most jays thing of all time.

[@Sevo-]

As a jays fan... true lmao.

[@MrWesleyton]

The fact that you think where the yanks coach was standing is anywhere near where the yanks coach was.. tells me that you’re a Yank or an Astro. 😊

[@erikwebster1608]

@@MrWesleyton bro, if the jays are saying u have to be in the box then they should stick to their guns and follow the same rule. U can’t argue that he wasn’t in the box, he wasn’t. I’m a tigers/mariners fan so I got no dog in the fight, it’s just logic. Not to mention, the only thing u showed with ur comment is ur clearly a jays fan, otherwise u would be seeing the same thing everyone else does, a team getting mad about someone not following the rules then breaking the exact same rule. The guy I replied to never said they were standing in the same place, he said they were doing the same thing, as I’m not standing in the box

[@NJungen]

Blows my mind...

[@skulkid2886]

The Yankees acting like what they are doing is totally fine, then complaining when somebody does it to them is the most Yankees thing of all time.

[@MamaR9719]

Damn, MLB coaches be acting like our government officials

[@jordach545]

Except one government official wanted to nuke a hurricane and then changed it's trajectory on a paper map with a sharpie in order to trick his base.

[@ytsn_THE_OG]

​@@jordach545 That was made up by Biden

[@masonphillips8181]

@@jordach545 what are you on about?

[@kennethburmeister8119]

@@masonphillips8181 TDS, it's incurable.

[@Misha-dr9rh]

​@@masonphillips8181 trump actually did that

[@dcaseng]

I'm a Yankee fan, but i don't want to see coaches tipping off pitches to hitters. I never actually thought about that coaches box, but now i know why they don't want to be in there. Enforce the rules.

[@alexesortega4248]

Bro spoke at a set pace then realised he was running outta time at the end of the short lol

[@Manny-117]

That's hilarious

[@kalexander1981]

Bujuthinktheshulstayouttadabox???

[@Nashvillain10SE]

You made me rewatch the entire thing but it was worth it! 😂

[@michellecorbani6795]

No way bro yells at them for getting out of the line then goes out of the line 💀💀

[@Zmanath00]

It's common in baseball. Better for the coach to get thrown out than the player, or both.

[@jeremiahbachmann3901]

That was pretty dumb. If you want to call out someone, you better make sure you aren't doing it too.

[@JesusChrist42000]

​@@jeremiahbachmann3901I mean you can do it to prove a point or even provoke the other team. I don't understand you people who think you should play by the rules if your opponent is blatantly not. 😂 If the coach is stealing pitches then for damn sure I'd be doing the same, taste of your own medicine.

[@christiancrocker62]

The groundskeepers drawing the box knowing no one cares about it 😂

[@pullt]

Is easy to enforce. Warning, then ejection

[@WilliamSt.Clair1399]

The dumbest part is their own coaches weren’t doing it either.

[@markrobert6014]

Ya well the jays weren't sign stealing. Yanks were.

[@WilliamSt.Clair1399]

@@markrobert6014 1. The jays pitcher even said he was tipping. 2. So long as it isn’t technology based every single team will respect it even if they’ll also equally try to end it immediately. 3. The whole point of the initial argument is if they think the “cheating” is the coach being out of the box you damn sure need to be in the box yourself…

[@Heavywall70]

Pitcher can’t change his grip inside the glove? It could be used both ways, Go ahead look, and hope I’m still on the seam when I wind up. Hell, I’d Candiotti the ball until I wound up if I knew a coach would look

[@cmac6136]

​@@WilliamSt.Clair1399the reason why the jays did it is so the umpire would actually do something about it. If the jays didnt do anything the yankees would have done the same thing next inning.

[@WilliamSt.Clair1399]

@@cmac6136 Oh, so you just don’t watch baseball. That’s fine, just don’t comment acting like you do man!

