Should You Buy Slay The Spire: The Board Game?

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22 күн бұрын

Slay the Spire has long been one of Shut Up & Sit Down’s very favourite deckbuilders, so we were immediately intrigued by its new cardboard iteration - Slay The Spire: The Board Game. Will it work? Will it be fun? Will it be as good as the video game?
Tom’s got the answers. Well, he’s got his answers.
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@qwertytarr
@qwertytarr 20 күн бұрын
The venn-diagram of "people who watch board game reviews" and "people who have played slay the spire" is just a circle.
@MasterHigure
@MasterHigure 20 күн бұрын
A Venn diagram, by definition, must contain all possible combinations of overlap and non-overlap. Some regions may be labelled as empty, but they must be visible. You are thinking of an Euler diagram.
@scottclowe
@scottclowe 20 күн бұрын
I disagree. I think some people who play StS don't watch board game reviews!
@Morchunkis
@Morchunkis 20 күн бұрын
@@MasterHigureare you the fun police
@jonydude
@jonydude 20 күн бұрын
I haven't played Slay the Spire, but I'm probably the only one.
@fr0z3nskull
@fr0z3nskull 20 күн бұрын
@@jonydude I haven't played it either
@clarkewithe
@clarkewithe 20 күн бұрын
Now if only they could make a Balatro board game without me needing a graphing calculator
@dustinfreund5196
@dustinfreund5196 20 күн бұрын
That game is absolutely incredible.
@mistymysticsailboat
@mistymysticsailboat 20 күн бұрын
iirc the dev said it definitely wouldnt translate well to a board game for that reason
@SamFreelancePolice
@SamFreelancePolice 20 күн бұрын
Dipped in Mama Liz's chilli oil
@johncollins8511
@johncollins8511 20 күн бұрын
I wouldn't even entertain purchasing a physical copy of Balatro. That will stay comfortably on my steam deck. I will get the mobile version when that comes out though.
@WanderingWisp
@WanderingWisp 20 күн бұрын
Even if they somehow made one that worked, I would still stick with the video game for the sound alone. Not just the background track, but also the sound of your hand score going up. Something about it is just intensely satisfying.
@mrjasonchurch
@mrjasonchurch 20 күн бұрын
The only thing I'd add that wasn't talked about is the actual box storage and the quality of materials. You can tell they did not skimp out on this and I actually think it adds to the ease of setup, saving, and tear down that makes it so much less of a chore to play than other bigger games. Plus having a high quality storage solution (and card sleeves!) baked into the product is such a welcome change of pace compared to games like gloomhaven which almost require you to drop an extra $50+ on purchasing a third party storage solution.
@CardboardBones
@CardboardBones 20 күн бұрын
Yes! The storage is incredible! I play it solo, and often just one act at a time, and I'm shocked by how smooth it is to setup and tear down mid-run!
@Melancthon7332
@Melancthon7332 18 күн бұрын
Just having a game's cards already sleeved alone is AMAZING
@mariobrojr
@mariobrojr 18 күн бұрын
It's not just the card but all the tokens and charecter boards I played with 3 big time board game players all completed the quality of the product And we all had fun playing it
@oscaranderson5719
@oscaranderson5719 16 күн бұрын
I’ve played both, Slay the Spire is stupidly high quality and it fits back in the box without raising the lid height, everything fits into its own little box or divider. the fancy edition comes with metal coins and it’s absolutely worth it, they’ve got such a great feel and weight to them.
@TheBunnyWizard
@TheBunnyWizard 15 күн бұрын
Are there extra sleeves? I hate when games come with sleeves, one or two rip and now i have to use my own anyway (paperback adventures)
@danidm5820
@danidm5820 20 күн бұрын
The most decisive statement Tom made about the Slay the Spire board game is that I shouldn't play the Bloodborne board game. 10/10, no notes.
@BreakRaven
@BreakRaven 20 күн бұрын
Or the Original Sin board game :(.
@anjinmr
@anjinmr 20 күн бұрын
He's correct about that.
@MrSomebunny
@MrSomebunny 20 күн бұрын
Yeah, but that’s true of just about every Kickstarter game with tons of minis: None should be played. People buy them for the minis and try REALLY hard to like the very bad game the minis ship with as justification for their $500 purchase.
@Ytilee
@Ytilee 20 күн бұрын
That he, in fact, didn't play btw.
@nargris4048
@nargris4048 20 күн бұрын
I rather enjoyed the Bloodborne boardgame, though I agree didn't need to be a mini based game. The dark souls boardgame on the other hand though, thats a rough one. It tried staying too close to the video game experience and well, lets just say there is a difference between grinding levels a video game and grinding levels in a board game...
@lordhed
@lordhed 20 күн бұрын
I loved how when Tom discussed the price, the StS shop theme started playing in the background. Nice little touches.
