SHOULD YOU INVEST IN THE UMBREON VMAX ALT ART?

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@danhallas3546
@danhallas3546 5 ай бұрын
You’re not really looking at it the proper way. Just because there are 7k+ perfect 10 copies of umbreon and only 1k+ of the blaziken vmax doesn’t mean that the blaziken is rarer. Yeah there might be less perfect copies out there but it doesn’t mean that there are less total copies of it vs umbreon. Now granted none of us have the actual print numbers per se, but I would venture to guess that they tried printing the same amount of the alt arts (for each set) throughout the sword and shield era. Meaning if they printed 50k of the blaziken they probably printed that same amount of umbreons and other various vmax alt arts 🤷‍♂️ and probably the same with the alt art v’s (which I could see them maybe printing more of the v’s than the vmax alts). The reason why there are 7k+ 10’s of the umbreon is purely because collectors know that it carries a lot of value and why not increase that value and try for a 10? The 20-30$ that it costs to send in and get graded isn’t going to eat into the value of the card you’re sending in when it’s already 600$+ raw. So even if you only get a 9 or 8 it’s not going to eat into your profits like it would on a less valuable card like the blaziken. Basically what I’m saying is people are more likely to send the umbreon in to get graded vs other alt arts and that’s why you are getting these high pop counts on it vs other alts. Just because there are 7k+ 10’s out doesn’t mean ES was printed any better than any other sword & shield set it (because like you stated if that were the case there would most likely be more rayquaza’s and various other vmax alts from that set but there aren’t). It’s the biggest card in a while and all the collectors want it for their collections so don’t think just because there are that many 10s out there that they’re just going to be sold left and right because a lot of these people want it in their personal collections and that’s where a lot of them will stay (unless they’re consistently going for 10k a pop 😆) I don’t see these collectors letting these go from their PC’s for a long while 🤷‍♂️
@Erwinbonkington1
@Erwinbonkington1 Жыл бұрын
I personally think it will be worth a fortune in the next 10 years, so will the booster boxes. You have to look at the reprints. If it gets reprinted then the prices will most likely drop a tad, although last time they reprinted evolving skies the moonbreon carried on rising. Also, I very much doubt they will reprint again, which in this case they will carry on shooting up, especially the booster boxes as lots of people are keeping them sealed. Personally dude, I’d 100% get a moonbreon now whilst you still can without paying silly money like £10,000 like it probably will be in the next 10-15 years in a PSA 10. BGS 10 has sold for £12,000+ already.
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 6 ай бұрын
It will never be 10k again. The BGS 10 was a black label and the price has since collapsed.
@dougiehits1938
@dougiehits1938 5 күн бұрын
I view this card like the Fleer 1986 Jordan Rookie card. It’s not rare, however, highly desirable. I think in 10-20 years; this will be in the same boat
@dylanolberg5950
@dylanolberg5950 Жыл бұрын
It’s a crowd favorite and 6k pop is not that crazy when everyone wants it
@Caligrown92511
@Caligrown92511 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, with the Pokemom community growing more and more by the year, 6k pop is absolutely nothing
@jamesgregory1255
@jamesgregory1255 Жыл бұрын
6/7k I can't believe it's that's low that crazy lol
@tyleremond3342
@tyleremond3342 10 ай бұрын
9k now lol
@hbpromking04
@hbpromking04 6 ай бұрын
They need to stop printing this
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 6 ай бұрын
Over 10k now. That is very high.
@heyitsmattox6509
@heyitsmattox6509 11 ай бұрын
I agree, the population report is insane, but the demand is there so that helps in a way.
@rhylechner525
@rhylechner525 3 ай бұрын
This card seems to evolved into a poster child of the hobby and is being regarded as the face of the S&S era. It has quite literally become an NFT for one of the largest and most profitable TCG franchises ever to exist. But the cool thing, you can actually hold it. And so can others. I don’t think the popularity of this card is going to wane very quickly, there is too much money and desire and legend around it now. If anything it will hold value because of said money. No one is going to spend that much on a card just to give it up for less, that isn’t realistic. And the funny thing about it is that everyone holding the cards decide the price. Not going to say it will sell at that, but hey maybe it will.
