Should You Play Classic WoW in 2023?

Should you play classic wow in 2023? A player with over 100 days played gives his opinions and explains all your frequently asked questions about the game.
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[@Factsfun-kg4xc]

I quit WoW more than five years ago, but sometimes I feel tempted to go back. After all, I played it for 14 years of my life growing up. But I know that if I did, it wouldn't be the same. You can only grow up once, and the people and everything that made WoW the world I knew are no longer there. WoW was more than just a game. It was a portal to socialization, fun, memories, new friendships, challenging content, community-driven PvP events, and so much more. But I also know that if I went back, I would be chasing something that is gone forever. The WoW I loved is no longer there, and I would just be setting myself up for disappointment. So, instead, I choose to cherish the memories I have of WoW. I remember the late nights spent raiding with my friends, the excitement of new expansions, and the feeling of accomplishment after clearing a difficult challenge. I know that I can never go back to the WoW of my childhood, but I'm grateful for the time I had with it. It was a special experience that I will never forget.

[@stevejeffrey11]

don't come back, it was ruined by bots, tryhards, WoW token (gold buying), gdkps, etc. keep your memories intact mate

[@Factsfun-kg4xc]

@@stevejeffrey11 sounds awful. I'm staying away...

[@TheSinsOfAvarice97]

​@Factsfun-kg4xc I just came back and seeing my old character with the quel delar sword I was like fuck yeah let's go back came to my server and it was dead quiet the ui is a mess and it felt like almost hollow idk I might try classic but it definitely felt just so different from what I remember. I've been enjoying the private server project ascension

[@GrGal]

Beautiful expressed. Thank you, I needed exactly this.

[@fufu1405]

I felt this way until I tried Turtle WoW, it's honestly the closest to the magic you can get nowadays.

[@SaarimaaSauli]

I think HC Classic is more loyal to the old game feeling, it's not about rushing to max lvl, minmaxing, playing with optimal spec, class or anything. Only goal is to survive to 60. I enjoy it much more than the endgame rush to raiding.

[@algumnomeaihehe]

I'd argue hc forces you to optimize some, but in a way where you engage with content like alchemy and stuff during the leveling proccess, not just grind it all at endgame when it's meaningless

[@josedavidmunozmartinez4722]

Until more people start getting to lvl 60 and then die from a very random thing and rage quit the game because they'd have to start from scratch over and over with the risk of dying again at 60 by a different random thing. I can't foresee the future of HC, but if I'm not mistaken, I think it will die because of the above reason.

[@MrSteakable]

​@@josedavidmunozmartinez4722 HC is more about the leveling experience. Most people who play sign up for losing characters randomly -- that's the nature of the challenge. "the hardcore challenge" is complete when you hit 60 -- what players do afterwards is up to them. I don't think it's going away anytime soon. You can look at the community challenge version for proof of that.

[@SonofSolomon]

@@josedavidmunozmartinez4722They just transfer toons to another realm. No biggie.

[@Valariel]

I’ve been enjoying hardcore a lot. It brings back that sense of fear that you haven’t had since OG vanilla. The world is dangerous and you are just moving through it.

[@byteme0000]

I’m still playing Classic (Vanilla) WoW and have been steadily since September 2019 when it was released. In fact, I’ve recently created a new character. My (rhetorical) question is: why **wouldn’t** someone want to play it now?! It’s a great game, and there’s no hurry to rush to 60. I have three 60s and a couple of lower-level characters, but I love taking my time and enjoying the game with each character because I know that I don’t have to “keep up” with anything, nor do I have to worry that some silly expansion is coming that will make my hard-earned gear obsolete overnight. It’s s great game!

[@reisshep]

Same. The pacing in vanilla is perfect to me. Doing all 5 professions kind of ties in with the questing and it's actually useful. Every little bit of new gear with +1 stats is a good improvement. I'm playing with a group of friends as a 5-man party, we all chose different professions and sure we've been playing for hours only to reach like level 14 but it's the most fun I've had in MMO for years. TBC already ruined the magic of WoW.

