Should You Now Join The Marines Over The Army??

[@rickbarnes7745]

I was a Marine infantry platoon commander in the '70s. My guys thought they were tough until we spent a day with Recon. They showed us that we couldn't keep up and that we weren't as tough as we thought we were. Each branch has their elite and then their regular guys who are just a reflection of society at large. Marines have Recon and now Raiders, Navy has Seals, Army has Rangers and Green Berets, Air Force has their Parajumpers, Coast Guard has Rescue Swimmers. All these have endured physical and mental stress that would break most people. So all this talk about which branch is toughest is just a bunch of baloney.

[@alexanderwinters5531]

Yep. It generally depends more on MOS, unit type and individual than it does on branch, though I do appreciate the USMC's efforts to instill an infantry-ish ethic in its non-infantry MOS. People often seem averse to nuanced, or even worse, dichotomous, reality; most people seem to prefer simple, binary illusions. -- a former US Army parachute infantry light weapons sergeant...who jumped a 110-lbs. ruck into the pitch-black and then humped it 20 or 30 miles over mountains and through swamps on a regular basis

[@1619-k8n]

Oh, Really devil dog? YOU BETTER THINK AGAIN! SEMPER FIDELIS....

[@rickbarnes7745]

@@1619-k8n Yeah really.

[@1619-k8n]

@@rickbarnes7745 😒 unlike yourself I’ve served in 2 other branches besides The USMC. And trust me the rumors are true. Semper..

[@rickbarnes7745]

@@1619-k8n If that's true, then the standards in the other branches must be pretty low. In the '70s the Marine Corps was pretty bad; low morale, widespread drug use, and constant UA. Just about every week we would bring the dogs through the barracks or even to formation before we went out in the field, and we would catch guys with weed. I spent more time dealing with disciplinary issues than I did training my Marines for combat. It was horrible. Part of the reason for that I believe is that the court system was giving offenders the option of enlisting in the Corps or going to jail. In our drug and anti-authoritarian state we couldn't have beaten a den of cub scouts in a war. Just to correct your assertation, both my Dad and my oldest brother were in the Army and my next oldest brother was in the Air Force. None of them could match my description of the problems we had. Even as a Navy midshipman aboard a destroyer in 1972, I didn't notice the bad attitude in the Navy that I experienced later in my battalion. I don't mean to dis the Marines, but I think for the most part they are full of themselves with their cocky attitude. Getting yelled at louder than the other services in boot camp does not make you a better warrior.

[@CNoteTheFragranceGuy6333]

Doesn’t matter what branch you are in. you are still serving, you still bleed red.

[@moderatorhollowbird]

Touching

[@abuddyofmine2524]

Yes it does

[@justinnewcomb2279]

But the thing is, one is bleeding from a paper cut from a SHARP meeting attendance form, and the other is bleeding from two slaps from a DI and a IED...

[@ttman6197]

Still a a vet still a warrior still American

[@SV-kr9fu]

@@justinnewcomb2279 : To be honest, I would rather be bleeding from a paper cut over getting slapped or getting blown up.

[@TheDeepsix13]

As a Marine, I must say I respect your honesty and candidness when speaking of the Army's new basic training schedule and guidelines. Each branch makes fun of each other, but in a cousinly way of course. And if it's a "shark attack" you guys that are thinking about going in truly want, the Marine Corps will give you 13 weeks of it every single day... Semper Fun

[@alexanderwinters5531]

Yeah, my drills at Benning were all just former combat-experienced paratroopers, rangers and Special Forces, they were teddy bears. =] Branch talk is meaningless. MOS and unit types are what matters. -- a former parachute infantry light weapons sergeant

[@jamebrooke894]

As a Marine Veteran of the 1970s When I was discharged I held 5 MOS and spent time TAD to STA PLT. My family has been in every WAR since 1777 with the ARMY. FEELS GOOD TO PUSH MY FAMILIES EXPECTATIONS OF ME. EITHER WAY IT'S ARMY OR MARINES IF YOU WANT TO TEST YOUR METAL.

[@jordancody6047]

As a Marine myself, I respect all branches we are all in it together. However, the Marine Corps is not like it used to be as well.

[@skymningforelsket1302]

If the shark attack is what you truly want... LOL

[@thesemi-interestingpodcast6116]

Dude this was like perfect timing with my thoughts.

[@hannamarie1157]

Fuckin felt

[@thepepsidrink7756]

Yeah fax bro in fact im going to talk to a Marine Recruiter in like 20 minutes😂. Gonna weigh my options between Army and Crayons

[@amt318]

I swear 😂

[@jahvarquire7926]

What did you decide to do

[@wolfgang1255]

I’m stuck on the army but leaning towards marines such a touch choice to me

[@kingcarlos7048]

The USMC is changing a lot too. They just handed over all their tanks to the army, and they're restructuring to reflect the Marine Corps of the 80s

[@MrStaybrown]

Hell yea, all new boots get a beat down! Charley Horses for earning bloodstripes, no backing on chevrons!

[@poweraverage5773]

But they are getting suppressors and a new rifle

[@l2557]

the marines is being pussy now

[@GHOST-zy3ji]

They also are eliminated the MP MOS

[@sethheaddress2651]

Nah

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

I don’t think it’s a matter of being soft or not, I think the army is just doing what they can to make sure they keep up the numbers. Joining the military isn’t something a lot of young people are into nowadays, so the army just wants to make sure those that actually do want to join will get in...no matter if they should be able to join or not lol, but I’ve met plenty of folks who shouldn’t be in the military who are, so it is what it is I guess. Gotta do what you gotta do to keep those numbers up lol

[@thefrozzie5970]

I’m 14, and I have talked to my friends, Gen Z has a sentiment against the military, seeing it as a punishment etc. I think it’s just that most of us didn’t grow up with 9/11 being so recently, a lot of us don’t understandz

[@07i83]

yes accurate fUtURE sOlDiER here

[@Rangerman69420]

True, nobody ever wants to talk to the recruiters when they come to my school and it's not like it's just the scary Army and Marine recruiters, basically every branch including their respective guard or reserve counter parts come to and they get barley anybody.

