Should We STOP Being Atheist? Why?? Call Paulogia + Forrest Valkai | Sunday Show AFTER DARK 01.05.25

[@saicharand7765]

People like John is how planes get driven into buildings "I know that's evil, but god knows best !"

[@gornser]

My thoughts exactly

[@ottonormalverbrauch3794]

I get a strong 'Don Corneole is a bad man but at least he leaves my kneecaps alone and doesn't torch my home as long as I pay him what he feels he's due' vibe from John.

[@discontinuedmodel232]

That right there is yet another "paradox" of Christianity. The Biblical God is not as moral (by secular standards anyway) as the vast majority of the people who worship him! 😮‍💨I will grant Christians the "God's ways are different than human ways" but by "different" wouldn't it make sense that their god's "ways" tilt towards demonstrating & advocating for higher/better moral standards versus lower/worse standards? 🤔IMHO Divine Command Theory is the worst reason for excusing/rationalizing the violent insanity & contradictory bipolar nature of their god. Divine Command Theory is like writing God a blank check with no auditing - nor even concern - as to where their funds are being spent. "God must have had a reason" 😇makes about as much sense as "Hitler/Idi Amin/Joseph Stalin must have had a reason" 🤩. Sidenote what did Jesus accomplish when it comes to helping humans become more loving humans? My takeaway is Jesuses message was "Hey - the world is going to STAY jacked up just like it was when my dad was running the show as a solo act, but he's getting burned out on managing the whole "sacrifices for iniquities" thing, so I will be your sacrifice - but there's a catch! Believe in and worship me, or when you pass away you go to this new place of eternal fiery torment I came up with. 🙁But turn that frown upside down kids! 🙂As a Club Jesus member, when you pass away you get the privilege of worshipping/praising me 24/7 for all eternity! Yep - no sleep, no vacations, no "alone time" at all really - just worshipping & praising me every moment for the next 73 gazillion years and then some! 😃

[@amyb.2968]

Or if he thought that if god asked him to pilot the plane would he do it?

[@ItsActuallyAspen]

Thanks again for taking my call! I think your advice is really valuable and it helped to confirm a few things I was already feeling. I was nervous calling in but I think overall it was a helpful talk!

[@lyonrichardson6657]

You nailed it Aspen

[@Heathen2913]

You were a wonderful caller and I am glad that you found some help.

[@jacobtorma2490]

much respect for you to be brave enough to call in.

[@ahsanzee]

"Forrest you're a biologist and Paul you're Canadian so you may relate as well" was my favorite line of this episode 🫶

[@AbleAnderson]

Find a therapist or go to recovering from religion; don’t clog the show’s lines with rapport seeking easy topics

[@aonary5382]

Johnathan "can you please be open minded" Also Johnathan "No matter what you say, its going to be nonsense"

[@TVWJ]

In my experience, people who are asking others for being open-minded, flexible, more tolerant or similar, have the intention of not being just that. If they themselves were open-minded, flexible, tolerant, then they would not need to ask to begin with.

[@EmpressLizard81]

​@@TVWJ has "do your own research" vibes. Those who say it never intend on changing their minds, they just want you to come to them.

[@tallgirl195]

Jonathan: "I'm not gonna pretend to know" Also Jonathan's next sentence, if humans existed during the flood: "Yes" 2:00:22

[@tallgirl195]

"Ok but let me just repeat what I said at the start and never listen or acknowledge the absolute irony of my statements"

[@Julian0101]

@@TVWJ Is the same vibe as the "what if you are wrong" apologists that refuse to ask themselves the same what if thay are wrong question.

[@blakewalker84120]

When Jonathan (CA) says "I study fluid dynamics, etc.," what he means is: "I watch videos from people who believe what I believe and ignore, in fact, deliberately avoid learning, any opposing viewpoint."