[@Draigon18]

ok so when do the servers die? just seen a xaryu video where he checks on an old character and theres only like 30 bots playing, AH empty. the server was faerlina. why does this happen? and i hear everyones on whitemane now. any idea how long thatll keep going till the next new main server?? i think this is the last concern i have before i dive back in. o and is all the new hype only for hardcore? or are classic era and lich king also popping off right now? xaryu video i mentioned: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGHIXqSriseokKc

[@HiddenEnt]

I can happily say I've picked classic up again and had to make a new toon because I didn't play when they moved the toons to TBC. I've been online in the middle of the night (1am-8am) since coming back and have made several friends and have had no issues in finding groups to take down objectives. It feels so much more down to earth and people are generally more invested I personally feel. You can see (Most) people running around past 40 and appreciate their struggle to get to where you are as well and share those stories when you come across a new stranger. Obviously its not a perfect game but its something that's able to make me smile and give me moments of excitement that I just don't get in a lot of modernized games. So thank you to all who play classic with the mindset of a gamer logging into a world and being open to whatever or whomever crosses your path, I hope you find as much joy in this escape as I have.

[@gorrumKnight]

Hardcore has been the closest to old school feel than anything else. It's been the most fun & exciting thing I have played this year.

[@percnowitzki1724]

Yeah because u can actually meet people along the way that talk and help etc, that’s what made WoW vanilla so special was community. HC WoW is like vanilla except much much much less people.

[@byteme0000]

I’m not into HC myself, but I can certainly understand the attraction for many folks. Either way, it’s good to see so many people coming “back home” to the original and best WoW game.

[@itzsanjer]

Didnt played WoW back in classic. Started with MoP back days.. but wtf, WoW HC ist the most fun stuff I had for yeeaars. The feeling of an immersive MMO like in kids days. Feels so good but its even more worse when u die.@@byteme0000

[@al-batal]

you guys like pain huh

[@gorrumKnight]

@@al-batal Yes. XD

[@fengshuimma9160]

Im a new player, playing Wow classic HC. I understand why some pro's may not see the point to it, however as someone who doesn't know what I don't know, getting caught off guard by strange mechanics or irregular mob behaviour is incredibly fun. Most fun in a PVE i've had.

[@iabaca]

Bur you start again from dying to something trivial....

[@wouju9600]

@@iabacasome people like that challenge Think of dark souls for ex.

[@Rethmaa]

Since i dont have a lvl 60 on classic era, i have started to level on hardcore. Died at lvl 40 and now i continue leveling on era to 60. Its a blast.

[@Ludydobry]

Started playing 3 weeks ago on Classic Era, its so good. I havent expected this many players in all zones... Its so easy to get a group for a low level dungeon.. Last time i played WoW i rushed all that because i started in TBC, its great to be able to play it again with the propper gear and level. Its super interesting. There are many QOL features that would be great, hopefully they do something about it.

[@Milk-rn5uq]

i’ve been having a lot of fun on era as well.

[@Ludydobry]

where are you playing mate ? Im on Firemaw@@Milk-rn5uq

[@ParzivalMcfly]

I believe classic WoW is absolutely the best thing and have very high hopes classic+ is in the works. It feels like a no brainer. Much like OSRS and RS3.

[@saltyfry4328]

Yea the interest is definitely there

[@JAZ_2002]

Here’s hoping cus i doubt the mass majority would prefer Cataclysm Classic

[@ParzivalMcfly]

@@JAZ_2002 I definitely agree. I can’t see the majority liking the idea of essentially replaying the game expansion by expansion. At some point it just feels meaningless and not something stable for the MMO player. A consistent and stable classic ecosystem with updates to content like Old School RuneScape would be ideal. 👌

[@JAZ_2002]

@@ParzivalMcfly Indeed that would be the perfect timeline 💪Let’s just hope Blizzard realizes this

[@yaboyflvckor456]

classic era is dead, botters insane , econmy like retail...

[@seanwilliams7655]

If you're willing to come in to Classic and give it an honest shot, it can still be fun. If you want to recreate 2004-2008, then you're going to be nothing but disappointed. It's not, nor can it be, anything like what it was back then.

[@lightner6924]

Because the game back then wad new. Now we know the game sucks as the raids are easy and the leveling is slow and boring. There is nothing at end.

[@seanwilliams7655]

@@lightner6924 disagree. It's still fun, but it's not exactly fair to WoW that you're comparing modern games 20 years later, to a game that was designed to be played on dial up internet.