@Erwinbonkington1
@Erwinbonkington1 Жыл бұрын
So tbh I think you’re completely wrong about the Umbreon dude no offence. Personally, I’d buy now or it will be so expensive. Remember, lots of people will keep this sealed product for the future, which means it will shoot up in price continuously. Also, they aren’t printing evolving skies again, which also means it will shoot up in price.
@JornvanHoorn
@JornvanHoorn 8 ай бұрын
Exactly how I feel about it, great card. But very tricky in terms of investment...
@doneropersaud1607
@doneropersaud1607 5 күн бұрын
Whether we like to hear this or not that Umbreon will fetch 4k prices in a few years from now.
@whowhatwhy91
@whowhatwhy91 5 ай бұрын
This card has a high pop count because of submission not because of print quantity. Popularity is what drives market value not population.
@C_mey
@C_mey 3 ай бұрын
Today i went to my LHS and was looking to purchase Select Basketball for Wemby hunting. I saw the one & only Evolving Skies pack sitting under the Glass shelf. I asked how much they said $15. I ended up purchasing. Went home and ripped it. Unbelievable i hit the Umbreon Vmax Alt and its beautiful. Centering looks perfect. Surface looks perfect and thats under a Microscope too. Should i submit to get graded and hold? Should i hold Raw? Should i grade & Sell now? Or should i sell Raw now? Lmk your opinion please!? I heard Your vid so just need your opinion personally thanks so much
@pedroesquivias4364
@pedroesquivias4364 3 ай бұрын
I have an evolving skies booster box and wondering if I should save it, sell it or open it. Thoughts ?
@derdn5943
@derdn5943 Жыл бұрын
Now I want to buy it even more. But the channel is kinda interesting
@Erwinbonkington1
@Erwinbonkington1 Жыл бұрын
There may be 7000 out there, but remember, there’s millions of Pokémon collectors so 7000 is absolutely nothing. The chance you’ve got of pulling this card is almost impossible. Stats show that you have 1 out of 1200 packs to pull this card. In the uk evolving skies is around £12-£13 a pack so probably 20 dollars to get 1 pack of evolving skies booster pack. So 1200 booster packs would be well over £22,000 in British sterling. Or 40,000 dollars in packs in the US. Believe me, this card in 10 years time will be worth thousands in a 10.
@budgetcardbreaks
@budgetcardbreaks Жыл бұрын
I have the pop 2 pristine 20 umbreon Xmaz what shouldnitnsekkxfor
@tinderfury90
@tinderfury90 Жыл бұрын
Channel deff deserves more subs and hype Good opinions on investments based on a more artistic side of things Keep it up mate😁
@siosio6935
@siosio6935 Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to pull this card in my first booster box. I lost my shit. I can’t believe how much it’s worth now. My personal favorite card.
@666HH14
@666HH14 11 ай бұрын
I pulled it twice within 5 packs. I almost had a heart attack
@Nemo504Pokemon
@Nemo504Pokemon Жыл бұрын
Bro you sound like me I’m trying to get at least 10 PSA Charizard V Alt out away, about to order my first this week have it ungraded in my sons collection already
@Nemo504Pokemon
@Nemo504Pokemon Жыл бұрын
I love the Rainbow Charizard and Alt brilliant stars I’m trying to get 10 of both PSA 10
@karoonan
@karoonan Жыл бұрын
I want to be remembered as an OG, when your channel blows up in popularity
@JSLCollectibles
@JSLCollectibles Жыл бұрын
LOL hopefully one day🫶🏼
@ValueForeCasT
@ValueForeCasT 3 ай бұрын
My dears, everything gets more expensive over time, even food. pokemon is number 1 general sales are sick. Even if it drops a little, over time it will become more expensive than anything else in the world. and the PoP up is extremely high which however shows it is popular like nothing else. 2020 was the turning point in Pokemon. a new generation is coming. Umbreon will be at 3-5k in 10-15 years and good BGS 10 5-6k. Black Label at 15-20K. Our children today will have stable jobs in 10 years and then buy their childhood cards, and there is Umbreon like our Charizard back then. + Charizard was in every 2 boxes but Umbreon 50+ boxes. whether tomorrow or in 2 years it doesn't matter at all. The plan is 10 years and believe me you will wish you had paid 1k today. lg
@TheMeatwade
@TheMeatwade 11 ай бұрын
I pulled my Umbreon vmax alt art from my very first single hanging back a few months ago. It was hidden in between other packs and was the last one. When pulled i had no idea what it was and had to look it up. Funny i spent $5 which was in store credit from a trade for the card. When people havw spent hundreds if not thousands on finding it. Pulled an Espeon vmax alt art a week earlier in my first 3 fusion strike packs from another in store credit trade.
