You guys just rock! I am a freelance UX/UI designer/front end developer and nobody does this on KZbin. There isn't a single channel that even comes close to this. How come you are so willing to share? This is top notch education, and it's completely FREE! I've watched all of your videos, at least once, and i am amazed at your wisdom, sense of the moment and time, sense of the state of design, business, entrepreneurship all of which comes from your infinite aptitude for this line of work. It's like you are from another planet. Are you? Are you going to leave soon? Please leave your sacred scrolls somewhere so we can share the knowledge. Yes, exactly. Don't laugh. I've wasted money on Udemy, Udacity and other sites, and it just felt like mental masturbation, compared to The Skool. Thank you so much for sharing. This is fucking epic.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
aerozg thank you. The sacred scrolls are the videos. If you want to go to the next level consider a kit or join the pro group.
@aerozg7 жыл бұрын
I will join the pro membership. I am in between jobs, currently interviewing with two companies. Plus it's the holidays, so family time of course. I don't live in the US. If i did, i would pay YOU your $$$/hr fee just to be able to shadow you, and learn from you. I don't think i would need long, maybe a few months or so, but you wouldn't even know i am there, it would be no trouble for you, trust me. Because you have that FIRE. I have not seen such fire for as long as i can remember. Such PASSION. And drive. It jumps off the screen, transcending everything, from geography, to language and technology barriers. Thank you for being so fucking awesome! I can't tell you enough how much i am enjoying your videos. Because i have such passion, and fire, and drive to do good design work. But also so much fear and doubt. And then i run into your channel and my jaw drops, while i watch and listen in silence. This is how it's done. And you are making it seem so effortless. Thanks for helping us remember why we started this path in the first place, and thanks for showing us the Way. It's almost biblical :) I am sorry about the theatrics but i don't know any other way to express my awe and gratitude. Merry Christmas (if you are celebrating) and all the best in the New 2017! I will see you in the pro group.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
It's cause we love you.
@anne-marievandijk84857 жыл бұрын
agreed. 100%.
@BalaMurugan-tr1ke6 жыл бұрын
There is nothing such as FREE. Remember it. who said this is free, cant you see which is the sample of their class so that you can try out their membership. and yes of all the course I have seen you guy are better maybe in future I will be joining you guys personally...
@avian60515 жыл бұрын
Takeaways: 1:16 Cost vs Value Value = What you're getting out of it. Cost = Expense. 9:05 Chris doesn't care what your degree is. With the way that formal education is going, eventually no one will. 11:12 Gray matter in the brain holds onto facts. White matter is good at connecting things together. Creative people may have more white matter. Although they are able to connect things together, they aren't able to articulate themselves. This is why breakdowns like this are important, so you can demistify amibigious feelings about something and concretely look at it objectively. 15:03 Going to school for a unique portfolio is not a good reason. That's not the result you'll get from a cookie-cutter curriculum. 16:35 Take the time to do the math on the final product of your education. Is what your making THAT good? 18:19 There are levels to these benefits. Are you getting the level of benefit from the school that you think you are? 22:28 Rethink education dogma. There are many ways to skin this cat, make your path interesting, especially when it makes more sense: Call your design idol, pay them instead to learn what you're paying at school to shadow them. Take an entry-level job at the company doing what you want to learn. 25:37 Tried and true. There are plenty of people who hustled to build themselves. Chris has been friends with them and has hired them. 28:40 If it's important to you, grow a spine and be persistent in your pursuit. 30:57 Chris reiterates his point: The future is different. An example of this is Masterclass.com. TLDR; If you really want it, you have all the resources to get it at your disposal, what you need is hustle, not school. Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. Thank you Chris.
@thefutur5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@SS4DEUCE5 жыл бұрын
Always coming with the good summaries, thank you
@aladdinaaji70744 жыл бұрын
The last bit ... Thank you so very much ❤️
@DJ-tq1ht7 жыл бұрын
What the guy is talking about is bravery and passion. If you want it, find a way to get it. Most of the people get to universities and schools in general (I would exclude medicine for ex.), expecting a good opportunity or a job when they're done with it, the truth is, only the bold ones who know what they want at the beginning of the journey are the ones who become experts later. This apply for most of the things in Life. Intrinsic motivation or grit, is what gets you where you wish to be, no school can teach you that.
@AirsofterAton7 жыл бұрын
That's what I really want to hear
@Adrian-wd4rn6 жыл бұрын
Agree. I nearly majored in finance. After working in the field, I found myself very stressed, and after a convo with my mom (My moms side of the family is very artistically gifted), I decided, what the hell, I'll pick up a paintbrush...Started painting about a year ago while in finance. And when I got to the breaking point, I made a last second switch into product design. I was always told that I was very creative and a "right sided thinker", and I felt like "everyone says it, I might as well do it", I made a leap into design. Mind you, I never drew in my life, and now I'm 6 months away from submitting a portfolio. However, at 26 (almost 27), I feel like in the short amount of time that I did spend drawing away in my room, building my portfolio (after all, I had to spend a ton of time to even get half way to 50% of other transferring students, in terms of drawing skill), I found myself insanely drawn to home decorations and kitchen appliances. I don't know what it is about them, perhaps its the free range of thinking that you're allowed, as opposed to consumer electronics, where you draw a rectangle 7 different ways. Anywho, to get to your point, I feel like, while my GPA isn't the best, as I stand at a paltry 2.4 with 3 classes remaining, so likely a 2.6 just enough to apply*(against an average 3.3 GPA at most schools), my drawing skills probably don't touch half the applicants I'm against; my age, and my background in business, is what puts me above the rest of them. I know exactly what I want and how to get it. Listening to the girl in the forefront of the video with the short blonde streaked hair. I felt like she could hardly put 2-3 words together. No doubt that artistically she's far and away ahead of me, but most art students need to realize that they are NOT salvador dali, or picasso, and that they are going to work at a COMPANY, that has millions riding on their creativity. Most of those people in the room really need to learn some speaking skills. It'll make their life easier. But alas...Weak GPA, 6 months of experience drawing, and at 26 trying to get my rear into a design school..................Wish me luck ladies and gentlemen. I'm seriously going to need it. *You can thank my early years of not caring about school for the weak GPA, and realizing I had ADHD which gave me severe exam anxiety, finally fixed it.
@bogaziciliceohaluk5 жыл бұрын
@@Adrian-wd4rn oh my god dude I'm 19 and your story really touched me my parents were trying to force me to finance too but i chose art, now they are saying they will support me with more money if i change fields...Everyone in my family said go to finance but i knew what i wanted. I'd recommend working out for the ADHD, really helps peace
@Adrian-wd4rn5 жыл бұрын
@@bogaziciliceohaluk Thanks for the tip. I'm 10 years older than you, I figured out how to deal with ADHD ;) haha. You could major/minor.
@danielu25217 жыл бұрын
Chris Do, You've become one of my mentors even though I've never met you personally. So much I've learned subscribing to this channel. Thank you for what you do.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel. Then you've become my virtual student.