@Ulubai
@Ulubai 8 күн бұрын
When he brings up divinity the theme starts playing for that too
@davidsobieralski8311
@davidsobieralski8311 20 күн бұрын
I think what is easy to miss is people have play groups that have no interest and/or time to play computer games. I have had 2 couples tell me this is the best game I have taught them period over the last 10 years. Yes the computer game is good, but this can live in a space much different than the computer game and introduce people who have never heard of slay the spire to a great game.
@VaultBoy13
@VaultBoy13 19 күн бұрын
But, it's also an odd "introduce people" game, because of the price. I realize it's a good system, because the video game is a good system. But, it's also something that if your non-video gamer friends like it, then they'll likely scoff at the price when looking to buy their own copy. I think the game sits more in a realm for fans of the video game that want to expand the game to a cooperative experience. There's nothing wrong with that. But, is it worth the price of admission? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@davidsobieralski8311
@davidsobieralski8311 18 күн бұрын
@@VaultBoy13 100 percent yes.
@hugmonger
@hugmonger 18 күн бұрын
Im someone who loves Slay the Spire and social gaming and this game seems perfect for me and no... I refuse to be normal about it. Like the moment I get it it goes with me everywhere and I WILL make you play it with me, I can play any class trust me Ironclad is easy please stop looking like you want to run away
@mariobrojr
@mariobrojr 18 күн бұрын
If that couple he showed the game to, are like the couple I showed it to, they alredy have a board game collection and know the price for one of this size And will buy it for themselves
@khariperkins4243
@khariperkins4243 16 күн бұрын
StS has mid round saving Bruv. People just don't like technology more so than lack of time. A full ass unboxing of a board game is way harder than turning on StS and playing a few cards saving and exiting.
@paulclayton3117
@paulclayton3117 20 күн бұрын
I've owned this for about a month now. I've played with my main group (4 board game nerds in our 30s/40s) and we love it. We stopped playing Gloomhaven a while ago because the admin was too much and we immediately recognised the same feel here with much lower time overheads. I've played with other friends and their kids - it's really easy to teach and learn. But mostly I've played with my own kids (age 8 and 6) and for this it is wonderful. Like a lot of young kids, my 6-year-old doesn't like to lose, so collaborative games are the best way to get him to the table. They've both learned card game basics through stuff like Pokemon TCG and so this is a breeze for them. They've declared Fridays after school to be 'Slay the Spire campaign time', and they've also started a separate campaign without me (they just did this with no supervision at all). For a nerdy family, this really does fall into perfect sweet spot - they recognise it from their computer games so they're excited, the game play is easy to learn with a nice curve, and all the components are really high quality so they want to play with them. I think part of its success is the high frequency rewards - you don't have to wait very long to get something new (unlike say Gloomhaven where levelling up takes ages). Anything that helps my kids choose to put their screens down is a winner for me.
@jeffreygenehk
@jeffreygenehk 14 күн бұрын
Same here - my 8yo would play it every day after school if I'd let him. 7yo joins in on occasion. Cooperative element is huge.
@TinkerTownGames
@TinkerTownGames 12 күн бұрын
Yes, I agree this is the best family game with kids.
@sirloinofchateaumarinade9312
@sirloinofchateaumarinade9312 Күн бұрын
Do apps and support for Gloomhaven ever enough to run games smoothly? I'm sitting on a full Gloomhaven collection and the sheer amount of material and things to learn has me paralysed between wanting to dedicate the hours to even play and just selling the game to play on steam even though you lose the physical feel.
@ChemistGeometric
@ChemistGeometric 20 күн бұрын
To be fair, maxing damage at the expense of blocking is a major thing in the digital game, too.
@hannahvickery4683
@hannahvickery4683 17 күн бұрын
all shadow priests know that the best defense is more dps!
@oscaranderson5719
@oscaranderson5719 16 күн бұрын
StS sheeple: “Health is a resource, so it’s important to mitigate damage as much as possible.” me, an intellectual: “they can’t deal 30x5 damage if they’re dead”
@Tom-vx7qh
@Tom-vx7qh 16 күн бұрын
​@@oscaranderson5719"Health is a resource, so I choose to spend some of that resource now, so I wont have to spend more of it later"
@janus1172
@janus1172 14 күн бұрын
There’s often the joke in the community for the video game that X attack card is a block card. I’ve actually found I need to think about block more in the board game than in the video game especially at higher ascensions.
@oscaranderson5719
@oscaranderson5719 14 күн бұрын
@@janus1172 I’m only on ascension one but I’ve found you can kiiinda get away with one person being the designated block biii- _buddy_ which lets others focus on wombo combos with some free/cheap blocks thrown in, ‘cuz if you can clear a row it frees them up to focus on damage. otherwise in video game format I prefer pure skill/defense focus ‘cuz it’s the most consistent (once you get past gremlin nob :P)
@michaelavail3554
@michaelavail3554 20 күн бұрын
i’m definitely not the target audience because I’m a minority, but I am visually impaired in such a way that I can’t really play video games, but board games are accessible to me so my partner was very excited when this board game came out because he’s a huge fan of the video game and wanted to share it with me. This game is amazing and very fun and I’m super glad that it exists.
