Should you play Atlas Fallen in Coop? - Deck13 Inside: Episode 28

[@Bretroid]

I’m really excited. You guys are my favorite devs!

[@levinlivay701]

Then you need to play other games from good devs

[@wulfhrafnragnarsson]

Deck 13 and Focus Entertainment aren't good devs? Clearly whoever you think is a good dev must be garbage then.

[@Wreck0nize1232]

@@wulfhrafnragnarssonONG Iv seen som ppl say this game looks mid at best like huh this game looks absolutely amazing the graphics are not only next gen but it just looks flat out fun Wich isn’t something you get in video games anymore

[@eric_starbuck]

I am often baffled how companies design Co-op experience wrong. I seems you nailed it! I look forward to playing this game in full co-op mode since the beginning.

[@Jay-kl3zb]

The co-op experience is something that is lacking from every single triple A game made today, this looks phenomenal. I really hope you guys live up to the hype!

[@NyxPhan3s]

literally been waittinggg for a game like this hopefully you guys add crazy monsters for the crazy combos and some dlcs

[@Panda0nxtc]

Best of luck with launching ❤ looking forward to this one

[@The_Babe]

I wish more devs took the time to make incredibly informative videos like this one

[@Chiefy006]

Is co-op progression bugged? My friend and I started this game yesterday both right after the tutorial. Logged off and it seems like none of his progress saved since he was fhe guest. When he rejoined the game he was a few hours behind but when he loaded into his own save it was at the start of the game again. How is it that when both people start at the same point world and character progression isn't saved?

[@moritzlohff8446]

I and i think also a couple of other people gave issues with their coop progress since it just did not save the equip of the guest. Is there anything I am missing or don´t understand? I would really like some answers, cause otherwise it is pointless to play with a nother person in coop. Thanks !

[@freddoesvox9033]

Will you also cover armour sets?

[@RevivedSaiyan]

Cant wait to play this. The 100 different abilities and visuals sold me already.

[@UnlimitedProduction1]

That Surge 2 Xbox One X is dope Atlas Fallen has been on my radar since it was first announced, I'll be playing it in August

[@7Dan42]

Unfortunately, the coop didn't work out so well for me. I played as a guest at my friend as a host from the start. Shortly at the beginning we had a disconnect but I joined him again right away, at the same place where he was and there was the message "The difference in progress is too big". I thought maybe this is a false reading because we have exactly the same progression and I kept playing with him for now. After 6h he left the session and now all my progress is gone. Apparently there are still problems with recognizing the progress.

[@charliecs28]

Is this a bug? . me and my friend started the game together, His armor level was upgraded but last 2 times it didnt save also i can not save manually until he leaves the game. We are on playstation 5.

[@MrLeandrus]

Explain to me why 2 players playing Co-Op from the beginning the client could not save the progress... We only played together in Co-OP and the game it kept saying the Host was ahead of me, so I lost my 7 hours progress...😭

[@Tobeyzz]

Quick Question: Higher Difficulty = More loot? Or does it stay the same?

[@Deck13]

It stays the same. If you want more loot, you need to destroy mandatory body parts of the enemies. But that makes the fight longer and therefore riskier

[@mytwinflameband]

If you keep up like this I might just pre order it 😂

[@martinkaiser8658]

Do both players get the same trophies while playing in Co-op or only the host?

[@canderstheman12345]

Host only I played someone else's and didn't get a trophy for sorting things

[@FelisImpurrator]

What do the difficulty settings scale up and down? Why have just fixed difficulties instead of having a more granular menu to adjust things like timings or aggression or health separately? Would that have been too difficult to work into the individual difficulty settings per player?

[@Tonedriver]

The more collected of difficulty properties into single selections for me, the better. I don’t want to think about all of the various internal settings, because it’s hard to truly notice a valuable setup. I can understand people wanting that though, for a more focused practice on certain properties.

[@dr.prophet8972]

Will there be POST-game content or New Game Plus? Or both?

[@paristeta5483]

What does Difficulty mean? Just a difference to the multiplier for Damage taken? Damage done? Aggro generated? How is aggro, i.e. which of the two player the enemy select handled? I find it also hard to imagine how it works in a satisfying way when for example i imagine a mutliplayer horizon, where 1 Player plays on story difficulty and the other on Ultra Hard, fighting the same enemy. The Element you can find and raise, was a little unclear, it is easier to do it together, or do you need to be 2 Players to do them? Cheers!

