Should we Worship Jesus? - by J. Dan Gill

Did the earliest Christians Worship Jesus? If Jesus is not God, then should he be worshipped? If Jesus was worshipped in the Bible does that mean he is God? J. Dan Gill takes up these and other questions in this first in a series of sessions by Dan Gill about true "Biblical Worship."
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[@mishkaned7777]

When TRUTH is preached the righteous rejoice!

[@nelsonnjikelani4844]

In my opinion I don't worship or pray to Jesus Christ . I pray to the Father in the name of Jesus Christ 😀😀😀

[@JoshuaGames4076]

Thanks for the clarification comment bro, I really needed this.

[@fredrolinners8903]

Stephen prayed to Jesus (Acts 7:59) as should all who are Christians (Romans 10:13).

[@nelsonnjikelani4844]

@@fredrolinners8903 Nope he didn't. All Christians? Goes against what Jesus Christ said. Pray to the father (John 4:22-24; Matthew 6:9)

[@fredrolinners8903]

@@nelsonnjikelani4844 Yes, he did. Mounce's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words: Jesus is the addressee when epikaleō is used in the sense of praying (Acts 7:59) (Call, page 93). And Jesus never said pray only to the Father. And yes, "all Christians" - to call upon the name of the Lord means to pray to the Lord in Romans 10:13. Jesus is the "Lord"

[@nelsonnjikelani4844]

@@fredrolinners8903 the scriptures you are quoting are not showing us to pray or worship. The explicit scriptures I quoted shows that Jesus Christ said we should worship the Father (John 4:22_24) . The disciple ask him to teach them how to pray (Matthew 6:9-15). He didn't mention "only" the father. Yes. Nor did he mentioned himself. He didn't mention that we should pray or worship him either

[@21stOneGod]

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[@hellisalie1138]

Nice work. I have struggled with, and prayed for wisdom about this topic, as i did not want to offend the Most High by worshipping Jesus in error, even while recognizing that he is Lord of all. The examples of kings Saul and David were very illustrative, so thank you.

[@kardiognostesministries8150]

Jesus is to be prayed to as being YHWH (Romans 10:13; cf. Joel 2:32).

[@elimason7954]

Really helpful teaching. Thank you 😊

[@yhwhsgrace]

Very well thought!!

[@melissareid1595]

Excellent! Well done.

[@pramilarajesh3907]

Wow almost all my questions are answered here thank you so much And so JESUS is called Lord even hebrews chapter 1 explains all

[@stephanieledet7553]

Grateful for this truth.

[@clarkwright3112]

JESUS IS LORD OVER MY LIFE....🙏🏽

[@kiwihans100]

Prayer is a vital part of worship! Who did Jesus teach us to pray to? His Father in Heavan! ( He showed the example himself while on earth "Who, in the days of his flesh, when he offered up prayers & suplications with strong out cries and tears unto HIM that was able to save him from death and was heard in that he feared" ( Heb 5:7 KJV). Thus he showed the way that "The true worshipers will worship THE FATHER in spirit & truth". ( John 4:23,24) Let us all worship the one true & only Almighty God, the Father! Amen

[@4321grp]

Thank you Brother, This is a teaching all Christians need, Keep up the good work, Praise God!!! We never get a chance to hear this from the pulpit.

[@JoyRam13]

what church is this?

[@4321grp]

@@JoyRam13 It's God's truth, His truth doesn't necessarily have to be a building or a denomination.

[@JoyRam13]

@@4321grp I agree but what denomination/church is this preacher from?

[@4321grp]

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[@JoyRam13]

@@4321grp Thank you.

[@gleasonparker1684]

Thanks

[@mishkaned7777]

Rev 5: 9 - 10 WORTHY ARE You to take the scroll and to open its seals, for You were slain, and by Your blood you ransomed people FOR GOD from every tribe and language and people and nation, and You have made them a kingdom and priests TO OUR GOD, and they shall reign on the earth.”

[@fredrolinners8903]

Jesus is worshiped (Rev. 5:9).

[@ultraplusmusic6101]

Yes we should, Jesus said anything u ask in my name I will do it.

[@bizzylife2140]

I also worship the Father through Jesus

[@fredrolinners8903]

Since Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer proves He is God.

[@alkapostol3236]

​@@fredrolinners8903 He is not the Hearer of prayer. Only the Father is - Jesus is the Mediator

[@niltonsilva9557]

​@alkapostol3236 yes jesus is My friend there are alot of Prayer to jesus in the bible .