@Spinax33
@Spinax33 20 күн бұрын
Its funny that the target for the "Bloated Kickstarter game thats underbaked" was Bloodborne, one of the better examples of that genre, when Dark Souls is *right there*. More boxes, more cost, more bloat and an abject failure in adapting the games mechanics to the tabletop in almost every regard.
@Bodyknock
@Bodyknock 20 күн бұрын
This game is great, it went over extremely well with my game group and it even plays well solo. In fact one of my friends said he wasn't all that much into the video game but loved this physical game because of how the multiplayer simultaneous play works. So my TLDR is, if you'd like to play Slay the Spire multiplayer around the table, and are willing to splurge, this is fantastic. If you just play solo boardgames then there's no need for the physical board game, just play the video game solo.
@CardboardBones
@CardboardBones 20 күн бұрын
I've been playing it solo so far, and have personally been loving it. I can understand the argument that I should just play the video game instead, but I find the physicality of the game to be so much more appealing when I'm trying to relax before bed. I don't mean to say that you *shouldn't* play the video game, but rather, I feel there is genuine value out of the solo play experience (if the price tag isn't an issue)
@Achtikun
@Achtikun 16 күн бұрын
I have played it with 3 different groups now, and after playing it, every person that did not own it already, has bought the pc game after the session. It really shows that it is a good game even for people that did not know the pc game. Also it is really addicting and they could not wait for our next session.
@julianarchy9043
@julianarchy9043 20 күн бұрын
haven't watched the video yet, but as someone who backed it and got my copy a week ago I've been LOVING IT
@jackolchawski4310
@jackolchawski4310 20 күн бұрын
I think this is a typically excellent review from Tom. The only thing I’d contest, is that as the resident boardgame enthusiast among my closest pals, there’s no way I could coax my friends over for a collective game of STS the videogame, but I already have plans to do that with STS The Boardgame. So the coop element of it really is something novel about the physical version for me personally.
@jeffreygenehk
@jeffreygenehk 13 күн бұрын
It's like holding a prop from a movie in your hands - exactly how I felt unboxing it.
@adriannaoshea
@adriannaoshea 19 күн бұрын
I agree with pretty much everything, but the price feels reasonable for the quality and quantity of componenets. The insert does wonders to facilitate gameplay and make saving your progress easier. The sleeves feel like they will hold up well to all the required shuffling and flipping. The cutouts in the player board are layered to hold your bits. The shop board doubles as the much needed player aid sheet. Physically randomizing the maps feels so good. I think all that adds up to be worth the price and I don't plan to stop playing the video game either.
@riccardomosena4162
@riccardomosena4162 17 күн бұрын
And don't forget about the mats for each character (and the extra things for the Kickstarter exclusive like metal coins)
@belicose9
@belicose9 19 күн бұрын
I’ve got 400+ hours in the video game and I think I have some insight into this gripe. Very often in the game you get encounters that are basically just insta-win. Then, mere moments later, you have another encounter that destroys you utterly. This incredible swing in difficulty is mainly due to the fact that different encounters challenge your deck in different ways. Some are damage races while others are battles of attrition. Depending on what your deck does well, you might see a wild variance in the difficulty from encounter to encounter. Yes, it does make some encounters less interesting than others but easily won rewards are often a God-send after getting toasted the previous fight. In the Spire, I find it is best to go with the flow and accept both ease and difficulty equally.
@skuamato7886
@skuamato7886 16 күн бұрын
Yep, that's my experience with SPS (the PC game) as well. You usually don't get "whittled down" by multiple encounters in a row, you just end up meeting the one encounter you are not prepared for and just die. And that's exactly what happened to me in the board game. So 10/10 preserving that experience
@socialcockroach3307
@socialcockroach3307 6 күн бұрын
Exactly. Sometimes you leave act 1 with the rough outline of a Power deck with the Defect, took philosopher stone and your biggest hitting card was unfortunately Melter. Of course the first encounter is Byrds. Sometimes you run into the Byrds as the Silent and you have Bronze Scales, Caltrops, and Piercing Wail in a shiv deck. And next encounter is Sentinel and the ball. Now the decks trade places in their value. Then they run into Snake Plant and both hate life. Seriously. Fuck Snake Plant.
@CardboardBones
@CardboardBones 20 күн бұрын
I've been playing the StS board game solo, and have been loving the flow of the game. It's surprisingly easy to setup and "save"/tear down. While I agree that there are moments of just smooth admin as you don't really fear the current encounter, that is also a physical flow state that I enjoy. I love the og StS game, but I find myself not going to it anymore when Im in the mood to play a videogame. However, having an evening where I get drink tea, listen to barber beats, and shuffle some cards as I play a game I deeply love is a delightful experience. The StS board game is a love letter, in my opinion. It's a game I will always cherish, even when I inevitably stop playing it for a long period of time. Thank you, Megacrit, for creating such a wonderful experience.
