Should “Transgender Women” Be Allowed to Compete in Women’s Sports?

[@surjackeroff]

Respect for keeping the comments open.

[@sneddy__9225]

like half their channel if spreading stories about free speech so if they ever turned off comments then they'd get flamed

[@luvsdecor5973]

KZbin is removing likes and comments that are Pro women’s rights.

[@mememologies7363]

@@luvsdecor5973 so does that mean you see women as walking vaginas Which is exactly what misogyny is

[@luvsdecor5973]

Mememologies Nope. That’s precisely what women don’t want: to be reduced to,and identified by, body parts. Women are born not worn.

[@No-hf1xq]

@@luvsdecor5973 well guess how they decide who is a woman who is a man at birth. You still believe women are their body parts just say it more elaborately.

[@handicrap]

The fact that this is even a debate is quite simply, laughable.

[@kelvinfernandez4058]

no is not. This is what equality is.

[@Stillcantthinkofaname]

@@kelvinfernandez4058 Lol CIRCUS AMERICA

[@handicrap]

@@kelvinfernandez4058 more laughs, look at the differences between male and female biology based in science, not feeling. The reason we're in so much trouble is because of feelings, they're there to be used-- and males smashing womens heads in MMA for instance, is wrong.

[@kelvinfernandez4058]

@@handicrap no its because equality man and woman are equal under the law. sorry you can't pick and choose where you want equality to apply.

[@kelvinfernandez4058]

@@Saintrobian they won't compete with real men because they identify as female under the law they're allow to identify as female

[@appeldenlim6463]

I mean if they really dont want the unfairness in this , they can just start a trans nba like how they start a national wheelchair basketball association

[@baddust7187]

or just have them compete with there biological genders if thats not possible

[@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA]

But they would cheat like they did!!!! -JACK

[@ZACHANDJACKSZACHSMAFIA]

Get it cheat like the one wheelchair NBA did, they weren't handicapped and neither are transwomen in women's sports... ... -JACK

[@milkz101]

problem is, they don't want to, at least those who have been winning the most in women sports

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Is it in poor taste to be "able bodied" and identify as a wheelchair bound athlete? 🤔🤷🏽‍♀️

[@emmettdocbrown318]

Why can’t they just make a league for trans people?

[@emmettdocbrown318]

@@stephaniesvec results say otherwise like men being mediocre in their sports then dominates in the female sport after their transition. In treatment, sure their bone density and muscle mass is less but it is still higher than ciswoman,a transgender female will still have a bigger heart and more red blood cells. Trans female will still have 25% more muscle mass and bone density than a ciswoman . There body structures will not change either. If you want to transwomen to play with ciswoman than you have to basically undo puberty which is basically impossible.

[@sailormoon9885]

@@stephaniesvec There is absolutely a damn reason to do so. You clearly didn't listen to the video.

[@jaydenjbryant8665]

Why can’t people just identify as the gender they were born as like I just don’t get it

[@enio9477]

Because it's literally called segregation lmao

[@sailormoon9885]

@@enio9477 There is nothing fair about males racing against females. It is why there was a segregation/division in the sports in the first place. Let's take notes from that transwoman boxer who smashed in that females facial bones with one punch to the face 👀👀👀. But trans women are just regular women though.

[@camiscloset2369]

I support everyone's way of life. Live and let live, however, it CANNOT infringe on other's lives. This is wrong. Let transgenders compete against their own. Have transgender teams.

[@noelstar1456]

THANK YOU!

[@youtubedeletedmyaccountlma2263]

clear plastic then let it be 2

[@coraliensb]

@clear plastic but it’s not fair for the others if trans compete with them (biological)

[@livi-m6g]

@clear plastic that sounds like there problem Life isn’t fair and we were all taught that a very young age not everything can be equal but we can all try our hardest to make things equal not everybody can do the things another person can do and this is just one of them I don’t have a problem with somebody living their life as they choose but when it affects me or my friends and family that’s when I have an issue not everything is equal and fair in this world needs to except that

[@livi-m6g]

@clear plastic I see your point and where your going with this at the same time tho we were all fought from a young age that life isn’t fair and sometimes there’s thing that we can’t have and does it suck of course you just have to look at it this way our whole argument fighting for our lgbtq rights was we can’t control we love and if it doesn’t affect your life then why do you care if a trans women is joining the sport they automatically get the advantages a cis man would if he was playing against these same girls see now it is affecting someone’s life and that’s not right cuz some people there entire life is sports that’s why steroids are banned from sports because it’s a unfair advantage

[@brianmonroe488]

I used to be into bodybuilding. I trained every day and was a solid 250 between 2013-2015. I stopped going to the gym and my Testosterone Score was 28 ng/dL between the beginning of 2016 through mid 2020. Despite not having a normal, minimal Test Score of 300 ng/dL and not working out for over 3 years, I retained over 60% of the muscle gained during those 2.5 years. Biological males have an advantage over biological females regardless of hormone treatment.

[@YellowCitruslmn]

Do you know what hormone treatmeant does? Yk you transition with more than just E right? Yk theyre t score is significantly lower than youres and makes it increasingly harder to get to your level? Yk girls can also get incredibly strong and buff even more so than guys but its just hard? Yk theres research out there.

[@YellowCitruslmn]

@Peter Jordan bitch because deadass because hes right bio males do but when you change how their able to workout like fully transitioning beyong just taking E because thats ONE part of transitioning it might SHOCKINGLY change their outcome, crazy ik 😱

[@jitney1]

@@YellowCitruslmn fr

[@Jamie-yf4zt]

​@Peter Jordan yes it has been studied AND DISPROVEN

[@DarkCrystal777]

​@@YellowCitruslmn Show the research.. (yk??) 🙄

[@lianwirring7476]

Biology doesn't care about your feelings, that's it.

[@worldiscold936]

BASED

[@collotdeschenes2332]

Estrogen when taken long enough will actually change your muscle mass and build so it might not be fair for a little bit but eventually will be fair but never the less we have to respect each other and our opinions and arguing about it won’t change our options

[@bigbird4481]

@@collotdeschenes2332 it's not going to change lung size, heart size, bone density, height, weight. That alone is enough to keep genders from being in the same league.

[@acegikm]

They started off talking about restrooms, which seemed like the least threatening move for transwomen. Of course it was never meant to end there. Now we're supposed to let them into women's shelters and women's jails, too.

[@bjorn1900]

but I do :) I love you, and stay safe this year everyone! 😊

[@crystalblackburn5478]

It’s not fair. That doesn’t mean that I am transphobic. There should be another category added.

[@kiwo579]

What so the 2 trans people in connecticut can duel it out? Racing is about times not placing

[@aoifeig4859]

@@iminswagony5613 idk how to explain this to you but i’m going to try using what my english teacher once taught me about racism. i completely agree that biological women can be just as fast and strong as biological men. however, it’s not as easy. men are born naturally stronger and faster than women (it’s to do with the hormones and bones). if there was only one race with both biological men and women, yes it would be equal but it would be like men get a head start. it would be equal but not fair.

[@Diabolical3010]

@@aoifeig4859 most biological women can never be as strong as most biological men. Please don't delude yourself

[@yesuschrist8255]

No. Trans women should instead be on hormone therapy for more than 2 or 3 years before competing against biological females. The trans women in women’s sports right now have only been on hormone therapy for a year and that’s why it’s unfair. Though, on some sports trans women in your team shouldn’t be a worry (like figure skating and dance).

[@dorothyrajagukguk]

@@aoifeig4859 yupp

[@mememanbehindtheshadows546]

It's easy to fool people when they're already fooling themselves - mysterio

[@Dop3tv202]

Deep bro no cap

[@swaet8671]

Disheartening for the girls who trained so hard just to get cheated out of the races that matter 💔

[@potsandpans7989]

That show sports work you wet donuts

[@swaet8671]

@@potsandpans7989 it show biological men have an unfair advantage over biological women you bellend

[@intention21]

Funny how women have caused this to happen though. They fought to have trans athletes go against women. So focus on women to make the change

[@woahmannchill]

Nah fam they just trynna hussle

[@TaliLovesFrogs]

@@swaet8671 technically they have no disadvantage, some men are faster than woman and even if the guys are trans they're still the same. So biological woman are not cheated out by trans woman, the woman that sign up who yes are biological men most likely sign up because they believe they're fast enough to win, but there is no proof they're cheating. A lot of biological woman have won over trans woman so it is very equal.