@ItsMongQ7 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with the new approach to getting knowledge although I don't think it would work for everyone. I threw 2 years into fashion school post college and asked myself had I put that chunk of money into one-on-one training, I would have excel tremendously. Post design school, I paid a master seamstress to teach me her craft for 2K, I learned not only skills but the secrets and shortcuts that the professors don't teach. One of the challenges I encountered from finding masters is that they are usually not good instructors. You have to learn by observations and have the skills to translating their style and languages. It's definitely not a step to step learning process that the school system follows. I think experience and maturity play a huge role in learning. Had I invest my money in mentors post high school, I would feel too naive and lack the discipline to mandate the acquired knowledge.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. "Modeling" yourself after a master requires a very different skill set. You have to be a "self learner". You have to know what questions to ask. You have to be able to think critically.
@GEN47-277 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, but what if you never grew up learning that, and now your're 30 yrs old, and still don't know what are the questions to ask? That's where I am now, but I've taken the blue pill and don't wanna sleep anymore, where do I start? Specifically, where do i start asking the right questions? What is, in your opinion, critical thinking?
@tanmaypanadi14145 жыл бұрын
@@GEN47-27 hey u have started asking the right questions and that's the very reason u watch these videos to understand and introduce yourself to the questions and apply what works for you
@calderonjd302 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree...right out of high school very very few kids have that maturity level.
@punkhorse88723 жыл бұрын
This video was exactly what I needed right now. I'm a high school drop out, been out of school for about 8 years now and never went to college. I've always been a creative thinker and have gone back and forth about going back to school and getting a degree in graphic design. Art has been the only thing in life that makes me feel confident, but school scares me and I've been searching for a valid reason to actual go back and just do it. Between the money and my own insecurity I've been procrastinating. After watching this video I feel so much more comfortable about making a serious decision like this and really want to grow as a person and a professional. The way you broke things down and the interactions you had with each other in this video really made me feel like maybe I can do it, maybe it is worth it and that the outcome of my decision will solely be based on my vulnerability to the unknown and determination to succeed.
@AbhishekSharma-ju8jq7 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm a self-taught designer with little or no mentorship. Sometimes I get stuck at some things, but I always told myself that it might be because I've never attended a design school. Looking at this video helped me clear out the mist that has been stopping me from continuing. So, thank you for helping people like me refocus.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Abhishek Sharma you're welcome.
@mihaela1235 Жыл бұрын
@@thefutur I've just been accepted at a Digital Design Master's at University of Applied Sciences in Amsterdam and this video goes in line with my intuition to learn in another way. Thr problem is that it seems almost impossible to get a job as a designer in The Netherlands without this education ( you can internship at these agencies only if you are conpleting a Bachelor or Master). So what to do in this case? Thank you!
@NewAgeStudio7 жыл бұрын
I work in important graphic design agency in my country, i have not any certificate in graphic design & i have never studying in design school, but i have skills & creative mind, that's the most important thing ;) just be creative & deferent & you will get a job of your dreams
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
yes!
@xxNikos88xx6 жыл бұрын
I wish this would work in Austria. :/
@XComedYCaTX6 жыл бұрын
@Hewkii In the year of 2018 you can easily work and study world wide without leaving your bedroom. ;)
@omariblake216 жыл бұрын
Elfrun von Steininger I do the same. Always at home
@newdadz6 жыл бұрын
Timing is key in your situation, you got very lucky and have probably been hired for other skills then managed to get in to this position. Unfortunately that doesn't apply to everyone :)
@louierubbish83747 жыл бұрын
Currently studying Multi-Media Arts in the Philippines. Watching this now before I go to sleep. I've learned a lot from this channel that I didn't hear from school. Mad props to the process!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Louie. Pleasant dreams.
@jahzf.31027 жыл бұрын
Louie Rubbish Hey. I just want to ask how's the experience studying Multimedia Arts here in the Philippines because I am planning to take the same course when I reach college. Your response will be very much appreciated :).
@RarufuRC7 жыл бұрын
@Perrie : It depends on the school that you're going to. I'm pretty sure most of them will teach you all the hard skills you needed for the industry. College or university has its connections so use it well. Hope that helps~
@jahzf.31027 жыл бұрын
Ralph Carlo Dimanalata Thanks :)
@MatheusBaumgart7 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that someone shares the same vision I have. I did that to get my first job when I was 16 and repeated the model a few times after that. I had never need to pay someone, though. I taught myself what I could and offered my work for free for a month in exchange for sitting down with the best professional in the room and watch him work. Not once I left that first month without a job offer. With the right attitude you learn, you get what you want, and you influence others.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
do it your way.
@MatheusBaumgart7 жыл бұрын
Our ways are similar. I just targeted businesses instead of professionals. Businesses are interested to find talents, especially if you make that process seamless and free for them. In exchange, they provide you with professionals already working for them. If you make the most of that time, at the end you'll likely land a job and get them to pay you to learn even more :) Oh, that also means you can choose where you want to work and skip the stressful interview process. Not to mentioned that your degree or lack of it (in my case) won't matter after you proved your talent and attitude.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
i meant that you figured it out and went your own way. Bravo.
@lakinadkins37016 жыл бұрын
I have to say discovering Chris Do and TheFutur Team has changed the way I see and think of design. After watching a 30 minute youtube video of yours I was instantly hooked and this went on for about 7 more videos that day. I seriously didn’t move. I am incredibly inspired by your wisdom, experience, creative thinking and flat out honesty in the field. Why pursue a degree at a design school when I can learn from someone like you who has already taught me so much? Another great video. I appreciate you Chris Do and all that you do. Thank you!
@thefutur6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.
@HowardWimshurst7 жыл бұрын
I like the fresh approach/ lateral thinking on this! Going to show this to people who ask me about getting an art degree in the US, thanks!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Howard Wimshurst you're welcome Howard.
@vicky73447 жыл бұрын
Finally I got what I wanted so long. As I belong in a middle class family my parents couldn't provide me a formal education in designing and even I was not aware of that design could be a considerable career in India. Even I hadn't any formal education in drawing. First time I have become aware of it when I was in 3rd year of my college and won a award in a poster designing competition from India, I was among the ten artists who won that competition ( Indiafrica poster designing competition) and that gave me huge confidence honestly. From then I have started self learning through internet/ youtube/ various graphic designing blogs/ behance/ pinterest etc. Now already I have started to build a portfolio in Behance. Thanks for your videos, it helps me a lot, huge hug from India :)
@vicky73447 жыл бұрын
Here is my portfolio link. Please visit if you get time & I will be very thankful give me your valuable feedback :) www.behance.net/Sourab
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Hi Sourab. Big hug back. Welcome to the channel.
@vithedesigner4 жыл бұрын
So... I’m a freelance designer and I love this channel. I went to business school and secured a great stable career. In addition, I’m steadily building my freelance business and I and doing well for myself on that front. Watching this video, I feel vindicated in my decision to major in business. But I can’t help but feel bad for the people that spent 200,000 on art school in the audience. American student loan debt is a societal issue affecting more than just art students. We as a society are learning now that the concept of paying for school with massive debt is somewhat of a joke... but that doesn’t help the people already burdened by debt. Interesting video. Great content as always.