[@cameronash5492]

That's really fucking depressing and quite scary.

[@cameronash5492]

@Matthew R. Mendez Really sucks to say it but all great nations eventually do fall.

[@HeyItsJoe1]

To take something old Jocko said on his podcast. You shouldn't join a branch or job because of how hard or how cool the training is, it should be because you want to do that job. At the end of the day I'm going to join the army (national guard) because it's what fits my life and what I want to do. Hopefully I can help elevate those around me to meet the proper fitness requirements lol

[@PointBreak_HLL]

I should have done this lol I joined the marines and I got screwed over by my recruiter I got open contract if I could go back I would’ve switched to the Air Force cause I could have gotten the job I wanted over there

[@JA-qs7jm]

I ended up going navy I got a builder contract so ima be able to experience some “army things” and I want the construction experience for when I get out

[@SV-kr9fu]

And I guess that is one of the reasons why USMC has the worst retention rate out of all military branches.

[@sethheaddress2651]

Good luck brother.

[@michaelmatthias9495]

@@JA-qs7jm did you join the navy to experience army things? Because Troy could’ve done engineering/construction in the army and done actually army things

[@andersontavarez1482]

You should go for the Army if: -You want to become a mechanic, or some sort of engineer. -You want to do artillery or any field stuff. -You want to be a Green Beret or a Ranger. You should join the Navy if: -You are a tech nerd. -You like the sea. -You want to be surrounded by a very traditional military culture. -You like submarines and nukes. You should go for the Air Force if: -You are tech nerd. -You like office jobs. -You like the sky and space. -You like luxury. -You like nuclear weapons. You should join the Marine Corps if: -Your main objective is to be in the battleground. -You like Brotherhood. -You want to wear that luxurious uniform. -You want to join one of the most challenging branch in the entire world.

[@davewave2d2]

Don’t join for these dress blues, barely wear em lol

[@andersontavarez1482]

@@davewave2d2 😂😂

[@andersontavarez1482]

@RF 😂😂😂. The Space Force is very far from being that. Maybe in the future when they get a bigger budget.

[@bagelbob3979]

i mean i plan to join the military but i mean i guess i am kinda nerdy but the sea is not for me

[@bagelbob3979]

i mean i could join Airforce since i'm kinda a nerd but it kinda seems wrong i'm in a nice safe cozy place while my brothers and sisters are dying so most likely ill end up in the marine

[@vel6979]

I guess it’s time for me to enlist with my beer belly I’ll pass basic training with flying colors

[@timotheeyappi3641]

Lol you’re funny, you will get shipped to Alaska and sent on a 4mi run on ice at 6am in the morning 😉. It’s fun join buddy

[@vel6979]

timothee yappi im doing reserves buddy. I’ll go back home right after tech school. You can have fun in Alaska 🤣

[@liveandlearn901]

@@timotheeyappi3641 that sounds kinda cool. Alaska is dope.

[@taylorschott4659]

I,v thought about joining the Marines, but with me being as out of shape as I am, I probably wouldn't make it past basic training. Plus, the army has more influence in the civilian world, and their dress uniforms look more handsome in my opinion.

[@nah6430]

@@timotheeyappi3641 I'm already in Alaska less goo

[@tys17]

All branches are going down this path. Marines recently lowered IOT physical requirements so a woman could finally pass it.

[@Hlooaooaoa]

Which is so stupid women should have the same requirements as men

[@noven8259]

@@Hlooaooaoa women: want equality also women: ok now lower the requirements for me because I'm weaker

[@Hlooaooaoa]

@@noven8259 lmao fr

[@macarthur3169]

@@Hlooaooaoa all it’s doing is weakening our military. We have standards for a reason

[@alexanderwinters5531]

@@Hlooaooaoa The requirements for all branches should be unisex and by MOS. The job dictates the requisite abilities. -- a former parachute infantry light weapons sergeant

[@joejassydowningeorgia]

I spent 8 years in the Marines. It is a small organization. Promotion is harder. The average retirement rank is E-7 for Enlisted and O-4 for Officers (if you are exceptional) The army is E-8 and O-5. That is what you need to look at if you pla guysn to stay 20 years. In the end, the health benefits of 20 years is what's important. Think it through

[@duckthedon4815]

Does that mean the Marines better?

[@AJTramberg]

The 20 year deal isn't offered anymore. Its 401K only now.

[@chevy4x466]

I would not recommend marines or Air Force to a recruit due to the smaller budgets and opportunities. I was in the navy long ago. Currently, I am impressed by the opportunities the army offers

[@geoffsmith76]

@@chevy4x466 I am an old Marine. My son is in the Corps now. His best friend was getting ready to ship out for the AF and they changed his job a week before basic. He is going to now ship for the Marines in a week or two. Comparing the Marines and AF budget is a non-compare. The AF has a massive budget in comparison, but they are very disorganized and honestly a bit slow and lazy to get things done. So yes the Army is probably a good medium for now. Good luck future soldier!

[@RDB11B]

100% Agree with you @MattWard I thought everyday during basic and AIT I wished I had joined the marines due to their professionalism, discipline and high standards. Today I’m 11B and my unit is pretty good so I’m okay.. for now... but I am trying to commission. God willing I can influence what we do at least at my company level

[@AjaniGrim]

I have 7 days to go take my Asvab wish me luck fellows Update I pass so I don’t have to wait 6 month to retake it however my GT score was off by 3point so I’m going take it again

[@c.j.4357]

Good luck! I took mine today and passed.

[@fabiolito28]

Big tip is to guesstimate a lot in the math portion if you're not good at it, you'll be surprised how good you can do by simply using common sense, eliminating obvious wrong answers and guessing as close as possible, I was ass at math my whole life and really almost every subject since I was more into athletics and didn't care for school work, and ended up somehow passing the asvab with an 82, make sure to focus up on the reading portion, and same with assembling objects, make sure you're super zoned in. Good luck!