[@aureliovazquez1058]

Nah big dude really had the balls to call someone else fat boy😂

[@boydmccollum692]

fat boys can call others fat boy. They know what they are talking about lol

[@bangbangnin9ergang808]

😂😂😂😂 its like black people calling each other ni__a which is pretty dumb to me never understood that. Guys can call each other bitch and cunt but not to women which is cool I get that. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@glockfanboy4635]

Its like the n word, but for fat guys. 😂

[@axil157]

He just big boned

[@Nickkerrsayitfast]

@@boydmccollum692 but who on the Yankees is fat tho😂

[@LovinMusic1965]

5.03 Base Coaches (a) The team at bat shall station two base coaches on the field during its time at bat, one near first base and one near third base. (b) Base coaches shall be limited to two in number and shall be in team uniform. (c) Base coaches must remain within the coach’s box consistent with this Rule, except that a coach who has a play at his base may leave the coach’s box to signal the player to slide, advance or return to a base if the coach does not interfere with the play in any manner. Other than exchanging equipment, all base coaches shall refrain from physically touching base runners, especially when signs are being given. PENALTY: If a coach has positioned himself closer to home plate than the coach’s box or closer to fair territory than the coach’s box before a batted ball passes the coach, the umpire shall, upon complaint by the opposing manager, strictly enforce the rule. The umpire shall warn the coach and instruct him to return to the box. If the coach does not return to the box he shall be removed from the game. In addition, coaches who violate this Rule may be subject to discipline by the League President.

[@kellysmith3628]

You were the only one who was smart enough to pull up the rule.Someone should go through film and see how long it took them to finally catch it.

[@RealLifeFinance]

Nice work!

[@uglycasanova4240]

No confusion with that Rule..

[@Jivvi]

That kind of makes it sound like both base coaches _must_ be there, even when no one is on base.

[@KratosAurionPlays]

I mean if the box is there for a reason and the rule says they have to be in the box... then yes it should be enforced.

[@beholdiamglamdringsbane89]

It has to be enforced. Otherwise coaches can stand pretty much anywhere. Baseball is so stupid. Cheating and call stealing is rampant yet those involved get so upset over an infraction around one of the myriad of unwritten rules.

[@nicklazzaro5055]

Sport killed itself with this. Watch the World Baseball Classic... the crowds and teams are having a great time.... singing, dancing... Then ya watch the MLB games and its like watching paint dry and theres zero enjoyment. Unwritten rules dont allow the players to have fun... if they do have fun, theyre pegged by a 100 mph fastball between the numbers.

[@johnb2905]

@@nicklazzaro5055 You OBVIOUSLY don't know baseball and you are showing it . Games because the league realized the that the game needed speeding up . AND THE DID SOMETHING THAT WORKED . Go watch some China supporters Basketball ...

[@nicklazzaro5055]

@@johnb2905 nothing you just said even made a bit of sense John. But thanks for your input. I played DII college baseball. Im sure i dont know anything at all.

[@carlfrye1566]

​@@nicklazzaro5055 The pitch clock has cut game time a lot and the game action is much faster, game times much shorter. I have watched several games this season and it's refreshing to not see batters adjusting all of their pads and gloves between each pitch, or a pitcher staring until a batter steps out. If MLB would just enforce the coaches box or enlarge it this kind of BS would disappear. I am really curious to see how the automatic umpire(balls and strikes) would work.

[@r.d.mahaffey453]

See, Astros weren't the only ones play stealing. They all do it!

[@DavidTOBerry]

Make them stand in the box. It is there for a reason. Cheating takes all forms and that is why these boxes exist to mitigate some of those issues.

[@coleswanginshenanigans867]

I mean watching pitches and pitch numbers isn't illegal and neither is relaying to your team😂 not their fault the jays can't hide their pitches

[@E_alvarad0]

​@@coleswanginshenanigans867 well that's why the box is there. So that the coaches don't have as great of a view of the pitchers grip or catchers call Using tipped information on pitches is different than trying to see signs

[@ezragatton5431]

@@E_alvarad0 trying to see signs isn’t illegal either. That’s the whole reason they use sequences. And the pitcher should never grip his pitch behind his back anyway. That itself is a tip

[@E_alvarad0]

@@ezragatton5431 trying to steal signs isn't illegal if even batters on 2nd are tipping to the hitter. A coach could solely focus on tipping pitches if he has an advantage of an angle. That's what the boxes are for But if a player is grabbing signs and tipping them you better believe someone on the team is getting a fast ball high and tight

[@jyesucevitz]

was your final question really: "... should the rules be enforced?"

[@cs1458]

I've been going to games for 35 years and I never knew that box existed.

[@MrUrmother22]

John Schneider needs to look in the mirror before calling anyone fat...

[@SArmagh681]

This 😂 I thought I was the only seeing it

[@kuulkris]

Hah! Hilarious.