[@KC-ep3ov]

She raises a valid concern. It's not disrespectful for pointing it out.

[@vinny_verticallychallenged9671]

it's not valid it's transphobic

[@KC-ep3ov]

@@vinny_verticallychallenged9671 Depends on context. But in this context no. The fact is that our society has not made an acceptable space for transgendered people. Instead everyone tries to squeeze them into spaces that are not conducive or feasible. Cis women usually take the brunt when it comes to athletics and having to compete against a MTF who has fully developed into adulthood with male anatomy (power/speed). It's oppressive toward cis women that, yet again, they don't have any space for themselves.Cis men don't have to worry about a FTM competing against them or winning all the trophies because most FTMs do not have the same strength or speed to out run them, where as MTF can out power and out run cis women nearly every time. People are not actually being considerate and inclusive of MTF people by squeezing them into cis women's spaces without giving the strength/power differences much thought. That is still using a traditional two-gendered model. It doesn't create space for other genders in society and is inconsiderate of both cis women and MTFs. It also perpetuates the inequality that cis women have faced for thousands of years. It's time for all women to take charge and everyone needs to rethink their idea of inclusion.

[@ThoseWhoKnowBalkan]

@@vinny_verticallychallenged9671 this video is factual though

[@nilswedman9818]

@@vinny_verticallychallenged9671 she didn't say anything bad about transgender people

[@lunar58071]

@@nilswedman9818 She called trans women men a couple of times :/

[@SIRana-yx9pq]

Equity and equality is not the same thing. That's why, speak up girls.

[@pancake-zw2qc]

@Lemon yes trans people should have the chance to compete with trans people

[@epictetushasepictiddiez2615]

Ive always preached this! Make 2 new divisions for trans men and women!

[@potsandpans7989]

@@pancake-zw2qc there probably aren’t enough trans people to have a whole Trans team it also treats trans women as different or alienates them It also purposely puts trans people who just wanna be seen as women

[@cataclysmicat9551]

@@potsandpans7989 it only alienates them if you let it, really. I don’t see the issue if it’s discouraging biological female track athletes from developing. Setting the standard well beyond what a biological female is capable of is too much of an unfair advantage to be left as is. I think people just need to suck up the facts and move on, we aren’t going to do everything for you just cuz ur trans.

[@ebullience8838]

Great comment

[@NAprincess324]

I support biological women!!!

[@user-pk3bn1pu6s]

Biological women support trans women!

[@cleolikesguitar]

I support all women

[@anahitaharati605]

@@cleolikesguitar aka biological women.

[@NAprincess324]

@@user-pk3bn1pu6s you can speak for yourself on that one. I will defend a trans woman in need of basic human rights but not for this one

[@cleolikesguitar]

@@anahitaharati605 no, all women, whether they were born women naturally or not. coming from someone who was born female. my right to have my opinion

[@shadedlady4273]

Just give them their OWN track teams, to compete against each other. It's that simple. No intolerance there, but the biology is respected as well.

[@No-hf1xq]

You realise that for most schools it'd mean like, one athlete and that's all. "My high school won the county's trans women's basketball tournament despite only having 3 people in the entire team, one never having played the game before. All other schools couldn't bring more than one trans girls to play in their team"

[@luvsdecor5973]

@Caleb Murdock Yes, Caleb. It's the Incel and TRA woman-hating babies at KZbin. They are removing Likes and comments supportive of Girls.

[@bobbytackett5233]

Appears cal

[@jo423456]

@Aidan Donohue Spot a misogynist.

[@starlenajordan288]

@@No-hf1xq exactly so instead of destroying real woman’s dreams and ruining female sports in general just because you couldn’t hack it as a man is selfish. Why should real woman have to step aside while fake “girls “steal what is rightfully theirs.

[@stitchfx5901]

Finally someone who said it. Beliefs don’t change biology.

[@YellowCitruslmn]

But surgery and taking T most certainly can! Learn to do research💁

[@consciouspresence5880]

@@YellowCitruslmn No r3tard you cannot change gend er

[@YellowCitruslmn]

@@consciouspresence5880 what a greatly misinformed soul. Sex is your body right? We learned this in 5th grade champ. Gender is a socail construct and your mind 🤗

[@consciouspresence5880]

@@YellowCitruslmn your logic, “hurr durr, if you in inject poison and mutilate someone’s body they will magically changer gender.”

[@YellowCitruslmn]

@@consciouspresence5880 youre logic isnt logic because theres a logical seperation between SEX and GENDER. You clearly see no difference which is already telling to your knowledge on the matter as gender is a socail comcept and is complex and flexabile and has multiple scientific factual studies done on it-im guessing youve never seen them though as you only care about your side. Choose knowledge over feelings 🫶

[@cheshirekat3050]

It's like telling a team of little leaguers that their next game will be against the New York Yankees, and that they are "bad sports" if they object.

[@fishy492]

Not exactly... Trans women have to take hormones that have a large impact on the exact things that give them an advantage. Maybe if the little league players were hopped up on steroids, these things might be comparable. Then again, the Yankees would have more experience in the sport than the little league. Basically, your analogy is not good.

[@brianna4657]

@@fishy492 The lungs, the heart and the bones of a male are biologically different to those of a women, which is exactly why they are still at an advantage. Even if they took hormones, is still not fair so stop being in denial.

[@fishy492]

@@brianna4657 My point was the analogy sucked.

[@SuperbiainProelioCitizen]

@@fishy492 actually no, their analogy was spot on. What you’re saying makes zero sense. It does not matter how many hormone injections a male can take, for you to think that’s the only athletic advantage a biological male has over a female is far from the truth. There’s way more to the anatomy of a male’s body that gives a clear cut advantage over females. Biology!

[@sanfranfan49]

@@fishy492 steriods on kids doesn’t do anything but get them high

[@hiimain7932]

Let transgender compete with their own transgender team. And stop crushing the dream of biological woman. Belief does not change biology--respect FACTS!

[@hiimain7932]

@clear plastic well, feelings is not an authentic and reliable evidence in science. Fact should always preveal. I am a woman who likes woman. My sexuality does not change the fact I am a girl. I learned to accept it and now I am a femme lesbian.

[@hiimain7932]

@clear plastic Sexuality and Gender are two different thing. Sexuality is intangible, you cant see it but you can feel it, like inspiration, love, etc. While gender is tangible, you can see, it is in your biology, the one underneath your pants. Falling in love with a woman does not mean you have to be male gender. Again, gender and sexuality are not the same. I am a woman who is attracted to feminine woman and I am also feminine, I love beautiful dresses, and elegant gesture. Again, I dont need to be a man or masculine to fall in love with feminine woman. Again, Gender is fixed upon birth, it is in your biology, tatooed in your DNA. If you are man, you can act feminine, you dont need to undergo so much pain, like medicial surgery etc to act feminine. You dont need to be a girl to be feminine. Femininity is not exclusive for girls and vice versa. Masculine woman and feminine man are valid. As to sexuality, it does not hold any physical rule because in the first place our sexuality is govern by our emotion and desire. No one can change gender at genetic chromosomal level. Man will always be a man and will always have two chromosones in their DNA while woman has only one.

[@Dree03]

@clear plastic it’s not about how anyone feels about this situation. You can’t argue for these girls to have to run again people who have a natural advantage. It would be ok if males weren’t winning most of the time and hurting females who did not choose to go against them. That’s not the case tho

[@Dree03]

@clear plastic there are men bodies involved

[@Dree03]

@clear plastic do trans men win most of the time? Do trans men break records? Honestly they are putting themselves in danger but that’s their choice. That’s y no one is talking about them

[@momoali9312]

This reminds me of that one south park episode

[@oddman1631]

Strong woman

[@sindelscat9336]

What's South Park? I don't mean to be rude but I have no idea what that one is.

[@oddman1631]

@@sindelscat9336 it's a Tv show that is funny af.

[@sindelscat9336]

@@oddman1631 as funny as Brooklyn Nine-Nine? ;-)

[@oddman1631]

@@sindelscat9336 idk, you be the judge: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJ6zmIuuh8psnJo

[@falafeldurum2095]

why not just get rid of "women's" or "men's" sports and instead have different leagues of "body prerequisites" or sth. that makes you compete with people that have a similar potential to do sth. as you?

[@xsomledxxnosniborx8417]

Hey! That is a good idea, put birth women and birth men in different categories. B R I L L I A N T !

[@zorlockts5744]

but then men would almost always win ...

