Should You Still Buy the Logitech MX Master 3s?

Should you buy the Logitech MX Master 3s mouse in 2024? I think it still has potential, but there are downsides too! Let's unbox the mx master 3s and see what we find out after using it.
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[@TheHopelessGeek]

I forgot to clarify one important aspect about the battery life. It takes around 45 min to fully charge and easily lasts for a month of regular use, 7 to 8 hours a day.

[@sanuthomas2657]

I was today years old when I learn you can press shift to scroll horizontally🙁

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😂I don't blame you. Most such useful shortcuts are not common knowledge.

[@mr1stcarlos]

I must have heard it but don’t remember

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I discovered it when I accidentally pressed shift and scroll instead of control, trying to zoom in.

[@MikeAnn193]

OMG, don't feel bad! I just learned it from _you,_ this minute! 😮 (And yes, thank you also to @TheHopelessGeek because I heard him mention it in the video but didn't understand and already forgot.) When I read your comment I went up to the tabs bar in Firefox, pressed Shift, and scrolled on my cheap little Logitech M325 mouse, and saw the tabs bar move sideways! 😃 I've been using computers since the mid 80s and didn't know that!!

[@MikeAnn193]

@@TheHopelessGeek about common knowledge -- evidently true!

[@levon9]

Great review - thanks. I've only used cheap mice so far. I had ordered the Logitec Lift, but it's too different of a hand position, so now I'm going for the MX Master 3s .. should be here tomorrow :)

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Nice! I'm sure you'll like it 😊

[@mumbaikachallenge5526]

This is amazing vifro thanks for great review❤️

[@TheHopelessGeek]

👍🏼thanks

[@tsiddiq23]

Great review

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Thanks 🙏🏼🙂

[@MikeAnn193]

Yes, it is. I meant to say the same thing but was too wrapped up in my disappointment about what I learned.

[@Ozzie4Para]

Here's my question. This mouse can be linked to three different computers. So I link it to my main computer. Then lets say I need to reset my computer back to factory status. Now I need to pair up this mouse again. Does this mean I will need to use a different connection point or can I still use the first point where it was originally set up? I hope that's the case because otherwise what's going to happen if I reset my computer more than three times? Will that make the mouse un-pairable because I have already used the three link points?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Just like any other Bluetooth device, you will be able to pair the same point to the reset device once again.

[@captainslocum]

Thanks for the review, very useful. I bought the 3s for Mac because I needed a three button mouse for use with DaVinci Resolve and the magic mouse didn't really cut it. I have to say this is a great mouse, very ergonomic and I use it now for just about everything in preference to the magic mouse. Apart from one thing - vertical scrolling in text. If I'm running down a list on web or a document, then the magic mouse is really smooth, enabling me to read as I go along. The 3s is jerky (yes, I have set it to smooth scrolling) making it impossible to comfortably read as I go. Is there any reason why Apple can make their mouse scroll genuinely smoothly and Logitech can't? Or have I missed something? Reply

[@TheHopelessGeek]

If you mean the page moves up and down while trying to scroll smoothly, I faced it too. It's most likely related to us having to get used to it.

[@captainslocum]

Thanks for responding. No, that's not the problem. The window remains still, but as I scroll with the 3s (with smooth scroll selected in settings), the page text moves up in little jerks, instead of infinitely smoothly as with the magic mouse. Is it something to do with refresh rate?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I see. Maybe it's their software tool's issue on MacOS. 😅

[@lukogs]

I loved using this during internship period. It was like going on a glorified motorboat than the pedal boat. Do you know any alternative to this? Do we even have copy cat for this?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I had searched for some, but ended up just buying the real thing😅. I'll see if anyone else makes something similar.

[@lukogs]

@@TheHopelessGeek I tried the likes of zebronics, portronics and what nots. All feel like i'm using boat made of 20L water can. Currently using one called "endefo" which has 1 dongle for both keys and mouse. but it's still bad to use....

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I pretty much gave up on budget tech. Even though I don't always want to, I just buy premium things when I have a need, because they'll just be better and last longer.