[@matthewparker235]

I think he called him F@&k boy

[@lukelyons8716]

​@@matthewparker235 Yep

[@MrUrmother22]

@@lukelyons8716 maybe, but he is just as big of a fuck boy as Boone lol

[@mariofanalex4455]

Him rushing at the end so he can say what he had to say before the he reached the minute limit was too funny lol

[@boyranders]

butyouthinkcoachesshouldactuallybeforcedtostayinthebox?

[@Baugh18]

Seems like an easy rule to follow

[@mariologuidice2109]

Wasn’t judge looking to the side like that last year and the camera caught him doing that? Lol

[@chrisdaigle5410]

YES! As a sports photographer I get blocked out by coaches moving out of the spot all the time.

[@spooge33]

When I was coaching 16U, I would nervously pace the first base line when my son was up. One game, he gets a triple with a nice slide into third. A photographer then yelled to me that if I had stayed in the box, he would have gotten the shot. I honestly felt bad for both of us.

[@PeopleRTellingme]

@@spooge33”a photographer” aka another parent 😂.

[@johnvaughan8239]

lol that is the least important reason for anything that I have ever heard 😂😂😂. For the sake of a photographer??!!?! How about to prevent cheating??

[@BrentMalice]

RUSH THE FIELD

[@spooge33]

@PeopleRTellingme Actually was a legit photographer. But I get it.

[@Stepbro17]

“Fat boy” Damn bro really ended his career with that one

[@thuggensoldier]

He was fatter than the yaknees coach tf 😂😂😂 aint end nobodies career but his own

[@bombproductions7768]

Bro was fatter than him so he shouldn’t be talking

[@mario36s]

It ended WW2

[@GuitarxWolf]

@@mario36s You sir, win the internet for the next 15 minutes

[@Laidback_616]

Guy was in great shape to be 50 quite honestly.

[@anthonypetercoleman339]

Grown men getting paid millions of dollars to yell at each other and act like middle schoolers. Yeah.

[@123tl]

Are you talking about baseball or politicians

[@pakkmann]

they only act like middle schoolers because they haven't seen the horrors of Grenada Anthony... if they had... they'd agree with you

[@drumusic5665]

If this is what you are concerned about you missed the plot

[@annagraham6204]

They are 100% paid to ACT. The entire league. From top to bottom.

[@hjr228]

Getting paid a lot of money doesn't stop humans from being human.

[@RememberMe123-b4b]

Getting a little off topic, why aren't golfers allowed to tee the ball up anywhere on the golf course...I'm glad you brought this up.

[@SamAndMaggie1]

That end is so funny where you had to speed it up bc you almost ran out of time lol

[@gshak33]

They should enforce it. A rule is a rule.

[@russw5605]

nerd

[@gshak33]

@@russw5605 😂

[@RubyXIII]

or get rid of it clearly they didn’t give a fuck about the rule why does it exist

[@HeyItzCayden]

If they don't enforce it, sure try to get a better view. This isn't just a game for these teams, its a job.

[@asdfasdf969]

In the south we call that "monkeyball"

[@HeyItzCayden]

@@asdfasdf969 hello brother

[@akaredcrossbow]

If you cheat at a job you get fired.

[@HeyItzCayden]

@@akaredcrossbow not exactly

[@akaredcrossbow]

@@HeyItzCayden you know what I mean! If you’re caught cheating you should be warned, suspended, or even fired.

[@Methoes123]

Spend all that money and they still have to CHEAT! What a DISGRACE! They should be sanctioned, removed, and fined!

[@TK0_23_]

They don't have to cheat. And stealing signs is not cheating. I've been a big baseball fan for 60 years. Everyone knows the coaches are "supposed" to stay in the box, but everyone accepts the fact that coaches never do. So it's not enforced because everyone benefits from it not being enforced. The Jays got burned and started crying about it. The solution is for the pitcher not to show what he's goung to throw. It's the pitchers fault. And the Jays stomped their feet and said, "not fair" Like a child.

[@markdaniels7174]

You make it sound as if only the Yankees are doing it. As the video makes clear, *everyone* does it, but heretofore the umps didn’t really enforce the rule. Either get rid of the rule or enforce it, equally.

[@TK0_23_]

@@markdaniels7174 I did not make it sound like only the Yankees are doing it. I said, "it's not enforced because everyone benefits from it not being enforced". The rule is there so when a coach is abusing the rule and using it for something other than what is considered acceptable, the coach can be punished. Toronto tried to use the rule against the Yankees for doing something that harmed the Jays, but was perfectly acceptable behavior. Reading a flaw in the pitchers delivery. As I said, it was the pitchers error, not the Yankee coach.