[@halionextra]

but why?

[@TheDynastyWarrior13]

I would highly recommend Classic HC, even for new players. I’m a noob and I’m having a blast on it. I don’t even mind starting over agin sometimes. But even if you do, you can just transfer to a vanilla server and keep playing, so I definitely recommend at least starting on a HC server. It’s so social and fun. I also really hope classic+ is on the way, I don’t like that everything after vanilla made most of the world irrelevant. They need more zones, quests, dungeons etc that coexist with the game world, so more early and mid level content, think horizontal expansion instead of vertical only

[@tripleraven]

i just started lvling up a warlock on classic. i just wanted to go on that journey again from 1-60.

[@bonkieboy9229]

kinda scary he mentions "even if u are watching after this is ulpoaded for 2 months", and it was exactly uploaded 2 months ago.

[@Cryptixx604]

Thanks Goblin, Great Video as Always!

[@carterneis8469]

Just the video I’m looking for. Haven’t played since warlords thanks man

[@mattmonroemusic90]

I never run GDKP's and I get decent gear and still have fun while not going broke. Gdkp's feel slimey and I don't have that much gold to waste.

[@TheMightyMango.]

What server would you pick if playing in Oceanic servers for classic era?

[@WideEyesGaming]

So I just started playing wow about 1 week ago and started with classic. I saw the hardcore stuff on twitch and it made me want to give it a try. I made a warrior and have gotten to level 25. It feels brutally slow. Should I make the switch to wotlk and try that out? I would love to find some people to play with but I'm not sure they would want someone who had never played before.

[@NightpireVideos]

Lots of other new players or old players returning that take it slow. Wrath leveling is much faster, because the new talents are very powerful right from the start.

[@stonwall9065]

It’s supposed to be slow. Enjoy the world and discover the secrets.

[@hyenaholicproductions9033]

I remember the time in a big raid, usually I am a tanking battle paladin, but our main healer went down, and the mages were on HP fumes. We won the raid purely because as a Paladin, I had healing powers and a big-ass hammer.

[@CharlotteJones-gl7yd]

Finally, a video that gets straight to the point without unnecessary fluff

[@PeterNordlund]

Thanks for and interesting video! but one thing i dont really get is the servers you recommend? i am on Pyrewood Village and it is low pop i see now, and its a "Normal" server not sure if that means no forced pvp but i thought so choosing it because i dont want pvp, on Firemaw it say pvp...is worh for me as a VERY casual player to restart on firemaw? (IF i can disable pvo that is) i have a 29 rogue on Pyrewood (and NO Hardcore)

[@jelvin_Meer]

How is it now, with season of discovery? Still worth or should you play SOD? Thanks :))

[@Vorusen]

Well I was on the fence ... guess I'm starting up classic wrath again. I always wanted to play it again but so many other games dropper and I always felt I'd be too far behind.

[@dommart4697]

upping your game metagoblin

[@ZDogg89]

I liked the old class/race combos. It limited each combos so if you wanted to play a Shaman/Paladin or Druid... you could do it on a few races. It forces people to play in different factions. Now a days, everyone is an Alliance Human.

[@Valariel]

If you start HC today, you’ll be in the same spot as a large fraction of the player base.

[@yohaneswi4935]

yes. lots of my friends are dying and restarting everyday 😅

[@Tito-hz9zh]

Can someone link me the video of the guy thar disconnects and the entire raid dies but him?

[@tmyrdal]

Will be cool if you also make a video about WoW Trolls, its a problem Blizzard still have not resolved, as it is almost no Game Masters in the game anymore.

[@xsykedelix3766]

played all of'em. lvl cap at 60 was the best for me!

[@OnlyLocus]

I want to start playing, idk anything about it, im young and looking for another game to grow old with

[@XPISTOS-ANESTH]

Is 2023 private servers are way more better than retail blizzards one imo.

[@VizzyX5]

i feel like i need to find a whole video about the diffrence between classic and wrath of the lynch king

[@mattias11]

03:00 How TF you knew I watching it 2 months after you uploaded it?! 😮

[@Flossy27]

Where can i find your nameplates for classic era?

