Should you go to College?

Welcome to Episode 16! In today’s episode, we share all our thoughts on going to college and getting a degree. We talk about our personal experiences with college, the pressure high schoolers feel to get into a good school and whether or not we think college is even necessary! Let us know your thoughts in the comments below :)
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[@terriwillbanks9101]

MyKayla you are spot on. There are so many methods of learning and teaching out there. Time in schools should be spent tying to figure out how each student learns best. Just think of the knowledge all students would gain if their educational potential was enhanced by helping them learn the best way to learn for them.

[@georgiasmith7615]

I think college can be a great experience. It does help you make life long friendships. When else are you going to be around so many people your same age. But I think colleges need to give students more guidance in picking courses and majors and in figuring out what they want to do. Often you are just left to your own devices and a lot of courses have no connection to jobs in the real world

[@westonding8953]

Yeah. Making life long friendships is where I have a few regrets as in hindsight I did not figure things out at that time. Guidance wise was tricky too but I got through that smoother.

[@westonding8953]

I agree a lot of courses don’t relate to the job world but depending on subject it can be tricky to resolve that.

[@dunktheball]

@@westonding8953 same with me wishing I socialized more. In hs also.

[@Coco21212]

I know it's hard to finished school when you like working better, but I actually think it's better than it being this other way around. I was great at school and I loved it. However, working full time was a BIG adjustement for me. Thanksfully, I managed it after a few tries and errors (that could have been carreer ending to be honest), but if I hadn't adjusted, it's not just four years we're talking about, working is what you're supposed to do for your whole life. So good on you. You have a good chance to be very successful and happy in your professionnal life.

[@anneliese883]

I have a learning disability and IEP. I am a college student and it is hard. Thank you for sharing Mykalya!! I’m proud of you!! Congrats!! Love you guys and your podcast!! ❤️

[@heathernewbold406]

Thank you MyKayla for being so honest and vulnerable! I teach students on IEPs at the high school level.

[@loisruth603]

I struggled to finish my undergraduate degree after experiencing a violent attack on campus in my sophomore year. I transferred to a new university and finished another year of undergrad study, but PTSD was accompanied by crippling depression and anxiety- and I did not finish. Much later, I recognized that my children needed to see me complete my post-secondary education (they watched me struggle to work full time and get a BS, M.Ed., and a CAGS in Educational Administration); and I know that all three of them learned from me that completing the appropriate stages to get to where you want to be in life is a very important thing. You will be grateful that you can demonstrate that important value to your own children.

[@OneBrokeActress]

I'd love to know about these headphone/mics. Do you have a link?

[@dunktheball]

I was born prematurely also and I have a bad vision problem, which I assume is because of that (or maybe they put me on oxygen?). But what's weird is my memory ahs always been great, but lately for some reason it's bad. I will forget what happened in a movie I just watched a few days earlier sometimes. lol.

[@andrycrisiana]

Myk: your resilience is amazing, in sports and school!

[@JB11334]

Do all of your general education first. That can usually help you figure out what you want to do. Then your major or minor classes. Once you have decided on your major look at careers with your degree and get a job in the field either paid or non paid internships. Also go to a community college first. You can do dual enrollment in highschool and take community college classes at age 15.

[@doctordarcy8385]

You can test out of a boatload of GEs if you just take a bunch of APs in high school, and go to a college that accepts them.

[@dunktheball]

@@doctordarcy8385 then you're making hs more difficult too, though, so a tradeoff.

[@doctordarcy8385]

@@dunktheball Not really, since those classes will also prepare someone for college. 97 dollars per AP test (to have it count for an entire college class) is basically a steal, too (less $ than a community college).

[@dunktheball]

@@doctordarcy8385 I'm talking only from a workload in hs perspective, ie they are taking on harder work in hs to not have to take it later.

[@doctordarcy8385]

@@dunktheball Why wouldn't someone want to take on "harder work" in high school, if they're legitimately college-bound? What college-bound person these days doesn't take AP courses? They makes a person's life so much easier in college (people are better prepared for college work, and can coast through courses more easily -- a huge asset if one wants to go to grad school, and needs a good GPA), and it's much less expensive to pay for an AP class than an entire college course (not to mention paying for less college overall, since AP courses can accelerate one's degree program).