[@huntercole8763]

Good luck brother

[@huntercole8763]

@@fabiolito28 this is actually helpful considering the math is what is making me panic about the asvab

[@huntercole8763]

@@c.j.4357 congrats

[@joemartinez9786]

going to jackson this monday and nervous as hell

[@MattWard89]

You will be fine! Enjoy your last week as a civilian :)

[@DrillSergeantApex]

You got this I'll be right behind you re-enlisting soon. Matt I saw one of your comments saying there is an intense waiver process you weren't lying. I got dequaled the first time re-enlisted because of my gums never had I had too get a waiver at MEPS. I fixed my gums and it's still taking forever. Takes a hell of a lot of patience. My original MOS was 19D. Switching from Combat too POG. Why? Because I can. Plus I want a job that transfers well too the civilian world for when I get out. So I'm trying too hit Paralegal and I'm hoping too re-enlist before November 17th. Praying too God on that one because then I may not be able too go paralegal because I'll have too retake the ASVAB. Don't wanna do that.

[@dylananastacio628]

Same here man! I don’t ship until the 27th, but Meps wants me there the 26th.

[@ravenwingxiii3566]

Dw dude the hardest part is thinking about how long it’s gonna feel. Just graduated a month ago and am in AIT now. Basic is easy you just have to not think about how far out graduation is and think about your task at hand and that day.

[@jazmincastillo4112]

Best of luck!

I graduated BCT about 3 weeks ago and am at AIT. Thank you for all of your content as it made me feel like I was better prepared for basic and made basic "easier" for me. Thank you -PFC Mackes

[@plankproductions5102]

I'm sitting at meps right now already swore for the marine corps. Yall wish me luck

[@kevintorres5249]

How’s it going bro? Honest opinion so far?

[@garretttribble5284]

If you want to deploy more frequently, spend a lot of time in the field, shoot your rifle all the time, and basically live out that title of Soldier or Marine, I would suggest an Army Airborne Infantry contract, or a Marine Infantry contract. If you want to do "hardcore" stuff and you have the correct mindset, personality, determination, Intelligence, physical fitness level, and you are comfortable in the water then I would suggest getting a contract for a Special operations or a Special operations capable unit (Ranger,18-X,PJ,SOWT, SWCC,SEAL,Recon, etc). Outside of that the Marine Corps has higher standards, and the Army has better funding. I will say this, if you join the Marines and want to change your branch of service after 1 enlistment you can keep your rank and skip basic training, if you want to join the Marines after another branch of service you will start all over again. All of the branches have their pros and cons, if you are thinking about joining and stumble across this comment do some serious research.

[@richie9878]

Been in the Army 15 year can tell you been in too. I would add that the Army has a huge variety of jobs some of which might as well be another branch all together when you compare what your lifestyle will be like. For example right now I'm an AGR 79V its basically a 9 to 5 Civilian desk job. If I compare that to when I first joined attached to an artillery unit it like night and day.

[@thomasblack49]

I ship to benning in 13 days Matt!! You really inspired me to push through the intense waiver process, thanks a ton.

[@MattWard89]

Glad I could help and congrats!!!

[@andrewholsapple407]

I just left OSUT from Fort Benning 6 days ago!! We were one of the last cycles to get the shark attack

[@jacobobrien135]

I ship in 5 days. Super excited and these videos have definitely helped

[@gbell8199]

Los Santos 30th AG is hell 2 months for alot of people before you start basic

[@simplysublime8975]

What was the waiver for?

[@Topazu]

Future privates won't know the pain of Shark Attack or the fear of failing the ACFT or APFT

[@guy9663]

The First 100 Yards is still difficult and from what I saw, they basically add the traditional Shark Attack in at the very end of it. But yeah, not having to be worried about the ACFT/APFT is a big change

[@mr.k.i.s.s7496]

But you will have to be able to pass when you get to your Unit, so, Noobs should NOT think they are getting over.

[@PinstripeJim]

You can't fail anything anylonger in the military.

[@michaelcastro4563]

shuttttt up 😂😂😂 u haven’t seen half of the stuff marine rcts go through when the cameras are off

[@jeremyreese4735]

Extremely underrated military youtuber

[@davidandrews9333]

I think what the CSM is trying to do with "The First Hundred Yards" is get new recruits from the start working as team. Also getting them in the mindset to accomplish a mission with little guidances. One task is they will given a mission to complete with mishap on the way. I think the CSM idea with this is to build more confident recruits from day one.

[@aleckazamproductions8139]

I was trying to join the military at the beginning of the year, thrilled I didn't now.

[@Largepro21]

RESPECT for both Branches the U.S. Army is still Down! Long live 82nd airbourne and please believe it has it's hardcore members don't get it TWISTED . and USMC is not for everybody please believe that as well .

[@climentime]

In week 12 in osut infantry I’m watching this on pass my platoon are getting there assignments right now

[@michaelgerik8730]

Hopefully the army rangers aren’t taking things easy like the big army...

[@TropicalAsian-1000]

2 women standards were lower to become a ranger, yep even rangers are taking things easy

[@sethheaddress2651]

A platoon of army rangers just got one of those bad charge like things, for being injured in training. And the sgt.major in charge isn’t even a ranger himself.

[@michaelmatthias9495]

@@sethheaddress2651 state your source. All rangers are required to go through rasp so I call BS

[@anthonyzapata9801]

@@TropicalAsian-1000 that’s ranger school

[@Pegasus_-lb7uy]

Thank you for helping inspire me to join the Army in the coming years, and aiding in my plan to prepare to apply for West Point!

[@sunsetbeats299]

You answer every question I have about joining the military! 😂

[@gogurtz1738]

My body feel like an 80 years old man, after 4 years of fateful service in the Corps. Both knees aching out of nowhere, sharp pain when walking up stairs, back just hurt out of nowhere sometimes, tinnitus (go death for a few seconds), left wrist hurt when lifting heavy weight due to the fact from holding my rifle so much.