[@5mjc]

Jesus was sent from Above, Jesus said I come from Above, myKingdom is not of this World.Jesus is the Only way to the Father (Mediator) the Spirit always glorifies Jesus. Jesus is Life. If you don’t have the Spirit of Christ then your none of His. The Spirit gives Life ,Jesus is Life.the giver of Life.The same Spirit that raised Christ is the same Spirit. The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. Jesus said I will send you another comforter, The Spirit of God indwelling believers praises worships and gives Honour to the Lord God Almighty. The Spirit of Christ,In Christ ,being godly ,holy pure spotless and blameless is the only way to see God the Father. The Father God as to see Christ in us. Blessed are the Pure in Heart for they shall see God. Be Holy for I am Holy. The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.

[@bosse641]

(Exodus 20:3) "You shall have no other gods before Me." YHVH said. Seems to be simple and clear. He is God alone. (Isaiah 45:5)

[@leonardodavincioso4359]

John Grytbakk true, God, who is now known as the Father, is God, and God 'Alone' to the Israelites 'I am the LORD your God/Elohim/Gods who have brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods/elohim before me.' But Following the pattern of John 17:3, set down by Jesus, is 'this is life eternal that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ who you have sent' meaning whom the Father has sent. 1st Corinthians 8:6 'but to us there is but one God, THE FATHER ... ; AND ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST'. 'But unto the Son Your throne o God is for ever and ever the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom' Hebrews 1:8 Jesus is God alongside God the Father 'sit you on my right hand' said the LORD to the Lord Jesus Christ Matthew 22:44, Mark 14:62, Hebrews 1:3, 10:12, Revelation 3:21 'to him that overcomes will I grant to sit with me in my throne even as I also overcame and am set down with my Father in his throne': two on the same throne yet on separate thrones.

[@SonOfGodByNewBirthInChrist]

@@leonardodavincioso4359 >>Jesus is God alongside God the Father Jesus is the Son of God, not God the Son.

[@faithfultheology]

How can you have 2 gods

[@SonOfGodByNewBirthInChrist]

@@faithfultheology I think John Grytbakk is making the point that the Father alone (Yahovah) is God.

[@bosse641]

@@leonardodavincioso4359 No, YHVH(The Father and Creator) is God alone. As the man and Messiah Jesus pointed out; Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship The LORD your God and serve Him only.'" (Luke 4:8) And that God is YHVH. John 17:3 is very simple and clear to me that Jesus is not God, as he looks to his God Above and tells us that He is the only true God. And Jesus also confirmed the old Shema of Israel; YHVH is 1 individual.(Deuteronomy 6:4 / Mark 12:29) And the fact that the man Jesus has a God should be enough.(2 Corinthians 1:3 / Ephesians 1:3) God does not have a God.

[@ZinduZatism]

im athirst but i like to point out formula in bible that whatever verse u through at it, it bring out one God and the verse is 1 Timothy : For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, let says Trinitarian says Jesus is a (man and God) so that mean there is no father, jesus send revelations to himself, the God Side send revelations to God side, you see how trouble it is. let put another verse against our formula (1 Timothy) Matthew 24:36 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. again its get trouble here because if we say for the 1 timothy that jesus is dual he is the sender and receiver simultaneously then Jesus have to be simultaneously again in maththew 24:36 so jesus could ask the God side of himself, and he was getting the answer of the hour. Trinity is wrong, no logic , no bible, noone advocated it is fiction, it is wrong, u r worshiping 3 gods, stop it better for everyone, it is the weakness of Trinitarian not their strength.

[@kardiognostesministries8150]

Jesus is "my God" (John 20:28).

[@leonardodavincioso4359]

God gave, noted, Jesus as God on his own throne separate from God the Father's throne Hebrews 1:8 'but unto the Son Your throne o God is for ever and ever the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom' Hebrews 1:8" John 5:22,27 'for the Father judges no man but has committed all judgment to the Son' how much judgment? All judgment which includes: 'and has given him authority to execute judgment also for he is the Son of man' John 5:27 in heaven and in earth Matthew 28:18 'All power is given to me in heaven and in earth' Matthew 28:18 Ephesians 1:22-23 'gave him to be head over all things to the church which is his body the fulness of him that fills all in all' Ephesians 1:22-23. 'To him that overcomes will I grant to sit with me in my throne even as I also overcame and am set down with my Father in his throne' Revelation 3:21 Still, the Father is God over Jesus in all other areas 'him that overcomes will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and ... I will write on him the name of my God' Revelation 3:12.

[@melissareid1595]

Question: What is the Hebrew word for proskeneo? Does the Hebrew language differentiate between worship and obeisance?