[@vicmarmil2843]

Hey I fell asleep during my SAT. It totally tanked my score on the English portion of the test.

[@kreyna15]

Thanks for opening up! I also don’t know why professors like to put us in groups.. I hate it to this day. 😂

[@abbycranehorning]

I have a bachelors degree and I have some master courses under my belt as well. I also studied abroad. Overseas, most degrees are earned in 3 years because students don’t have to do Gen Ed classes. As someone who graduated with student debt, I would have LOVED having one less year to pay for. However, from my Gen Ed classes, I decided that my original major was not for me and ended up changing majors as a result. There are pros and cons to both. In the end though, college can be very valuable if you are looking to raise the ranks at an organization, however, the US is so far behind because there are so many free colleges overseas.

[@westonding8953]

I wish I went abroad at some point.

[@MarjorieEarlDean]

When you have kids you gotta go through all the trials and tribulations of school AGAIN. Jonas gonna be doin their homework for them. 🤣

[@andrycrisiana]

Jonas: you need to get that degree! You can do it, you came so far!

[@johnvelas70]

sounds like MyKayla is channeling her inner Pug taking all these naps

[@kirbywebb]

definitely finish your degree. no-one can take that away from you!

[@samkawer]

I have a learning disability to I wish I dropped out of college

[@larissajorgensen710]

I’m just finishing up listening to this episode now and found it so interesting how hospice about how you thought college shouldn’t have general education classes. I live in Australia and University is purely for specialisation for your chosen field. You only study journalism classes for a journalism degree for example. There is no need to still do maths and science. That’s what highschool was for hahahaha it’s always baffled me that American universities still make you study this stuff even though it has absolutely no relation to the degree you’re going after. But then again I know in America you don’t get in on University entrance test scores alone like we do in Australia that you take in year 12. So it’s a very different system, obviously. I guess our entrance test scores help the University to already know you are capable in certain subjects because you got the score that qualified you for a certain degree at that university. Anyway; just fascinating to hear the difference. A basic degree at university in Australia is also only three years as compared to your four. Probably because we don’t have to do the general education classes! 😂

[@ainelawlor5755]

I went to college for 4 years Mykayla I too was the only one out of my cousins to finish. Woo hoo got a merit and passes became a pre school teacher

[@laurosilvestrejr.106]

Wow! Shout out for the bay San Jose! Yep, that's exactly where the trials were held. That's my Hometown.

[@catherinecarney2507]

Guess what, that comment "*(8#" doesn't go away in graduate school. "Comment on two of your classmates." As Myk says, "no one reads it." So, true. I have tried three times to get my masters in 30 years and have yet to complete a program. I just retired from teaching high school last year and have given up on earning another degree. My dd (9 days younger than you) and I had season tickets to the U until she graduated high school in 2014. We went to the PAC-12 Championships in 2015 at the Huntsman while she was home for spring break. We were sitting right above Tory Wilson when she was injured; it was awful. I remember screaming at my husband about how unfair it was when you didn't make the 2016 Olympic team. I practically had a bulleted list of why you should have been on the team instead of a specific different person. 🤷‍♀️

[@dunktheball]

I took a calculus class where we basically never did word problems the whole semester, but oh look... the final exam is ALL confusing word problems. There's no way I passed it, but I got a B for the class, so I assume about everyone had problems with it and there was a curve.

[@westonding8953]

I was a math major and I agree that that is not a good practice. They should have done more word problems during the semester. You have to practice mathematical and engineering literacy.

[@dunktheball]

@@westonding8953 yeah it was so confusing how she suddenly switched to that. And also I felt like well I'll still be able to do it, but nope... I guess I remembered things in a way where it made a big difference. For the degree I originally wanted I would have had to take the second engineering physics class, calc 2 and 3, and on and on. I used to be great at math, but I don't know, I just didn't like calculus.

[@dunktheball]

Mykayla is extra alert in this one because of he nap. haha.

[@andrycrisiana]

Jonas: Let's agree to disagree! :) In the best education systems in the world (finland and other nordic countries) students are rarely tested in exams... school is heavily based on group projects and assignments. Exams only test short-term memory and not real knowledge, creativity, etc...

[@dunktheball]

So many times I didn't even start preparing for exams until the night before, did good on them, then totally forgot stuff. What's funny also, though, is I didn't get an A in jogging because I waited until the night before to even start reading some book we had to read.