[@danreder8985]

I thought dragon kill points was the old school system where u got points for being on time having pots and al that? When did that become the sales runs.. I've been thinking about this for the length of the video and no I can't remember the acronym for the bidding run

[@DerickTheHeroV2]

The difference is GDKP AND DKP. DKP is what you're describing. GDKP is just the name for bidding gold on gear. DKP was points based and earning points was about helping the guild and the like. GDKP is just the fancy name for bidding gold on loot, calling it an auction is the most honest way of explaining it.

[@kasplat5874]

If you want to play "classic" WoW, pre-TBC and Wrath, it is probably still a better experience on a private server where the server hosts actually care. And yes there is a "best" one, but it is close to capacity a lot of the time and technically it is beyond "classic" because of all the QoL features they added in addition to playable content not in Blizzard WoW.

[@stevejeffrey11]

yes no lagg, less boost and BS, actually banning bots but there can be just as many toxic tryhards on private servers

[@skidm0]

What server?

[@TheRaptorian]

​@@skidm0almost any server my dude. For example while Activision was catering to bots and cheaters servers like turtle wow added new raids and dungeons and new quests to the game, full servers, people playing its outstanding.

[@cukee23]

wotlk is 2nd expansion btw :)

[@CineGoodog]

8:50 lmao. That was prime Blizzard hardcore experience

[@NekoMoN1337]

I got into a full p v p server it’s kind of terrifying I don’t know where to transfer to I just didn’t want a dead server with bots all over. Can’t find a group can’t do anything

[@DuoMaxwell007]

so based on this video and what Im looking for it looks like I shouldnt play Lich King AT ALL... start on WoW Hardcore then transfer to vanilla classic when/if I die.

[@ArtZem66]

So you wanna say, that in some period of time will be catalysm classic and no wotlk classic? Why? If everyone love witlk most? And than will be next expansions classic? What the point

[@GraysonMMO]

Should I play hardcore even if Im a bit of a noob to Wow?

[@hokageeq]

If I absolutely hate one thing in my life, it’s definitely the fact that since I grew up, WoW was not that popular to where I’m coming from and based on this factor, I managed to get in touch with this universe quite late, more exacting when MOP got released. But ever since I played this game I always went on a solo journey as I have 0 contacts whatsoever. I have never been part of a guild for more than 1-2 months as I was always quitting due to limitations such as not finding people for raids and so on. Now I have decided to give it another try, on the Vanilla server, potentially finding a decent guild and finally to enjoy the game as I should’ve done it since MOP.

[@matticular]

how is your experience right now?

[@iTzic21]

yeah how's it going, if it still is?

[@geedj6249]

I have been keen to start WOTLK as i have had enough of retail wow but this gold bidding has really put me off i mean i dont do raids just dungeon tbh would it still be viable to play would you say? Retail just seems to complex now

[@byteme0000]

Sure it would. I have a full-on raiding character but, for most characters, my idea of end-game fun is running all of the level 60 dungeons, getting pre-raid BIS and/or getting complete dungeon armor sets (both Dungeon Set 1 and 2 if I'm really motivated). I also like to level professions and reputations. Also, I know of one guild that hosts many GDKP (bid-with-gold) raids regularly, but it's not nearly as common as some folks make it out to be. (I play on the NA server cluster.)

[@geedj6249]

@byteme0000 Thanks for the info really helpful stuff, I play on EU and will be doing the dungeons as well as you mentioned thanks for the info

[@Boneheaded0]

I’d play era before anything else if I was just starting out

[@zeakonz70]

Classic ERA still King 🎉❤

[@lucaswallo8127]

3:00 "Even if you're watching it 2 months after it uploaded". 2 months after lmao

[@v4ngeloz]

How are people playing servers locked at level 60?

[@KyloZach]

My dad has stopped playing warcraft for a while due to the way they changed their game a lot in the modern version. (Yeah, Greedy Blizzard) Thanks to the classic version, we both got on Wrath of the Lich King and we both had fun together taking on quests! I have played the modern version for a while so i had no problem.

[@klonzoll3920]

Who is that streamer at 8:50?

[@ryanberttand]

WoW is simply amazing! The graphics, gameplay, and community make it an unforgettable experience.