[@fredrolinners8903]

There is no specific Hebrew word for the worship due unto God alone - the worship due unto Gd alone is based on the context.

[@melissareid1595]

@Fred Rolinners So what you are saying is proskeneo can mean worship as to God or obeisance to men or angels but the Hebrew word encompasses both and you have to look at the context? I was really hoping for two separate Hebrew words to clarify the difference but I guess not.

[@xxxViceroyxxx]

the first table uses two different hebrew terms, not sure if that's a slam dunk analogue to the greek. nonetheless, in both languages, there is no term for "worship," which is a term that in English we intrinsically think "should only be done to almighty god" so we end up with a compounding problem where the original term could be translated misrepresentatively or that the theistic exclusivity of the term "worship" must be expanded @@melissareid1595

[@clarkwright3112]

JESUS IS GOD ALL THE WAY....🙏🏽

[@metsamanvibration6329]

Who did Jesus pray to and worship? The one true God or himself?

[@scotthix2926]

2 questions - Does God Almighty worship Jesus? Who did Isaiah worship? God almighty or Jesus

[@fredrolinners8903]

Stephen worshiped Jesus (Acts 7:59).

[@scotthix2926]

@@fredrolinners8903 absolutly as God.

[@mattgardiner614]

@@fredrolinners8903 No he didn't. As mentioned in verses 55 and 56, Stephen had a vision in which he saw "the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand." So Stephen clearly distinguished Jesus from Jehovah. Stephen was aware that Jehovah had given Jesus the power to resurrect the dead. It would therefore have been natural for Stephen to speak directly to Jesus, whom he had seen in the vision, and to ask Jesus to safeguard his spirit, or life force. (John 5:27-29) The Greek word in this verse usually translated as 'prayed' is not the usual word for “praying” in the NT. Reliable reference works state that the Greek word used here (e·pi·ka·leʹo) means “to call on; to invoke; to appeal to an authority,” and is usually rendered that way. (Acts 2:21; 9:14; 25:11; Romans 10:13; 2Timothy 2:22) Therefore, there is no reason for concluding that Stephen was praying directly to Jesus. Rather, because of this vision, Stephen felt free to make this plea to him.

[@niltonsilva9557]

Jesus is God he is worshipped. But look at the bible John 14:13-14 jesus receives prayers Prayers is an act o latreou ( sacred servicing) an act of worshipped. Jesus receives same adoration as the father in rev 5:13 In this passage he received same honor and glory that the fathers receives . Why ? 1- is universal and eternal 2- he is worshipped by inanimate things like even the throne of God gives praises to the lamb . The greek word here all things mens everything include the heaven's domain itself not only that but rivers water stones threes sand etc givens glory and praises eternal to jesus . If go to psalms things likelm Threes stars sun and moon praises YHWH. This a praise only god has and its been giving to tbe lamb . In rev 14:4, Jesus receives an a first fruits offert which mens its am act of worship

[@Catholic1391]

Jesus is one with the Father, also Jesus said I am the 1st and the last the alpha and omega. Many places in the Bible, they worship him also.

[@5mjc]

All the Angels worship Jesus.

[@nitochi3]

Thomas worshipped Jesus and called him "my God and my Lord" and so did Mary and Martha when he rose back to life.

[@kerwinbrown4180]

God had multiple meanings as it does in English. You make the error of choosing the wrong one for those verses. It is used for magistrates and judges as well.

[@nitochi3]

@@kerwinbrown4180 show me in the Bible when a judge was called God?

[@davidbradberry7637]

Please don't make "doubting Thomas" a Christological expert. He simply recognized Jesus as Lord and finally recognized that it was the FATHER working in and speaking through His Messiah. See Luke 14.

[@kardiognostesministries8150]

@@davidbradberry7637 He recognized Jesus as his Lord and God. God works in and speaks through Christians, but they aren't to be referred to as "my God".

[@eflint1]

In Revelation 5 God and the Lamb receive the same worship.

[@SonOfGodByNewBirthInChrist]

@eflint1

[@ronaldpool3947]

God is worshipped because He is the Creator? Jesus is the Creator (Heb 1:10) and is therefore Worshipped.... pay attention to the syntactic grammar....focus on **every creature** Rev 5:13-14:And **every creature** which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: “Blessing and honor and glory and power Be to Him who sits on the throne, And to the Lamb, forever and ever!” Then the four living creatures said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped Him who lives forever and ever. Question 1-3 #1) **Every Creature** will worship the LAMB??....explain how Jesus is not a CREATURE if every CREATURE will worship JESUS? #2)define idolotry and explain how this is not idolotry #3)define blasphemy and explain how this is not blasphemy #4)explain what it means to worship God alone? yet every single CREATURE FROM MECCA TO MEDINA, from the Mariana Trench to the 3rd heaven..."EVERY CREATURE" will worship JESUS.... Rev 22:8-9: I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that.