@MissssJones057 жыл бұрын
WOW! ...this video was awesome. I went to the Art Institute of Orange County for 3 years and i always felt like I was not learning enough. The assignments were not challenging enough and out of 25 plus instructors I felt that only 3 were valuable and worth the course. I love your different approach to learning and excelling in this industry. GOLDEN NUGGETS GIVEN HERE!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Have heard many mixed reviews of Ai.
@brandonscott64977 жыл бұрын
+Chris : You couldn't be more correct, I got started with Web Design, and learned so much more from free online resources and networking around to ask questions than I could ever learn in a classroom. My college experience was, listen to a lecture, write down what they said, and go home to read the book I bought about the lecture that I had already taken notes on. Then get tested and move on to the next class where I would do the same. I could have learned 10 times more by just being on the job and learning from an expert about the career I was aiming at to begin with.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
you have the whole world as a teacher if you are willing to go see it.
@damancandance13 жыл бұрын
damn 4 years later this hit me so hard still. Would love to see an updated version of this every couple of years. As someone who finished design school (in canada - $45k). 80% of my class time was spent sitting around waitinf for my turn to go talk to the teacher for 5-10mins for crit. this was about 80% of my design classes. we are long overdue for a new model of learning in the arts
@helloannesjay6 жыл бұрын
I'm a 24 year old industrial designer from Singapore who has never went to college (I was rejected twice from my local university) and I worked for a few years in a small design studio before coming to London for an unpaid internship for 6 months. It was the best decision that I've ever made.
@thefutur6 жыл бұрын
congrats
@booki59737 жыл бұрын
I am 20 and I have decided not to go to art school because I have been questioning myself about this subject since I was in high school and you gave me the courage to follow my thoughts and believes! Back in 2012, I was taking a wonderful course about studying from a company called "Study Code". At that time I was in Korea and the education system there was all about competitions. I did not like that. I wanted to change the foundation of Korean education system but in order to do that, I had to play and win the game to get people to listen to me. I finished their course and follow their instruction to go to the top university in Korea. The CEO of Study code made their own unique system. They made their own textbooks and found the best teachers to record the best lecture videos for their students. They also hire the top 3 Korean universities' students as the coaches for their customers (high school students). He also had a podcast. I really enjoyed listening to it every time I got too frustrated from studying. In his podcast, he said almost the same thing that you said in this video.How the schools need to change. Let students to watch the best lecture video and teacher should coach them. So I just want to let you know that the new school system does work! I have already experienced it and it was awesome! Keep up the good work! Your youtube videos and podcasts have inspired me a lot and really opened my eyes. I really appreciate them. Thank you so much, Chris!
@RexGalilae5 жыл бұрын
One thing I've noticed and like about this guy is how he tunnel visions a point from multiple directions to break it down piecewise. You pay 100k for a portfolio? for speaking skills? for working with your heroes? I'll show you how much you had to pay if you just paid for the portfolio. Then, for just the speaking skills. Then again, just for getting to work with a titan in the industry. Such a way of looking at things isn't always accurate but it really helps if you're focused on one goal which you hope to achieve with your education
@mbanich7 жыл бұрын
Very thought provoking video. I went to art school hoping to find my "creative" path, graduated four years later and still had no idea what I was doing or how to do it. Directionless, I spent a long time trying to figure it out by process of elimination. I think your idea of paying to shadow a master, the apprentice way, has a lot of merit dating back to the earliest artisans. Think Egyptian scribes, greek sculptors, renaissance painters, these are master/apprentice workshops where you learn a trade starting a young age and dedicating yourself to learning the craft. You can't just study four years and expect to be great, it takes years of showing up and doing the work and honing your craft. I would strongly encourage my younger self to "apprentice" and learn in that manner but you do need to pinpoint what you love first.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Well said. It seems like looking back, the choices were much clearer.
@InHisImig7 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, I've been watching your videos for close to a year now, and this is my first post. I couldn't agree more with this video, and many others. I am, ironiclly, just finishing art school. I grew up being 'taught' that if you want to do something creative, you can be a fine artist and starve, or teach art. I taught for a few years along with varied other jobs/careers, and am in a career transition right now, though am still working full time. For me, art school was the 'blinders being removed' that allowed me to see that there was a creative world with very real career possibilities. Ive been frustrated with school, and voiced this frustration recently to colleagues, but the way you ended the video is something I've been expressing for months. Thank you for putting it into words. What I am getting from art school is not so much the actual content of what I need to know. I am instead, learning that I need to know it, and then am able to research it on my own to figure it out. I'm learning what I don't know, but need to know. On a similar note, I really appreciate your typography video and guidelines. I remember in my first two typography classes, I explicitly asked two of my teachers, "do you have a list of typefaces that should be used, so I can start with the basics and move from there.' They told me a couple of their favorites, and I scribbled those down, but that was it. What you put out is exactly what I was asking for a year ago. I saw on a few recent posts, that you were asking what price was reasonable for the series your putting together for 2017. I'm in my 30's and just had a baby. I talked to my wife a few months ago about CORE, and have been saving up since the summer. I'm planning to invest in this before 2017. If there were various levels of pricing with the Type courses, that would be awesome. Maybe you could have some levels with the live sessions, some with feedback, and some just as basic information. Thanks for all you do.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Hi Brady. Glad you commented. What took ya so long? I will figure out some tiered system. I want more people to have the information and don't want price to be an issue. The plan so far: Live workshop, fully interactive, live stream of that class with limited interaction, recorded video w/ no interaction, typography book that we will publish. How would you price the 4 tiers? What makes sense to you?
@InHisImig7 жыл бұрын
The majority of the episodes I've watched were posted months or years ago and am unsure as to whether posts might still get read. Also, I'm not much into postings without substance. I'm not sure the number of 'students' you would be able to host live, but I thikn something like 400 for the workshop, 200 for the stream, 100 for the recorded video after the fact, and at the most, 50 for the type book. Most type books, like 'stop steeling sheep,' I can get pretty cheap used, a new book being 20-40. Vitalsource online textbooks are charged to student accounts at 50 a pop for each class they take. Just a thought.
@FutonJohn7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for answering my question in this video. Your concept of a "new school" is such a good idea. Time to save up and try it out myself lol..
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
yeah. why not?
@BalaMurugan-tr1ke6 жыл бұрын
Watching this after 1yr and half also these things are new to me... In INDIA design is just growing... Hav a lot to learn..!!! Thank you The Futur team...
@beatezeuner18177 жыл бұрын
THAAANKS for that video! Finally someone who told me I don't have to feel bad for studying the wrong thing and having actually no higher education at all (I studied art, and unfortunataly feeling like I wasted my time 5 years completely not being myself, having no direction, just wanted to end an education as I was told one should do). Now I want to become a graphic designer (at least I start at graphic design) and I'm more than happy to see a successful man telling me that I can be a self learner, finding the right mentors and clients on my own.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Beate, if something doesn't make you stronger and happier, you don't need it in your life. Period. Never let anyone make you doubt yourself.