[@Deck13]

Difficulty mainly means damage received and dealt. The aggro of the enemies is generally higher in coop, to balance out the two player advantage. For the part about the raisable puzzles, I missed to say that these are on a timer. So tackling them in coop will make them a bit more forgiving -Phil

[@paristeta5483]

@@Deck13 Thank you very much for taking your time answering my questions.

[@lijahgil]

With the difficulty setting, how much changes for each mode? With each player being able to set the difficulty individually it doesn't lead me to believe it is doing a lot other than changing Health and damage.

[@queenmarsia]

i think the changable difficulty should reward the players for keeping the challenge higher. risk should equal reward.

[@Tonedriver]

Fair, I wonder if there will be higher drop rates or something.

[@tnyeh]

The thought they put into all this makes me more inclined to play.

[@raaz1408]

The kind of features AAA companies roll throughout months of updates.

[@Tonedriver]

AAA matters, but the efforts of this studio and others similar matter also.

[@justingoh2102]

Hi, does my friend need another copy of the game to play co op? Needed some clarification. Thanks

[@mrtony1181]

Fuck yes this game keeps sounding better

[@denilsonsantospinheiro2135]

Hello, there is a bug in the All That Gold trophy in coop mode, if the host has maps that the guest does not have. If the treasure of a map that the host has and the guest not is found, these trophy bug for the guest because he will no longer be able to obtain the map. This happened to me. Can you adjust my trophy?

[@Tpiu95]

Hey ! The coop looks awesome. What about the endgame ? :)

[@nikakorvinus5971]

Hello dear developers! Please tell me if there is a function of changing the appearance in the game "transmodification" as it was later added to Surge 2, if not, it would be very cool if you implemented it, thank you very much in advance for your answer!

[@SimplisticBeing]

Love they designed this being Single Player oriented with Co-op added on top. Now for some...darkness. I love a good fight in the dark. This game seems prime for a fight using your abilities to see in the dark or with impaired lighting.

[@Tonedriver]

They’ve shown underground caves, maybe they’ll be frequent enough, and maybe a day and night cycle. I too like nighttime and darker adventure settings.

[@xxmavr1kxx]

Just so I'm clear. Say after the tutorial and people wanted to experience whole game co op, we can do that?

[@Deck13]

Absolutely! You get a quick introduction (5 minutes), then you create your character. After a cutscene the co-op unlocks and you can play the full game with a partner.

[@AMTRAX]

Having individual difficulties for each player rules.🎉

[@Tengu230]

Tried about 7 times hosting and being invited into coop on the PS5 earlier, but couldn't connect at all. Connection kept timing out. Anyone encountering this on PS5?

[@Deck13]

Hey, I'm sorry this is happening! If the issue hasn't resolved itself, we'd very much like to investigate this and follow up with our support team. Could you please submit a ticket via our website so we can get in touch with you? www.deck13.com/contact/support/ -Phil

[@irishchancer2687]

So you cant matchmake for a random player to join you or join them ?

[@germanCouchWarrior]

I am so hyped :-O. But becaus I am a story fanatic I would love to see a story and a side mission. Of course with spoiler warning for the sensible ones. But good gameplay can not rescue bad story for me it works otherway around. Don't get me wrong. Your game seem to be great in both regards, but I would appreciate a conformation with such a presentation.

[@Macephtopheles]

I'm assuming the difficulty setting only alters the amount of damage taken by a player? Was sorta skipped over but would just seem kinda odd if (using the example of someone on 'Easy' and someone on 'Hard') one is melting the enemy health and tanking hits whereas the other is effectively tickling it and being downed by love taps from it. (Not criticising and 100% getting the game on release but just curious about that particular mechanic...)

[@Deck13]

It pretty much works like you explained it :D The different levels of difficulty are mainly intended for players with a big skill gap. If you buddy never played an Action-RPG but you are a veteran, we still wanted to offer you a chance of playing the game together. -Phil

[@Okraz53]

Looks great!!! Still kinda wish it had three person coop but I understand limitations with being able to do so and balancing problems probably. Still excited for launch!

[@bas248331]

Will there be DLC or NG+?

[@BoMahdigameplayer]

ok its coool is it only 2 players ?