[@xsomledxxnosniborx8417]

I wouldn't be mad if they got rid of professional sports. You'd be surprised by the magnitude of the damage that professional sports has done to society.

[@xsomledxxnosniborx8417]

@シS̸y̸n̸ī̸c̸ T̸e̸a̸ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ NO! NO! NO! We definitely are not all the same, W O W!

[@zorlockts5744]

@@xsomledxxnosniborx8417 how ? Genuinely curious

[@donadams3728]

Even if a male is castrated, preventing the introduction of Testosterone, the male hormone for the entire lifespan of that individual there will still be a physical advantage. That is an indisputable fact. This can be observed in every mammal.

[@mikuu144]

uhm??? Did you research at all before this comment?????????

[@YellowCitruslmn]

You can take estrogen buddy 🤭😘

[@joshsalcedo2407]

Do any of you calling her transphobic even understand biology? The biological differences between males and female gave the trans women an advantage. To level the playing field biological women should compete biological women and trans women compete against other trans women

[@ea1766]

They live in a fantasy land

[@vmaninc.761]

I have no problem with a person being trans but I definitely have a problem with them being in a sport that they know they're going to dominate regardless if it's running or MMA because of their physical biological advantages, no amount of estrogen will ever be able to take away the raw strength and power a male possesses genetically so instead of pushing for them to be in female sports they should just be pushing to have their own category in sports; just like women have their own category and males have their own category they should have their own transgender category where they're competing and going against their own Point. Blank. Period.

[@iSlutCake_only2genders]

Yes

[@iSlutCake_only2genders]

@Captainzilla418 no, mens is mens lady’s is lady’s, and tg is tg. If you don’t want to be in the tg(which isn’t a real thing just cry’s for attention) then go into the sport of your birth gender is stupid simple, And to be phobic of something I would have to believe it to be a real thing and I don’t. 🤷 I don’t understand pretending because your to shamed to admit your attraction to the same gender nothing wrong with being that way… just being ashamed to the point of trying to convince yourself (you WILL NOT OTHERS LOL) that your just in the wrong body.. like a syfy film?

[@isaaclukose780]

If you are going to have gender-neutral sports or trans-sport, you're going to have men's sports. They're ALL going to be men. In track and field, swimming, lifting, basketball, baseball, soccer, tennis, any physical sport. If you allow cheetahs, of the top thousand runners, NONE will be humans If you allow all ages, the top thousand runners, NONE will be seven year olds If you allow dolphins, NONE of the top thousand swimmers will be humans If you have men and women in the same sport, NONE will be women It doesn't matter who you "identify" as, the reality is that you are born as who you are.

[@YellowCitruslmn]

Jesus christ bitch they can just transition it literally puts them at the same strength level as a cis

[@Nova-cb3fv]

Be lucky to get 2 athletes in the trans league, especially if there are no girls to cheat.

[@ozzyb6595]

I’ve noticed that most videos and articles about Transathletes predominantly talk about Transwomen (male identifying as females) and how they blow out the women’s team. I am having a super hard time finding Transmen (female identifying as male) articles or videos beating and making new records in Men’s sport. Like literally 95% or all articles and videos is mainly transwomen beating women’s divisions.

[@BushBabineaux]

That's literally explained in the video, men just have an unfair advantage against women, so a man becoming a female will always break the records of female competitions and whatnot; meanwhile females who become males don't break any record for the same exact reason: men are biologically "stronger" in all factors than women, and so there are no articles about biological women who compete with men because they've almost never won anything. Biological men should compete with biologcial men, and biological women should compete with biological women, end of question

[@HardWorkpaysofff]

@@BushBabineaux i know for a fact that a trans man has never won a single competition among biological males

[@allanheyl4752]

because for a women to compete with men is pictured as a good thing base on the stereotype that men are stronger then women... total double standard

[@islamsmydeen]

That’s because trans men don’t have an unfair advantage when they compete with biological men. If anything, they are at a disadvantage because biological males tend to be stronger.

[@meghanodonoghue9066]

That is because a transgender male is not a threat to a biological male who identifies as a male in sports because they are genetically female and therefore not a threat to male sports.

[@lidiasanchez8713]

Finally someone said it thank you for being brave and standing up for women’s rights. We need to protect the future of our young women and stop being treated like we don’t matter.

[@potsandpans7989]

Ah yes we support all women unless they are different

[@NITESHADOWshouske]

It’s not women’s rights. It’s common sense.

[@relaxingsounds1386]

@@potsandpans7989 no, we support women who are actually born women, because that's the only way a human being can be a woman.

[@relaxingsounds1386]

@@NITESHADOWshouske correct

[@steviewondek]

@@relaxingsounds1386 Nobody is "born a woman", such simplistic way of "thinking" Biology recognizes male ,female ad intersex conditions, man and woman are social constructs.

[@lastxmohicanx2508]

If a biological male who went through puberty who has transitioned to a female takes estrogen hormone therapy for 2 or 3 yrs, does it undue the process of his bone density and twitch fiber muscles that were created thicker and stronger (the bones) and faster and more explsoive(the twitch fiber muscles)? The answer is no, yes testosterone plays a part in giving an advantage in aggression and consistent muscle growth and maintenance, but what alot of ppl dont know or really what the trans athlete community down plays, is that testosterone levels is not the key advantage, it is the size one bone structure after a biological male goes through puberty and their twitch fiber muscle size and capability that goes through a drasric change that is irreversible one going through puberty. LeBron james even after years of estrogen treatment will still have the same huge bone size and density that makes him 6 6 and his reaction speed and explosiveness of muscles to jump and respond will still be there. To state scientific facts about the permanent non reversible differences that biologically born males have over biologically born females is not transphobic its stating facts. If there was not a difference or advantage then they would allow the UFC Males to fight against the females.

[@ea1766]

💯

[@jeremiahtray5621]

A phobia is a fear of something.

[@jeremiahtray5621]

It's common sense. You can't change what you was born with. Why do you think a trans man can get pregnant or a tran woman can't get pregnant.

[@aprilrae6551]

Also even the testosterone level for trans women is 3x the average female. This is after hormone treatments.

[@lastxmohicanx2508]

@@aprilrae6551 I was a very blessed athlete growing up and practiced and trained with some girls in track and field and though some very competitive and skilled , there was a huge gap between the top ranked females vs boys. My daugther takes after me and looks like she's a natural born athlete how fair would be for her to train , have dreams and goals, work hard towards those goals only to compete in raises where she's basically handicapped. Thank Gid I live in Florida where our gov, passed a bill banning biological males from competing against biologically born females.

[@charlierae8266]

What an age to be alive. Biological males with xy chromosomes identifying as females with xx, smashing in the opponents skulls in boxing rings, and blowing all the women's track and field sports out of the water and getting a gold metal for it. If only Andy Kauffman was still alive.

[@relaxingsounds1386]

The mistake was going along with any of it to begin with.

[@steviewondek]

"Men smashing women's skulls in" moral panic, drama and hysteria, how many times have seen ignorant comments like this, the facts are a female MMA fighter got her eye socket fractured by her opponent supposedly a trans woman, MMA it is not a pillow fight and female MMA fighters have actually inflicted similar injury's in the past only they weren't sensationalized all over the mainstream media because it was not shocking enough for them.

[@applefarm6126]

@@relaxingsounds1386 Exactly, thankfully it’s not too late to change it.

[@kelvinfernandez4058]

Both men and women are equal. They can both compete with each other

[@charlierae8266]

@@kelvinfernandez4058 Do you punch women? For real? 😬

[@computerstar9883]

And don't forget all those quote and quote "pointless times" when our Anatomy classes and Biology classes kept stressing over what a male and female is. Great Video!

[@YellowCitruslmn]

Being trans myself, you are ignorantly confusing sex and gender my friend

[@stevesanzari7294]

@@YellowCitruslmn Bottom Line is Your DNA ! That’s tells you Exactly who you are NO MISTAKE !

[@YellowCitruslmn]

@@stevesanzari7294 lol but what about their brain chemistry not aligning with their assigned gender from their dna? Dna is far more complicated then just this and that. To try and simplify biology when transgender is biologically a difference, its simply silly and is going to set science back.

[@YellowCitruslmn]

@@stevesanzari7294 no hate my bro but research more I insist, open your mind and heart to a more caring world, is that not better than kids killing themselves over this?