@kristineherzog72157 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. I'm a graphic designer and I went to vocational school and community college for my education. After realizing I learned absolutely nothing from my college experience, I decided against getting a BA degree. It wasn't worth the mountain of debt in my eyes, I knew you could teach yourself everything you needed. My best friend went the route of private art school. She's now almost $200k in debt and I watch her struggle to pay her massive loan payment each month. It makes me cringe. I've always felt insecure that I didn't have a 4 year degree, but I always knew in my gut that I didn't need it. This solidified my stance. I've always thought about seeking out a mentor but thought it was far out there. I'm now at a plateau in my career and want to better my craft. I realized I am very underpaid for the soft skills I have. I just need to better my hard skills and aim higher. Thank you for sharing this wealth of information!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@trevorsoh21305 жыл бұрын
Wow - that just hit the nail on so many of my thoughts over the years, as a uni graduate myself once. I’m now 12 years in and even at this point in my journey - I think the idea of paying a mentor for myself is a great idea - thanks for sharing this :)
@melissaramirez18417 жыл бұрын
AMAZING LECTURE !!! Design has always been a passion of mine and I'm at a point in my life that I am thinking of going to school for it. Before committing to a school I have decided to search for other options and that how I came across this lecture. You have open my mind to the most logical, successful way to gain and perfect not only the skills but also to really learn how communication in this field is done successfully in the real world. Thank you !!!!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Melissa Ramirez hi Melissa. Glad to help.
@briefgraphics Жыл бұрын
I just started my graphic design journey a few months back by learning by myself. This video gave me a reality check, opened my eyes, and gave me the confidence to move forward.♥️♥️
@prettyseahag7 жыл бұрын
I just came across your channel, I am comming to the end of my degree plan from a technical school. I was searching through the Internet in my constant pursuit of learning. My school is cheap and there is such a mix in skill level. I totally agree with your video. The fact that I am googling how to do half of my assignments tells you a lot. The only thing I really received from my school is set challenges for things like industrial design that I didn't even think about trying. Basically it pushed my boundaries and gave me some competition. However I think your new system would have benefited me more by a long shot. Sadly I am not wealthy enough (which is why I am in a technical college) to offer a decent amount of money to the Rock Stars. Thankfully people like you offer your knowledge for free, and I can keep learning from videos until I can provide enough for their time/my living expenses. This also reminds me of the tattoo industry where you pay thousands to shadow but you pay your idols versus these unheard of professors that may not have the experience you were going for.
@MrWebDesign7 жыл бұрын
Nailed it! You & Jose are major influences in the way I operate on the clock but more importantly in when I work with clients outside of the 9 to 5. Thank you, honestly and sincerely, thank you.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
thanks Richard. appreciate the support.
@ShahirUsmani4 жыл бұрын
I watched this few months ago but never really called anyone for a job, just kept applying without any success. Yesterday I made the call and it worked without even paying 10K you are talking about. Thanks for the advise Chris 💙
@thefutur4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@michaelmirchandani98057 жыл бұрын
wow.....i was really impressed by the concept of working for mentors (and paying them), and flipping the idea of getting a real education. this is really ground breaking thinking, thanks for sharing!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
it's a radical concept.
@michaelmirchandani98057 жыл бұрын
I guess it is a radical concept, but I was more impressed by the value comparison you provided vs. the traditional school system. I mean, radical is contextual isn't it? Just a few years ago it was radical to use a stranger's car as a taxi, or stay at a residential home vs a hotel, or date someone online....or even speak to a video creator after watching their content. It seems like that in all these examples its a matter of providing a platform that breaks down the established social norms against what we are now calling radical. Perhaps it is a service you might want to develop with your pro services at the futur :) Thanks again, all the best!
@andrescorrea52626 жыл бұрын
I agree that something has to be done about the exorbitant cost of formal education. However, the idea of mentorship suggested on this video is partly flawed. If we were to open a market-place where the millions of students who want to learn from the very few stars of the world can do so at an $x price/time (assuming these stars actually have the time or interest to do so), inevitably, the laws of supply and demand would kick in. The high demand for the very limited availability of mentors would skyrocket the price of said mentorships. The cost of learning in this fashion would probably be as onerous or even more so than going to a university. Even if you were to pre-record videos or do an online class with these stars and be able to improve the cost, it would still be very complicated to manage many of the pedagogic gaps of distance learning that a formal education is better able to address through in person teaching, social interaction, dedicated facilities/resources, research, etc.
@Ferj7 жыл бұрын
My favorite video from you guys so far. THESE are the discussions we need to be having within the design industry. Current, relatable, and extremely informative. Kudos to Chris for not being afraid to drop these knowledge bombs on people. Sometimes, all we need is a wake up call, and this channel gives us the cold-hard truth, despite some ideas that are contrary to popular opinion. Thanks for listening to my recommendation a few months ago :D I'm very, very interested in hearing the view-points of actual teachers regarding this topic. I think that Chris needs a challenge, and it would be one hell of a show seeing him go toe-to-toe with established design school professors on whether students should go to design school or embrace the alternatives. Cheers!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Ferj Petrula is coming back this weds. Join us on FB live. Your wish is granted. Glad you like this video. I have these conversations all the time but never on camera.
@Ferj7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, looking forward to it!
@abbichoa1454 жыл бұрын
Damn it Chris, it's the most fit videos for me right at the moment! i've just graduated from art school. Really a good job on what you are doing! Greetings from Indonesia!
@melodyperez60587 жыл бұрын
my education was 90,000 dollars. I don't regret it, they taught me how to make things but I feel like they didn't teach me how to do things. I basically ran around having to learn basic business practices.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
and now you are watching and learning on our channel. i guess it all worked out for you.
@melodyperez60587 жыл бұрын
indeed ! :)
@ocubex5 жыл бұрын
Wow, one of the best videos on KZbin on education for creatives.
@ooTheRandomDudeoo6 жыл бұрын
The last 2 minutes exactly decribe the system at my design school. My teachers would record a lesson/tutorial and post it up online for the class to watch. We would then go to school with questions/doubts and the teachers would be coaches instead and cater to each student regarding their work. There is no such thing as lectures in my school. It really saves time and gives us more creative freedom!
@thefutur6 жыл бұрын
What school is this? Sounds wonderful.
@TheCrisso127 жыл бұрын
Insightful and motivating content. Thankyou! I'm currently in art trade school and the lecturers speak very little of what you discuss in your videos. Your content is priceless.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
TheCrisso12 thanks. Glad you find them to be valuable.
@goodistic5 жыл бұрын
This is awesome 👏 I never saw that people are saying that degree is not so important but sadly whenever we go for an interview they ask your degree first not your creativity. I mate so many people in my life who inspired me but they don't have any degree in designing field. I think creativity is something inbuilt, we can learn from the college's the basic things like how software work and all but after that, you have to think how you are going to apply it and the most important thing what I learned is that we always need to update our tools.