[@somebodyelseathome]

Does difficulty influence xp gained?

[@headshothunt3r414]

how exactly does it work with the different difficulties for the players if both fight the same enemy but one players plays on hard while the other has theirs set to easy?

[@Deck13]

The player on easy difficulty does more damage and receives less from enemies, it's the opposit for the player on hard difficulty. -Phil

[@headshothunt3r414]

@@Deck13 thats such an easy way to do it that i wonder how i didnt even think of it

[@REAPERGAMINGGR]

Like is there crossplatform im on PS5 but i want to play with my PC buddy

[@focabox5594]

The players hate towards multi-player is real to the point developers have to try to justify co-op, by saying it's a solo game with optional co-op. This is in sad. Co-op is great! Honestly, I've never played a co-op game that couldn't be played solo and had fun as well. If it has coop it has solo as well

[@Deck13]

Since this is our first time with a coop mode, I wanted to ensure the people who enjoyed our latest singleplayer games, that they were not forgotten. Designing a game that can be played both in singleplayer and coop while never letting people actively feel this dual design while playing, is a tough challenge. I'm quite confident we tackled that well! It wasn't my intention to sound apologetic about the coop, please don't get me wrong here. Just wanted to make sure that our singleplayer veterans know that we got them covered 🧡 -Phil

[@focabox5594]

​@@Deck13I understand and my post wasn't about complaining to you guys, but to all the players that suddenly think games are better solo. I love co-op and I'm glad you guys added to this game! I really appreciate the effort. ❤❤

[@GRAHFXENO]

I think this may be the game to finally get me to play a game online.

[@henrik971]

If you wanna play co-op, can you just search for a partner too?? similar to how you search for a match

[@ooperblownup]

If we wanna play coop with a random player can the matchmaking system do that? Or is it just to invite friends. Very important.

[@Tonedriver]

I think they said it’s invite only. I do see that matchmaking is really useful, but I’m going to play Single player.

[@ooperblownup]

@@Tonedriver yeah they confirmed on twitter it is invite only, which killed my hype for the game.

[@FatalxZilla]

Love this coop done correctly with not making it impossible for the people who truly want to play alone I will be buying bc of this vid and I have such hopes that avatars coop is just as good if not better

[@yunielalfonso773]

Game feels amazing 🤩 fight are fun ,hope hope is not balancing (nerfing) on build after the people starting building characters,let me by a god that the point on this tipe of game farm ,have fun and become stronger that anyone 😅

[@carlorossi87]

will this game have crossplay?

[@adanmagdaleno4113]

Will this game have like public lobbies like where you can encounter random players

[@Tonedriver]

I think this game is going to be able to be played offline, just as a side mention.

[@thisisntthewholesomefuture649]

Wow! You guys are involved with this? You guys are developing this?! I didn't know this.. ☝🏻 Ok

[@ohnostorm]

love this game but I wish the co-op was more of a matchmaking system so we can find other random players

[@focabox5594]

Never played a game that is worse in co-op, so yeah... Co-op>>>solo always! Count me in!

[@SC366ar]

there is matchmaking or you have to invite someone to coop?

[@Deck13]

You have to invite a specific coop partner -Phil

[@ifeawosika966]

The co-op is pretty good.

[@Kostarika808]

Will it have crossplay ps5 and PC?

[@Deck13]

We sadly don't offer crossplay between consoles and PC. -Phil

[@chaossturmx1551]

plants pickup chared too in co-op ?????????????

[@Hermit_twitch]

Lol , this look good!

[@Tonedriver]

I think this game might be my main focus, even with all of the other titles releasing in 2023. Hopefully there are plans for much future content, and this Independent Project grows.

[@snoopyt7]

Is the coop limited to 2 players or can I play with 2 friends so 3 in total?