[@IRGeamer]

"I don't have a real problem with ignorance. We are all ignorant about a variety of subjects we are not currently aware of. The real problem is when that ignorance is wilful, baseless and used as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with you, or anyone who has the nerve to present facts you don't want to accept." - anyone who actually cares about verifiable reality

[@Nocturnalux]

All the “fluid dynamics” he does is pouring drink into a glass,

[@Garyskinner2422]

​@@NocturnaluxIn that case I have a PhD in fluid dynamics.

[@discontinuedmodel232]

Jonathan's mention of the Koalacanth fish makes for a very bizarre mental image I must say! 🤨

[@blakewalker84120]

@@discontinuedmodel232 LoL, yeah, put that up there with the crocoduck. But I gotta say, I'm far more frightened of the liondiru fish...

[@FaiaHalo]

3:24 New Forrest videos coming

[@ItsActuallyAspen]

Much love to you too! If I may correct the note about my call? it's not so much that they espouse that view, it's moreso that I (unfortunately I admit) express that view with regards to religion in a "love the Christian, hate the Christianity" kind of way. Thanks for the timestamps, I always find them really useful :)

[@tiltingwindmill]

Thank you, @Faia!

[@kathyheyne6030]

Hello Faia and thank you! 🤩

[@Celeste-hl1kw]

I think Ray said he was a Sikh, but does briefly talk about a Hindu concept to introduce his topic.

[@eldritchwulfe]

@@Celeste-hl1kw Yup, he's a sikh

[@no-one3804]

The human Christopher needs to listen to this when he’s sober.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

I’m surprised you managed to write that without the day-drinking human shouting you down.

[@oliverthompson9922]

I love it when John complains that Forest makes his arguments look bad.😆

[@kaecan-oz]

its so funny when he was like "you're tryna make me say outrageous things" like naw man, you've already said it, Forrest is just showing you how outrageous the things you've said are

[@blaguard6963]

As an engineer, hearing "I understand fluid dynamics" and "fluids scale perfectly" in the same breath is both painful and hilarious

[@cgfamorcan9809]

Christopher: "I'M NOT SHEEP!" Also Christopher: "I'M NOT NORMAL!"

[@ivanpetrov5255]

"I'm not like other girls" energy 😂

[@brianharris7243]

he's a nutter

[@aonary5382]

He sounds unvaccinated

[@blackhelm5773]

​@@aonary5382 More like a cranky old transphobic shitbag.

[@ericmicke4130]

The conversation with Christopher made me feel like I was talking to an argumentative elderly person with early signs of dementia.

[@Kilotip1]

Jonathan is the prime example of the Dunning Kruger effect.

[@oliverthompson9922]

I'm not sure. Usually Dunning Kruger applies to people who have very limited knowledge in a field, causing them to think they know more than they do. This guy has literally NO knowledge whatsoever.He just looks at things and goes with his feelings.

[@jaimefernandez2624]

@@oliverthompson9922 not only does the know nothing but instead he knows lots and lots of details about lies on that subject, so i dont know maybe that needs a diferent name if it doesnt have one alread but it sounds worse.

[@ericcarter5590]

I kinda want to sue him for wasting my time. Class action lawsuit?????

[@Garyskinner2422]

​@@oliverthompson9922It actually can apply to people who have little to no knowledge also.

[@Garyskinner2422]

Absolutely, he's literally a perfect example.

[@joshuaherring1711]

I don’t know if John was a dishonest or just so brainwashed none of these questions ever passed through his head

[@brianharris7243]

both

[@knownonsenseman8283]

Possibly a troll. There were quite a few early on the show with Matt and Promise.

[@IRGeamer]

“If you can’t beat ‘em with brilliance, baffle their brains with BS.” - BS artists/religious apologists/trump magats/poutine shills/brexiters/genocide apologists/neo-nazis/“white replacement” fear mongers/gender critical science deniers/anti-vaxers/flerfs/sovereign citizens/MRA zealots/red pilled sociopathic trolls all over the world

[@litrehead]

Por qué no los ambos?

[@brandontankersley8107]

​@knownonsenseman8283 I'm pretty sure he was sincere until he started to realize the kind of spanking Forrest was giving him.