@liamrainford72407 жыл бұрын
With web design/ ux etc becoming even more needed than ever before, and analogue methods 'dying' (there's no disagreeing with this), it really irritates me that all the lecturers at my 'prestigious' university don't even know basic photoshop shortcuts, never mind ux design. Yet these people are still 'current industry professionals'. Sure there's things I can learn from them, but the large majority are meaningless for today's standards
@jackandmoonpie72457 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about my community college professors who are 'pros in the industry' when it comes to film.
@elis27817 жыл бұрын
I love this. Although it may not work for everyone (various reasons), the self determined and self learners of the futur can definitely use this. Especially for this industry where degrees don't matter. This is a game changer
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Eli S absolutely right.
@wwild2k6 жыл бұрын
BOOOOOM!!!!!!! Huuuuuge mic drop. I feel im getting back my spirit. I am stuck in restaurant world, but my whole teenage and 20s i was in visuals. Still and motion, more motion, that included still too. I am so so so grateful for your videos. I am proud to announce that thanks to you Chris, i am ready to do something as scary as skydiving - change my life forever - turn career 180 degree. Thank you times million Chris. Much love from Finland
@Switcher3217 жыл бұрын
I still always find it amazing how you (americans) could ever accept that starting your life with a huge mountain of dept that (for most people) imprisons them in their jobs for af huge part of their lifes, is acceptable. Im lucky enough to study in Denmark, where there not only is no tuition, but you even get support (about 800$ a month) from the goverment while you are studying/pursuing an education. That is of course tax-financed, so you ultimately pay back your share through your taxes later in life. This ensures that everyone truly has the same opportunities when it comes to education and you dont start your professional life with that ridiculous amount of dept. So the only math I have to do is: Is this education worth my time? To me investing in the education of the next generation should always be one of the, if not the highest priority of a society.. But then again, I am what most americans would wrongly call a communist. And I dont mean to criticize or offend. Im not part of your society so i have no stakes in the matter, I simply find it incredibly difficult to understand, thats all. Great video though :)
@gillianthedesigner7 жыл бұрын
You got right Miron. As an American, I notice most people assume high taxes=bad or socialism=dictatorship or loss of freedom. Which isn't really true. A lot of these misconceptions come from lack of education. In high school, I had one class on government. It wasn't enough. If it wasn't for college, I wouldn't know half of what I know now. I try to educate people by encouraging travel, but I know can't afford it so I direct them to local libraries and hope that they can educate themselves.
@TenderloinsToughest7 жыл бұрын
Not like we have much of a choice. It's just the way it is. It's so backwards.
@Switcher3217 жыл бұрын
Yes travel is a great way to gain perspective. The best probably. The whole fear of communism was cultivated via propaganda during some of your wars and is unfortunately still nurtured by ridiculous statements made by politicians on a regular basis. At least from those people one would expect that they understand the difference between socialism, social security and communism. I just find it sad that in such a rich country so many basic things (healthcare, education etc) are denied to so many people. But as long as a majority fears changes that would benefit them, not much will probably change. (By the way, it's not like things over here are perfect or anything, far from it.. but at least the basics are covered)
@TenderloinsToughest7 жыл бұрын
Yeah out country has a lot of shit backwards. It baffles us too.
@Ferj7 жыл бұрын
But if everyone gets a free college degree, what happens to the value of the degree? How would employers hire the most talented people? Why do so many students in the US who have college degrees (especially those who major in the arts & humanities) work in entry-level jobs after graduation?
@justtryingtofigureitout_7 жыл бұрын
I am not a designer, but the lessons of your videos are really helping me to stay motivated/inspired as I am starting a new chapter in my life. This video, in particular, reaffirmed some of my own thoughts as I have recently decided to leave college. Thank you!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Just curious. What are you studying?
@justtryingtofigureitout_7 жыл бұрын
The Futur I was studying Biology.
@divrodricks25255 жыл бұрын
Coming across this video has honestly been the best thing that has happened to me in months. I'm so happy to find people who share similar views like I do. I live in India and here not going to college equals wasting your years. I've never liked college, I did enjoy the discussions and learning methods to an extent but it overall put me off because the whole system was marks based. You needed good marks to graduate, to get into college, to get through an entrance, basically you were valued based on your marks and not by your efforts and this whole mark system was really flawed to me. And so I chose not to go to college and do something on my own, that is self learn. Try and build my own skills, find alternate ways to learn. But again living in an indian society, this wasn't easy. I couldn't afford an art college and ever since I felt on and off with my decisions, feeling like I was missing out on mentorship, friendships, whatever you wrote down in that column, exactly that. I felt like a misfit in a country full of graduates. But I stuck to my plans because I knew I wanted people who don't care about a degree and look at my work and decide whether they want to hire me or not. And art is my passion, I didn't get the logic of paying someone 10 lakhs to teach me something that's natural in me. Something I can practice and get better at. This video has really given me that push to look beyond curriculum and education systems, and find my own ways to learn. So thank you so much for putting this material out here for people like me to relate to and know that we're not alone.
@thefutur5 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@vanessasiregar30087 жыл бұрын
I don't know what to say, i was mindblown by this and your other videos, this is teach me stuff more than my 4 years of college had taught me. I can't thank you enough for making it into video and post in on youtube that is FREE to watch over and over again. I really hope you can keep making this kind of videos 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
✊ Thanks Vanessa. Very encouraging words. Means a lot to me.
@psylentzer53027 жыл бұрын
Gotta give credit to the dude on Reddit, that linked to this channel. 6 hours deep into the content on here. I can understand everything that is going down in this video in particular. I studied in Graphic Design for 3 years, but I feel for the most part, we weren't taught to a capable limit within the study period. I feel as for the most part, it was all to build a portfolio, wherein reality, information, like pricing, is far more important in my eyes. Keep it up team!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Reddit rocks. Thanks dude for posting it. Can you tell us who so we can shout him out?
@psylentzer53027 жыл бұрын
By the looks, the user has deleted their account. This was the thread of which, caught a lot of attention: www.reddit.com/r/graphic_design/comments/64ukj2/ive_learned_more_from_binge_watching_this_channel/
@misterwanwan6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating talk, Chris! In my country you can get free higher education if you were a half-decent school student, so I wouldn’t be as quick to ditch this option. I believe it’s a great option to go to a university/college, get quite an all-round education, while at the same time apply these tips to areas you have more particular interest in. You won’t learn all you need from one institution anyway, that’s why it’s useful to start looking for knowledge yourself. Thanks for this talk!
@thefutur6 жыл бұрын
hard to beat free. but i have to solve the problem that we face in this society where education isn't free.
@misterwanwan6 жыл бұрын
The Futur exactly, huge issue over there with you guys. Thankfully, you and people like you are proposing alternatives.
@kristijanristic70367 жыл бұрын
This video is actually more worth than siting in art school for 1 week. Good job!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Kristijan Ristic thanks!