[@carrietremble]

Um, did you actually go to university in Finland? I did. The final exams were pressure cookers. Half or more of the semester grade came from the one exam!

[@andrycrisiana]

@@carrietremble I was referring to primary/elementary school, not university.

[@ddj8877]

MyKayla, you don't give yourself enough credit, and schooling, college, ACT's don't make a person. You are a very honest and genuine person that will get you a lot further than a degree.

[@andrycrisiana]

Myk: you mentioned that your vocabulary is quite limited - to expand it, you should engage in daily reading (books with good vocabulary), it will be very helpful!

[@westonding8953]

This is an important topic. You both make me feel old. I got my B.S. In Mathematics from UCLA in 2015. I was about 22 that time. It was quite an experience, full of ups and downs and looking back, you appreciate it more but you wish you handled some things better. Academically, I really don’t think anything can really prepare you for it. It was very intense and I actually appreciate that. However I made some mistakes in hindsight that I wish I could correct. My credential and M.A. program were actually smoother and at a different university.

[@doctordarcy8385]

Uh, I got my bachelor's from UCLA in 2004. 😂

[@peoplethesedaysberetarded]

That’s because it’s an MA. That and MBA programs are equivalent to a JC program for the sciences.

[@westonding8953]

@@peoplethesedaysberetarded what is? I got my M.A. in Ed Tech at Cal State LA in 2020.

[@peoplethesedaysberetarded]

@@westonding8953 🤣 MA in Ed Tech. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You prove my point, good sir.

[@westonding8953]

@@peoplethesedaysberetarded what is your point?

[@samkawer]

I don’t understand word problems

[@samkawer]

I did not enjoy my tech school

[@samkawer]

I had an iep to

[@kreyna15]

Omg the discussion board commenting is sooo annoying. Ha y’all are preaching right now.. lol

[@jamiekuntz1019]

So maybe MyKayla should of studied fashion

[@SarahSchneider2]

College is great for me and as I near graduation it makes me wish that I had more time in school. I am a non-traditional college student (I started at 24, graduated from community college at 27 then transferred to university, and am graduating at 29). I wish I had at least another year left in school and not a few months until the end of April. the main reason is because i'm really scared to go out into the career world and would like more time to just enjoy the college years without having to stress about the full time job that I know I need to get upon graduation.

[@peoplethesedaysberetarded]

Don’t worry. Unless you are literally doing heroin and injecting it into your eyes, as a woman you cannot fail, cannot be homeless. You’re playing life on easy-mode.

[@westonding8953]

Yeah. I wish I trained a bit more for the work world.

[@SarahSchneider2]

@@westonding8953 Agreed to this, My degree is in Marketing and a required class that I took in the fall 2022 semester was called "Marketing Management". That was a hard class for me as it dealt with analyzing a large amount of numbers and it was stressful trying to read between the lines with the numbers to know what they actually meant. The only thing that helped me out grade-wise in that class was group projects.

[@kirbywebb]

Go back to Blonde 👱‍♀️ beautiful Mykayla

[@SabrinaVoineaSStolenMedal]

College is a waste of money. 90% of the people get degree's in stupid subjects that can't be used in the real world. People need to start going to trade school's and learning skills. Unless you want to be a doctor or nurse, you might as well spend your money on something useful.

[@doctordarcy8385]

College can teach you that you don't need an apostrophe s to pluralize a word, though. 😊An educated society, is a more prosperous and productive society (on the whole).

[@kd8859]

You guys need better topics

[@kaydencelockhart2525]

you need a better comment

[@tarheelhurricanegirl9991]

You don't have to watch

[@ainelawlor5755]

Agree to disagree but they have lots of views are you jealous of that

[@peoplethesedaysberetarded]

For a man, yes. For a woman, you couldn’t fail at life unless you really really tried. So just show your holes on the Internet. And if you want a high-value man, you need to do and be things much more important than figuring out if/where you should go to university.

[@dunktheball]

lol. well that comment sure took a turn. But I mean kind of true women can choose to go other directions because of looks.

[@peoplethesedaysberetarded]

@@dunktheball it is indeed an unpleasant truth. I wish it were not true, then women of today would not be such dumpster-fires on the whole.