[@Cameron_Is_Inactive]

@@YellowCitruslmn caring world? this world aint caring there will always be sum wrong. like how people will exploit their children for views. or tracing back to around 1945 *hope im correct* killing people bc of the way they are. (jews or the n@zi camp) even wayyyyy back we had problems like not enough equality for women. it sucks that this world will never be caring Not hate. please dont take this as hate

[@rosalynmartin519]

Sorry this happened to her. Fallon Fox broke their opponents skull in a "fair" fight. Fallon Fox is a transgender (male to female), the opponent was a natural born woman. She never stood a chance. Fair is fair. This is not right.

[@theblacksp1derman]

Which is a real good example. I wonder what a transwoman would say after watching that particular video 🤔

[@tankee6787]

Except Fallon Fox And i don’t know what part she broke but she also got injured during a fight also and while she won she had to stop playing sports due to her Injuries

[@vinny_verticallychallenged9671]

uh no

[@ThoseWhoKnowBalkan]

@@vinny_verticallychallenged9671 uh yeah

[@diobrando5549]

@@vinny_verticallychallenged9671 stfu

[@levistinefeld1809]

Simple. Take the politics out and just say biological men can compete with biological men and biological women can only compete with biological women. Regardless of transition or not or the hormones you take your body structure, bone density, and all abilities attributed with your sex and sex alone will still remain.

[@Ari-kx1wj]

Imagine believing all the data from a 4-minute video that sources nothing and is entirely based on a tiny, biased, ignorant sample size.

[@levistinefeld1809]

@@Ari-kx1wj Are you going to sit there and even remotely imply that women and men dont have certain advantages in certain sports? There is a reason they are separated. Say what you want but the chances of a female being able to deadlift against a professional male is incredibly dim. There are male advantages to that. There's male and female advantages to every physical activity. This is scientifically proven. Leave the gender politics and idiotic moralities out of it any only allow biological sex with biological sex. It really isn't that hard.

[@pyromike7237]

@Kronos The Phoenix men have 57% greater bicep size and 109% greater bicep strength compare to women, and hit an average of 162% harder than women on average, just to name a few. In what world do you think that's fair to women to compete with that?

[@levistinefeld1809]

@Kronos The Phoenix Tsk tsk tsk Look at you being bigoted Doesn't your group generally believe that women can have masculine traits? Who are you to say that when MtF transitions they lose the right to be macho? Draw a line that is fair for all or leave with your pity party ideology. Any source i post you will call ignorant or something so im not gonna bother looking up sources on something that is common knowledge for something that can't be universally fair and where taking it case by case is genuine discrimination. Biological women with bio women in sports. Bio men with bio men in sports This is entirely fair for all.

[@aprilrae6551]

Well we know that Males(with hormones) have 3X the testosterone levels of females. And if they continue to train Trans women lose minimal muscle mass. They still have the same 20% advantage that all males have over females in sports. This is why sports are separated by Sex(Male/Female), not gender.

[@Trish.O-q3h]

How can this be allowed to happen? This is the ultimate form of misogyny. What the hell are adults thinking allowing this?

[@ry-dh2kk]

literally what

[@YellowCitruslmn]

OK LOL DEFINITELY NOT MYSOGINY

[@Nova-cb3fv]

My theory is it's a ploy to distract while they finish off the country &/or start WWIII.

[@bradlymacy4108]

2000 men run faster than the worlds fastest woman ever. If you think men competing in women sports it’s fair you live in a world of delusion.

[@bradlymacy4108]

@Sadie Young the truth is hard to accept sometimes.

[@PIMPIN_SINCE_BEEN_PIMPIN]

I feel sorry for this and all other baby girls and young women out there who put their all (blood, sweat and tears) into their favorite sport and know they will NEVER win 1st place

[@ryanhanson3365]

It would be transphobic to prevent a trans woman from joining the cheerleading team because it’s much more gender specific, much less competitive, and they gain no advantage. It is NOT transphobic when it comes to sports because the reason men and women are split is purely biological. It’s not meant to be a “boys club” or “girls club”. It’s not about gender identity it’s about sex! If all professional sports were coed, women would be virtually nonexistent and have no opportunity to compete.

[@Underscorejed]

I mean cheerleading is a co-ed sport regardless but ur tight

[@analdestroyer8000]

I mean, I'm trans but this is making more sense then what I was thinking- this was the first time the internet has actually changed my mind.

[@MichaelM28]

@The Ancient Avocado Bullshit! They're still way stronger than any real woman!

[@marcmurphy6934]

Why is there two men in the thumbnail, this is about women? Like what?

[@geef917]

They identify as female so they can compete in woman's sports now destroying women's sports now

[@marcmurphy6934]

Pigrulerperson exactly, there’s literally no one who goes to the extent to identify as Female just to dominate in sports.

[@geef917]

@Pigrulerperson makes it's fair I live in CT west hartford where this girl is from every year all the scholarships go to transgender it's not fair. Maybe look at sports where they have transgenders in the woman's league and see who the top players. The female dead weight lift record in England is held by a man who's not a professional but went and competed to prove a point identified as a female now he owns the record in England

[@geef917]

@Pigrulerperson there's an easy solution have a transgender league. We need to stop making policies on feelings and looks at facts and that's how policies should be passed

[@geef917]

@@marcmurphy6934 keep going www.womenarehuman.com/muscle-bound-male-transgender-dominates-womens-sports/ I can go on for days including a transgender in the MMA who broke the skull the female competitor.

[@onkofdhilaac3991]

How is this even a question they choose facts over a feeling

[@vinny_verticallychallenged9671]

it isn't facts..

[@vinny_verticallychallenged9671]

@@mantisninja4945 it really isnt hun and science proved this a long while ago.

[@vinny_verticallychallenged9671]

@@mantisninja4945 say you're transphobic and go cry :)

[@vinny_verticallychallenged9671]

@@mantisninja4945 some trans women / men take hormones before puberty so you have no room to speak

[@ThoseWhoKnowBalkan]

@@vinny_verticallychallenged9671 the biological difference between males and females is apparent, and so is the physical structure between them. math isn't necessary to realize that even when trans women take pills that lower their testosterone they still have their male body. the video is correct in the idea that trans women should not be allowed to compete in women's sports. it's unfair my guy.

[@unclejuan8301]

Sports is about physique. Male and female physique are different. A male, even if he think he’s female, is still male physically and should compete with the males. Just common sense.

[@camiscloset2369]

Everyone sacrifices things in life. It’s not fair to a biological woman/girl to go up against a male body. A transgender may have to sacrifice doing what they want to do to be able to live as a trans just like I cannot ever be a runway model because I am 5’2. Is that considered body shaming or is it just that models are required to be very tall? I have no choice.

[@undead999]

this one video fails to offer enough context and data to draw unbiased conclusion. theres a lot of variables and i think people are viewing children as grown adults when watching these things its like assuming that a 25 y/o male thats trained is competing against 16 y/o high school girls. not every school has a trans student, not every trans student wants to compete, not every trans student cares about awards, not every trans student has experienced typical hormones releases of their birth gender, not every cis girl has low testosterone levels, not everyone practices. i was good at track in high school gym class, i dont think we had a track team but i learned to beat everyone in my gym class on track days- not same things but i worked hard and developed breathing techniques, i beat guys that had more testosterone, guys who were faster than i was initially, guys that could beat me in arm wrestling, etc.. also all the girls and many could have beat me in arm wrestling... i was probably a year or two behind other boys on testosterone so disadvantaged me kicked their butts

[@aoifeig4859]

@@iminswagony5613 no. it’s literally just science. there’s a reason why we have separate races/leagues for men and women. it’s about equity.

[@percaholic6939]

@@iminswagony5613 It's not about gender roles. Biologically men have a physical advantage over women such as higher testosterone levels, muscle mass etc. Yes woman are capable of being strong but the undeniable fact still remains

[@stormprince5173]

Only fair way imo, is to have a separate category requiring hormone replacement, for Transgender males and transgender females having them compete against separately against each other.. They all had the same biological start and all choose to transition. And I guess testing hormones levels would probably be needed to ensure equality.

[@isaaclukose780]

If you are going to have gender-neutral sports or trans-sport, you're going to have men's sports. They're ALL going to be men. In track and field, swimming, lifting, basketball, baseball, soccer, tennis, any physical sport. If you allow cheetahs, of the top thousand runners, NONE will be humans If you allow all ages, the top thousand runners, NONE will be seven year olds If you allow dolphins, NONE of the top thousand swimmers will be humans If you have men and women in the same sport, NONE will be women It doesn't matter who you "identify" as, the reality is that you are born as who you are.