@Waltztacular
@Waltztacular 17 күн бұрын
I got the chance to interview the lead designer of the board game for my podcast! The way he spoke about it cemented for me my choice to back it, and it made perfect Sense that the game turned out so well. The reverence he and the team have for the original and their dedication to making this more then "sts physically" but also give it a reason to exist set them up for a slam dunk. I'm thrilled that this was not only made, but was so impressively well done
@fagelhd
@fagelhd Күн бұрын
Hey, I'd love to listen to the episode. How is your podcast called? :)
@Merlandese
@Merlandese 18 күн бұрын
Talking about playing Slay on a TV together is an underrated pseudo-genre. I've often talked about games like Immortality and Obra Dinn as "multiplayer one-player games" because, as much fun as they are when played alone, they are excellent in a small group with one person handling the controls like the driver on a road trip.
@hugmonger
@hugmonger 18 күн бұрын
Social Couch Gaming is such a good way to play games. Stellaris and Civilization are great video games to get stuck in on with friends and like "Okay whenever we make a science decision we will discuss, but you get final say on science, and she gets military, and I get diplomacy" or something.
@skwerrul6516
@skwerrul6516 18 күн бұрын
Yes! This is probably my favorite way to experience video games right now, and Obra Dinn is the perfect example of it. I've played slay the spire like that on a few occasions with a friend, but it also games like portal and supraland work very well. I generally don't play video games as much as my friends, so it gives me the chance to be involved without requiring skill or any particular focus.
@TheMirksta
@TheMirksta 9 күн бұрын
Not even just irl, streaming these games in a discord with a friend or two is just really fun.
@Rincewindl
@Rincewindl 20 күн бұрын
i do have to say, as much as i wish there was more player interaction aside from "i can give you block" and "i can kill that guy for you" given the LENGTH of the sessions, im ok with it. also i want to say. oddly enough, this game works really well for me as an intro game. StS is already insanely well balanced so, i've never had complaints about it from anyone
@draze2296
@draze2296 7 күн бұрын
8:22 "You've got a valuable vulnerable that'll double damage but nothing strong to pair with it, but the player sat next to you has a bonkers attack that will now wipe that greasy goblin off the face of the earth". Proceeds to show an attack combo that applies vulnerable anyway.
@Erekai
@Erekai 15 күн бұрын
I love that you covered all the foibles of how Video Game Board Game adaptations (both ways) sort of fall flat, because I've felt that way for a long long time, but you put it in a way I never could seem to. For this reason, I pass on nearly every single board game that was adapted from a video game, because I've yet to find one that really scratches the same itch as the video game.
@cdouglas6
@cdouglas6 20 күн бұрын
love that you put the marketplace music during the Value conversation.
@PatrickBrophy
@PatrickBrophy 20 күн бұрын
I went all-in on the Kickstarter because I revere the video game as an all time great. Having a physical manifestation of one of the greatest games ever was reason enough for me. But then I played it cooperatively with my friends (half with StS experience) and it was such a delight. I’m looking forward to playing it again and again more as a co-op, as it adds that other dimension the video game just can’t do.
@NapnCat
@NapnCat 7 күн бұрын
The fact you included the Ludwig, The Holy Blade OST at 7:36 is an instant sub for me. Also love STS and board games, glad to have found your content!
@wookiebarista
@wookiebarista 19 күн бұрын
This is a lovely game for hosting those who have never played STS and most likely won't. Being able to give simple group prompts and watch the light bulbs turn on as people get the rush of learning the beautiful systems of it is why you buy this. Try it out with some newbs Tom!
@alquosfinn2980
@alquosfinn2980 20 күн бұрын
Bloodborne the boardgame was mentioned and shrugged off. I love that game and I would love a SUSD review of it. Admittedly, some of the expansion missions are borderline unplayable, but its the best dungeon crawler I've ever played!
@adamevaskevich5528
@adamevaskevich5528 10 күн бұрын
I have put well over 2000 hours in Slay the Spire, and when I heard that Mega Crit was making this, I didn't even read the game before buying the Neow Tier for the sake of just supporting them, but after getting it, my Friends and I enjoy it more than playing the game on the computer, and I do want to get around to trying a solo run even though I own the game since the small changes are fun to mess around with. It's well worth it for me, but as you said, you have to come to that conclusion on your own
@fabe61
@fabe61 15 күн бұрын
Only issue I have with the idea of spending so much on the board game to get that cooperative feel is the fact that there is a free mod for the computer game called ‘Spire with Friends’ that lets you do cooperative runs and it’s pretty well made. I think this board game looks great for a very small niche, but it is a very small niche who will get their money’s worth out of it
@MrMurkosullivan
@MrMurkosullivan 20 күн бұрын
Yo Tom! Long time viewer. Love your reviews. Hope you don't mind me leaving a tiny tip for future videos. In particular I found when you were discussing the admin of moving cubes through easy combats, and how thats irritating... I would have loved either B footage of that happening or you doing a rough simulation of one as you spoke. (easier said than done I know). This review was incredible. Just a tiny thing that occurred to me. Hopefully it might be helpful.