[@offspectrum5737]

If you join the Marine Corps stand by for everyone E-4 and above to tell you how it used to be. "It used to be harder, the Corps got soft", "You have no clue what we used to have to go through", "Mothers of America is taking over the Marine Corps". Even though you will think you have accomplished something amazing, no one else will see it that way. Have fun boots!

[@nicholasstevens4169]

After getting out of the Marines in 17’, seeing how much has changed and how soft it essentially has gotten. Then jumping ship to the Army, with an open mind and no expectations, I see more soldiers getting smoked and leaders utilizing corrective action through pain more often here then I’ve seen when I was last in the Corps. Overall, the Army isn’t as soft as people think. But that depends on your MOS as well. I went in 09’ mcrd sd, itb, hit the fleet and getting fucked up bu your team leader was a thing. Then pro 13’, things changed. Army infantry, is about where you’ll see soldiers get worked. My rant, but thought I’d share

[@divulgewithchip1099]

Thank you

[@alexanderwinters5531]

Appreciate the candor, brother. -- a former 11B2P

[@chrisaguilar1410]

Damn. When I was in leadership never used physical exercise as corrective action. They just counseled everyone and gave everyone Article 15s. Lol. It was an MP unit though and they were weak as hell so paperwork was their go to.

[@mattduran4774]

It's upsetting what is happening to the Army but I'm still joining it because it's always been my favorite branch, it's history is my favorite to read about, and I'm not turning away from that because of things that might be changing. Hopefully I get a run in the mill BCT experience like my cousin (who says that he's always getting shark attacked at Fort Polk). Great video tho, Matt. 82nd airborne here I come!!!

[@ssww3]

I want to join the airborne

[@mattduran4774]

@@ssww3 hey man, I'm in the 82nd Airborne and I love it. And coming in, there was none of this PC crap lol. You should go for it.

[@Deeznuts-gf3ix]

Update?

[@adrienfrank6426]

I’m shipping out to Fort Jackson in 18 days! Wish me luck :)

[@elbynacosta1031]

good luck bro im shipping out there on June 28th

[@Fdesouza]

You don’t need luck LoL, you’re going to summer camp

[@adrienfrank6426]

@@Fdesouza lol sounds good

[@adrienfrank6426]

@@elbynacosta1031 Good luck to you as well man! 🤟🏻

[@AP12396]

Best of luck dude. You'll be fine

[@sgtstetsonbennettiv2075]

Joining the corps is a HUGE commitment. WE ARE DIFFERENT in a variety of ways. Our standards are high and most people can't adjust. Thats why a lot of people can't make it through boot camp.

[@offspectrum5737]

Fact. I met a lot of Marines that finished boot camp and felt as though they had “made it”. Boot is the easiest part of your entire military career, it only gets harder and more is expected of you.

[@sgtstetsonbennettiv2075]

@@offspectrum5737 I was in boot camp in 05. Non hackers were sent home or they refused to train and just dropped.

[@thefrozzie5970]

90% pass.

[@sgtstetsonbennettiv2075]

@@thefrozzie5970 Not in 2005 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@benjamingarcia2282]

Seargent AR-10 about the same amount of people graduate bootcamp through out all branches

[@richardreser150]

When you hit your line unit, especially combat arms, the tempo of training and the overall mindset will be high tempo regardless of what the temp rules on the ACFT and shark attack are. I would focus on the end game when your training is done and you start to apply what you have learned in that environment and what you need to learn from your squad / platoon leaders /NCO’s. Just my humble words to help...

[@pablowithrice1593]

In case you're reading this message: Most enlistments are around 4 years of service. Don't join because the first 3 months of bootcamp/basic training is easier or harder, you have at least 3.5 years left in your time, thats what matters more.

[@enigmatimes340]

2020 : -Army removes ACFT as requirements to pass BCT- 2025 : -Army removes BCT to become a soldier

[@sethheaddress2651]

Lol stay mad at a joke

[@airforcex9412]

Every generation thinks their time was tougher, etc. my Grandpa would laugh at today’s USMC boot camp, which he was actually forced to endure like many others. The military gets more sophisticated with every generation. I still challenge any other generation to beat today’s military. We would smoke them. And I want my kids to be able to smoke me.

[@spittabeats]

Leaving for Ft. Benning January 4th / 19D Cav Scout 👌🏼

[@bigchungus8037]

I heard they got rid of combatives. That was what had me most excited when I was joining. I ship out on the 26th for basic now I’m almost regretting joining the army

[@giannicabrera3818]

Haha same here man

[@glorykiller998]

I ship Jan 1st, but I'm not confident they'll bring things back by then

[@davidwalsh7835]

I can give you first hand experience on basic training. Things are changing and it's for the best.

[@gbell8199]

Things won't be back to normal until the army gets a vaccine for covid 19

[@bigchungus8037]

@milky onion I think the basic training portion is still on, but I’m talking about the combatives program like the MMA training and tournaments you can do after basic and AIT.

[@lawrencejohnson3912]

Imo the applicants should be worried about getting in instead of who is tougher....😒

[@benjamingarcia2282]

It’s not very rewarding if it’s just given to you.

[@HateTheIRS]

@@benjamingarcia2282 it’s not hard to get in

[@michaelmatthias9495]

@@benjamingarcia2282 what is given? Every branch has to go through an initial training. People quit from all branches. You can find a video of a prior airman bad mouthing the Air Force because he didn’t have a good time. They’re all designed for you to pass. If you want to challenge yourself you need to go to 2x or higher volunteer units. Rasp/sfas/buds/marsoc/recon etc. initial training, ANY Branch is designed for people to pass.

[@trevormurray617]

Won’t lie I considered going to the marines all the way up to the moment I swore in. Also congrats on 200K!

[@MattWard89]

Thanks!

[@CCMan34]

@@silvernight7667 I’m sure the army will see great soldiers joining in the future. Your statement is pretty ridiculous actually.

[@divulgewithchip1099]

Considered?