@sabelosibeko75487 жыл бұрын
The conclusion to the presentation gave me chills. That's a paradigm shift on the methods of education
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
i heard the idea from Seth Godin in his talk stop stealing dreams. Wouldn't it be wonderful to change the way we teach?
@TenderloinsToughest7 жыл бұрын
Some things I would add as what I was looking for from my education are being taught design/art theory in addition to the technical skills. Like the brains behind the technical skills. Also, especially when you pay for a revered private school like CCA or Art Center, I think you're paying for the perceived clout that comes with having that schools name on your resume/degree/portfolio. There's a difference in perception between someone with a degree from Art Center versus a community college (not that there aren't many, many great designers who've come from community college or no college at all).
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
I'm telling you Paul, I graduated from Art Center, and it doesn't matter to me. I don't care what school you came from. Your portfolio tells the story.
@TenderloinsToughest7 жыл бұрын
The Futur Yeah, I get that, but I think it's still a perceived reason for people going to specific schools. It's a perceived value, not necessarily a real one. I myself graduated from CCA and that fact alone has done absolutely nothing for my career so I agree with you that it doesn't really help in the end. The schools (if they're good, like Art Center and CCA are rumored to be) should just equip the students with the tools to create that successful future, but it's on us to take them and put the pedal to the floor and really maximize potential. I think too many kids kind of expect college to hand them things, when in reality it's a super competitive market and you have to constantly work to set yourself apart and make your portfolio speak for you and sell your abilities to potential clients/employers. School provides a REALLY expensive starting point, but it's just the tip of the ice berg of what it takes to be successful.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Paul Lukes you are absolutely right.
@kwiatekpolny17 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris , I'm so happy I came across you and your project. What you are saying resonates with me so much . The way you dig deep into understanding is amazing ! You are my huge inspiration in so many ways. Great stuff you're guys doing and it's also fun to watch you 👌🏻✨
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
thanks ewa.
@dirgaprimadian97627 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the idea! in my experience : I wasn't have a bachelor degree from art school but my boss was gave me role to lead creatives (art director,designers,illustrators, animators, sound designer) that most of them had graduated in art school (after 2 years I worked as graphic designer). I wasn't learn how to lead people, I felt like it just came naturally - by that I realize then I have to read books,watch videos about leadership to help me better. I wasn't learn how to communicate, I wasn't learn how to storytelling ( well I learn while working on the project ). I think one of the big key is enterpreneur spirit that built in and grew inside of me (thank God). The enterpreneur DNA drives me to think what others don't - that lead me to the path to the critical role in a creative process. How I find/realize this kind of DNA? I would say - it is grew by the time we struggling with projects we worked on. Just believe in what drives our energy and keep improvise with your intuition. Thanks Chris Do!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Dirga.
@davidgonzalez9655 жыл бұрын
Man I just love this episode, I'm gonna share this with everyone I can talk about this with and btw I totally agree with you Chris, I dropped college and started my self-learning journey (which is not really self-learning cuz I get to see you guys and some other heroes), 1 and a half years ago and it's been amazing, I'm working for a marketing company and learning at the same time and I totally recommend this path to anyone in a creative field. Keep it up guys!
@NEKSMEDIA4 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are the man! I could watch these all day long!
@ScottValentine7 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video! Firstly I can't believe Americans pay $500k for a degree, that's crazy. Chris you've got some really good ideas about education and it's great to see. Looking back on my education from the start of High School to the end of University could have been done much more effectively. In fact, just yesterday digging through old documents I found my final report card from High School and the common remarks were "Scott can not process simple problems and lacks any interest in the subject". I failed most of the classes. Fast forward 16 years and I've got that Masters of Architecture, I've designed and works on projects for rich and famous all over the world. My point is when you conform to a 1 size fits all education, when you aren't surrounded by people equally passionate about what you are doing, you are taking the hard road not the easy road. When you break away from what you are forced to learn and pursue and you chase what you want in the way you want to pursue it, this is where crazy growth happens. You know where you are going because you are writing your own story, not reading someone else's book.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Society wants you to play in a neat little box. And if you don't conform, you get crushed. Glad you made it.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Problem is, I don't like rules. Who wants to get on this ship of pirates?
@ScottValentine7 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Rules implies everything outside of the rules is wrong. Whereas we know in design there is no right and wrong, only a bunch of ideas that eventually become 1 idea.
@iz94947 жыл бұрын
Truth! I really loved how you said (especially in a creative job where our creations shows our skills) that why don't we hire someone to shadow...it could just be someone local who we think they have great skills. If we are willing to enter a contract with interest for 100,000 which for most students will end up being a bank why not just go through an apprentice who is doing the job we want to on a daily basis.
@christianludwig10743 жыл бұрын
This content is really amazing. I’ve actually thought about doing exactly what he was talking about but I don’t have money for school or mentorship. So it’s time to build up some funds.
@fairlyagile7 жыл бұрын
this channel is amazing and I'm not even a graphic designer, a lot of value here. I'm an industrial engineer but I'm very interested in graphic design. so happy I found your channel, thank you!!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
we're happy to have you. Welcome!
@julyol1197 жыл бұрын
I just realised that I listen to your videos actually not so much for informational reasons, but for metrication. Here in Germany the education is generally free (aside of private universities that you can go to if you want some prestige or if your grades aren't good enough for public universities - usually not worth it though). If going or not going is better for making a living as a designer is still a valuable question for me. Your discussion is still very interesting, even is money is not so much of a problem here.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
what does metrication mean?
@mkdesigns54945 жыл бұрын
i just wanted to say thank you for teaching us like everything completly for free ... i am a freelancer and i dont have money to even buy courses online so .. that's really helpfull and i promise you guys that when i will succeed i will support you as much i can to help other people like you did to me!
@uriahocean69682 жыл бұрын
Paid a ton of money to be inspired, find connections, make networking opportunities, learn soft skills, learn Adobe, get a portfolio all to get a job, learning problem solving, entrepreneurship, find your voice and on and on and on and on...
@Forrest1367 жыл бұрын
The idea of paying mentors to teach me is the same concept as college to me. My professors have all been designers for a very long time, have all been in different fields and I am paying to have them teach and mentor me. I get the added benefit of being surrounded by designers my age who can view my art and critique it based on our generational similarities. My program has cut down to 30 designers out of 150 applicants over the past 3 years, and the teachers treat our classroom as if we are already working in a design studio with 15 other designers. I wish everyone had this great of an experience from their education but I understand many are taught by professors who half-ass everything and don't inspire their students to go above and beyond the classroom standards.
@Forrest1367 жыл бұрын
I will add that many people from my program go on to intern/work for places like Fossil, the Smithsonian, Pentagram, and a lot of the studios in Dallas. We graduate few designers but the ones that make it through are amazing.