[@877cashnowszn]

It's only okay if the yankees do it, any other team and it's cheating. Lmfao.

[@Methoes123]

@877cashnowszn : Absolutely NOT! Any team that gets caught cheating . Even my O's!

[@redphantom2104]

Well.. whenever I had a team complain about it I reminded the coach under my breath: "If you want me to enforce it on them, I will have to enforce it on your team as well. Do you really want this? Yes or No?"

[@Kevinschart]

why are coaches enforcing the rules? that's what the referees a for. dumb sport.

[@carlfrye1566]

​@@Kevinschart While watching games sometimes a runner comes around 2nd and doesn't see the 3rd base coaches signs, I have to think if the coach stayed in the box instead of getting all excited and animated drifting too far out of it they would more easily see him....lol!

[@Gumby-vx7ki]

Way to gaslight the other coach, coach.

[@nathanfolkemer8392]

Fights over base coaches. MLB, never stop being awesome. Seriously. This is beautiful.

[@shellshockedbros4458]

The only "awesome" part about baseball is when anything other than baseball happens.

[@blickedxb]

​@@shellshockedbros4458thanks for letting us know you get picked last.

[@mixedvibes9613]

​@@blickedxbno actually. Its just such a shit sport. I remember (hardly) one time my dad took me and my older brother to see a diamondbacks game (from Arizona)i dont remember any of that shit i think we left early. God its so boring

[@TheHeadincharge]

@@blickedxbI mean, I’m kinda with him… don’t get all sensitive about it

[@blickedxb]

@mixedvibes9613 Again thanks for letting us know you got picked last. Let me guess you love low iq football though..

[@clementello]

Now that's thinking outside the box!

[@ErLc_GamingYT]

Lol

[@PeaceUpH-Town]

Underrated comment

[@jaysonscott187]

Damnit

[@kjsdpgijn]

Bbboooooooo

[@GregRallo-wf1mv]

THERE IS A BOX FOR A REASON

[@coltonblake13]

Im in agreement that i forgot the box even existed. It seems like a legitimate rule for a legitimate reason. I'm for enforcement of it. If not, abolish it. So long as its there it should be universal enforced

[@paulkarp958]

If you abolish it you endorse cheating.. oh wait, they already have! Aka Astros fans 😂

[@coltonblake13]

@@paulkarp958 I havent watched in years. Havent been to a game in probably over 15yrs. Im just saying if the rule is ignored most of the time, it should be gone. I'm all for enforcement of it, seems like a very logical fix to potential cheating. Though.. if you're not cheating, you're not trying. I do still watch all the patriots games lol

[@angrytater2456]

The big deal wasn't the fact he was outside the box. The big deal was stealing pitches and giving them to the hitter.

[@leebegaming4130]

They are there for that reason exactly, to stand in. As a umpire I constantly had to put overstepping coaches back into their boxes during play. At a professional level the umpires shouldn’t have to be baby sitters and you shouldn’t be cheating. Stay in the box.

[@305dade8a]

Ouch!😂

[@karlepaul6632]

They should play AIC song "Man in the Box" on the PA whenever the coach is out of the box as a subtle reminder to get back in it😆

[@BeReal918]

I played baseball for most of my life. Was a pitcher at the college level before getting hurt. I NEVER gripped my "pitch" _in the stretch_ behind my back. I'd just grip it in a 4-seam in case I had to throw to 1st (pick-off) & when I came "set", I'd adjust my grip _in my glove_ so no one would see my *real* grip. I thought every pitcher knew that? 🤷‍♂️

[@jefflebowski3784]

That was my thought exactly

[@srcastic8764]

In or out, just make sure both teams are enforced equally. Fairness. The easiest way to make sure that happens is to follow the rules as written, so in. It was really f’n stupid of the Jays to call out the Yankees about being out of the box then turn right around and do the same damn thing. Genius strategy guys. 🙄🙄🤦‍♂️

[@makaizo]

Arlon's side eye was just hilarious.

[@user-xu3ii7dy7l]

cheater

[@steve99098]

Ooops, caught red eyed.

[@Thejaxx4290]

@@user-xu3ii7dy7lhe was looking at the dugout. If your talking about aaron judge hitting a BOMB

[@johnpatton7533]

@@Thejaxx4290 sure buddy

[@Thejaxx4290]

@@johnpatton7533 look it up everyone knows he looked at the dugout

[@harmonizewithme]

Didn’t spying on pitch calls get Astros in trouble? I think that’s a valid reason to enforce.