[@apedley]

Geography graduate here specialising in fluvial geomorphology (rivers). Jonathan doesn't even have a high-school understanding of rivers. Ignore everything he says.

[@Scr3amPuff]

Johnathan- "I know whatever you're gonna say is gonna' be nonsense" says the person that uses magic as a conclusion and has to ignore ALL of the science to reach said conclusion XDXDXDXD

[@kendallchaos]

And the person who requested the hosts “remain open minded”

[@albertcombrink3717]

i thought at first that Forest was getting tricked too easily by the fake callers, but it is precisely that he takes the claims dead seriously and then unpacks them with the same energy as he would unpack any thing, which then strings the caller along until they sink themselves. i love that.

[@anonymouse4793]

Christopher said he is not normal. I agree.

[@AaronOneal-e7h]

One of the few honest Theists. Definitely not normal.

[@pub652]

Arrogant. Obnouxious. Creepy. Delusional. Irrational.

[@IRGeamer]

Yet another Jordan Peterson "cultural substrate" presup.

[@jacobtorma2490]

he was applying the principal of "the louder I am, the more correct I am"

[@Deathvalley1980]

Yes

[@Fairburne69]

Johnathan has BIG issues with confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance. It's stunning. He also acts like a know it all who knows nothing. So bad.

[@jdspencr]

Jonathan is maybe two steps removed from losing himself in a year or "studying" the Tartarian Empire... and then giant bones.

[@alisonjones8861]

Forrest summarizing Jonathan's point as "it kinda looks floody to me" was hilarious! 😂

[@pandorabryn]

Johnathan - Please check out Gutsick Gibbon’s videos about the global flood (she talks about it a lot). The heat problem makes a global flood as described in the Bible impossible.

[@rickmartin7596]

Aron Ra's series on Noah's Flood is awesome as well.

[@blackhelm5773]

That would assume Jonathan could even understand what GG or Aron say. Hearing him, it sounds like the only thing he knows how to do is move those goalposts like a fucking champ.

[@septixskeptix1107]

The heat problem is quite the problem for creationists. Especially the ones with young earth delusions. But I'm sure God just blew on it a bit, like you do with spoonfuls of hot soup. 👋

[@LunaBoo12]

​@@septixskeptix1107This is a fantastic mental image. I'm picturing it like a spoon full of ocean water with continent chunks floating in it.

[@ReiperX]

Johnathan, every field of science that can test for the global flood, debunks the global flood. Physics, geology, paleontology, biology, etc.

[@tobias4411]

Unfortunately young earth creationists don't care about science, just as the flat earthers.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

But all the evidence is in the “boring bits” as he’d call it. What’s clear from his call is, apart from the one little bit he’d read about river channels (which he obviously doesn’t understood in the slightest), everything was boring to him.

[@floydjarvis]

Tried calling in as someone who recently deconstructed, wish I could’ve talked to you guys, but it was still a lot of fun listening!

[@litrehead]

Keep trying!

[@tammyburton8289]

Ty hosts and all in chat that makes the show rock

[@lostexplorersguild767]

Right on. We’re lucky that this channel/show exists. What an amazing group of people!

[@QuiveringEye]

Jfc, Christopher, you need to dial it down, bud

[@Heathen.Deity.]

Human Christopher is where the writers of Spinal Tap got the “ours go up to 11” from.

[@Geekeh_UK]

"Here's this really specific thing about rivers" “Okay sure, but 1. A ship built to those specs from wood and pitch, would leak like crazy, twist and buckle under its own weight and snap in two. And 2. There isn't enough water on earth for a global flood. “Yeah but rivers.”

[@jaimefernandez2624]

even funnier "this river in china is evidence of his flood" when that flood is supposed to have destroyed all of humanity but nobody in china noticed.

[@reallifestockfootage]

John is overly smug in his logic fails.

[@joshuaandashleyearles-benn4749]

I believe John was actually 2 callers. His voice and accent changed after he went silent. And they both failed miserably.

[@johnnehrich9601]

He is a troll. These are the times I really appreciate Matt or Jimmy no-nonsense approach to cut the call short.