[@Deck13]

Two players! One host, one client -Phil

[@GBooneoh]

new game..... what! 🤯

[@zephyrinjohnson8150]

Hype ! ❤from 🟦⬜🟥

[@dragonlotion1789]

man the combat.. wtf were you thinking. I don’t even know where to start. Right off the bat the player and enemies blend completely into the background, someone had the bright idea of making the parry indicator’s too small an at a right angle to the player( often too flat too see) and the last Skorpur, wow..I couldn’t see shit half the time because the particle effects, I had to look at the health bar to determine if I was getting hit in 90% of the battles because I couldn’t see. Trying to lock on the smaller mobs and not on bosses body parts, jumping around trying not to get hit by a boss that had his attack animations speed up all while trying to lock on to the smaller mobs, was rage inducing. Little things like clicking on the grab herb button but it not registering, input delay during combat, getting stuck under platform instead of grabbing onto them.. These issues taken individually is understandable but at the end of game when you guys just throw everything you can at the player to break up the monotony and add cheap difficulty just feels like you’re antagonizing the player. Sad thing is I enjoyed a lot of my time with the game but it’s clear you took the cheap, really cheap route to add difficulty adding copious amounts of unnecessary frustration.

[@maestro1417]

Damn you Deck13 , release this game Right now or else 😡

[@Tonedriver]

Game refinement until August.

[@canderstheman12345]

Sucks theres no end game content to keep you entertained and coming back for more and the areas and map is too small in my opinion and needs more monsters types and verations of monsters to fight

[@MrPeaNut346]

I wish I had a co op friend to play with 😢 but it's all gd idm

[@Damichii_]

Cross play/ :> ?

[@patriciosilva7471]

You said , if you need some answers please put in the coments below , well you didnt answer a single question on this page, so you still wabt people to buy this game!!!!!!

[@Deck13]

My dude, I answered like 10 questions aready. The way you sort your comments just doesn't display that :D But yeah, there are some questions I can't answer yet -Phil

[@calabacin888sangriento]

So I play for people who like to play alone, it's impossible, permanent connection and always in coop? I think I'm not going to buy the excuse that you can play it alone and it's very enjoyable!!!! F

[@Deck13]

My dude, I don‘t think you understood the video :D it‘s a singleplayer game, like all of our previous games, now for the first time with an optional coop. No MMMO, not a GaaS. You can play it offline like all our other games -Phil

[@calabacin888sangriento]

@@Deck13 Thanks for answering

[@DTNNooby]

difficulty being per-player is a mistake, no game should do this. it makes playing on hard completely pointless in co-op because your easy mode friend would just be clapping the hard enemies like they are nothing.

[@skonyon]

Yeah getting a refund now

[@nvm9294]

In other words, it's a co-op game. Refunding now.

[@thomasgladu7137]

no its not its an option to play co op no trophies are attached to co op so its single player with an option to play co op.

[@poploki4844]

Make other things but this gameplay is over 1 year after release full of the same issues. Shame on you

[@poploki4844]

This complete mechanics are full of issues, your camera jumps from one enemie to another. Unolayable BS 😒. Stunlocking trash between 5 and 10 critical hits in a row and parrie is only helpfull if you complete all perfectly or you die because the enemie stuns you in this loop.

[@biggus3461]

bro wann kommt surge 3 ?

[@germanCouchWarrior]

Wenn überhaupt, dann in 3- 4 Jahren. Außer sie können, und das glaube ich bei dem Production Value von Atlas Fallen nicht, zwei Produktionen parallel laufen lassen.

[@biggus3461]

@@germanCouchWarrior boah hoffentlich früher. find die surge reihe das beste soulslike

[@germanCouchWarrior]

@@biggus3461 Hab vor kurzem Teil 1 nachgeholt und bin bald an Teil 2. Gehört auch zu meinen Favoriten. Ich persönlich mag ja die Fromsoftware Spiele aufgrund deren langweiligen Settings nicht.

[@biggus3461]

@@germanCouchWarrior ich feier die fromsoft souls spiele. finde den ersten teil von surge am geilsten aber der zweite ist auch ziemlich geil. hoffe wirklich das ein dritter teil kommt

[@mohamedlebon2327]

i was born in a prison

[@sjwhater]

Coop progression is going to be pain in the ass it seems... Hope it will work as intented. But if my friend is not going to get progress because im only 1 quest ahead of him, thats bs.

[@jihigh482]

Everything outside of combat looks pretty mediocre but that won't matter to me if combat is good. The armors designs are an eyesore though.

[@meatball557]

I'm so angry at all these reviews characters how the hell people who don't play on line can't get the chance to experience a 2 player Coop game with there boys ? I'm mad as the devil. I want off line 2 Player Coop Added before coming through the SANDS some one important .

[@duaneantrea7785]

I’ve been trying to find a friend on ps5 ready for when this game releases🥲