[@SonOfGodByNewBirthInChrist]

@@ronaldpool3947 Ron, the doctrine of the Trinity is a doctrine of Inference. 'See Jesus did that or this - THEREFORE he is God!' Proof texts everywhere except from the lips of Jesus. Because God tells everyone to bow before His Only Born Son you say they are committing idolatry, I see them following God's instructions. And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, *"Let all God's angels worship him."* Heb 1 Therefore *God has highly exalted him* and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus *every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,* and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, *to the glory of God the Father.* Phil 2 Please listen to our Messiah Jesus: When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, *since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life* to all whom *you have given him.* And *this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.* Jn 17

[@ronaldpool3947]

Son of God by New Birth..you stating that the doctrine of the Trinity is a doctrine of inference only tells us your ignorance of truth....I can tell you have never taken a class on logic.... sorry but this is strong evidence from a logicians standpoint which indeed proves Jesus is God.

[@ronaldpool3947]

Son of God please stop jumping around, it only makes you look dishonest... here is the question again.... focus and answer 1-4...put A1, A2, A3, A4....ive encountered many dishonest people who try and slide their way from holding any accountability by playing games...please stop and just answer.. God is worshipped because He is the Creator? Jesus is the Creator (Heb 1:10) and is therefore Worshipped.... pay attention to the syntactic grammar....focus on *every creature* Rev 5:13-14:And *every creature* which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: “Blessing and honor and glory and power Be to Him who sits on the throne, And to the Lamb, forever and ever!” Then the four living creatures said, “Amen!” And the twenty-four elders fell down and worshiped Him who lives forever and ever. Question 1-3 #1) *Every Creature* will worship the LAMB??....explain how Jesus is not a CREATURE if every CREATURE will worship JESUS? #2)define idolotry and explain how this is not idolotry #3)define blasphemy and explain how this is not blasphemy #4)explain what it means to worship God alone? yet every single CREATURE FROM MECCA TO MEDINA, from the Mariana Trench to the 3rd heaven..."EVERY CREATURE" will worship JESUS.... Rev 22:8-9: I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that.

[@thomasfryxelius5526]

It´s really quite simple; either Jesus is God Almighty, the Creator of all things, as we can see in many places in the NT, and thefore should be worshipped as God. Or He is not, and to worship Him is idolatry.

[@mitchellc4]

If by worship we mean worship as God then no we shouldn’t worship Jesus as God Do we bow down to him as king, yes

[@thomasfryxelius5526]

@@mitchellc4 I hope you will one day worship as the apostle Thomas did: "My Lord and my God!" and worship your Creator Jesus: "All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made." And I hope you will be baptized in the one name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. (They have the same name). Jesus is King, but He is also God.

[@ip6310]

@@thomasfryxelius5526 And that name is Jesus right?

[@thomasfryxelius5526]

@@ip6310 God's name is JHWH, and in the greek it says we are to be baptized in the name (singular) of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

[@ip6310]

@@thomasfryxelius5526 Appreciate your response. Would you agree there are also other names used to reference God within the Bible? Would you also say that Peter got it completely wrong on the day of Pentecost, advising to 'be baptised in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins'? This of course is the same formula we see throughout the book of Acts and the rest of the New Testament. Pointing to the singular name you're referencing to be Jesus........

[@MeanMule]

God will bring you to your knees once. The world makes you live on your knees.

[@enrikefranco8725]

So when Jesus told the Pharisees ,” before Abraham was, I AM,” was that blasphemy? I feel blasphemous even considering that.

[@kerwinbrown4180]

He was saying before Abraham was made I am. Made 'what'? The Pharisees assumed made to exist but Scripture teaches us that Abraham was made the father of many nations. Jesus is just claiming to be the father of many nations in ascendancy to Abraham. "I am" is not a name in this context.

[@mattgardiner614]

"I AM" at John 8:58 is a mistranslation. Here the Greek e·goʹ ei·miʹ (usually rendered “I am” ) is NOT meant to be an allusion to the Septuagint rendering of Exodus 3:14. In the context of John 8:58, the action expressed by the Greek verb ei·miʹ started “before Abraham came into existence” and was still in progress. It is therefore properly translated “I have been” rather than “I am,” and a number of ancient and modern translations use wording similar to “I have been.” In fact, at John 14:9, the same form of ei·miʹ is used to render Jesus’ words: “Even after I HAVE BEEN with you men for such a long time, Philip, have you not come to know me?” (Other examples of rendering a present tense Greek verb using a present perfect tense verb are found at Luke 2:48; 13:7; 15:29; John 15:27; Acts 15:21; 2Corinthians 12:19; 1John 3:8.) I would also point out that verses 54 & 55 of John 8 clearly demonstrate that Jesus was not trying to portray himself as being the same person as the Father.