@kylemcclelland6109
@kylemcclelland6109 Жыл бұрын
Love the content my guy
@JSLCollectibles
@JSLCollectibles Жыл бұрын
means to most man! thank you
@airdrifter9578
@airdrifter9578 Жыл бұрын
So funny you put this out , im currently considering buying this card raw or like 4 other alt art cards >?....side note; In my opinion i think the other Umbreon V from ES is a better card than the moonbreon , just sayin
@shinygiveaways1920
@shinygiveaways1920 Жыл бұрын
We are in the junk wax era of pokemon
@Caligrown92511
@Caligrown92511 Жыл бұрын
I believe we will always be in the junk wax era for now on. The card community has grown sooooo much since covid
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 6 ай бұрын
I agree. A lot of these investors are going to get burned eventually.
@zone4ocp923
@zone4ocp923 4 ай бұрын
It's selling for 1k now
@Fredtherock87
@Fredtherock87 3 ай бұрын
Bro was right 💀
@gescheiterterkunstler
@gescheiterterkunstler 6 ай бұрын
charizard v n blaziken vmax are great
@commisarcat7418
@commisarcat7418 Жыл бұрын
wait last vid you said evolving skies was one of the best investments and now your saying the chase card isnt worth the investment?.? my math aint mathin
@JSLCollectibles
@JSLCollectibles Жыл бұрын
if you zoom out evolving skies is the best set to invest in, if you buy it at a good price. just because i think one card is over valued doesn’t mean the set is. there’s alot of hype with the umbreon vmax and has a huge population. evolving is a huge set with more then one chase card. also long term i think the rayquaza vmax would be a more expensive psa 10 down the road.
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
Sealed boxes get opened so they become scarcer whereas singles become more abundant as packs get opened. Not that sealed is risk free but modern sealed beats modern singles.
@FlyKnight_Official
@FlyKnight_Official 9 ай бұрын
Wait, OMG I HAVE THAT CARD! It came in my first Pack of Pokemon cards which I bought for 150 rupees in India, pls tell should I collect it or sell? If I wanna sell so what will be the right time to sell?
@alexpostyoutube
@alexpostyoutube 5 ай бұрын
Do not sell it’s a long term hold get it graded if u haven’t already. This card is going to the moon 🌙
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
Sell while it's being hyped, like right now. Don't be one of the delusional ones that thinks this card is going to 10k. Take the win.
@rosettaaraara6633
@rosettaaraara6633 Жыл бұрын
lol i prefer the Umbreon V TG over moonbreon anyday
@christiandelacruz7634
@christiandelacruz7634 Жыл бұрын
Same bc Karen is in it.
@Faber0k
@Faber0k 4 ай бұрын
I have 3 of those tg umbreon vmax with karen. Only have 1 moonbreon.
@dylanbanocy7729
@dylanbanocy7729 7 ай бұрын
Disagree brilliant stars charizard is super boring.... but I'm not a big fan of moonbreon either but still feel the need to have it in my collection
@kingslayya6876
@kingslayya6876 Жыл бұрын
were gonna have to talk about charizard v
@JSLCollectibles
@JSLCollectibles Жыл бұрын
you don’t like?