@moamenali76267 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you Chris, besides 'how did philosophy improved' merely all philosophers were coached/mentored by older ones, since there were no schools yet 'with structured curriculum' or education with "one fits all!" mindset. Nevertheless, Athene had the highest sophisticated philosophers whom have had change the whole world... P.S. I've decided to drop out of Tourism university in 2007, guess what I'm working in motion design and learning UX and some codding to support today's tech rush...
@jasminec62697 жыл бұрын
Great video. I literally just had this conversation with a friend yesterday. And this something continue to struggle with working in corporate America. Love this video, for sure sharing!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Glad we were able to be a part of your thinking process.
@aditihaldankar47576 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that this topic had been discussed profoundly by you guys. I like your shirt Chris.
@thefutur6 жыл бұрын
thanks.
@ScriptureClips3 жыл бұрын
There is a lot of foundational stuff that you learn in school or may pick up after years of work experience that many with self taught skills just don't tend to understand. A lot of it has to do with thinking, or process but there is value in that. Especially in terms of time value.
@ayarkatsi6 жыл бұрын
I think the most important thing you get by going to design school is the process of self devoloping. Get to know your self, who you are, how much passion do you feel about desing and if it is worth enough to make for living.
@albenjammin7 жыл бұрын
OMG Chris, I have been yelling this concept of school being the worst way to learn at kids and their parents since I started working in this industry. I have yet for anyone to try apprenticeship. Even AFTER they having been offered an apprenticeship by industry professionals.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
No need to yell, but glad we are talking about it now.
@barzolaalfredo7 жыл бұрын
wow...hands down one of the best advices of 2016 I have heard so far. thanks for the great insights!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
#boom. we released this just in time to reflect on 2016 as we head in 17.
@baybay12347 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, thanks for another insightful episode. I couldn't agree more with the points you've laid out, especially the part where you encourage the students to get out of their comfort zone and call their heros and ask for opportunities. Frankly, I first learnt to do this when I heard about the Steve jobs story, when called up Hewlett Packard to see if he got any spare parts left over so he could build a frequency counter, and not only he got what he wanted but he was given a summer job at HP. That story inspired me and I've never shied away from asking for an opportunity. Anyways, just want to share my thoughts on the subject. Awesome vids, please keep them coming! Thanks
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Never hurts to ask right? What's the worst that can happen? Unfortunately, most of us get stuck and never ask.
@baybay12347 жыл бұрын
One more thing I want to point out is that most people have the tendency of overthinking about the difficulty of a task before even trying, and that's the same reason that separates those who are successful in what they do and those who are half committed. In the case of contacting your hero, the point is not how likely are they going to answer your call, it's rather how badly do you want that opportunity, that you are willing to go that extra mile knowing the result is not guaranteed.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
#Truth
@benjaminhopkins48843 жыл бұрын
This is great, and echo's how I have felt for years. I was the guy who went to the no name school. I've done very well in furniture design without a degree in furniture design. I've interviewed many art center graduates as a design director, and never did I hire them over those who exhibited more grit and determination. I am not saying a 6 figure degree is useless, but is it worth that much if there is another way? A better way?
@valentinamendoza59657 жыл бұрын
This idea of paying mentors reminds me of the Podcast episode of Don't Keep Your Day Job with professional comedian and actor Wayne Federman... who sent a postcard every month I think? ... to the agent he really wanted for A YEAR. He didn't get validation right away, didn't get an answer, but he kept trying to work with the people he KNEW he wanted to work for. He knew what kind of people he wanted to learn from and be around and took it into his own hands. It wasn't his degree that got him where he is. It was his persistence in everything he encountered.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
yes. persistence can win people over.
@auguste34897 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thank you so much for this video. This is exactly what is happen in my university. I will to talk to them trying to do something like you do in this session. I'm still working on record the classes and talks to show you. Thank you again for each video.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
you're welcome. good luck with it.
@micahhansen7 жыл бұрын
Lol. Love the girl with green hair rolling her eyes at 13:01.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
😁
@iamnak7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the point of view on education.
@ayeshaamin68406 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from this channel. You’re truly an inspiration to me, Chris. I would love to meet you if I ever come to the US. 🙈
@thefutur6 жыл бұрын
i'm traveling the world so maybe i'll see you first.
@monicapulido57097 жыл бұрын
Whoooo!!!! I never thought about this! I mean totally had this backwards, If you also pay a mentor and you can get first hand experience in addition the person that is teaching you will feel more valuable therefore teach you more. I think also school teach to general this days and going to a specific industry requires specific skills. In resumes I do not see people asking for schools but more so the experience you have working in places. I am going to star saving some money and find you.
@beunlimited75756 жыл бұрын
I've been binging your videos since 1 AM. I need rehab because I can't stop consuming information.
@carinagergely93997 жыл бұрын
if i remember correctly, that one apprentice who offered money to trump just to shadow him and learn from him, still got rejected...and from my point of view his approach was a bit too aggressive and annoying (i would've tried to find other ways to approach a potential mentor)....besides this, your point is as valid as it gets. Thank you for all your videos. I have some friends who keep pushing me to continue with a master degree ( i only have a bachelor degree, and i was very disappointed with the quality and quantity of information throughout those 3 years of study....I have learned more about the design industry after i graduated, by reading, doing tutorials, watching online seminars from your youtube channel, trying to make a shot on design contests from 99 designs, etc. ). So, thank you for this video.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Carina Gergely you are right. He was too pushy. He was rejected on the show but I think trump took him on after.
@purplebunny2227 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am a high school senior that is currently applying for art schools, but discovering your videos (this one particularly), makes me scared. It's scary to spend 10k on a mentor, that cannot guarantee a job. There is a mindset that going to college and working hard will be a safer option. I am looking into motion graphics, but you've mentioned that this industry is dwindling.. I am just very scared about my future. I don't know what I should do. All my life I've been living in a small bubble full of academically driven people, who are now applying to very prestigious colleges. Any other path, is really unthinkable. I am grateful for your videos, they've opened my eyes. I know i need to stay strong. Everything in front of me right now is just so daunting.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
fortune favors the bold. there are no guarantees in life. all i know is that i want to have the best teachers. so go where the best teachers are. that makes sense right?
@purplebunny2227 жыл бұрын
I thank you for being so interactive with your audience. It makes sense to do this when you have a clear goal in mind. Maybe it's still an intimidating idea for me because I am not 100% committed to pursuing Motion Graphics as a career. I talked to people who did go to college and they all told me that once I attend, I will meet so many other people, opportunities, and paths. It's nice to know that if I do not get into art college, its not that big of a deal.
@timlong69657 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for all the useful information. I would love to attend one of these talks live. I just wish I knew how! But nevertheless, you guys are great! You guys continually help me in my growth in more ways than you know! Keep up the awesomeness!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Follow our FB page. We post these talks on Eventbrite as well.