@owenduffy5745
@owenduffy5745 13 күн бұрын
The 4 player CO-OP is what sold me. Thanks!
@IRules2244
@IRules2244 15 күн бұрын
I played on TTS (I know, I’m sorry) and I really liked the idea that you are also learning the deck of your friends. You don’t have any control over it, but you start to learn what their cards do. I get excited when my friend says “I got corruption”. It also gives me the feeling of when I was young and we all talked about what trading cards we got in the latest pack our moms bought us.
@DLAsmash
@DLAsmash 8 күн бұрын
I agree with basically everything, but speaking as someone who maxed out ascension 20 on all characters on two different platforms (Switch and Android) - I want to emphasize how good of a job they did of not just adapting the game mechanics to work on tabletop, but also using the opportunity to improve how certain cards/mechanics play when they did need to make changes. Take Silent for example: Shivs are now tokens instead of cards. A logical and unobtrusive change in and of itself, which doesn't heavily change how the deck is played. But with this change they saw an opportunity to tweak several of Silent's more boring/underwhelming cards: - Slice: now deals extra damage if you have at least one shiv prepared - Riddle with Holes: Instead of a generic multi-hit attack, it's now a more expensive Blade Dance that gives you more shivs, making it easier to build a shiv deck instead of banking it all on finding the Blade Dances - Storm of Steel: discard ANY number of cards and get a shiv for each one discarded. No longer forces you to awkwardly discard your whole hand, effectively ending your turn in most cases after shivs are played - Unload: Instead of awkwardly making you discard all non-attacks, it now damages and plays all of the shivs you have with extra damage on each Plenty of examples of this tasteful rebalancing on every character, bolstering the new mechanics while keeping the stuff people love mostly untouched. The video game will always have its place; but pound for pound, if they translated this version back into video game format, I'd rather play this version than the OG because they did such a good job with the balance changes.
@xCriticalStrikex
@xCriticalStrikex 20 күн бұрын
This game deserves an immediate seal of approval, it is so good! I have had it on my table since I got it for 46h and 34m already and only beaten the heart once and have not done a single level yet of ascension difficulty. Absolutely worth the cost and I am going to play so many more hours of this and with people who went and bought slay the spire immediately after one play! Everyone seems to love this regardless to if they have played the video game or not! Also to add to your list of fail video game adaptations with swimming pools full of plastic, there is Monster Hunter world which is quite sub par :(
@dksocal
@dksocal 20 күн бұрын
“English social anxiety vs airhorn” is my new favorite KZbin genre.
@zephusdragon
@zephusdragon 20 күн бұрын
As a backer, as well as a huge fan of Slay the Spire, I must say the best part is exactly holding the cards in your hand. I'm one of those gamers whose favorite part is setting up the box so that you can play it for the first time, and I loved every moment of it. The interest of learning how different systems work in this iteration as opposed to the video game is also a fair point to make. I just add that if you are going to get this game, splurge for the collector's edition. Those mats for each character just feel really good, and make a great zone of control for what you are doing. The Spire awaits!
@skyelarsen8172
@skyelarsen8172 20 күн бұрын
Hey Ascension 12 buddies! I definitely want to try this one out some time, but I could see the "co-op couching" digital experience being my jam as well.
@nanho5201
@nanho5201 16 күн бұрын
We are on our second run. First one was with three players, this run with 4. We love it and think it's well worth the price. As well as love how saving is added into the game between acts. The save feature works so well for our group
@Jovanny_pcpp
@Jovanny_pcpp 20 күн бұрын
I have to disagree with literally every negative point Tom said I never played slay the spire the video game and bought the boardgame solely because people said the game was good Yeah, it's more than the game, but it's the most premium experience I've ever owned And since I bought it, it has literally been the only board game I play now It is the only game in my entire collection of almost 100 boardgames that I would consider a perfect 10/10
@brandandixon3943
@brandandixon3943 13 күн бұрын
Then why not play the online game?
@Jovanny_pcpp
@Jovanny_pcpp 13 күн бұрын
@@brandandixon3943 I never said don't play the online game I just like the physical one
@MiceInDownpour
@MiceInDownpour 20 күн бұрын
I was so sceptical of this game. But after having played it almost every evening for three consecutive weeks - I absolutely love it and it's the kind of game I have been waiting for years to be created. It's exactly as Tom stated (imo) - if you think you'd like this game, you'll probably like it (very much)
@DrDankPhD
@DrDankPhD 20 күн бұрын
I think one of the most interesting things will be going forward if they're going to make expansions for the boardgame that play up the specific strengths of the coop experience. New characters and cards that are designed specifically for play with other players could really put the game over the top, for example Ironclad could have cards that combo off of poison damage.