[@dhrumilpatel2829]

That infinite scrolling wheel looks amazing Edit: whats the giveaway mouse name ?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

It feels amazing too! ✨

[@minnybiker4505]

I'm not sure my work will let me install the software... but as I get older, i value "delightful" user experiences. I use my mouse mainly in Excel 40 hours a week. On one hand, a $99 mouse seems silly. And on the other hand, i use it all day, so I should get a good one. I'm tired of my old wired mouse, i feel like I'm always tugging on the cord. Can't decide between the MX 3s or the m720. Hmmm... thanks for the great video!

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂yes, this is a pleasant mouse to use. But it needs that annoying software to do anything but the default mode of operation 😅. It has Excel macros built in, but again, it needs that software. You can still use it for comfort and convenience though

[@MikeAnn193]

Wait, the Logi Options+ software has to be running all the time to use this mouse??? 😲You're right, you are the first person I've heard say that. I _can't_ run it because I'm on a Linux system, which the software isn't compatible with. Before I heard that, I was therefore going to ask whether the buttons work out of the box, and if they work, what do certain buttons do by default? For example, does the button behind the top scroll wheel change the scroll sensitivity by default, or does it have to be programmed to do that? And does the side wheel offer horizontal scrolling function by default, or does it have to be programmed? But now I'm even more concerned than I was. Confused, too, because on the Logitech website it says "basic functions" (whatever that means) work without software on operating systems other than Windows & Mac. 😔

[@TheHopelessGeek]

The mouse works without the software, but you can't program anything without the software. Not even the DPI. By default, the top button changes the scroll wheel mode between line by line scroll or smooth scroll.

[@MikeAnn193]

Okay, @@TheHopelessGeek that's a relief. And thanks for letting me know about the top button. Do the side buttons also have a use without programming?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Yes, the side buttons will work as forward and back navigation buttons by default without the software.

[@yjas8904]

​@@TheHopelessGeekmy guy how about the gesture? does it function as default or not functioning at all without the software? I'd like to use it with my conpany laptop but sadly it's not complete without the software

[@TheHopelessGeek]

The gesture button works as default without the software. You can use it to show/hide desktop, switch workspaces, etc. But it isn't very intuitive. I would rather use the keyboard shortcuts 😅

[@janer805]

Thank you for a thorough review. I would have saved my time if I watched this before purchasing. None of the other videos specified the software requirement like you did. Unfortunately, I cannot used this for work (which is why I bought it) because they won’t allow software installation due to security reasons(you need admin password). This renders this mice useless for its purpose since I can’t maximize the functionality.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Exactly! It's such an important detail. I'm surprised so many expert reviewers missed this.😅

[@wotwot6868]

Razer has the same malware.. once you plug it in, it runs a setup software.. The most annoying thing is that this happens for every computer that does not have their bloatware.. Can you comment if the software for the 3S slows down your computer?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I haven't noticed any slowdowns, thankfully. But it doesn't always run in the background. You *have to* keep it on to make sure your shortcuts and macros are working. So annoying 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@kingshukdutta5362]

This is my favorite mouse of all time. Although I use MX Master 3, I love the gestures of the mouse & it's been 2 years since I use this mouse. I use it on my both PC & Mac

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I'm liking it so far too, all things considered 🙂

[@davidrlifts]

can the horizontal scroll wheel be pressed as a button as well?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

No, it cannot be pressed. It's just for scrolling.

[@debjit2660]

i was considering the g502x cause it has 1000hz polling and side/infinite scroll too, will it be good?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Oh, that might be a nice option too. But it's wired, and I don't think it has a side scroll wheel. 🤔

[@debjit2660]

yeah it has the scroll wheel tilts side ways @@TheHopelessGeek

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I see.

[@speedfrx]

G502 X is the best, wired or wireless.. The biggest downside of 3S is a lack of rocking scrollwheel

[@shonilcha]

Hemanth, do u know if that software can be coverted to a portable EXE? in that case, there wont be any need to install it again.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Hm..I think it's available as an exe file once downloaded. What can be done with it? 🤔

[@shonilcha]

@@TheHopelessGeek I am thinking that if we install the software on one machine, apply all the mouse tweaks and configs, save the settings and then convert the software to a portable EXE, then, in other systems, you just have to run the EXE which would have the saved settings, instead of reconfiguring everything from scratch

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I see. Would this portable exe file need admin permissions to run?