[@jessicawilkerson6294]

@Kristopher Prime Well if they don’t make the category available, then there will never be enough transgendered athletes to compete against one another! Until then, it’s not fair to women to have to compete in physical sports against trans women who were born male, and have gone through puberty!

[@ttxlovely8629]

bro its "trans women" not biological men who THINK they're female

[@Queen-zj9ml]

Nope it’s biological men who think there female and a thought all you liberals where all about the science

[@-amoureuse-9489]

“Biological men who think they are female” is the exact term for trans women😒

[@Weomoo]

@@-amoureuse-9489 no it’s “ biological men who ARE women”

[@Queen-zj9ml]

@@ashbluesky7138 the science is that mask don’t even really help look at Florida they have no mask mandatory and they are one of the lowest states with Covid

[@Queen-zj9ml]

@@Weomoo no they think they are not who are you are women if you have a period

[@rosieposiedidnteatavacados]

Put trans men in Women's Sports. Put trans women in men's Sports. That's how you fix that!

[@sowelldon]

I hate that all the brave ladies that have sacrificed so much in the past for women and girls rights in America and the world are getting spit in the face because of this maddens. I have a trans nephew and I love him dearly. He loves basketball but he knows he can't play with the boys. My daughter plays volleyball and wants to go to Nebraska or Stanford U to play. We all know that my daughter wouldn't stand a chance in male volleyball. come on .

[@certifiedclownlala3672]

stfu i feel bad for your nephew who has to deal with you

[@daddyswift7629]

You just completely disowned your nephew and I few so bad for him

[@vinny_verticallychallenged9671]

okay dipass congrats you've managed to be transphobic AND a misogynist

[@sowelldon]

I just saw the replies and I can't say I'm shocked. Some of you may not have daughters or played sports or just don't really care but if that's how you feel then it is what it is. When I was in college I was HUGE 6'8 330lbs offensive lineman. I ran a 5 flat 40 yard dash and I benched 425lbs ,squatted over 600. Let's say for the sake of discussion a girl wants to play football on the defensive line. Let's say she's 6'0 tall weights 250lbs and is a defensive end. She wouldn't stand a chance. No matter how hard she worked she wouldn't be able to stop me from flattening her every play. She has every right to play but its not fair for her. Why is it fair for a man to go to a women's sport and take opportunities away from her?

[@charlottekampf6719]

what in the world

[@andreascox4956]

What in the world

[@tessalol9151]

No one knows

[@intriguedbyu]

what in tarnation

[@kelvinfernandez4058]

this is equality

[@analdestroyer8000]

im confused

[@Shelloyd]

I did track in HS. I would've been up in arms if my competitors were transgender. Though Chelsie beat Terry in a race, Terry STILL bumped a bio girl to fourth place. They should be boys in the field, and then if they feel like dressing and "acting" like a girl, they can do this at the mall, at home, at a concert, at the movies, at the park, at a party, etc. But leave sports the way they should be: bio girls competing ONLY against bio girls.

[@natoist4889]

They’re not boys they’re transgirls.

[@juliapetrou3237]

@@natoist4889 trans girls are bio-boys

[@juliapetrou3237]

Weird Meow replied: "Julia Petrou testosterone, genes and athletic training influences athletes ability not what’s in their pants." that was a comment that someone made and deleted but I will still take time to answer to them out of respect

[@juliapetrou3237]

testosterone is a male hormone estrogen is a female hormone so what is in your pants determents your biology body anatomy hormones genes and athletic ability when it comes to sports it's all about what is between your legs I hope I helped

[@natoist4889]

@@juliapetrou3237 Hormones do matter but transwomen often use hormones like estrogen and the like. Transgirls this young may have been on puberty blockers and never went through a male puberty to gain those advantages in the first place. Puberty has much bigger effect on strength than genitals do.

[@andrewsteavpack9079]

I think allowing biological males to compete in a female league can partially undermine experiences that transgender people experience in their daily lives. I can definitely say that if I competed in girls track events in HS I would've easily won the state meets in my events by decent margins with the times I could run as a sophomore. I think allowing biological females to compete in a male league offers no distinct advantage but when the other way around with hundreds of thousands of scholarship dollars available to top athletes it can unfairly take opportunities away from others.

[@gorbdafrog5732]

As a girl, I really don’t care. Trans, gay, lesbian, pans, hetero, WHO CARES!! In conclusion, don’t listen to this bs. (As you can tell I’m really frustrated)

[@iam604]

You must not be an athlete who’s trained their whole life to win at a sport only to have that taken away from you because a male believed they are just the same as you? Then again, you can believe what you want.

[@horriblecomedy5284]

@@yisan6474 it does but only by a very small amount

[@kirbyiscool5580]

love how y'all took down my comment with links proving everything you said wrong

[@secretperson2988]

how can u seriously disagree with this?

[@beepboop4595]

@@secretperson2988 because it’s wrong bestie

[@-amoureuse-9489]

@@beepboop4595 they are not women and will never be, stfu and cry about it.

[@Octosona]

@@-amoureuse-9489 Heh look at you trying to be transphobic.

[@iam604]

@@beepboop4595 science actually says trans woman are woman? Please provide that information. What next? Will science prove dogs are cats as well? Science can’t prove beliefs.

[@roseadams8003]

Don’t they feel low accepting trophies knowing they had a huge unfair advantage?

[@river9603]

@Mgtow Fact their gender is woman , but their sex is still male. They still have an advantage, screaming “transphobe” doesn’t cahnge biology. I support trans people 100% but this is unfair.

[@fario4332]

@Mgtow Fact bro don't use mgtow in your name . MGTOW people support fact not fake ideology

[@mystyk5896]

They are aiming for college sponsorship

[@cu5864]

I think they want attention. They know it's a cheat but they also know it'll be controversial and garner lots of attention. Also they also get to make a few girls feel defeated but that's just the cherry, I think.

[@daniel.sandberg.5298]

We are not transphobes just because we want a fair race

[@Englewood5500]

The man who finished the man race at 2:11 I'm dead

[@Pheonix-gb6qu]

Facts just facts In year 10 (Sophomore for USA) me and 2 girls had a race in Physical education before the class started it was an indoor race and I won every time even after giving both of them a 10 second head start I still won…

[@Targetshooterscorner]

After my freshman year of college I could almost break the women's world record in the 800m run which was set by a Russian who was likely doping. I'm a trash male athlete relatively speaking.

[@Eris00i]

Yeah, running specifically is a sport where males are performing significantly better than females. I can understand the frustration these women must feel... it’s like having a heavy weight champion go up against a light weight champion in boxing, it’s simply not fair.

[@Targetshooterscorner]

@@Eris00i But what people fail to realize is that these physiological differences. Aren't just present in the athletes they are present in non athletes too. Regular dudes who don't even workout can out perform some women who go to the gym everyday.

[@kiwo579]

@@Targetshooterscorner waa waa genetics, we’re all humans quit blaming genes for your lack of effort

[@Targetshooterscorner]

@@kiwo579 lack of effort ?

[@kiwo579]

@@Targetshooterscorner heres another thing, racing isn’t about placement you hear that little skeleton baby? Can you understand that or do you need me to speak slower?

[@DaughterofaKing1]

No. This is not fair. A woman couldn’t possibly be as strong as a real woman. You don’t have to explain sweetheart. It’s not fair.

[@Micah_ware]

The misgendering and skewing of facts is frustrating. I personally think that a separate competition should be available for trans women so this kind of stuff doesn’t happen. However that doesn’t excuse leaving out facts to make your argument seem more dire. In high level sports competition cis women beat trans women all the time. But these videos don’t want to include that because it doesn’t support what they are trying to push. Blaming trans women for these problems is very extreme. A trans women frequently compete against cis women without them knowing, but they don’t care because the trans women didn’t win. People only care about trans women winning in sports when they didn’t win. A women being trans is an easy target for blame and discrimination, and it’s very frustrating.

[@gueritajfs]

So if I myself who happens to be an adult were to believe and feel that i am an child stuck inside an adults body would that make it fair for me to compete in sports against children at their level?. No because biologically I am faster, stronger ,taller etc,,, This is not about discriminating or being hateful this is about being fair. I know that if I was transgendered I would respect and be understanding to why the people feel the way they do .

[@kirbyiscool5580]

the reason you can't do that is because theres no surgery that can change these differences but there are MANY surgeries trans people can get to make it fair

[@randomtv1980]

​@Amalie Olsdatter I loveeee your comment!