@RandomProduct
@RandomProduct 20 күн бұрын
As someone who has all but two Bloodborne expansions, I can confirm, it's too much board game It's also a hell of a lot of fun painting all 216 minis
@TheSagFro
@TheSagFro 10 күн бұрын
Amazing review in so many ways, love the mature and down to earth approach
@Sihoiba
@Sihoiba 19 күн бұрын
The editting of this video is excellent. Also the doom shotgun sound making another return.
@ryanwest4106
@ryanwest4106 20 күн бұрын
love the silent approval of the mysterious ghostly Hat Person in the reflection of one of the last shots. what do you know, Hat Person? when will you tell us?
@CosmoVibe
@CosmoVibe 20 күн бұрын
Excellent review. Just wanted to point out that yet another (maybe somewhat niche reason) to get this is if you have friends who are familiar with Slay the Spire, but have little experience with "large" board games. This is a great way to ease some of the anxieties of feeling like a large board game box is intimidating, obtuse, or heavy.
@geegnomes
@geegnomes 19 күн бұрын
I played on TTS and enjoyed the game, but your comments were spot on. Additionally: -Changes from ascension to ascension felt too small for the stripped down mechanics. We jumped 5 ascensions each time. -Feels like the game has a lifespan of about 4-5 runs for me. -Not worth the price for only a few plays to me, but I'd pay anything for the exclusive beta art cards, they are perfection
@tipulsar85
@tipulsar85 20 күн бұрын
So here's the thing. There are GOOD adaptations of Digital to physical, if you look hard. Most people these days don't realize that M.U.L.E. started as a digital board game, because there was 32 years between the original game and the Board Game. It also did its best to obfuscate the timer by combining it with the player's food supply which was barely there in digital form. The only downside was the loss of the iconic theme tune.
@paulleins7809
@paulleins7809 20 күн бұрын
The Bloodborne board game is actually really good
@Dantevonlocke
@Dantevonlocke 20 күн бұрын
I agree. Does it have issues with the translation to a physical game? Yes. But it captures the spirit of the stamina and trick weapons as your hunter deals with growing monstrosities.
@josephfraley1205
@josephfraley1205 19 күн бұрын
Part of the amazing design is how your deck this run can destroy some enemies while barely making it through others.
@marvinko6610
@marvinko6610 3 күн бұрын
An underrated selling point is that this is a great co-op campaign game for newer or casual players. I beat it with my girlfriend, her sister and her mum over the course of 2 days. The teach was a breeze and we’re planning to do it again next month. I was able to take a backseat and just play my character because everyone else understood theirs almost instantly after revealing 2-3 sets of card rewards. Yeah it’s freaking expensive but if you have ever sleeved a game with many cards, you know where the bulk of the price comes from. That being said, the sleeves are among the best I’ve ever had. So you’re getting quality
@noonoox12
@noonoox12 16 күн бұрын
Great video as always!!! I lobe all ur vids :3
@nicograsso3907
@nicograsso3907 17 күн бұрын
There is also a co-op mod for STS called spire with friends that I'll admit feel like the cod zombie kinda co-op but is still an option to have everyone climbing the spire while doing their own thing
@mikev8253
@mikev8253 19 күн бұрын
I've played over 600 hours on Steam and mobile. I was skeptical and agree with most of what Tom says. The only positive I would add is the thing I never saw coming...it felt like i was rediscovering the game for the first time again. I got that same "oh this card would work really well with X" feeling because of the minor tweaks some of the cards got. It made me start choosing cards i would normally ignore just to see how strong the synergy would go. Also, this game kills any tabletop rpg for me because all I want to do is increase my stats, deck, or abilities. This does it every few minutes. Something like Gloomhaven takes 4 hours just to give you a checkmark (but you still need 1 or 2 more to increase that stat).
@ralphtedesco7289
@ralphtedesco7289 20 күн бұрын
Played a lot of both. Love the board game as well... Currently working my way up the ascension ladder.. And the challenge is real... Runs end half way thru act 1 at times...
@AlasdairMacKinnon
@AlasdairMacKinnon 17 күн бұрын
I'm in the (probably very limited) demographic of people who have played videogames since the 80s. Sadly, between work and gaming, I have various wrist and hand issues that now make videogaming not worth the pain. However, I got into boardgaming a few years back and, when they're well made, I love to play boardgame conversions of videogames. I recently received my copy of Slay the Spire and it's now set up on my dining table (where it takes up a surprising amount of space). I'm off to start learning how to play it right now. Wish me luck!
@DAmaster07
@DAmaster07 16 күн бұрын
Great review! Watching you explain the game, I think I would come to the exact same conclusion. Love the video game, but do I need the board game version…I’ll think about it lol.
@Derfischlebtnoch
@Derfischlebtnoch 20 күн бұрын
Hi Tom, Just for the super rare case you have never heard of that game: Please play PEGLIN. You will love it. Its Deckbuilding, kind of. and somewhere in the sphere of slay the spire and balatro :)
@williammoriarity7411
@williammoriarity7411 20 күн бұрын
I've played the StS board game (but not the video game). The reason being able to block for your teammates isn't immediately available is because it's more satisfying to build your deck with that goal.