@Crick2x97 жыл бұрын
There is one flaw with the spending 100K on mentors as opposed to art school argument(not defending art schools): Getting the money. Most of these people (including my self) do not (did not, and will not) have the money. Conventional loans are virtually impossible to get when you're young (ask your average 20 something year old what their credit score is and their yearly income if any, and watch them being laughed at at the bank). Enter Federal money (Pell grants), government subsidized loans, and private loan sharks (Sallie Mae). You get free money to go to school (Federal Pellgrants for public University and colleges only), Government subsidized loans (which I used to take extra classes at a private school while going to a Cal State), and in case you want to go to a private art school that is not accredited, enter the private loan scheme. Most of these loans offer some sort of repayment plan and all you need is a promissory note to get, which is literally a signed piece of paper in which you state you'll pay the money back. (and pay them you will, one cannot get rid of student loans through bankruptcy, and if you don't pay they will garnish your wages). Try and get that money from those entities and tell them the mentor plan. Good luck getting your money. The mentor idea, while fiscally sound, is just not realistic. The irony is that these programs created to facilitate paying for education have created these predatory private schools like the Art institutes, and others. There are some that are REALLY good, but I don't care what anyone says about art schools, they are all incredibly overpriced.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
good point. not necessary a flaw. i'm not saying that you shouldn't go to school. i just want people to think about the value that they're getting and hold themselves and the schools accountable.
@Crick2x97 жыл бұрын
The problem is that these schools over value what they offer (and pretend to offer) because the quality of our choices are so out of proportion. Think about your average Junior College or state University: their art programs (if any) are mediocre at best. I was lucky enough to find a private school that offered classes a la carte to make up for the lack of quality education (in my case 3D animation) I was receiving at my state university. Most private schools know this, so they charge an astronomical amount of money for their classes. That is starting to change a bit with online education, unfortunately not everyone (including myself) does not do very well with a virtual setting. Personally the ability to be able to talk to my teacher face to face, point at what I'm having problems with, and get an answer instantly is wonderful, as opposed to having to type the issue in a private forum and wait a day or two for the teacher to get around to answer my question.
@anelajankovic13307 жыл бұрын
Wow this really blew my mind. I find all your videos so helpful, I would say they're the best resource for designers on youtube. At the end it seems that those who want to work and want to learn will succeed. Even if you do go to design school, that means nothing without your own passion and struggle. But are the "old school art classes" thought in many design schools(anatomy drawing, painting..) important for development of graphic design skills(centered mostly around web design and adobe package)? Is there a value in learning those? Keep up the amazing work!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Yes. Foundational courses like figure drawing, sketching, perspective are very helpful (to me atleast). While others were a waste of time.
@anelajankovic13307 жыл бұрын
The Futur Thanks for your reply! Maybe for very young designers this seems like unnecessary, because we want to mess with the software more..
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Angela FlyingUnicorn you are wasting money by learning software at school. You can learn it from Lynda.com and others for $25/mo.
@HardipPatelD7 жыл бұрын
Its just exhilarating to watch you guide everyone from A to B. Especially I love how you convey your thoughts and it makes me feel if I could just do that. In this particular video you mentioned that you have taken training to learn to speak in a more organised and direct sense. Can you please recommend some course or is there any particular profession/process that teaches to explain like you explain?
@cece42267 жыл бұрын
This is an Amazing Lecture, thanks Chris Do, for your wisdom, selflessness, and for making these youtube videos! You're the best! :)
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome Courtney.
@gillianthedesigner7 жыл бұрын
I know this is direct towards the creative field, but I think I am going to direct some of my friends in other fields to this. Even though in my group of friends we all have pretty different fields, we often have similar complaints. Maybe this video can help them out with their educational pursuits.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
I think this is about changing the education system to work for people. We talk about it in the context of design, but it could easily apply to another field.
@angironi7 жыл бұрын
I loved this and think it's such a refreshing outlook on modern education. Yet, my only question is how would one come up with $100k to pay for mentorships/travel vs. FAFSA/grants for education? That is the only catch I see with this platform. Otherwise it's a wonderful thought!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
the government should issue vouchers for education allowing individuals to pick their instruction a la carte. that would be the way. but i don't have the money solution.
@konzzz7 жыл бұрын
awesome videos! good thing I stumbled into your channel before diving into freelance work 100%. Didn't go to any art school though.
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
conrado estinor hope we validated your decision not to.
@robynhoodliving88626 жыл бұрын
I kinda followed this model a month ago. I want to be Architect and Interior Designer then I began to consciously buy more books, make vision boards prepare my self as an architect by dressing the part studying from other Architects on KZbin. Two months ago I seen a Architecture firm in my mother’s neighborhood that i hadn’t noticed. I got excited and I look up their website, read everything about the architects and owner that work their. The next week I knocked on the door and pretty much told them I’m an inspiring architect and I plan on going to school but am in need of advice. They gave me some advise on school. Then I just all the way in and asked can I work for free even if that means getting coffee! They said the did have the money to pay me even though I asked to work for free. We had some laughs and they said they think about as I gave them my contact. Two weeks past no calls or email from them then I decide to get the courage to email them expressing the assets that I can bring to their firm with customer service, great eye for design etc. that was Saturday. Monday they called me asked did I get their email of them accepting my offer! So a month later, I have my own desk and IMac in his beautiful office and I’ve already learned so much. I’m ordering samples, tile, wall paper (my choices) I’m learning excel. Now here this, they asked to hire me full-time and they feel I can do the local interior jobs for clients because I have a great eye and they see that through my clothes etc. So here what’s I’m dealing with. They don’t want to invest in me and I run off to college and leave them hanging. Understandable. But becoming an Architect means years of school, interning and big tests. School or no school?!
@Emaleign7 жыл бұрын
oh my gosh, I have always believed in reaching out and finding mentors. But, I have never thought about reaching out to my heros and offering to pay for shadowing! I will definitely try this out until I find someone that will agree to let me shadow them. That kind of education would be better than the best art school!
@itstheresale5 жыл бұрын
My new number one channel!!!!! Thank you 😊
@thefutur5 жыл бұрын
Yay!!!
@Steve-tl5ii7 жыл бұрын
Well I don't know about the rest of you but completely shattered my whole concept of school
@ChrisSmith-ke3tb7 жыл бұрын
I have strong need for knocking right now :) So inspirational. I hope, someday I'll knock to your company doors, Chris
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
Chris Smith excellent. Looking forward to it.
@kewalajmera93767 жыл бұрын
hey!! i just loved the video and it changed my mindset completely.I just wanted to ask what do u do after working under the star role models rather than going to a proper art school.How do u approach other big companies without a degree?
@catherinewang91835 жыл бұрын
The proposal of videoing super figures and then distributing those videos eerily resembles the school system in Russian author Zamyatin's "We", an incredibly famous Russian dystopian novel published in 1924. The videos were played for the whole class, and there were supervisors who answered the students' questions. However, that dystopian society also denounced creativity and nonconformist thinking (basically an extreme form of socialism). It's pretty interesting that you are using this video teaching example as a way to further creativity and independence within people.
@jackorebaugh67334 жыл бұрын
You are a true inspiration and I am going to do this right now
@liamrainford72407 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Great idea. Thank you Chris!
@thefutur7 жыл бұрын
you're welcome Liam. Next vid might leave you in tears. no joke.