[@shonilcha]

@@TheHopelessGeek I don't think so. it's just like another safe exe

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Ah, I see. Some office laptops require their admin password to run exe files. 😅

[@thesoullessnihilist]

I upgraded from a MX 3 to the MX 3S, the app toggler button worked perfectly in the MX 3 and for some reason it will not work on the MX 3S at all. Should've kept the old MX 3, worked way better.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I see. Yeah, I'm annoyed that this mouse needs a software everywhere it's used 😕

[@Vicky-il5yv]

Some credits to me for this video 😀, I asked for mouse videos after you did lots of keyboards 😆. Well... as you know I was looking for a durable scroll wheel mouse. Infact I read this somewhere that it comes with a durable scroller. But too costly to choose for a mouse. There should have been a mouse one-third or half of the price with good durability, infact with atleast 1 year warranty. Missing DPI control was surprising for me, even you can find Rs 800 priced mouse with DPI button without having dependency on software.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Yeah, thanks for your suggestion 😊. I noticed that this the top button on this mouse can be set to change DPI, but only through the software again 😂. I wish it had inbuilt memory.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Hey dude! You won the mouse✨ Drop your email or discord ID here and I'll message you!

[@Vicky-il5yv]

@@TheHopelessGeek Thankyou very much bro.. for this. But I would like to request you to give it to some one who is really in need of such mouse (may be another random pick or runner-up ). To be honest I am not a gamer, It would be more helpful for the people who plays games and love wired RGB mouse. 🙂 Well..thanks again Hemanth for picking me up. You made my day, as I am feeling lucky today. 😇

[@MikeAnn193]

What a nice gesture, @@Vicky-il5yv -- not to be confused with a mouse gesture. 😉👍

[@Vicky-il5yv]

@@MikeAnn193 yeah..I got your comment 😀. Thanks :)

[@anantplays2603]

Changing the DPI on the go especially while gaming, that's definitely needed aint it....

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Yeah. You can set the top button to change the DPI, but that changing has to be done on the software too 😂

[@vmsulthan]

Okay, now customise & test each and every button in each software specifically and use this mouse for more than 3 months. Then review it again. Trust me, you won't regret using it & never wanna go back to regular one. Also, Bluetooth connection is enough for this one. Keep the dongle somewhere, though. Saving the data on the mouse is such a good idea, that one should have been there tbh. Been using mx 3 for 2 years now, I never thought that way.😅

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂👍🏼 yes, I'll test this out as it'll be my main mouse from now

[@daskes123]

I really dislike my white model as the rubber finish on it has started degrading severely and discolored as well. The discoloring happened very quickly, but at this point the rubber is just starting to fall apart.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I see. Mine seems alright so far. I'm using it every day.

[@akshayverma8551]

yepieee, lets see whos gonna win!

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😀good luck!

[@nitesh7322]

I use 502 for extreme productivity

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Ah, that one with additional buttons?

[@mastermind9711]

Hello bro, Which red switch mechanical keyboard should I buy under 2500? I need it for coding

[@TheHopelessGeek]

This one would be nice. It has outemu red mechanical switches. amzn.to/3GgsekB

[@mastermind9711]

​@@TheHopelessGeekThank you 🙏

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂👍🏼 anytime

[@Shubhampalzy]

Buy the new series of CB GK 18. It has swappable switches and under 2500

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Yes, it's good. But I'm concerned about their lower service standards now.

[@kingshukdutta5362]

in 9:23 when you mentioned about Apple Fans, I am indeed an apple fan & ironically I don't like Magic Mouse 🤭

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😂haha, you're a sensible one then.

[@Ameen_Sha]

I would love to get this.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂👍🏼sure

[@regex679]

What about the key board giveaway T~T

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I'll do that one too. 😂

[@osingaaa4545]

Like always nice video. Suuuuuiiiii. as i already have a mouse i hope someone who deserves wins it. Goodluck Kiddows

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😎✌🏼S U I I I

[@MikeAnn193]

Very nice thought 👍

[@shaikayaz2003]

Let's see who's lucky here🎉

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂 you'll find out soon, today!