@nargris4048
@nargris4048 20 күн бұрын
On the mention of the bloodborne boardgame. I own it and all the expansions, it is a great game and I love how they handled it gameplay wise but I agree with the sea of plastic thing. It's CMoN so a sea of plastic is kind of expected, but the minis could have all been standies (or even counters) and the game would have been just as good.
@skwerrul6516
@skwerrul6516 18 күн бұрын
I kickstart funded this as soon as i heard of it and, after receiving it recently, have spent three lovely evenings playing it with my friends. For a long time we've talked about playing board games together because we all like the idea of tabletop games, but this is the first one that has captured our collective attention so well. I highly recommend!
@Gnomable
@Gnomable 7 күн бұрын
Playing "Slay the Spire" co op sounds like a blast but I don't think I'm up for the admin of it in board game form.
@eveningchaos1
@eveningchaos1 20 күн бұрын
You can also just play with your friends on TTS and bring it full circle.
@the_verTigO
@the_verTigO 20 күн бұрын
There even is a boardgame mod for the videogame.
@FallenRaven
@FallenRaven 20 күн бұрын
I regret not backing this because I’ve never heard of the game until I started seeing the campaign for its board game port. I started playing Slay the Spire on my phone out of curiosity and had so much fun. Now seeing all these praise of its board game counterpart just makes me want to own and play it, and share the experience with friends.
@EgeveDunyasi
@EgeveDunyasi 20 күн бұрын
Bloodborne is a good adaptation of a fantastic video game. AND… a superb collector’s edition for people who love the video game. So all those plastic miniatures have value. And now you owe us a Bloodborne review sir!
@CrabeVideos
@CrabeVideos 20 күн бұрын
Grest review and I mostly agree, except this will definitely be in my rotation. I love Slay the Spire and the devs did an amazing job with the adaptation. Haven't played on the higher ascensions yet, but I think that would help with the "admin" complaint because it should make breezing through harder. I feel like the designers threaded an impossible needle making an adaptation this good, the only downside for me is the price but you see every bit of it in the box.
@jonydude
@jonydude 20 күн бұрын
I feel exactly the same way about Through The Ages. Great table hogging game and jolly good time all round, but now that there's the app... I got rid of my copy. Even if four of us were at a board game convention with an empty table of the perfect size for us to all sit around, I'd MUCH rather just pass and play on my phone before setting up that beast. If the app didn't exist, sure, I'll play it again. But it does, so I won't.
@jothamsmith2658
@jothamsmith2658 20 күн бұрын
I donated a pound to the Kickstarter and didn't end up picking up a copy. It was just a bit too expensive for me. I am glad to hear it works well though!
@naggl3s
@naggl3s 8 күн бұрын
For me, I'm the only one in my friend group who has played StS, so getting the board game for me is introducing my friends to the game while also having a fun co-op experience. I love the video game, so this is a way to make my friends try it out in a way that they don't commit anything but time (because for some reason every time I say buy StS, they don't).
@YoJesusMorales
@YoJesusMorales 19 күн бұрын
So scared to hit that air horn, I know the feeling, lol.
@Jessie_Helms
@Jessie_Helms 17 күн бұрын
The video game is the only thing that kept me sane during a 6 month period where I didn’t have an internet connection.
@timothycorsello2480
@timothycorsello2480 20 күн бұрын
4:03 I love my switch but all my hours are in the android version! You should mention that because the phone version is a fantastic adaptation, it makes 0 sacrifices
@draider8112
@draider8112 14 күн бұрын
The fear of the self tooted air horn was so real and so relatable.😂
@Snorehog
@Snorehog 20 күн бұрын
The cards being redesigned for a board game actually sometimes change them quite a lot (even if they have the same art), which then brings new synergies to explore. Haven’t played enough yet but sometimes I even think they balanced the cards better, e.g. Going from a must pick to the more interesting ”sometimes” pick.
@daniellebackus819
@daniellebackus819 19 күн бұрын
I was also very skeptical of this game (love the video game!), but glad to hear multiple sources saying it’s good. My husband and I have actually been really enjoying the Divinity Original Sin board game. Tom mentions it requiring a bunch of admin, but I don’t understand that. It’s quite simple, especially for someone who plays a lot of Gloom/Frosthaven. Those games require a TON of admin, to the point where I don’t find them all that enjoyable anymore, but DOS the boardgame is very simple to run. Setup is very quick as well. The deckbuilding takes a while, but that’s part of the fun! Looking through all the possible skills and picking/re-speccing your characters is super fun.