[@kerwinbrown4180]

@@mattgardiner614 You made a technical error and used past tense instead on continuous. The verb phrase is I am being or I have been being. Without doing research it it is probably the present continuous verb phase as it emphasizes the current state of Jesus being the chosen of God.

[@mattgardiner614]

@@kerwinbrown4180 Thanks for taking the time to reply. Whatever your personal position is on the Trinity, I totally agree that Jesus is the chosen of God.

[@kerwinbrown4180]

@@mattgardiner614 the Jews hearing Jesus would have the knowledge that Abraham was made the father of many nations. Jesus was referring to that event not Abraham's birth. It is implied.

[@alexf6206]

This concept of the God Head is deeply flawed. What the Trinity has coined as the God head is actually a redefining of the Term Elohim from scripture. Elohim refers to God but more specifically it refers to God's authority/majesty. Elohim is used to reference The Father but also extends to other entities such as Angels and human judges because these entities are supposed to carry the full will and authority of the Father. Therefore Jesus who fully wields the Authority of the Father can be called God. Jesus' will is united with the Father can referred to as God because he is made from the essence of the Father, is united in will and wields the total authority of the Father more so than any other Elohim excluding the Father Himself. Elohim is a term that we collapsed into the term we now call God. In reality Elohim is any entity acting upon the Will of the Father and if this can be applied to Angels and human servants then is can be applied to the Son of God. But Jesus being Elohim doesn't mean you worship Jesus. Jesus' sacrifice made our worship worthy of being heard by the Father, we do not pray to Jesus we pray through Jesus as he intercede for us he doesn't accept prayer on his own behalf. The trouble begins when you believe you may divide up these three and worship them separately. They are one divine will, one divine authority you may not separate the Son from the Father because without the Son your worship is tainted and unclean but you cannot pray to the Son because the Son serves the Father not himself. This idea that Jesus and the Father are co-equal and Co-eternal is nonsense. No Son is the age of their Father and no son comes into existence equal in anyway to their father.

[@2011victorhugo]

The greek word "latreuo" Is interesting.

[@fredrolinners8903]

Please explain why.

[@codyalexander3290]

Wasn’t Jesus called everlasting father?

[@nathanleelewis]

Yes, Cody--in relation to Jesus being the second Adam- the first Adam being the first human father of all humanity. The second Adam, Jesus, being the father of the new and restored humanity in the Kingdom of God. Even Trinitarian theologians do not equate the use of "everlasting father" in Isaiah 9 as meaning that Jesus IS Yahweh. Nathan 21stCR

[@fredrolinners8903]

Jesus is worshiped in that He is YHWH (Romans 10:13; cf. Joel 3:5 LXX).

[@mervyngouvias5748]

I have a question. If we still believe in the Shema. Christianity is a waste of time. Why don't we all just convert to Judaism? Remember, all humans are sinners. If Christ is not divine, his sacrifice is useless. Shalom.

[@irishclaudettelamdagan5796]

There's nothing in scriptures that say god should sacrifice himself for the sacrifice to be effective :)

[@kerwinbrown4180]

Worship Jesus as the people worshipped king David not as they worship God.

[@fredrolinners8903]

King David was not worshiped.

[@kerwinbrown4180]

@@fredrolinners8903 1 Chronicles 29:20 KJV translates the word to worship while others to homage.

[@fredrolinners8903]

@@kerwinbrown4180 It still doesn't mean David was worshiped. 1 and 2 Chronicles uses this construction, and it doesn't mean others besides God are worshiped. 1 Chronicles 29:20 worshipped the LORD, and their king. (KJV) 2 Chronicles 31:8 they blessed the LORD and His people Israel. (NASB) Blessing the Lord means offering Him worship, but that doesn't mean Hezekiah and the rulers rendered worship unto the people of Israel. 2 Chronicles 35:3 Now serve the LORD your God and His people Israel. (NASB) Josiah (cf. 2 Chronicles 35:1) did not mean that the service (worship) that ought to be given unto God was also to be done unto the people of Israel. In all three passages (1 Chronicles 29:20; 2 Chronicles 31:8, and 2 Chronicles 35:3) worship is only offered unto God. The others would receive the benefits of this worship.