[@Zach-ck5jv]

Ok, here's a question that I couldn't find an answer for online: how often does a new expansion come to WoW Classic? I want to relive them all and this seems like a great way to do it, but how long will it take before WoW Classic is up to, let's just say, Dragonflight? Have the expansions been coming out at regular intervals?

[@ErwinLiao]

great vido bub

[@gregorygejoff1628]

no blizzard claims they disabled all pvp but made one huge change which is worse for the game overall not just for hc. They made it so if a gaurd hits you even if u don't fight back you get auto flagged.

[@KrisHiotis]

Is Wow Classic only for Wotlk? and hardcore they dont have vanilia wow?

[@comfortb4stylelol]

9:20 I honestly like when people keep it real I luved this part; I sometimes do GDKPs and when anyone makes a mistake or underperforms people lose their minds "blacklisting" people and rage quitting after only 1 maybe 2 wipes and they act like a spoiled manchild lol.

[@blaqkfrozste8750]

are there lvl 70 servers?

[@Trnd.y]

Im going to start classic! I just started wow retail but Im going to start classic! I come from FFXIV. I love questioning in wow so interesting! Edit: I subbed btw, great video

[@Akirauxu]

Same I’m from ffxiv and wasn’t sure which one to start but a friend recommended classic as a new player

[@Trnd.y]

@@Akirauxu bruhhh lets play

[@Trnd.y]

@@Akirauxu If you want to add me Trndy#1822

[@markspc1285]

Hey im from FFXIV as well!! Could I join you guys on classic?@@Trnd.y

[@user-it8hq1vv7i]

im from ffxiv too. not sure to play classic or wotlk. Also which server is recommended?

[@cartuxo999]

So with the dlcs coming in the future and the dungeon finder, the game will loose population again cuz we going to eventually have 2 equal wow games? In opinion it should stoped here

[@saltyfry4328]

Im surprised you didn't touch on Turtle

[@weaselsoup3105]

Classic wow is great. Its not just a rush to get to end game content. Its slow and everything in every zone is important.

[@joeyb5012]

It's the only decent MMO that runs on my laptop easily. Decision made 😅

[@xzxxx-km4vy]

No. What you should do is pick up the repack for single player where you can add 5k bots that will trade, grind skills, quest, do raids and everything.

[@loftus4453]

I spread my time between Classic Wrath and Classic Hardcore. Both are fun for different reasons. I’ll probably play regular Classic when my Hardcore toon inevitably dies. 😂

[@automatedsoul]

me watching this 2 months after its been uploaded 3:00

[@Chickenchucker]

playing hardcore just makes me want to play a fresh classic server. Hc is sick but I want to raid and pvp long-term on a fresh server. imo they should just do classic servers on a 12-14 month reset cycle or something like that, when it's done you transfer everything to classic-era. Kinda like d2 ladder.

[@Snipingisnothing]

Play on Whitemane, great community with the raiding/pvp you are looking for until SoM :)

[@justinthomas8154]

Is getting t2.5 really expensive? Is it impossible without buying gold?

[@gtcole04]

I haven’t played wow in like 15 years what is going on ?!?! I’m in.

[@tylerecho2589]

I’m coming back after a 9 year break, from playing since release. It seems HC is the way to go, I kinda hate that im excited for no rez 💀

[@matticular]

you still keeping at it? and wjat is the density of people looking like?

[@hofaho]

I tried to return wow but all I saw was like China bot, gold selling… Maybe I will come back later when 11.0 come out 😢

[@RevanLT]

It would be nite if we could transfer our characters from vanilla classic to classic.

[@isaarunarom7830]

Bro I wish, I had set bonus from t1 and t2 on my rogue, with Gm mace mh and aq trash drop made offhand. Was so much fun, only needed a a couple items out of bwl and was one binding away from TF. I miss og lvl 60 so much. But u hate Leveling. I'd rather pay for a level 58 toon and start there. Can't start at lvl 1 again

[@RevanLT]

@isaarunarom7830 I played Vanilla classic, just to get my dream items, Rag Hammer, and Corrupted Assbringer, even rolled as ret paladin, but they never dropped...