@GrimGrimmirg
@GrimGrimmirg 19 күн бұрын
I work as a person who need to watch a screen for 8h+. As much as I love StS video game having opportunity to play physical copy after work feels just so much better :D Another thing is that my wife doesn't play video games so she wouldn't otherwise experience such a brilliant deck builder :)
@mariobrojr
@mariobrojr 18 күн бұрын
A good reason to get it, is for a friend who didn't wanna play the video game (for one reason or another), but who's favorite board game genera us co-op. Yea they loved it so much, they are going to buy a copy for thier collection
@carpemkarzi
@carpemkarzi 20 күн бұрын
Welp, made me want to play slay the spire on comp. Thank you
@David42424242
@David42424242 20 күн бұрын
very nice honest and informative review
@mchagawa1615
@mchagawa1615 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for the review! Got a friend who loves the video game :)
@philomorph7
@philomorph7 19 күн бұрын
"Doing maximum murder" is not only a great turn of phrase, but is also some of the best advice in many co-op games, including Gloomhaven. Depending on the situation of course, it seems like a lot of co-op board games that involve fighting monsters end up being mostly about this, with other strategies like "blocking" being a second-best option. This doesn't make me love Gloomhaven any less :) The difference there is maybe that you really have to cooperate to do maximum murder. It sounds like the synergies in the Slay the Spire board game aren't as common for this.
@kurnte
@kurnte 20 күн бұрын
Slay The Spire is literally my fav game ever. I was expecting your review of this! Thank you and I’m happy that it didn’t disappoint
@thatkaiguy
@thatkaiguy 20 күн бұрын
This video makes me want to play Mage Knight.
@mfa7618
@mfa7618 18 күн бұрын
Now you’ve made me want to go back and play slay the spire on my PC again.
@TheUglyGoblin
@TheUglyGoblin 15 күн бұрын
A brilliant video! My partner and I adore the video game. So cool to get such an honest and thorough review. You got a sub from me :3
@ClaudeAndTaylor
@ClaudeAndTaylor 20 күн бұрын
Sensational video as always! Perfectly stated!!
@devtheguy
@devtheguy 20 күн бұрын
I know it’s likely not in your radar at all, but I would love it if you checked out and subsequently shared your thoughts on Northgard and its spin-off board game, Northgard: Uncharted Lands. I’m not sure the game’s necessarily up to the quality of games you normally cover. I think it’s generally quite good, but I haven’t been able to run it through the full paces and worry it might not live up to repeated plays. But I think it does do exactly what I want a board game based on a video game to do. It takes elements from the video game and recreates them in a board game but in a distinctly board game-like fashion. It’s inspired by the video game, sure, but it’s also heavily inspired by games such as Dominion, Carcassone, and tactical war games. And it’s willing to jettison core elements of the video game to do so. It may not be a perfect game, but it’s certainly an interesting one. Unlike games that try to emulate the video game exactly or simply lean on brand recognition, Northgard: Uncharted Lands feels like it has a reason to exist and a design angle that would have been unexplored without it.
@Mar3eck
@Mar3eck 12 күн бұрын
If you've never tried it before please check out the coop mod for slay the spire, its online not local but adds a really cool way to go through the game with others
@andy_-_21
@andy_-_21 15 күн бұрын
I have played this game for a bit and would disagree on the point at 10:41 . The starter defends are changed to block any player for 2 rather than yourself for 1 if you upgrade them. I’ve also had it when I’m the silent and just blocking everyone’s damage as long as they kill my creatures and it has worked very well. It’s impressive how they managed to balance the entire game yet keep some infinite combos.
@JohnGottschalk
@JohnGottschalk 20 күн бұрын
You can also download multiplayer mods for Slay the Spire, although it's more like parallel play then co-op.
@kikismusic9216
@kikismusic9216 20 күн бұрын
In time with The Dice Tower upload?? Wow!
@davetalbert8387
@davetalbert8387 20 күн бұрын
The music made me laugh out loud.
@martinkremer412
@martinkremer412 20 күн бұрын
Great Video. THANKS
@brunodubois8245
@brunodubois8245 20 күн бұрын
Very sharp review, cant wait to play it
@vwlssnvwls3262
@vwlssnvwls3262 10 күн бұрын
I would love to play any board game with friends... if I had friends willing to play board games. But I would certainly get this one if that were the case, because I have put in thousands of hours into Slay the Spire since it released. I am not very good at it, but I still love it, and I love watching streamers play it as well.
@siriactuallysara
@siriactuallysara 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review. I bought the app to try out the game
@IronSalamander8
@IronSalamander8 20 күн бұрын
I love the video game and am at 14 ascendancy for all but the Watcher where I'm at 13, I play it a ton. I skipped this for many of the reasons you point out here, Tom, but it does sound like a fun time if someone brings it.
@daveburck7076
@daveburck7076 19 күн бұрын
Love your work
@thomastergaard
@thomastergaard 19 күн бұрын
For some reason I always expect a big "ploink" sound or something, when that pear drops. What's the sound of a pear? Could we get one in the intro? :D
@vj7248
@vj7248 20 күн бұрын
i actually could see Slay the Spire having alot more coop potential... but i think it would require a full redesign of the gameplay systems to create more synergy. i actually think too, even with singleplayer, if StS was designed around making two decks for separate characters there'd be alot more tactical strategizing.
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