[@kerwinbrown4180]

@@fredrolinners8903 As far as I can see Greeks used a word that can either be translated to worship or homage depending on context. When we are instructed to bow down to God only their is an infered context of "as God". The people were not worshipping David as God nor did they worship Jesus as God. They were acknowledging Jesus as king; the Christ.

[@fredrolinners8903]

@@kerwinbrown4180 Jesus was worshiped as being God in that He is the proper recipient of prayer (Acts 7:59).

[@kardiognostesministries8150]

The answer is "yes" - and this proves He is God.

[@acts2583]

I disagree - The answer is "Yes" but that doesn't at all prove that he is God. Those who are in trouble with God are the people who worship Jesus "as God." They are guilty of idolatry - making a man God.

[@kardiognostesministries8150]

@@acts2583 The Lord Jesus is to be prayed to as being YHWH (Romans 10:13; cf. Joel 2:32).

[@jimc747]

​@@kardiognostesministries8150 Jesus is lord and is our connection to God so by calling on the name Lord we are saved but you do not worship Jesus as God. They would have used Yahweh but they didn't they use lord.

[@jimc747]

​@@kardiognostesministries8150 Romans is talking about salvation not who to worship and I'm sick and tired of people taking things out of context.

[@jimc747]

​@@kardiognostesministries8150 and I'm also sick and tired of people taking Old testament wording and applying it to New testament that's not how it works. All translations to Lord in the Old testament refer to God and in the New testament refer to Jesus Christ not Jesus Christ being God but Jesus Christ being Lord and the son of God and our Shepherd to salvation for we lost connection with God and only through Jesus can we be saved. But everybody likes to twist and pervert the word to fit their narrative this guy's blatantly giving evidence left and right that they are two different people and although you can worship both you cannot worship Jesus as God open your eyes your ears and actually listen and read the Bible not one version but multiple versions multiple translations and stay away from NIV

[@approvedofGod]

If Jesus is not God, according to Unitarians, then he should not be worshipped at all. It is a lie to say that someone other than God can be worshipped. It is a mistake to teach that the kings or those in royalty were worshipped. People bowed to them in reverence, but not true worship (as to God). Roman Emperors required worship because they assumed the title of God. Of course, this was idolatry that God despised.

[@fredrolinners8903]

Excellent points.

[@approvedofGod]

@@fredrolinners8903 Thank you. I am making a video on this same subject, with this video.

[@animatednostalgia5034]

So when Jesus worshipped God, was he worshipping himself?

[@approvedofGod]

@@animatednostalgia5034 Give me a biblical example.

[@animatednostalgia5034]

@@approvedofGod John 4:21-22 KJV Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. [22] Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

[@Sirach144]

Why not those in the Bible did

[@sircassian5568]

GOD VIEWS JESUS AND ADAM AS THE SAME. ADAM DID NOT WITNESS THE RESULT OF HIS SIN BUT JESUS DID. JESUS HAD BEEN CREATED INNOCENT AS ADAM WAS. JESUS IS SAME AS ADAM WAS BEFORE THE APPLE...JESUS IS A PURE EXAMPLE FOR MAN BUT JESUS IS NO GOD.

[@fredrolinners8903]

Thomas referred to the Lord Jesus as "my God" in John 20:28. Can you?

[@mattgardiner614]

@@fredrolinners8903 This does not mean that Jesus is God. Many do claim that the original Greek requires that the words be viewed as being directed to Jesus. But even if this is so, the intent of the expression "my Lord and my God" is best understood in the context of the rest of the inspired Scriptures. Since the record shows that Jesus had previously sent his disciples the message, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God," there is no reason to believe that Thomas thought that Jesus was the almighty God. Thomas had heard Jesus pray to his "Father," calling him "the only true God." (Joh 17:1-3) So Thomas may have addressed Jesus as "my God" for the following reasons: He viewed Jesus as being "a god" though not the almighty God. Or he may have addressed Jesus in a manner similar to the way that servants of God addressed angelic messengers of Jehovah, as recorded in the Hebrew Scriptures. Thomas would have been familiar with accounts in which individuals, or at times the Bible writer, responded to or spoke of an angelic messenger as though he were Jehovah God. (Compare Genesis 16:7-11, 13; 18:1-5, 22-33; 32:24-30; Judges 6:11-15; 13:20-22.) Therefore, Thomas may have called Jesus “my God” in this sense, acknowledging Jesus as the representative and spokesman of the true God. (Luke 4:43; John 4:34; 5:30,36; 6:29,38,39,44; 12:49; Galatians 4:4, among others) It could also have simply been an expression of astonishment spoken to Jesus, but actually directed to his Father, God.