[@isaarunarom7830]

@@RevanLT on classic...or in vanilla

[@RevanLT]

@@isaarunarom7830 classic era

[@user-ei2xu3hh8h]

U mean transfer from 2019 classic era or from 2004?

[@fazeprogeralt3143]

The end of the video pretty much summed up my feeling of classic. I think its a great game, but the community actively makes the game a worse experience with botting, gold buying and general toxicity. Ive basically went back into retail because DF is actually pretty good and i can just chill

[@kevinmartin9674]

lmao not the nikocado cameo

[@dyshexiia]

Gdkp killed wow

[@Kensber85]

No the elitest jerks who refused to take ppl to raids unless u were top 1% killed wow. GDKPs were first type of runs to not discriminate No logs no problem is their motto

[@snobbymclobby1160]

I played vanilla to wrath years ago, this wrath classic sounds nothing like real wrath

[@user-nb3tz4pn5d]

MEMORIES

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

Do what you want but to me playing classic with addons that make it look like modern totally defeats the purpose for me.

[@ing_frantisek_mohykan]

please do the video also for 2024

[@Level-ts7xl]

for me, leveling to 60 was the most fun part of wow, which makes HC a blast

[@ihatebobsaget1989]

ive played since 2006, near vanilla version. imo wotlk in 2009 to 2010 was the peak of this game and it cant return to that glory

[@CulturedHeaven]

The only thing i dont like in classic is that we need to buy spells…

[@nervosadustbolt9642]

I'm not going to pay a bunch of Virtual Character's, Virtual money for Virtual gear. haha. I'll just deal without it until I get it on my own. Tortoise won the race, not the Hare.

[@Kfo221]

The bots and gold selling just suck all the motivation I have for playing on live servers again. The community is just a dumpster fire now. I know I can avoid it by joining a guild, but it's just not worth it anymore. If I have the urge, i'll just play a private server where they actually moderate RMT

[@koreancowboy42]

Honestly, is it worth playing "F2P" most likely not when I see the level cap is at 20...... for F2P and that I do not wish to spend 15 to 29 dollars for sub to play a game that couldve worked well as a F2P. Games like Guild Wars 2 and Runescape and other F2P games have done so perfectly fine without needing subscriptions to play a game fully.

[@chrisgraboski9133]

Paying a monthly fee for a 20yr old game…

[@llamallama1509]

Games haven't gotten more fun over the past 20 years. The graphics have just gotten more detailed but you get used to the graphics and stop noticing it within a few hours.

[@DrRussPhd]

the joys of "free market capitalism " . . .LOL

[@nextlvlroy]

I miss WoW, but GDKP made me quit the game. I miss Wrath :(

[@Clluthu]

I don't know why we should pay the same sub prices as retail wow.....

[@baleenmorning]

Imagine being this broke lol

[@bobshagit-io8lq]

8:49 it is a toxic cess pit, people are out to kiII you at every turn

[@minichampion2]

Over 100 days played ... Rookie numbers my friend :D :D

[@adamsme1314]

o cool classic

[@liamstewart-en2gm]

ill be cool if you also make a video about WoW Trolls, its a problem Blizzard

[@yukmoutb5885]

classic era is all gate kept by people who actually spent money cloning and everything is GDKP. How is naxx loot selling for over 100k for certain items? you tell me.

[@kyriacostheofanous1445]

this is why i just rolled a rogue and gank lowbies, only way i can enjoy the game

[@mowhi6375]

I actually do the keto diet

[@itsyaboiherman]

How do I get a bot?....asking for a friend 😂

[@dommart4697]

era

[@dr.hawkins]

Watching this in 2024

[@markopolo6975]

Only 100 days played ? you gotta get those numbers up those are rookie numbers.

[@GalloPhilips]

I'm just hanging out in the seasonal waiting room.

[@ancientseed2607]

If you play classic wow and are raiding endgame be prepared to spend hours farming for potions and sitting in discord with nerds talking about how to increase their dps by 0.0001%. And even when you clear all content they still find things to bitch about.

[@yeow1507]

Been playing Classic Wow Season of Discovery, I like it WAY more than Retail. Retail is soulless and people play it as a chore, Classic is just for fun imo.

[@Frisia-]

only if youre 19 years old with depression and no standards

[@Frisia-]

hc is an improvement but i dc 4 times each day for months