[@avarkkthewicker2314]

I LOVE when she always says "it's against.. girls *like me*"

[@vasylholubets8237]

are you personally offended? :D

[@Rusty571000]

@@vasylholubets8237 I wonder if this pretty girl is a flaming liberal. Not so open to everything now, huh?

[@kevenfromsales6830]

Its against biological women ffs

[@avarkkthewicker2314]

@@Rusty571000 who're you referring to as a girl here-

[@Rusty571000]

@@avarkkthewicker2314 The girl talking about how unfair this is.

[@animecutie.]

This is sad and all boo hoo but why tf does she keep referring to trans women as men? That’s just transphobic and the transphobia is this comment section is even worse. Also i dont get why people are just now getting mad bc they "have an advantage". Like bruh tall people have an advantage in basketball sports are literally about having advantages and working hard. Transgender women are valid and are real women! Transgender men are valid and are real men! At this point it feels like cis gender people hate us for just existing...

[@chiefmonkey8235]

That’s what so many people don’t get, if you want a fair race get rid of all people with advantages including height, strength, better vision, bigger lung capacity etc, all these people that have advantages aren’t being told that they can’t compete because of those things, and yet people still tell transgender people that they can’t compete because they supposedly have an advantage, the problem is is that people pick and choose what they think is acceptable and not in order to be transphobic, and they need to learn that sports isn’t fair there’s always going to be people that have an advantage, and if your gonna ban some of them then ban all of them or none, as simple as that :)

[@nguyen2003]

Woah, never seen as much dislikes as there are likes

[@snowwhiterosered8571]

Check again😊

[@happy.time.boredom]

The likes are winning, but hopefully not for long.

[@LorenzoItaly]

Go to Justin Bieber most popular song.

[@wangi5159]

@@happy.time.boredom why, the video is speaking facts.

[@grimmcreeper192]

@@happy.time.boredom yeah, why tf shouldn't likes be winning? women sports should be for real women and men sports should be for real men. Your persona or whatever tf you identify as doesnt matter.

[@derekghh]

No, they should compete in their own category, get their own washroom and this will be safe for everyone.

[@shroomnoodlez_]

Or we could let trans women at a certain point in their transition play with cis women, as studies prove that at a certain point they have virtually no advantages over cis women other than skill, and we could make multiple, single-person gender-neutral washrooms and everything is solved.

[@AstaIsAMonster]

Why the F does this video have so many dislikes. Smh This *REAL WOMAN* is speaking *FACTS!*

[@kelvinfernandez4058]

no she's not

[@oworigrey2246]

@@kelvinfernandez4058 Every single thing she said was factual

[@kelvinfernandez4058]

@@oworigrey2246 no were all equal remember

[@SparklingHarmony]

@@kelvinfernandez4058 If we're equal, why do we even divide the sports between men and women? Equal should be for equal rights and opportunities, men and women are clearly not equal when it comes to physical attributes.

[@kelvinfernandez4058]

@@SparklingHarmony that's all changing now. A new law made transgenders equal.

[@boobaby5051]

No! They should have their own category. Like disabled people. To make it FAIR!

[@nickronca1562]

Girl talking in the video when you tell her that transwomen are going to compete against her in womens sports: "What! That is totally unfair, they went through male puberty and totally have an unfair advantage! They are the reasons why I loss!" Girl in video when you tell her that transwomen need to be on hormone blockers for at least a year before competing against women in women's sports and studies have shown time and time again that when it comes to running specifically by the time the one year is up transwomen actually has a disadvantage and are slower on average: "I'm just going to ignore that."

[@akers7972]

people are blind to things they don't want to see. if it doesn't support her argument, she ignores it. i don't understand how this youtube account can "defend freedom" when it goes against the very basic rights of a group of people.

[@SparklingHarmony]

If transwomen are actually at disadvantage and slower on average, why are they all winning...??

[@nickronca1562]

@@SparklingHarmony If transwoman are all winning then why hasn't there been a single transwomen to win any medals in the olympics in the entire 17 years they've been able to compete...??

[@nickronca1562]

@@SparklingHarmony Also from what I heard from transgender youtubers who looked at the article after reacting to this transphobic video the transwomen didn't win at any higher rates than anyone else.

[@michaelrolan4396]

@@nickronca1562 not trying to be hostile but I can’t find any of these studies, the most I’ve seen is just news articles citing sources saying that after a year of hormone blockers, they still have an advantage over competitors

[@sharonevans5186]

This makes me so angry. Trans people have every right to change to make themselves comfortable but please dont call yourselfs either "men" or "women" once you have transitioned - just stick to trans please. Otherwise we are in danger of losing our identities forever. I'm proud to be a woman (not trans) and I dont want to live in a World where that is no longer recognised.

[@amberfurlow6217]

They are not "men identifying as women" they are women and u should open your eyes and realize that.

[@Epimpin101]

She said they are "males identifying as women". Which is exactly what they are. Even by feminist standards that is acceptable terminology. Feminists say their is biological sex and gender and they are different things. Why should biological males be allowed to compete in female only sports leagues just based on identification alone? That clearly gives them an unfair advantage, due to the testosterone and all of the advantages it gives.

[@rentiadutoit3526]

Sorry amber.They are men

[@ea1766]

What’s makes them a woman? Are you stupid?

[@eri-chan1943]

This is not transphobic. Anybody saying it is clearly doesn't compete in any sports.

[@Nigerian-born_American]

Nah anyone saying it’s transphobic doesn’t acknowledge reality, and should be unplugged from the matrix

[@The_SemperFiGuy]

God Bless you Chelsea. You are, in our opinion, the State Champion in Connecticut. These men don’t count and we appropriately ignore them.

[@rencedeasis509]

Men sports : males Female sports : also male? God bless america. 🤣

[@nickronca1562]

Why are the two categories men and female? It should either be men and women or male and female (in this case men and women). Some people (transmen) are men who are biologically female and other people (transwomen) are women sho are biologically male. Because man and woman refer to gender and male and female refer to sex. Also you do realize that transwomen have to be on hormone blockers for at least a year before they join women's sports and are actually slower on average after the hormone blockers than cis women right? The more you know.

[@Nightrunnrr]

you do know trans male compete in male sports right?

[@rencedeasis509]

@@Nightrunnrr and winning like those transwomen?

[@Nightrunnrr]

That what I don't get the double standard for tans men you say they will win because they are lighter being assigned female at birth,but with trans women you say she will win having stronger muscles being assigned male at birth, can we all realize that athletes are difrent cisgender, trans they have body advantages and so if someone beat you In athletics it was nothing to do with their gender they're just stronger or faster than you.

[@rencedeasis509]

@@Nightrunnrr You do know that transwomen have the bone structure of man right? Even though the hormones are repressed you can't change the fact that the frame of their bodies cant change.

[@kevinodom2918]

The number of down confirms America's days are numbered.

[@vermillion8249]

Russia and China will soon dominate the world.

[@ThoseWhoKnowBalkan]

@@vermillion8249 i feel like they deserve to. they don't have broken societies.

[@davidprince1138]

A weight lifter who dead lifted 400 lbs in a men's competition did not even qualify. He transitioned to a woman, dead lifted 400 lbs and broke the current record and as well as all the other existing records.

[@ensnaredbyflesh1030]

Do you know this lifter's name?

[@davidprince1138]

@@ensnaredbyflesh1030 My understanding is that Laurel Hubbard had been competing as a man since 1998 and had not qualified for international competition. After transitioning in 2012 began to win many elite competitions, with a world championship in 2017.

[@davidprince1138]

@@ensnaredbyflesh1030 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oISQk4uXiraVo8U

[@quinnny_]

excuse me I think you got your pronouns mixed up the weight lifter is a woman so she/her.

[@aldonamijalska2554]

It's wrong to have a man compete in women's sports... It's cheating and takes away the opportunity for a woman who's trained her whole life.

[@gavincooper8361]

It is shocking to see how many excuses people make to explain why this should be allowed. Its scientifically proven. Leave your emotions behind and use your brains

[@gavincooper8361]

@Aidan Donohue No amount of transhormone therapy will counter act the growth spurt you recieve during puberty. And if this is true why aren't transmen beating male athletes? They can't because biology can't be duplicated not even with testosterone injections. There are too many obstacles to go through to make any sport a fair advantage for a person who chooses to change thier gender

[@godchrist5407]

You know sex doesn’t make a difference between skill right they are just better and the fact they were born male doesn’t make a difference

[@mesaplayer9636]

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to death your right to say it"

[@mesaplayer9636]

Look at statistics of woman/man sports records

[@planets9102]

@Olivia Ray Trans women have been allowed to compete in the olympics for 17 years, if they have such an advantage where are all the medalists?