[@paulovermann5881]

Lemme tell you how basic training is nowadays. I graduated from Infantry OSUT back in July, and from my experience and talking with a bunch of other guys in different companies it really depends on your company and drill sgt’s. You are trained to the army’s standard which isn’t very hard, but your also trained to your drill sgt’s standard. If you have 3 drill sgt’s all from places like 82nd, 101st, and 10th mountain you best believe your gonna earn that blue cord. All these old army heads keep saying “oh it’s all sunshine and rainbow, you guys got it easy” except OSUT for infantry is much longer now which just leaves time for more smoking and it’s more focused on tactics now which a lot of these old army guys couldn’t comprehend with a GT score of a highschool freshman.

[@alexanderwinters5531]

Well, I graduated OSUT at Benning over 20 years ago...and my ASVAB was 99, so...I get it. I tell everyone that being infantry is, was and always will be hard. That said, OSUT of any duration is like a vacation compared to life in a light or parachute infantry company. Though you might well understand that now. =] Hang in there, little brother. Never stop putting one foot in front of another. You now carry our honor. -- a former 11B2P

[@gageanderton9983]

I really hope that the army releases what their doing and doesn't make this permanent

[@stevennguyen4461]

imo, the army is always adapting and I feel like it is doing all this to make it easier and more persuading for gen z to join up.

[@saltycelery2045]

I am Generation Z. I wish the military would stay the military. People don’t understand the commitment the military is. They think it will be easy and want the army to make things cushy. In war you don’t get a hotel.

[@Largepro21]

@@saltycelery2045 💯

[@ssww3]

Wish the military would stay the same too

[@davejones1064]

There doing this cause every year less and less enlist

[@MichaelSmith-np4xc]

I'm 38 talking to a recruiter to join the army thinking about reserves. As a older person I agree that stress like shark attack stress etc do get ppl use to think under pressure etc and combat. I think that softing up things wouldn't be bad as long it's the quality of training .

[@cookingrobots3317]

Did you join. I thought about joining the Army at 42 but the window closed on me. I am retiring from the Navy Reserves and I would say that active is better especally as a older perosn do to VA benefits at retirment.

[@nickvanachthoven7252]

you should always join the marines. as a former 0341 i totally have no bias here whatsoever.

[@Mendozajohn831]

Thank you so much for the information and I wish you the best congratulations in 200k!💪🏻💪🏻

[@fadelmuthana]

I hope this is not a negative comment Matt, but the people who claim that any branch is soft are so ignorant. Most of the folks who come in to service are young and immature at times, and the transformation they go through to become soldiers should never be laughed at. For example, I joined the army at age 19, and before that I never did anything athletic because I was just a book person. I had to work out and get ready three months before BCT and still I was far from perfect. The point from the PT test is not to point blank fail you but see you improve slowly. When I got out of BCT I was able to score 289 and still improving a year and half later. THE POINT is that not all people are the same and Army along other branches do their thing depending on demanding the type of work you do and that is not to say that we are soft. In fact, I have seen people from the coast guard who are more physically fit and mentally ready than those from the Army or the Marines. Now, there is no argument that the Marines are more strict because they are usual the first ones out in a battle, however, this is not say that the other branches are slower or less qualified.

[@devildogradar4599]

I got to Marine Boot in January, a little late for me but nice vid!

[@sympszn5062]

How was it?

[@pittbullking87]

When I went through Basic in summer 1985 we were told if we did not pass the PT test we would be recycled. That's all I needed to hear and I maxed the pushed ups sit ups and ran my best time ever. It seems the Army is replacing the PT test in Basic with the PC test.

[@garrisonjones9340]

I got out of the Army over 55 yers ago. But, let me put it to you like this. When I was in, the Marines were known as a bunch of pimple face loud mouths who were in the way and always got ther asses kicked and handed to them by other banches. Then they were always biting off more than they could chew, and we (the Army) were called on more than I can remember to come and save their asses.

[@shemarmcmillian7256]

I just graduated from bootcamp. In the company that I graduated from, we started with around 600 recruits and graduated with around 300 strong and dedicated Marines. The Marine Corps is still brutal, and I like that style more over the Army. The Marine Corps is not afraid to tell you the truth, and push you. That’s what separates the two. If the country goes to war, I want only the strongest and bravest by my side. Semper Fi

[@garouuchiha4041]

Exactly, I hated the ARMY, it's a joke, glad I got out of the ARMY, didn't finished basic and can tell how dumb and pathetic try hard the ARMY is, a wanna be warrior, that is the ARMY. I rather die with the MARINE CORPS instead, I don't trust alot of people within the ARMY.

[@BCWEASEL252]

@@garouuchiha4041you was just too weak

[@garouuchiha4041]

@BCWEASEL252 no, it was just dumb of how the ARMY is operated

[@burgerking2783]

@@garouuchiha4041 did you join the marines?

[@garouuchiha4041]

@burgerking2783 No, not yet, it's an option. I am still pursuing the AIR FORCE. The ARMY is a ghetto, gimmick, try hard warrior's, a bunch of boys and girl scouts adult version crap....the most unprofessional and undisciplined military branch, the most bullsh*t branch out of all.

[@matthewc1543]

Going to marine boot camp in a couple months! So pumped!

[@marcoromine4952]

Went through basic not long ago , they my have said it went away but it’s definitely still being done

[@daniilremeika9032]

Leaving for marine basic the 15th. just want to say thanks for the videos really good information you are putting out and i bet it helps a lot of people.

[@daniilremeika9032]

@@user-kd8cq6nm5f boot camp or everything since?

[@madisonreynolds9421]

I leave for BCT in about 6 months. The thing that bums me out the most is that the shark attack is a right of passage and now I won't get to go through that. I'm not saying it would be pleasant, but still.

[@lordbeerus7718]

Just got commissioned in the marines

[@spidermangy5514]

We had a "shark attack" of a sort at Ft. Jackson after our bus pulled up in the summer of '81, and it didn't let up until we hit our bunks late that first night. I remember thinking that I made a big mistake joining. Turns out that it was the most awesome experience of my life. As for today's basic, I simply don't know what it's like, only that it's longer. I only know that ours was tough. Nothing like marine basic or infantry, but it was very hot, and our drill sergeant was 82nd Airborne tough. C-7-2, Hollywood Barracks, Jun-Aug 1981.