[@ronaldpetrovich]

You can spy on pitches. The Astros did it electronically which is gianst the rules. Sign stealing hs been part of the game since before Babe Ruth. If a pitcher is tipping his pitches the runner on second will relay that to the coaches who will relay thta to the batter. That's why a pitcher and catcher will change signs during the game. Its the way the Astros did it that was wrong.

[@jacksonscr8]

Absolutely should be legal. Surprising this wasn’t fixed 100 years ago!

[@alexanderlittle358]

The irony of calling out the other team then proceeding to do that exact same thing the next day

[@Tit-Dirt]

Calling another grown man fat boy is a top tier power move.

[@mikescorpio13]

well when he is fat,why not....softy

[@Jensen-C]

Especially when the one calling him fat is also fat 😂

[@2nd-place]

The sped up ending on this is when you’re trying to finish a sentence on one line and have to squish it in at the end.

[@nathanhastings8442]

I see people saying it. If the box doesn't matter why is it there? Stay in the box. Now was it there to prevent then from seeing pitch selection, etc. I don't think so and I'm certain they can get it in other ways. Feels more like they just need a line so they don't come too close to the baseline. The boundary uo and down the field seems less meaningful.

[@Truckerdaddy]

Here's a thought tell your pitcher to not grip the ball behind his ass. That's what a glove is for. Conceal it then throw it.

[@laker09champ72]

Seriously! Considering how meticulous teams try to gain an advantage of one another, holding the grip out for everyone to see is a big no no. 😂😂.

[@Truckerdaddy]

@laker09champ yeah that's some Busch league type stuff.

[@donarthiazi2443]

​@@Truckerdaddy 😂😂 *"Busch"* League 😂😂😂

[@squigtonianmayhem4602]

But, the whiners have less to cry about.

[@squirrelydan3]

Whatever grip takes the longest to establish in their hand is usually what they put behind their back everytime, even if they don't end up throwing that pitch. So it shouldn't give away their next pitch.

[@wowenbhoen]

Damn this was a great series. both teams just at each other's throats. so much tension haha.

[@Da_Publick]

You can go back to the Christy Matthewson days, there used to be bench clearing brawls over this kind of stuff. Somewhere down the line, officials stopped enforcing it.

[@chrisredfield6274]

I LOVE the pettiness of baseball sometimes

[@KenshinPlayz57]

Funny how the Blue Jays coach was even farther away from the box

[@matthewspringer242]

Purposeful

[@mikehackenschmidt8765]

The most exciting moment of the entire game

[@camerongrondzki2716]

As someone who doesn't watch sports this gives me the vibes of playing someone in a card game and having a buddy stand behind him to tell you what cards he has

[@traviss9059]

If the guy you are playing against holds his cards up off the table like a 7 year old yes. Pitchers are supposed to hide their grip in their glove until they are in the wind up. If they aren't it's called tipping and any decent team with a runner on base will see the pitcher's ball hand and sign to the batter.

[@vicO1323]

If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin': Joe Montana

[@zanerthecraner]

So that’s where judge looked

[@yankees2864]

Nothing wrong with it, Manoah tipped. Also Judge has been on an unreal pace since that series, so there go the cheating allegations.

[@Leo-be6rh]

​@Poppycock it's really not cheating bro was tipping they got an advantage as simple as that this has been a thing for years now 😂

[@LockheedF22Raptor]

@Poppycock I’m guessing you’ve never played baseball? 😂

[@tim8801]

@Poppycock not cheating monoah and the catcher where tipping the pitches sucks for them

[@stevenlaporta2507]

​@Poppycock you don't know ball

[@godlikecharacta9294]

Does this explain the 9 hrs he hit after?

[@Richard-du7yj]

HR's. Took me far too long to realize what you meant. My dim-witted-ness.

[@handldyDandidlyD.ezzzzz]

yo the last part spoken mad fast was hilarious

[@TheGoodChap]

Its like he realised he had only one second left for his short lol

[@Vlabar]

I went to an MLB game is week for the first time in years. The base coach was ten feet outside the lines the whole game.