[@johnciano3524]

So Johnathan took a minor geology class and now knows more than geologist.

[@mactallica9293]

Also knows more about fossils while not being able to answer a single question

[@tobias4411]

The Dunning-Kruger effect

[@thedriedge24]

No, Johnathan *dropped out* of a minor geology class and now knows more than a geologist.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

I doubt he even did that. He likely attended one, it all flew right over his smooth brain, so he never went back because he was too busy making his halfwitted KZbin channel.

[@agnes7930]

Christopher's first few second where he misunderstood how language works pissed me off so much I decided to go no screens for the rest of the day. Thank you Christopher.

[@anuuuul]

“The only thing that you get out of atheism is intellectual honesty.” That was a hell of a line, and it’s a perfect, concise response to what half of these callers propose. Love Paul!

[@christinamurphy1639]

Does Jonathan believe that the entire river valley is the river's channel? Also we manually straightened out our major rivers and actively prevent them from meandering so they don't destroy our infrastructure.

[@MisterRorschach90]

In response to Christopher’s question that was more of an assertion “what did Jesus do bad?” Jesus specifically criticized the rabbis for holding to oral tradition as a way to not practice the law of Moses. In the specific instance he’s referring to, it’s about stoning a rebellious child. That’s what Jesus wants.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

The best thing John achieved in his call was surviving a biscuit. After that, it was all down hill to Dishonestyville, via Silly Town.

[@catherinem2441]

Relatively new to The Line but already thoroughly addicted. I didn't realize that Paulogia and Shannon Q were a couple. That makes me so happy inside 🙂 Love from Nova Scotia xx

[@blackhelm5773]

Christopher is a special kind of special. Holy shit.

[@polcommwatcher]

What a great chat here, you are all so smart and funny! WolfEnby just gave me a big lol for "Argumentum ad Incompitum" I get so distracted by all your great comments I have to keep stopping the vid. Well done.

[@kendray]

I could never have patience for these calls 😂 kudos!

[@VanHalenIsolated]

55:12 Quote of the century by Forrest Valkai: “If people can make you believe absurdities, they can make you commit atrocities.”

[@Nocturnalux]

He is quoting Voltaire.

[@kainuscorevax3875]

Quote of the 16th century by Voltaire.

[@Nocturnalux]

@@kainuscorevax3875 18th.

[@VanHalenIsolated]

@@Nocturnalux well now don’t I feel silly 🤪 go figure, a quote like that had to be said before. Valkai, Voltaire, same difference lol

[@zen-sean]

We’re all here to learn 😇

[@ToddSheetsEntertainer]

Christopher is a great example of what happens when you get drunk before calling a call-in-show.

[@utes5532]

"It's difficult to tell if someone is trolling or not" After nearly 20 minutes of John holding back the giggles, dodging questions like it's the matrix and provoking the hosts

[@MrAndyStenz]

It also seems like there’s two people (his voice seems to keep changing back and forth)

[@StrangeDevice]

Also explains the coughing fit at the start of the call.

[@loonifer888]

@@MrAndyStenz Absolutely two people. One had a much higher voice and one had a lower voice and a nasally affectation.

[@Locust13]

Not to mention a few hours before this show started how he was creepily telling Eve how attractive she was as his conversation opener in the regular Sunday Show. It's like he's desperately trying to get banned but somehow can't.

[@TheRaven_200]

Jonathan's voice sounds familiar. His default to when his arguments fall apart is *"wHeRE yOu tHerE¿"*

[@ReiperX]

Johnathan, Limestone wouldn't even form if there was a world-wide flood

[@Heathen.Deity.]

He’s just another buffoon who repeatedly says “listen”, while not having the slightest ability to do so himself. Just another Smugnorant who is wasting the oxygen and time of others.

[@Ironic_daemonic]

Jonathan: "can you just have an open mind about my evidence" Also Jonathan: "I guarantee whatever you're gonna say is nonsense so just say it" Very open minded

[@MeaningOLiff]

Forrest and Paul!?!?! Literally my two favourite KZbinrs!! Let’s go!!!!!!