[@michaelspinner9881]

This guys whole argument falls apart if you just read Revelations chapter 5. In this chapter we see literally all of creation in heaven in earth things visible and invisible the things in the sea and under the earth (it goes into very specified language to include literally every created thing everywhere) give worship saying Holy Holy Holy and worthy of honor and power and glory be to the one who sits in the throne (The Father) & the Lamb (Jesus). So this guys whole argument falls apart with one chapter. All of creation gives the exact same worship to God the Father and the Lamb at the same time. John 5:23 says we are to honor the Son just as we honor the Father whoever does not do this does not honor the Father. How do we honor the Father? We honor the Father as God.

[@kardiognostesministries8150]

Excellent!

[@nicolejoseph5776]

ISRAEL/ THE REAL ISRAELITES, IS THE SON, THE FIRSTBORN, ACCORDING TO EXODUS 4: 21-24.

[@lizzard13666]

Yes they are! But the metaphor can be extended and used in other ways! In 2 Samuel 7:14 Yahweh tells David that David's descendant will be His "son", so this is a specific reference to a single human!

[@nicolejoseph5776]

@@lizzard13666 2 Samuel 7: 13-16 refers to David's son Salomon. V.13 is clear on this, since Salomon is the one who built God's temple. Read also 1 King 5: 5-6 about Salomon.

[@lizzard13666]

@@nicolejoseph5776 Oh, but is it really "clear" that this is Solomon? It never uses Solomon's name! Also, David doesn't seem to think it's about Solomon: 2 Samuel 7:19 (NASB95) ... You have spoken also of the house of Your servant concerning the distant future ... "Distant future" means very far away, not David's own child. David is considered a prophet you know? Also consider this fun connection in Proverbs: Proverbs 30:4b (NASB95) ... What is His name or His son’s name? Surely you know! The author of Proverbs wrote this JUST AFTER David's writings. So why does the author ask "What is His son's name?" ??? This clearly shows that writers at the time DID NOT consider Solomon to be the son from 2 Sam 7!

[@nicolejoseph5776]

@@lizzard13666 The Bible that we have has been manufactured by men to carry their own agenda "worshipping lucifer". Jesus is a prophet, a man, not God. He is not the only begotten son like the New Testament is portraying him. We, the Israelites, along with Yeshuah, and David, and whoever join us in the observance of the Commandments are The Most High's Children, according to Isaiah chap. 55 & 56. It is time that we open our eyes and stop worshipping a man, jesus. It is time that we Go back to the Almighty God, the true God of the Israelites.

[@lizzard13666]

@@nicolejoseph5776 Oh, I see why you are so resistant to Jesus! I don't think Jesus was God either! Jesus was God's son, in a similar way to how Adam was God's son. Then God raised Jesus from the dead and gave him eternal life. I think this is part of the reason Yahweh said He would be his Father, because He would give Jesus life, in a similar way to how a Father starts a family! But I do think the Tanakh tells us explicitly that Yahweh is going to send Jesus, and Jesus is going to be the Messiah! It's not just a later corruption, because in the Talmud, the Rabbis discuss this Messiah, which means they were expecting the Messiah based on Israelite traditions. They knew a lot about him in advance! Did you know that in Sukkah 52a they discuss Zechariah, and whether it says that the Messiah will die, or whether the "evil inclination" will die? They also briefly mention the "2 Messiahs" theory, did you know that they thought there would have to be 2 Messiahs? Messiah ben Joseph, who was prophesied to die. And Messiah be David, who was prophesied to reign forever! What's really interesting to me is that they got these three things from the Tanakh; Messiah would die, evil inclination would be defeated, Messiah would reign. No-one has or will fit this description better than Jesus! Not to mention all the prophecies in the Tanakh that point to Jesus!

[@nicolejoseph5776]

The Most High God is The Eternal God. He is the ONLY GOD, PERIOD!!! Jesus was created by the Romans to worship Lucifer. Lucifer, the bright morning star said in Isaiah ch. 14 that he will be ascended to heavens, he will be like God, just as jesus said in John ch. 14 that whoever sees him sees God. Satan is an angel of light. Jesus says that he is the light of the world. The world is full of darkness. We're deceived. The day is coming where we will know the truth. The Most High says in Isaiah ch. 42:8 "I am The Most High,......and I will not give my glory to another, nor my honor to idols".

[@7even171]

Hi Nicole, what denomination do you ascribe to connect in theology?