[@WinterBIitz]

To the people who disliked are just crazy.

[@rurua6050]

Trans people should have their own league in sports and stick to their own label as trans and be proud of that.

[@shroomnoodlez_]

They can’t though. Nobody will support that cause of transphobia and money, and there are very few trans people(less than one percent of people are trans). Also, many trans people don’t want to be separated from possible friends, and the majority of people don’t really care if trans women are competing in school sports. These people just like to act like they’re the victims whenever possible.

[@lukeyznaga7627]

what worries me, is the amount of thumbs down. WHERE IS the compassion for this young woman who wanted a career in sports or to have a championship medal? this is not about racims, discrimination or politics. Biological males usually will beat females in any sports they participate. a male athlete will always be better than a female athlete. YOU HAVE to respect the "authorities" and experts WHO FIRST CREATED the categories and separation areas of female sports and men's sports. Its biology. Yes, some skill is involved, but its biology. to give an illustration: what if all of a sudden, in the category of SENIORS sports leagues or even just a club of SENIORS or retirees club, it was considered FAIR and "progressive" an a RIGHT for young men and women to compete and force their way into leagues specifically OR ORIGINALLY created just for SENIORS? What would be the difference of a situation like that, as compared to THE PRESENT SITUATION of women's sports now having to open its doors to biological males JUST BECAUSE they "identify" themselves as females OR males that now are Transgenders? There is no difference. It can never be fair, people.

[@kekmanjx2561]

Men go with men Women go with women Trans go with trans. WE NEED TO PLAY FAIR!

[@bobbytackett5233]

Only women should be in women. Not some one who feels like a girl. Totally unfair. Go women.😉

[@LazyGoose872]

@@andrewg2033 their identity should be entirely valid, but identifying as a different gender doesnt remove the issues associated with biological males (XY chromosomal) competing against biological females (XX chromosomal). the points you make regarding self identification are, to me at least, well founded. However these are not the issues at hand here. There are obvious advantages for biological males within sports, especially sports that have a large baring of physicality. Thats the issue. A statistical biological advantage is clear and does make competition unfair for biological females in sport, especially at a high level.

[@LazyGoose872]

@@andrewg2033 i get that, as always many social issues like this are drowning in emotions and feelings, its impossible to avoid but is sadly all too often used as a tool for justification which it isnt and, as much as its possible too, we need to avoid if anyone wants to solve this issue

[@ATLESTEARTCREATOR]

Why can this even happen? its gross as a woman playing in sports this can really hurt us all the women who put so much time into training for their sport and maybe trying to get a scholarship, but a man can just come in a ruin It, I would rather have Trans against Trans. - Hope you guys can understand if you are supporting it is not too late to change your '.' sized mind of thinking that in the first place Facts over feelings.

[@ivanavalieva-trejo133]

I'm a trangenero (trans girl), but I don't like to compete in sports with women, I like to compete with men, because I like to see their faces of courage, when a trans girl like me beats them.

[@ivanavalieva-trejo133]

I'm not strong, like before, after 1 year taking hormones and testosterone blockers. But I'm a little bit stronger to a woman, but half strong to compare to a man.

[@justinfendelet8675]

I can honestly say you WON!!!!!! and we allllllllll know you won!!! 99.4% percent to be exact...so I'd like to congratulate you!!!! a women cheers!!!!

[@jadyynstarlight9851]

When trans people are breaking records and by a lot,all over the place in women’s leagues, some thing is obviously definitely wrong.

[@jadyynstarlight9851]

@Aidan Donohue Those are not the concern. When females can’t get scholarships or the trans women records are far beyond regular female records that they can’t attain, that is the problem.

[@jadyynstarlight9851]

Basically, to make a statistical baseline of what trans women can do in sports, they should compete against each other to see if they are in the ballpark of men’s leagues or women’s leagues. Then, everyone can have a better understanding of what is fair.

[@jadyynstarlight9851]

As far as the person setting world records, these were not WOMEN’S records but setting TRANS records. Honestly, I think this person’s performance was on the LOW side . As more trans women compete, I’m sure these records will be broken. It is doubtful though that regular females will be breaking the records. This is my point. We need data to see what trans women’s capabilities actually are before we start comparing trans women to males or females.

[@LazyGoose872]

@@andrewg2033 its seriously tiring having people like you calling everyone transphobic when they disagree with you, Jadyyn above made VERY reasonable points about the need for data and overall the points made are accurate. A biological female may be able to beat a biological male but the strongest male will always be ahead of the strongest female. Always. It has to be looked at in scale: Serena williams is by far the best female tennis player ever, but she would rank approx (as an estimate based on her own admissions and actual played games against male players) the top 500 in the mens rankings. thats a gaping chasm of difference so even an "average" (say rank 350) tennis player could dominate the womens tennis scene as a trans female athlete. The best argument for your side would be if you could provide evidence of a trans male athlete outperforming TOP male athletes, but i havent found anyone that fits that criteria. If you are aware of someone id happily listen though, but no-one ever manages to answer this question and everyone i ask just avoids it and completely ignores it....

[@LazyGoose872]

@@andrewg2033 thats incredibly good of you, you are most deffinitely a cut above most of the people i find on these sorts of videos! and sadly its an awful 2 sided sword, where the issue can be used to be bigoted, but people can also claim the opposition is bigotted just to force their point of view regardless of substance. And so the circle continues... Yes transitioning does change an individuals physiology somewhat, however there are many factore completely unnafected by things like HRT, and there is also strong evidence in very recent (early 2020) research showing how if op level athletes (the main demographic this issue arises in) transition but keep training, they are able to regain lost muscle mass bone density and return to a statistigally insignificant level of difference to their pre transitioning self. Anothe issue here is that initially the NCAA didnt require anything other then self identification for trans women to compete within the womens category, similiar issues are present across the worl of sports associations but they are slowly catching up as this "issue" becomes more common place. And again i have no doubt that the video is ideologically driven but i am also well aware that the overall science behind trans women in sports does ultimately lead to a large disadvantage to biological women at the top level of performance within its respective field. So rude and horrible it may be but the issue is genuine overall, and just personally thats where my interest lies

[@bobby2169]

Why are you automatically called “phobic” as in FEAR. If you don’t agree with the transgender community. Why can’t you just flat out not like or support their way of life

[@characrum3523]

Transphobia is both a fear of, and an unnatural aversion to, transgender individuals. And not liking or supporting trans people supports those who discriminate against them unfairly.

[@thanos3349]

Just make 2 more gender categories in sports and then everyone will be happy. That's it!

[@theblacksp1derman]

I am all for equality but when talking about transwomen in sports (who has been determined to have been born biological men) hormone treatment, in hundreds of studies, has very little effect when it comes to playing fair with biological women. Idk if a transperson feel like it degrades them by hearing that they once boys and maybe an insult, that they will always be boys. But this is destroying female athletes in the sporting arenas, even more so with girls in high school because this will most certainly turn them away from competing in them in the foreseeable future. I believe the only way would be for ALL girls not to participate in ANY of these events, which may sound harsh but just think of what this will do endorsements, college recruitment, etc 🤔

[@caboose2569]

2:30 Its hard to explain that no matter how much you hate your body, how hard and long you wish you had been born the opposite sex. It cant happen, and no ammount of training wishing or medicine will every change that. The feeling that on top of that your friends loved ones and society might not give you the basic courtesy of accepting you for you ARE inside cause theyre too busy staring between your legs. This goes for FtM too. I hope you lose ever race you go on. Maybe then you can learn what losing out on the life you wanted feels like for a trans person.

[@legowoshi]

"the new women's champion- Also a male" is funny to me. I like how everyone talking about trans people in this look like they're delivering horrible news and I like how it depicts the trans people always winning when in the Olympics didn't they have a really hard time. Anyway the girl is biased I think she's just making the distinction between her and those other women so that she can say she technically won so why would they get someone so biased to talk about something like this, you can kind of tell because she doesn't seem to care about trans men in men's sport only her experience and now she's generalising it to all of sports. This is a really fuzzy topic that I honestly dont have much experience or knowledge on but does anyone else think making this girl talk on it was a little bit dodgy, also all of the really cheap manipulation where they show all of the people sad and all of the women who aren't trans looking defeated or scared and all of the trans women all stronger and triumphant like it's just all really dodgy to me

[@2nolio276]

If you're born a man, you should compete in sports with other men, or atleast others who are trans. She shouldn't have to care for "women" who are basically cheating.