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

John has called before, and he performs this routine every single time. It’s so tedious - he’s like a 4chan troll of old - he just wants to get attention and think he can get under someone else’s skin. He has no idea how absurd he sounds.

[@SaltCitySatan]

Love you guys!!! Thank you for teaching me!!!

[@kendray]

Ok why is Christopher so aggressive and loud for a character he doesn’t even believe in 😂

[@timo5601]

Forrest should take a step back when a deep dive into Bible is required and Paulogia is on. I appreciate his enthusiasm, but Paul has so much to share. A missed opportunity.

[@AlexeiX1]

Im not entirely convinced Christopher didnt escape his room in the mental institution to make that call in secret

[@amathystunicorn]

I was thinking the same. They should be checking on their patients in that area.

[@tmurphy0919]

There is no way that call was made in secret.

[@wyattlightning6681]

This had some absolutely hilarious calls. These two are great together

[@robertwood2005]

People seem to not realize just how recently we have developed modern science. The Universe is really, really big, and we have such puny tools yet for investigating it. Maybe we need patience?

[@DoctorOnkelap]

Jonathan, did it hurt when the space aliens removed your brain via that probe from behind?

[@sthed6832]

I bet Jonathan doesn't know that the Army Corps of Engineers spends tons of money preventing the Mississippi river from meandering all over the place, including over where cities are now. BTW, his KZbin channel does not equal someone's PhD in geology.

[@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363]

God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven

[@septixskeptix1107]

The Line has been doing a really good job getting hosts. I watched both Forrest and Paul before they even started hosting The Line and AXP. Would make my day if The Line got Tracie Harris as a guest host, even for just one day. Would like to see Jeff Dee as well, but he's already said that he has no desire to that kind of thing again.

[@elainejohnson6955]

I spit out my drink laughing while I was watching a video of Aron Ra explaining that since Noah's Ark only had one window, the 8 people on it would have almost immediately died from methane gas poisoning from the animals farting and pooping!

[@SvenSwans]

John was literally a 'i think you should leave' sketch. John: says something awful Forrest: so you're saying this awful thing? John: WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!?

[@redflag4781]

Wtf was that Christopher call?

[@AaronOneal-e7h]

The world may never know.

[@Kenzaki1010]

A paid advertisement for better mental healthcare in America.

[@Cristina-zb2lf]

@@AaronOneal-e7h😂

[@pub652]

@@Kenzaki1010 more like a documentation about the current mental state of some us citizens....

[@mal0561]

Someone who called in drunk or off their meds

[@marcogifuni999]

As a human, I would like to publicly apologize for Christopher. We don't claim him as one of us and he's only allowed to leave his mum's basement on Sundays. Don't even know how he managed to call you guys tbh 🤡

[@Imperial-Socialist]

I think he put human because he missed "Human Social 101" in Alien Infiltration Training

[@hailsagan8886]

Christopher,only sheep need a shepherd

[@Batgirl219]

"We're all just human it doesn't matter, but also MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER!!!!" Oh, so individuality does matter when it's about him.

[@sticks1990]

I love that “radio metric dating isn’t reliable” comes out of the mouth of the guy who tells you to look at Google maps and decides how what he is seeing occurred in real time. Phenomenal

[@DoctorOnkelap]

Just tell Jonathan to seek a cure for his EXTREME Dunning Kruger syndrome.

[@SaffronHammer]

Personally I cannot see the draw of church or its community and utility. There is nothing good and useful that one cannot get without religion or church and without the harm. But Paul, you do you!

[@ryandean5941]

I think the answer to the Fermi paradox is simply that we underestimate the vast distances between stars and galaxies. There could be life exactly like ours all over the place in our own galaxy, and we would still struggle to find it.

[@AshaCrone]

Poe's Law seems to rule online conversations nowadays, and it is maddening

[@flowingafterglow629]

Jonathan - Why would deep fish be buried in a flood?