[@xuda7100]

Army Ranger school is tougher than U.S. marine boot camp, so if you want to be be hardcore you should still join the army.

[@TheOutlawMan]

Be accurate. Compare Marine recruit training to Army basic. Ranger school is just a leadership course, which any branch can attend. You need to study up more.

[@xuda7100]

@@TheOutlawMan i am well aware of what Ranger School is. the two months of near total sleep and food deprivation, is more stressful than the recruit training for either the Army or Marines. and while any service branch may attend Ranger school, the vast majority of graduates are soldiers.

[@sethbingo]

I ship out to San Antonio in February! You're a huge help Matt! Thanks 👍

[@TropicalAsian-1000]

“ I got a 94 on the asvab with a gt of 118 im going into marines for infantry “ - some guy at meps hotel, TRUE STORY

[@SV-kr9fu]

There is nothing wrong with that. Some people just want to be an infantryman.

[@melanieblue2]

Well, my youngest son scored high on the Asvab and has always wanted infantry!!! He’s now infantry! So what was your point?

[@TropicalAsian-1000]

@@melanieblue2 Well I’m a rifleman station in lejeune nothing wrong with that

[@tombob671]

You need to be kinda smart in the infantry, keeps you alive

[@melanieblue2]

@Marshal Murat Awesome, sorry if I misjudged your comment. It’s a ridiculous common stereotype: infinity individuals all score low.

[@NicholasMaart]

If you can't handle the stress(shark attack), and operate under the stress, then what is going to happen when you enter combat.

[@SB-ui7uu]

Marines have a higher floor as far as your lower-tier soldiers go but a lower ceiling cuz the army has Delta, Rangers, and Special Forces and all that

[@elevenb6967]

Did you even serve? LOL

[@Napoleon1323]

If people want to be hardcore in the army, then join the Special Forces, Delta Force, Ranger or Sapper.

[@GUZZI99]

I got 4 weeks left than I'll be in 2 weeks of quarantine than it's off to P.I Oorah 💪🏾🇺🇸💯

[@mcoleman6834]

200K!! Well done, Lieutenant!!🇺🇸👏🏽👍🏿

[@quentincook2647]

Matt I’ve always wanted to join the marines I want a challenge

[@michaelmatthias9495]

If you wanted a challenge you’d volunteer for a spec ops units. All initial training, bootcamp included, is designed for you to pass. What do you think is challenging about usmc bootcamp? Is getting yelled at difficult for you? Do you get scared when people yell at you?

[@sziyad8965]

Exactly what I've been thinking about when I was in Basic

[@mikejohnson3713]

Nothing about the army soft even with the shark attack removal.

[@Angelv93]

Been watching your channel for a few years now. Finally shipping on Monday to FT Sill! Your videos kept me well informed so thank you for that.

[@benignobrionesiii]

Ft. Sill. Home of the Field Artillery. King of Battle.

[@Angelv93]

Benigno Briones III Haha yeah. MOS is 13m

[@benignobrionesiii]

@@Angelv93 I was a 13B. Good times. Word of advice, just because you no longer have to pass the APFT to graduate basic, pass it anyway. It will look better on you when you get to your unit station. Good luck to you.

[@Angelv93]

Benigno Briones III Thank you. I appreciate that and I will definitely do that.

[@bryansmith7238]

ARMY all the way. I don't think the shark attack being taken away is going to change much. I'm still planning to enlist. I want to go for linguist and be there to support my Bros and sis in arms.

[@timcanter4473]

Marines is where it’s at man

[@bryansmith7238]

@@timcanter4473 not a fan of Crayola's.

[@Hxxva5252]

@@timcanter4473 you in the marines

[@andersontavarez1482]

@@timcanter4473 No. Most people who join the Marines do it because of self pride, not because they are willing to serve their country in the front lines. As a matter of fact, I know plenty of people who join the Marines and then change to other branches at the end of their contract.

[@michaelmatthias9495]

@@andersontavarez1482 this. They think it’s hard so they feel they have to prove they can do it. According to the department of defense, It has a 90% pass rate… all initial training is designed for you to pass 😒 Then they usually get out and join some form of the Army.

[@samuelvillarreal4157]

Yooo man!!! I just want to say thanks. Your videos helped me to join the Army. I'm currently in the reserves. Again thank you!!!

[@tombob671]

I am an old Marine 1966 to 1968. The Marines are not for everyone. All branches are on the same team. Each branch trains to their mission. The Army's mission is different from the expiditionary role of the marines. Remember we have the best military in the world, all branches including the Army. Want to be a hard ass in the army, go Airborne, rangers etc. Those guys are rock hard.

[@temporaryname8905]

The thing about the shark attack is once u realize there doing it to support you then it's no longer stressfull. At least that's how it was for me.

[@rileypart1]

Happy Wednesday, I still lean on Marine Corps ever since high school.

[@KJ-xn7yc]

Best bet is talk to each branches recruiters, and do a ton of research on your own and see what's best for you in your personal situation! Army offered the most for me

[@mikesheber2205]

Worried about joining a "soft" branch? Join the navy and then go to BUDs. I mean if you're feeling hard, and froggy, and like pain.

[@laneheis4541]

Army isn’t really soft, it just depends what MOS you go in as. Same as the navy, I’m a 68w and the navy core man have it sooo easy.

[@SV-kr9fu]

@@laneheis4541 : That's CORPSMAN, young'on. If you are going to talk $hit about someone, make sure you do it correctly.

[@mikesheber2205]

@@SV-kr9fu lmfao I was hitting reply to do the same thing and I read down to yours and said awww maaaaan

[@SV-kr9fu]

@@mikesheber2205 : You are more than welcome the chime in. The more the merrier, right?