[@nicolejoseph5776]

@@7even171Hi, I don't have a denomination, since they're all man-made. I connect to The Most High through His Holy Scriptures in The Old Testament.

[@frednobles2485]

Jesus he is almighty God the New Testament says so over and over you know all the scriptures

[@ronaldpool3947]

Amen!

[@vincewhite5087]

Actually he is never called the Almighty God.

[@ronaldpool3947]

Hi Isaac Denny... Jn 3:16:For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. so think about Jn 3:16...for God so loved the world...that He did what? if we take the Unitarian position....how does an infinite God reveal any form of love by sending a 33 year old CREATURE? what makes you important to your Father Isaac is you are one of a kind...Jesus is ONE of a Kind, an only begotten Son of the Father... there is no love by sending one of the already 108 billion human creatures estimated to be born since Adam... where is the LOVE? in business, its called supply and demand... if you give a 33 year old human creature , one of the billions of other human creatures, is this really LOVE? is this how God really showed His LOVE? or Father and Son had lived since all of eternity...and Father sent His Son to die for us...for Jesus to be sent from heaven, he had to of preexisted. God didnt Create a 33 year old man....He sent His only begotten Son.... Gal 4:4-5: But when the fullness of the time had come, God """"sent forth His Son"""", born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, illustrate it this way...a Trillionaire accidentally burnt your home and farm animals every one of your belongings, memories etc....what did the Trillionare do in return? give you a dollar? If an Infinite God wants to show His love, He doesnt send one of His dollar bill 33 year old creations....He shows you how much He loves you by sending His only begotten son who since eternity has existed w the Father and the Spirit living in complete communion, loving one another....and For the Father to give up and break that intimate relationship since ETERNITY, now thats love!

[@ronaldpool3947]

@Isaac Brian Denny no problem, you can attack straw man as much as you want...what is the strawman? that we are catholics...im not catholic....but if this is your only argument....it only proves you cant defend your position, so you attack strawman,,, im not here to change your mind...even if I show you flat out the truth, you still dont accept it.. its not my work, its the Holy Spririts work....the real question is Isaac, do you love God enough to ask Him directly and every day brother?

[@ronaldpool3947]

@Isaac Brian Denny of course there is no God besides Him....why? because they are 1 in being and 3 persons.. explain this Heb 1:3:The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, Jesus is the exact representation of God's being? Phil 2:5-6:Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, they are 1 BEING GOD, and 3 seperate persons.... they are not a seperate God

[@d10srelish40]

I abhor paganism, therefore i detest Christianity .

[@hellisalie1138]

Believe as you like, in what makes sense to you, friend. Everyone does. I object only to the term paganism, but i believe raising objections was your goal. Atheism is understandable in circles which elevate science to a higher position than faith in the One God. I used to think the same thing, but never saw the need to denigrate faith. We're all just people trying to make sense of things. Have a good one, my friend.

[@redpill-eroftruth7443]

Angel Love, strong evidence there sister! I guess it helps to have a background in philosophy and logic! Praise the LORD! that is solid evidence.....

[@redpill-eroftruth7443]

@Isaac Brian Denny ok...im fake....you feel better? instead of trying to find a way out, why not just answer the points? I see....you cant answer therefore lets attack the character....thats convincing... truth not worth defending, truth not capable of defending, is not truth worth professing.....

[@redpill-eroftruth7443]

@Isaac Brian Dennystop!!!!! GET IT OUT OF YOU HEAD!!! THAT IM SOMEHOW AN ENEMY!!! that is not from God, that thinking is from the Devil....

[@redpill-eroftruth7443]

@Isaac Brian Denny Why dont you answer Angels argument for Jesus calling Himself the First and the Last...this is stronger evidence than Jesus flat out saying He is God. First and the Last is a supreme title of deity, God alone can use, this is what makes God, God right? if any random Creature can walk around to claim and be the "First and the Last" let alone, Jesus qualifying the statements! "I AM, I AM, I AM" the First and the Last....further emphasizing OWNERSHIP... you have 2 options...either 1)Jesus is blaspheming 2)Apostle John is blaspheming... try to answer Jesus making such claim to be the First and the Last, Ill listen to you brother...please get out of your head the Christians are attacking...im here to refine my theology...Christians never have the mindset to attack, even though our Doctrine of Jesus is attacked....

[@nicolejoseph5776]

David is the Messiah, not Jesus.

[@BR-ds3yl]

To David, Saul was the Messiah (the Lord’s anointed), however I recommended reading the beginning of Isaiah 11 that speaks of a coming righteous messiah after the days of Isaiah.