[@imetr8r]

Jonathan: Where did all the water of the flood go?

[@iconifyme]

He set the tree on fire for not having figs out of season. LOL.

[@Porkproducts]

John sounds like a kid who is speaking to nonbelievers for the first time in his life.

[@hailsagan8886]

John,philosophy can't will a deity into existence. Thanks for playing

[@tommykiger1871]

Especially since he's entire position is based on a 'what if'.

[@roguebotanist]

Christopher says he's not normal and not like anyone else but believes in a God like billions of other people. Hmmmm.

[@lorifiedler13]

I thought subscribing meant giving money. Now that I know, all my favorites are getting my subscriptions!

[@joet.6019]

Josh's phone call had so much potential. If only he could just let the arrogance go a little bit, he may actually be an honest interlocutor.

[@sethmcbride1458]

[57:22] “How do you get from, I don’t know where the universe came from, it must have a cause… all the way to, there is a monster that lives in the sky, that wants me to have slaves?” 🤣 Forrest dropped some bangers in this episode.

[@sfrye6769]

I swear John (MA) sounded like the boy version of a 1980’s 15 yr old valley-girl. I was waiting for him to say “oh my god, like, for sure!” 😂😂😂

[@botarakutabi1199]

Jonathan!!! If you read the comments read this one carefully: Shut up when the hosts are talking. No amount of delay can excuse the amount of time you talk over the hosts. You whined about them not answering you, when really you just aren't hearing/listening to the answers.

[@Never-mind1960]

To us, our universe seems incomprehensibly immense, but to infinity, it is but a tiny blip. Even if there is no other life in this universe, there is, was or will be somewhere.

[@ruthannlitterick2013]

I think I’ve just found a New Years tradition, thanks guys!

[@mrcregg0915]

I want to call in one day, I have an analogy that I think works well in illustrating when someone holds a belief and tries to wrap evidence around it like with Jonathan at the end of the show. I would love to hear Forrest and Paul's take on it so I can either toss it if it falls apart, or offer it as another handy epistemological tool

[@thedamagedmensch]

Christopher is in PA (Amish territory). I think he went out for Rumspringa, and happened upon a meth dealer, and just never came back.

[@LauGarSifu]

Thanks 😇 Your amazing

[@knownonsenseman8283]

There were times during the conversation between John and Forrest where there were long periods of silence when the hamster wheel in John's brain broke down. Either that or John slowly starved the hamster to death - that's what happens when you don't use your brain folks: you don't feed it and it dies.

[@smilinfool]

Jonathan ..I have a masters degree in environmental science with an emphasis in Hydrology. Rivers change over time based on fluid dynamics, which involves differential erosion. Global flood would be obvious in the strafe terraces left behind. Global flood would mean on large strafe terrace everywhere, which does not exist. Geomorphology would be something to explore. 🤘😄🤘

[@ExcelsiorUnltd]

Jonathan CA, “you know what’s interesting?” Yes, Jonathan; nothing you say

[@carlosdeferrer3585]

John, please think long and hard about the words and ideas that come out of your mouth. It's pretty disturbing to the ones of us that are not in your cult.

[@jesperjee]

I LOVE when non-religious people call in! They are just so much nicer, calmer and thoughtful. Whenever theres religious callers I have a knot in my stomach as I listen to them try to form coherent thoughts and honestly feel bad for them. John especially. He is simply too stupid to talk to.

[@Torthetamebadger]

Jonathan 02:04 lime stone was not formed 28 millio years ago, it was formed 350million to 2,7 billion years ago.

[@reefhog]

It’s constantly being formed. Limestone is made up of fossils. After small marine animals die, their shells and skeletons build up on the ocean floor. Over time, the layers of fragments press down on each other, squeeze out the water, and recrystallize into solid rock.

[@hansverhaegen8406]

John is a troll. You shouldn't have entertained him.

[@kylebooth4948]

The mute button is made for people like Christopher

[@MindfulBarbarian]

John is such a fool! Asking questions isn't a strawman.