[@Dankauff]

Same thing in soccer. When I’m reffing a game, coaches have to stay inside what’s called “the technical area”. Just basically the area immediately around the beach. They are not allowed to leave that box without permission from the Center Ref. I’ve started cracking down on it because if a coach is acting inappropriately. ie swearing, yelling, things like that, it’s normally a burble warning or a yellow card for his behavior. But if they come out of the technical area and do that it’s an immediate send off. Soccer refs are so hard to find because they keep quitting due to verbal abuse. My sister reffed for a year but quit after players and coaches started catcalling her. There are a lot of rules that people don’t realize exist. It’s the coaches job to know what is going on. It’s honestly funny sometimes when they get mad when we blow the whistle before they even know what is happening. Older age groups for youth soccer, typically U15+, we let them play unless there is a serious injury, like a head injury, even if they don’t stay down we are supposed to stop the game to make sure they are ok. Just don’t yell at the refs. Mainly in Youth games.

[@BlackRabbitt92]

That man had no business callin anybody fatboy

[@mattbaxter7773]

It stings more when a fellow fatty calls you out.

[@kevinlajoie2966]

Schneider is a beast. It's muscle. Buy a clue

[@baritonebroker]

Like Trump and Christie trading insults!

[@ChuckFarlieSeesAll]

“If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying.” - Baseball proverb.

[@bwtayl7348]

I agree with that and I play

[@DMETS519]

"If you're not cheating, you're not a yankee."

[@theholymackerel072]

That’s an Astros proverb.

[@bwtayl7348]

I love the Astros

[@Richard-du7yj]

​@@DMETS519 you are referring to the Astros who got caught cheating. Altuve should have been checked for the buzzer as soon as they saw him hit that HR off of Chapman and didn't let his teammates rip his shirt off. That would have revealed a buzzer they used to cheat. Also he should have has is MVP revoked and their WORLD SERIES TITLE. Facts

[@Pallethands]

its always annoyed me that they dont stay in the frickin box

[@Idkwhattoput26]

More impressed that the coach is so experienced that he identified what kind of pitch the pitcher was going to throw by his hand position from 50 feet away.

[@Thejaxx4290]

Good point

[@32-bitwolf10]

Grip... different grip for different pitches. You watch the grip see what pitch was thrown throughout at bats them couple innings in you watch his grip and communicate it to the batter.

[@rhull3939]

That's actually super simple. I can tell you've never thrown at least a curve ball.

[@Idkwhattoput26]

@@rhull3939 Okay, what's your point exactly? You worded this in a way that feels like you're trying to insult me for some reason.

[@rhull3939]

@@Idkwhattoput26 my point is you shouldn't comment on something you've never done. Because most of the time it won't make sense. Just search images of pitch grips and you'll see what I mean. They're all very different in the way you position your fingers. It's easy to tell.

[@Jetmech1781]

The rule is the rule. If you selectively enforce any, you can't enforce any.

[@davidgaston7334]

Cool guess players can't interact with the other team or fans anymore cuz that's against the rules .

[@politicalfisherman540]

​@@davidgaston7334 change the rules

[@bobhanson1037]

​@@politicalfisherman540 or stop being annoying rule following nerds and fight fire with fire.

[@politicalfisherman540]

@@bobhanson1037 actually I agree, problem is the inconsistent one sided calls.

[@Eyeswideopen251]

If they can prove the coach was cheating and looking at the pitcher they should be fined heavily

[@erictrexler126]

stealing signs isn't illegal

[@mech0p]

first they have to determine what those signs are and which ball they correlate to. If they can do that its free game to relay those signs. As long as both teams have the option to do this there should be no issue with it,

[@MagicManICT]

@@erictrexler126 No, but if you can know what pitch is coming before its thrown, does that give an unfair advantage? The whole point of the boxes is to keep the coaches from interfering in the game, aka a "10th man" on the field. I've seen it enforced in little league games more than a few times, sometimes by tossing the parent-coach out.

[@civil_leuthie]

Never been illegal for players and coaches on the field and in the dugout to get information from the field and relay it to players. Never has been, never should be. It isn't cheating. It isn't an unfair advantage. Don't tip your pitches, obfuscate your signs, and hit batters or complain about where the coaches are standing if you have to.

[@civil_leuthie]

@@MagicManICT The box is intended for interference issues when the ball is in play. If a ball hits the coach and the coach is in the box, the ball is in play. If the coach is out of the box, the coach is interfering with the play and the ball is dead. It's not for sign stealing issues.

[@hotzauhse]

He really called him a fat boy? 🤦🏻 Wow what an insult to a person who isn't even fat.