[@lookylook1131]

Just curious here, but should Lebron be allowed to play in the WNBA if he woke up one day thinking that he’s a girl?

[@meowforcats6694]

It’s not one day that you start feeling that way. It’s more like one year that someone starts feeling that way

[@meowforcats6694]

@@AB-ry7bl that’s called being genderfliud that’s different

[@ryanhanson3365]

More importantly, why in the world would he even want to compete in the WNBA if he identified as a woman? Gender identity is irrelevant in sports.

[@meowmeow6013]

@@AB-ry7bl It isn't wanting attention, it's being comfortable in your body. Let's say Carl felt like Carly one day, but felt like Car (nb) the next. There's nothing 'attention-seeking' about that at all. Carl/Carly/Car is literally living how they want, not seeking attention. Also, I think you meant to say sex instead of gender there? Gender is a social construct, and people can change that. You know what people can't change? Their sex. But that doesn't make them any less of the gender they identify as.

[@Nightrunnrr]

that's really not how being trans works bud alot of therapists are involved it takes more than just a day obviously most trans people take years and years of treatment

[@opticalviews123]

I see many people saying "well trans woman who want to be men are never brought up in this." Stay in your lane, you are biologically a woman so in a physical sport which has lots to do with natural body shape, bone density, lung capacity, stronger strength in specific muscles means that if different genders cross eachothers lanes that makes it unfair for at least one person.

[@natoist4889]

You mean trans men? FtM are transmen. MtF are transwomen.

[@unsaltedhusband1536]

The issue with this is by you deciding that trans people should not participate in their gender identity sport is making them feel belittled and like they're not worth any gender as someone who has a trans cousin when he found out he was not allowed to play on the soccer team with the other boys and make him feel like he wasn't worthy enough to be a male

[@froginabucket7294]

They dont care with trans bathrooms,so why would they care with sports

[@joshuajiaomartinez4997]

I don’t believe trans women is a real thing. You can hate all you want, I am never changing my mind. I stand with actually science.

[@toshsimpkin4386]

Men make the best female athletes.

[@kaceeiacovone7840]

They should organize sports by chromosomes nowadays, not gender

[@amberharmsen2497]

Chromosomes do not inherintly relate to physical skill or ability Why is it when a cis woman competes in basketball and is 6’0 considered made for the sport But when a transfemale of the same height is considered cheating or unfair Most people forget the NCAA and other sports based associations have hormone based testing rules for transgender athletes Hormones can and do change a persons anatomy muscle density and bone density If taken for a long time The idea that trans females cannot compete with cis females is a result of millions of people ignoring study’s done by the medical and scientific field

[@Squidlark]

@@amberharmsen2497 So being on hrt for a year has a massive effect on a trans athlete's body but being on testosterone for decades has zero effect? How convenient.

[@amberharmsen2497]

@Amalie Olsdatter science supports the idea of transwomen having advantages Or science does not support the theory of transwomen having advantages Make your comment make sense

[@shortfuse75]

I just don’t see how this is fair to biological women. Where is the common sense?

[@benp4339]

I dont understand. Why are people only complaining now? Isn't this what everyone was fighting for all these years to have Trans people be treated as equal? Now its a problem? Everyone was warned this would eventually be the outcome of the lgbtq movement. Anyone could have seen the outcome of that whole movement leading to this exactly. Those people who campaigned and fought for this need to keep the same energy. Thinks it's a lesson learned.

[@Supahkaze]

All the women saying trans athletes should compete in women’s sports have never picked up a weight or played sports a day in their lives💀💀

[@Ether-pb5gb]

140th place vs a new state record. Big difference

[@cathalkelly8796]

Best of luck changing the rules to a fair playing field. Keep fighting for what you believe because you are 100% correct!

[@cirmented]

No

[@iam604]

@@sabbath333 where are the trans males who are breaking real males athletic records at? There’s no evidence of difference right? So are we to believe that real female who takes testosterone for one year is not going to be physical the same as a real male? Where is that scientific evidence at? But more importantly, where are the record breakers in real male sports that trans males have broken? The world awaits...

[@snickerscat00010]

bro not all men are stronger than women. i think you're just a little stirred up like the minds of transphobes. 🥰

[@Jambuc829]

@@snickerscat00010 That’s a strawman the debate isn’t over athletes vs non athletes. It’s about the clear advantage biologically born male athletes have over biologically born female athletes.

[@Jambuc829]

@@sabbath333 You are just ignoring facts and evidence in favor of people’s feelings.

[@stephenmullins7762]

Organized sports are one of the most incredible things that you can have your boy or girl be a part of. Anyone who defends trans girls playing girls sports is in support of this great experience being taken away from girls who were biologically born as girls because parents of young girls will stop pushing them to give sports of any kind a try. Would you push your child to try something they simply won’t succeed at because you know there is a high probability that they will face competition that they cannot, no matter how hard they work, compete with? No, you probably wouldn’t. So, unless this starts changing quickly, we are going to see the most massive drop off in a sports category that there’s ever been, and it’s unbelievably destructive to have this happen. I have a 3yo daughter, and I really hope that I have the chance to put her into a sports program one day that has left this insanity behind. The dangers are many fold, and will show up soon. Some already have, and it’s scary to listen to supporters who don’t care.

[@sleeplesshead602]

Those people who keep speaking up bout human rights is also the people who do discrimination and simply take out 'transphobic' card to those who disagree with their views.

[@wagamuffin5048]

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[@WhiteWolfHealer2293]

Poor kid. It's ridiculous that girls have to deal with this crap now, anyone can see how passionate she is about Track and that she genuinely cares. She may be reading from a teleprompter to tell her what to say, but the emotion is there. Men and women are different for a reason, just because 6 ft "Betty" wants to play the part of "girl" on the Track or on the field doesn't give him the right do to that. What about the actual women on the team?! What about the girl who trained for years, sacrificed so much and worked insanely hard to get on the Soccer team? Where does her dream go? Oh right, it gets squashed by a giant tree trunk of a MAN who steals all of the winning goals because his height, stamina and weight is an automatic advantage! Does the rising Soccer star get any say? Of course she doesn't! Because THAT would be transphobic, that would be sexist, that would be SUCH an evil horrid thing to say! With giant "Bertha" getting all the wins all the scholarships and all the opportunities that the actual girl should've gotten, she falls to the wayside. Forgotten and broken. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! That's America today? That's progress? That's the hope for women in the future? No! Sports need to be separated. Real women need to have outlets too. Biological women are real.

[@WhiteWolfHealer2293]

@@andrewg2033 Oh cry me a river, I know what this group is. I'm subscribed to it. Sorry but not everyone is going to be on your side or agree with you, not everyone is gonna coddle you and feel sad when feelings are hurt. This is my opinion, nobody has to agree with me. You certainly don't have to agree with me, I know what I said and I'll say it again till I'm blue in the face. I don't care if it is transphobic or not, in my eyes there are two genders and two genders alone. You don't agree with me that's okay. But know that just because someone bluntly says how they feel, doesn't mean their gonna tip toe around the people that disagree with them. It's an opinion, welcome to free speech.

[@RealThisisA]

@@andrewg2033 it never fails to see people being more concerned about being "misgendered" and "transphobia" than women's safety and concerns. It's almost like women speaking up or protecting women is transphobic. Amazing.

[@munka_9935]

As a transgender, I do believe that sports is a huge issue, which is why I do believe that they should seperate them into biological groups and not identify the track teams by SEX and not GENDER...HOWEVER, you should still refer to these transgender athletes as their perfered gender, which is where I believe this is a bit on the discriminatory side

[@zingyburger]

She said "male" because their biologically a male lmao. "Woman" is just an identity. And yes, I completely agree, there should be a different league for trans women.

[@munka_9935]

@@zingyburger that's not what I said, I said they shouldn't have leagues of gender, but of sex

[@munka_9935]

@@zingyburger and their perfered gender was a male, so it is polite to call them by that

[@munka_9935]

@@lonewalker_1155 exactly, that's why we should split then up biologically

[@demogorgon5394]

Y'all notice this comment section is filled with Trump supporters and "oppresed" straights...