[@Pkron]

1:10:45 Excuse me, Forrest, but I think you're completely wrong on this point. Spiderman is just "pretty good"? Pretty good? He's a great guy.

[@jrojala]

Spiderman is pretty good.

[@ricklehman8097]

Very good. My favorite counter to a flood is, how did any animals survive it, when all plants would have been killed off by a year of kilometers deep water? Nothing would have supported life for the animals on the ark (including humans)

[@andrewlitow]

Why did John use a toddler voice changer?

[@ShadowMan-z3r]

Christopher: Jesus helped people and that's a nice thing to do. Ok, well what about when he refused to help specific people even when they needed it? What about the fact that he said he only came to help the lost sheep of Israel or whatever his specific words were? What about the way he helped people? Dude thought sickness was caused by demons, so if he touched their foreheads and said "demon begone! fantastic, it's gone, and you will recover tomorrow," that's not helping people, that's lying to them. He lied about the end times, about being the son of god, which was blasphemy, and he lied about coming to uphold the law by going against what moses said about family, and instead said to hate your family to be worthy of following him as his disciple. putting one man above your own family was a sin, so technically jesus was a terrible person and should be out to death, and it turns out many people agreed with this lol.

[@chrisgrill6302]

One of the most nauseating things about Jesus to my mind is that he loved having other people wash his feet. Ugh.

[@MeaningOLiff]

Gonna nitpick just one point; Jesus never really declared himself the Son of God. In the words most likely attributed to Jesus the human, he frequently referred to the coming of the Son of Man. However it’s unlikely that he thought of himself that way. That attribution came to him much later

[@ShadowMan-z3r]

@MeaningOLiff Luke 2:49 says, "Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house?". John 2:16 says, "And he told those who sold the pigeons, 'Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade'". Matthew 3:17 says, "And a voice from heaven said, 'This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased'". Luke 3:22 describes the descent of the Holy Spirit upon Jesus during his baptism. The verse reads, "And the Holy Spirit descended upon him in bodily form, like a dove, and a voice came from heaven, 'You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased'". In John 10:15a and 30, Jesus says, "Just as the Father knows me and I know the Father... I and the Father are one". Mark 14:61 The high priest asks Jesus, "Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?" Mark 14:62 Jesus responds, "I am; and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven" In this passage, the high priest is questioning Jesus to determine if he claims to be the Messiah. Jesus' response affirms that he is the Messiah and the Son of God. He also says that he will come with the clouds of heaven. Then there is of course Jesus' charge of claiming to be the Son of God, which was blasphemy. I don't know, what you just said doesn't look to be the case. The guy went around claiming to be able to heal people and claimed to be the Messiah along with the Son of God and when people spoke to him as so, he didn't deny it.

[@natecarel5949]

‘Pomegranates and apples???’ 😆 Forrest cracks me up!

[@aleeceb4993]

where is that one?

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a HunterAvalone and Vaush fan!

[@darkoleskovsek2558]

John needs to rewatch his call and rethink his life

[@SaffronHammer]

"I recognize the harm, I recognize it can harm people, but it doesn't harm me. Cool, Paul. Keeo being part of a system and ideals that harm others as long aas you feel fuzzy."

[@pcoleman1971]

Yes, the Christian idealism of Martin Luther King Jr., Jimmy Carter, Archbishop Romero, etc. is so oppressive. It' would be so much better to be in a society which suppresses religion, such as under the rule of Joseph Stalin. If you are dealing in absolutes, it works both ways.

[@ZoeySaysTransRights]

Thank you guys for doing this show. You are doing a great public service.

[@MichaelBath-xv5bd]

John is the perfect example of the Damage that book can do to a Mans Mind...Sad..very Sad.

[@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363]

God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven

[@davidsmith-uw2ci]

Jonathan: one simple fact can disprove the global flood by itself. Other civilizations and cultures were around before, during and after the supposed flood. Everyother thing that disproves it is overkill lol.

[@sandman4198]

Jonathon.... submit your evidence and step up and collect your Nobel Prize, it should be very simple.