[@jedgarpi]

I am a 75 year old Vietnam combat veteran. I served in the ARMY'S 1st AIR CAVALRY division 34th Scout Dog Platoon. Tay Ninh, Quang Tri.

[@Schlungy]

I kept thinking during my basic training Aug 11-Oct. 22 this year, “this must be a joke” it was literally so easy, it just felt like a JROTC summer camp

[@MrStaybrown]

My buddy went airforce while I went Marines, his description It was like P.E. He got a suite and cafeteria which are amazing. I shared a room and ate in a chowhall.

[@jafman06]

I want to join USMC but I don’t want to regret it later.

[@sdlonewolf]

Lord help us! Meanwhile, our adversries are staying hard and when they meet us on the battlefield they don't care about feelings! I went through Fort Benning, 1990 Infantry (OSUT). After Basic and AIT, In Germany, my mindset and most of my peers was we were ready to meet the Russians on the battlefield even if I we were just a speed bump..

[@alexanderwinters5531]

=] 1990. 1/50, Sand Hill. Co. D, 1/507, Main Post. 3/8, Lee Barracks, Mainz. 3/17, Planet Ord. -- a former 11B2P

[@pabloorozco300]

Just finished BCT and now headed to DLI. We literally got transportation on the Forge... BCT was not what I was expecting whatsoever and frankly I was extremely disappointed with my experience at BCT

[@alexanderwinters5531]

Monterey is wonderful. I never wanted to leave. =/ -- a former 11B2P

[@ttman6197]

I wanted MP MARINE but I got into a trade school where am learning welding but now when am finish with welding school am gonna go for marine recon

[@averygaston9937]

I’m in the reserves and you are right. Lucky I passed my acft with flying colors. I do hate the sprint drag and carry though holy crap. That one is rough!

[@louferrao2044]

I joined the Army and worked with Nukes (Pershing Missile) in the field artillery. I gained a lot of knowledge and frankly the Marines could not replicate the job I selected in the Army. When I went to OCS I selected Military Intelligence. Fun times.

[@d.rcarrera6599]

Army brother Matt, I have not heard before today that the Army was considering getting rid of their PFT test in basic training. I would not be in support of this because the military involves being physically fit, to some degree. Not everyone in the Marines ran three miles in 18 minutes; i know I didn't. My basic training time was 19:30. Anyways, after I left the Marines, four years as an Infantryman, i joined the Army reserves. I will admit to this, the Army offers more opportunities than the Marines. Sure, many Marines may get agitated or upset at knowing this, so what, get over it! I strongly believe the main focus of any potential enlistee is, getting the maximum benefits out of the service branch they are interested in joining. Many who join the Marines will speak about the Army in not the most welcoming manner. But how many have actually served in the Army???.Many compare the different basic training. Guess what basic training is only a small part of one's enlistment experience. Being a former infantryman, it was a continuum of what it really meant to be a grunt, four years. What I learned about the Marines and the Army is if someone is joining for the boot camp experience or the uniform, they need to check their opportunity GPS. If I could have done anything different after I got out of active duty, I would have looked into all the career opportunities in the Army. I probably would have stayed in and made it a career. Some of my Marine friends who joined the Army were doing a lot better due to the opportunities that the Army offered them. I think the Sgt. Major of the Army is trying to restructure the Army in the right direction. I hope he will be successful. In the end, it is really about maximizing opportunities. We had many Marines who were Sergeants and if they didn't make Staff Sergeant by 12 years they would get a 2 years waiver; if they didn't make it by then, they were kicked out. That was during my time. Today, I have seen Staff Sergeants with less than 7 years in. To get a Corporal rank, was super hard. Most got out as E-3s, Lance Corporals. I did three deployments, and completed the squad leadership and jungle training courses and didn't get Corporal, literally, until one month before I got out. There was no incentive to re-up. Today, it is way easier.

[@k8emay447]

I'm 28 years old and getting ready to join the army. I was really nervous, but with all these changes I just might have a chance lol Having said that I don't agree with these changes. This will put more pressure in other areas of our military and this shows weakness to potential enemies js

[@mynameskim616]

I'll be 28 when I finally ship out. Good luck.

[@k8emay447]

Hey! Thanks you too!!

[@ValorSnake]

Currently in AIT good luck on your journey, reception will be where it sucks the most cuz you just do nothing for a long ass week after that basic will be a breeze maybe even fun with a little suck, just remember to watch out for your health and keep the mask on and 6 feet xD

[@k8emay447]

@@ValorSnake congrats on graduating basic! What MOS are you training for? Idk about basic being a "breeze" lol but I have heard it sucks and is fun at the same time

[@robertisham5279]

@@k8emay447 What's your mos going to be?

[@ronwilliams266]

The military has changed its like day & night from when I was in . The problem with the marines is that when they deploy, it takes the Navy to get them there and the Airforce to get them back home. What can they do on there own.

[@ironmanmason4247]

I just had my interview with my recruiter it went great I’m entering DEP but im so excited I appreciate u and ur channel so much dude!

[@seanramey5079]

I just graduated basic training less than a month ago and I went to fort leonard wood which is ranked one of the hardest training centers and we actually had somewhat of a shark attack. Now the P.T. test we did have to pass.

[@issabellaruden2586]

i leave for leonard wood on monday 😳

[@CarmenRodriguez-lm5di]

Baby Union just call me hombre marioso let's open grande

[@seanramey5079]

@@CarmenRodriguez-lm5di Not to sound rude or anything, but what you just said made zero sense.