@kingslayya6876
@kingslayya6876 Жыл бұрын
@@JSLCollectibles its really nice. i think theres alot of good charizards this series which could dilute its potential.. but the market will decide :)
@TheMeatwade
@TheMeatwade 11 ай бұрын
Debating on selling my Umbreon vmax alt art.
@raypurchase1239
@raypurchase1239 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like your trying convince yourself not to buy it because of your doubt.
@cryptomon86
@cryptomon86 5 ай бұрын
Glad i listened to no one and bought 4 psa10s under 800
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
@@cryptomon86 Good work. Now sell into the hype.
@cryptomon86
@cryptomon86 5 ай бұрын
U worry about your bags
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
@@cryptomon86 Excuse me?
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
@@cryptomon86 How rude.
@alexpostyoutube
@alexpostyoutube 5 ай бұрын
This was a bad video man this card is a great investment
@DubstopherWubson13
@DubstopherWubson13 7 ай бұрын
did you just compare a 2 year old card with a 10 year old card and say you see too much of the 2 year old card and not enough of the 10? lmao
@JSLCollectibles
@JSLCollectibles 7 ай бұрын
exactly! look up the population reports
@DubstopherWubson13
@DubstopherWubson13 7 ай бұрын
@@JSLCollectibles Idk I just invested $600 in a cgc graded gem mint 10 umbreon max alt art so I'm just gonna hope for my sake that this card goes up lol
@pokemoncatcher2566
@pokemoncatcher2566 Жыл бұрын
no u should not it prob gonna lose vallue ..
@alexpostyoutube
@alexpostyoutube 5 ай бұрын
Lol definitely not losing any value price is now at 1,000 and going up
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
@@alexpostyoutube It's still in it's hype phase. Don't get drawn into the hype.
@christophermillett2273
@christophermillett2273 Жыл бұрын
Population means nothing in modern cards. This card is extremely sought after by millions of collectors. This card will only rise in value. $500-$600 is alot of money for most people, but the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow will make it all worth it.
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 6 ай бұрын
Population means very little in the short term but it means everything in the long term. Popularity changes over time.
@cryptomon86
@cryptomon86 5 ай бұрын
Lmao!
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful card but a terrible investment.
@alexpostyoutube
@alexpostyoutube 5 ай бұрын
This didn’t age well LMAOOO this is by far one of best cards to invest in I got mine for 580 and market is now at 1000+ on eBay market 😍
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
​@@alexpostyoutube Didn't age well? It was 3 weeks ago. I wrote this when it was at 1000+. Come back in 10 years and then we'll talk.
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
​@@alexpostyoutube I'd advise you to sell and take the win. Holding for the long term is foolish. Unless you just want it for your collection then fair enough.
@alexpostyoutube
@alexpostyoutube 5 ай бұрын
@@monkey39128 why is it foolish to hold? Especially for a card and booster set that won’t get reprinted? Make it make sense
@monkey39128
@monkey39128 5 ай бұрын
@@alexpostyoutube 10000+ PSA 10's is a huge pop report. Relatively speaking it's a fairly common card. Now it may hold at the same value or go up but is it going to beat the S&P 500 or other investments? It's a card that's got a lot of hype behind it right now. If demand drops at all is it going to be able to hold at the same price? With that many out there it wouldn't take much of a shift to flood the market. It's a lovely card and will probably always be expensive but it would be extremely unusual for such a common card to keep going up. If you think it can beat 8-10% a year then go for it. I occasionally make high risk investments to. Nothing wrong with it I'm just explaining my thought process. It all comes down to interest. If you love the card then great but I promise you there are easier ways to make money.
@PokePackFire
@PokePackFire Жыл бұрын
umbreon is a powerful shadow cat. people will hoard this card.
@YuckNasty
@YuckNasty Жыл бұрын
Moonbreon also both demographics of gender. Its a black cat trying to paw at the moon… rayquaza might be rare but it is ugly copy of him
@benwillcock1891
@benwillcock1891 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
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