[@KevinDiazx11]

I thought about it but I wanna be a Ranger so ima still go Army route but ima prepared myself physically by my own

[@Its_shiki_time4876]

I hope you make it

[@KevinDiazx11]

@@Its_shiki_time4876 i appreciate

[@Z2Z9]

@@KevinDiazx11 you could go Raiders but either way is good. Im basically only going Army because of better odds of me going where I can go vs small Marine corps

[@michaelmatthias9495]

@@Z2Z9 there are no raider contracts

[@Blinx777]

So I'm in the DEP for the Marine Corps, and I only qualified for jobs in the combat support field and another field that I didn't like or caught my interest. Initially, upon joining the DEP, I was planning to get an infantry rifleman contract (0311), but I fell 3 points short for my GT. Instead, I asked if I could do another job that was in the infantry field, but they said no. My whole life, I grew up having the dream of becoming a United States Marine and also getting rifleman because I knew I would be great at it, and now I can't have it and I might have to stop pursuing the Marine Corps. When my recruiter said that I couldn't get riflmen, I felt down, like my dream had been taking away from me, but I didn't argue that much with him. I ended up picking AAV (1833) because that was the only solid option. Though, I know I'm wasn't guaranteed that job due to me scoring low on the ASVAB, and I felt like my mos would later on change in boot camp to another lower score mos like a desk job which was what scared me the most because I wanted an active job like infantry. I've read online that your mos can change in boot camp, and I didn't want to take that chance, so what did I do? I went to an Army recruiter, and I was 100 percent guaranteed infantryman (11b). The first step to transferring to the Army was to get a discharge from the Marine Corps. Of course, it's my recruiters job to keep me in. He asked me why, and I said because "I wanted infantry." He went on to say,"If you want a branch that will push you to your limits and motivate you to do better, then the Marine Corps is for you, otherwise join the Army because it requires lower standards and a lack of discipline." He also said,"If you join the Marine Corps and ever want to switch to another branch, you won't have to do basic training again, and your rank will remain the same. In the end, he told me to really think about it and to get back to him when my mind was made up. So, where does that leave me? In the middle because I really want to be a Marine because it's been my dream but I also don't want a job that I may not like. On the other hand, I want the Army because I'm guaranteed the job I want and I know I will love it. My overall goal in the military is to be the best of the best, which would mean doing special forces, and I plan on doing more than 20 years, depending if l like the military. I don't know what to do guys. Please help me. I'm 18, btw

[@anacondadope550]

I'm in the same situation. Almost went to the USMC but heard army SF gets after it more and sees more deployments/ combat than the Corps. I am apprehensive tho because I hear the army is soft (e.g Emma's story ad). But I wouldn't want to be in the marines and never deploy/ see action since it's peacetime. Nobody is being straight with me, the army or marine recruiter, and can't find info online. Yes someone please give us insight lol, can't decide rn

[@JT-se1hi]

I’m currently in the DEP, but I’m now starting to think I should join the army before it’s too late. Really the only thing the marines have to offer are the sexy uniforms and the pride of being a marine, but you’re also sacrificing a lot of things the army has to offer such as, air assault, pathfinder school, airborne school, ranger school, and special forces etc. The Marines really don’t have much to offer as much as the army, and they aren’t funded like the army, which means worse equipment and just an overall run down lifestyle. I still love the marines and what they stand for but if you’re looking for a better experience in the United States military I believe the army is the better choice.

[@elevenb6967]

@@4threconmarine Army infantry, and marine infantry are literally practically identical. Don't fool yourself.

[@ronaldlee3224]

These posts made me laugh. I get it. Your young and don’t know. If you are talking about a career (20+yrs), consider MOS that promotes and doesn’t bottle neck between 6 & 12 years in the staff ranks. Want to get paid more??? Well you have to get promoted. Choose the right branch of service for the right reasons and ask the recruiter or some who’s in or recently got out about the promotion and retention rates. FYI there’s a lot on the internet as well nowadays. If you want to be a Marine, join the Corps. Choose an MOS, even something with wheels (AAVs), that’s an added bonus. You still have to go through SOI. Not MCT, completely different If not join the Army, they will be glad to have ya. Join the Corps, take the combat MOS. At the end of the day you are a war fighter. Everyone believes they are going to be a special something!!! Most are dreamers and wouldn’t make it! If you are a bad ass, guess what? There are ways to prove it and lateral move to those special groups. All the best MSgt USMC

[@TrygveofAkrar]

​@anacondadope550 this is the only comment I've seen to accurately describe how I feel lmao so many questions none of which can be met with a straight answer. So I'm curious did you end up joining and if so which branch did you join ?

[@moderatorhollowbird]

Hi Matt, I am 10 years old and am recently watching your channel! I am thinking when I am 17 I will join the infantry! Also Can you please heart this? Edit: Thanks for all the likes I never get any likes my record is 4....

[@cameronash5492]

lol

[@oldnatty61]

The way things are now days the only place to go is Marines unless you are going to try to make Ranger, SF, or Delta.

[@alexatriano6699]

hoping to join the marines in summer of 2021 once i graduate from high school

[@overcast1725]

Just graduated basic from ft jackson. I'm currently in AIT at fort benning. I'm very disappointed of how basic was. It was LITERALLY too easy. I honesty should have joined the marines. 😤

[@allenfoxworth2618]

Prior service Marine here from 2007-2011. Going into the Army and leaving for OSUT March 22. I've already proved how tough I am once. I'll take the soft Army now thanks lol. In all seriousness, cutting back on the basic training mind fuckery is a bad idea.

[@alexanderwinters5531]

Lol...hope you ended up in a parachute infantry company. My 110-lbs. ruck is laughing at the soft times we shared together jumping into the pitch-black and then humping 30 miles over mountains and through swamps.

[@militustoica]

I never saw a goddamned stress card in 2008-2009 in OSUT.

[@matt6223]

When I went through Infantry OSUT a few months ago there was quite a few guys who had failed the Marines and Navy basic but made it through OSUT successfully.

[@MG21778]

Hey how hard is infantry OSUT?

[@noah5524]

Is it as bad as everyone says it is?

[@Zz-zc1sq]

@@MG21778 not hard at all.

[@matt6223]

@@noah5524 Well with corona you have to sit around for two weeks doing nothing and they cut out combatives. But it's not too bad. The worst parts are reception and the Eagle Run.

[@matt6223]

@@MG21778 it's kind of hard, it kind of depends on how fit you are going in.

[@thethe3065]

Congrats on 200k bro