[@timmyblast]

my scroll wheel is horrible

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Why is that? Maybe it is locked with the scroll mode? Try pressing the button on top of the mouse. It switches the smoothness of the magnetic wheel between infinite scroll and tactile scroll.

[@shaikahmed154]

I am very much interested in the giveaway 😅

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😂👍🏼cool!

[@paulgaurav72]

next time try Razer Basilisk product .

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Hm.. I think Razer products are even more overpriced than these 😅

[@paulgaurav72]

@@TheHopelessGeek try ofline market same price 9.5k but you dont get side scroll wheel

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Hm.. okay, I'll try.

[@dracula5752]

i think at the top right there should be skip creating account

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Hm..true. But it still won't solve the issue that you need this software on every single machine you use this mouse on 🙄

[@dracula5752]

true stupid... any other recommendations for mouse?@@TheHopelessGeek

[@AlexSeligerX]

I would not recomend this product. it is good that your instance turned on. My one even did not react: no turning on, no charging. I see on internet it is common problem(( too bad, good ergo some people experienced such problem suddanly after some time of usage.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Oh, I didn't expect that from a mouse of this price😕

[@AlexSeligerX]

@@TheHopelessGeek yeah, me too(

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Did you get a solution? A replacement, perhaps?

[@AlexSeligerX]

@@TheHopelessGeek I just bought it yesterday. I'll speak with shop-assistant at first to avoid facepalme situation that I didn't managed to turn it on. But I looks like very strainght.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Ah, you bought it at a store. It should be easy to get a replacement then

[@user-tf1fu4pl9o]

Iam trying my luck in this giveaway lets see what happends

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😊👍🏼good luck, and for future ones too.

[@dyceman]

Yup give me the mouse for research purposes

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🤔sus. What research?

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Congratulations! You're the newly picked winner. The one best you didn't respond 😅. Just reply with you email or discord and I'll message you.

[@praneysingh1817]

The ux of the app is cool

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Yeah, it's very well made. I just wish it would save the settings on the mouse itself 😅

[@justshashank1176]

Feels like this mouse has one extra chromosome.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😂hehe. For real, it has some weird features like that soft-touch button

[@s-jj3kb]

i think as a 3rd year student with specialization in Graphics and Gaming that mouse could really be useful to me in many softwares

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂👍🏼 the one I'm giving away is quite decent. I personally used it for a long time.

[@s-jj3kb]

@@TheHopelessGeek yep i could use that too ;-)

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😅👍🏼 cool

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Hey bro, the original winner said they dont need the prize. So you are the second pick! Just reply with your contact (email or discord ID) and I'll message you 😊

[@s-jj3kb]

@@TheHopelessGeek bro I've replied to your comment way many times, but it automatically goes away when i check it again after some time. I've messaged you on inatagram and discord as well.

[@SRLYRICS22]

Hope i will win this giveaway 😀 Seeing this video from India 🇮🇳 Expensive products are not made for middle class family though I hope I will win 😁

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😊I will try to give away as many goodies that I can get. I, too, once used to dream of getting nice things. With your support, I can afford them now and wish to give back ✌🏼

[@SRLYRICS22]

@@TheHopelessGeek 😊

[@ayazshaik8228]

I am interested in the mouse give away😅

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂👍🏼sure

[@manoz3590]

I have red dragon m808

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Is it good? 🙂

[@Piyushkumar-vk2sc]

I wonder how this mouse will perform in gaming😂😂.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Probably not very well, given it doesn't have a high polling rate 😂, but that scroll wheel can do wonders!

[@sharkieislive]

hello can i win that giveaway mouse? my current mouse is a 300 rs mouse and scroll wheel is now really bad. It creates so much issues in premiere pro and AE while zooming in and out the timeline

[@TheHopelessGeek]

The scroll wheel on that giveaway mouse is decent 🙂👍🏼

[@sharkieislive]

@@TheHopelessGeek how much the polling rate? older one

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Not completely sure, but it could be 1000Hz. Is there a way you test it?

[@sharkieislive]

@@TheHopelessGeek yes just type in mouse polling rate test in any browser. then move your mouse in circles. it will tell

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I did that on a website called CPS Check. It says maximum detected is 135 Hz. I was moving the mouse left to right pretty fast.

[@sarwgya3038]

Omg too much expensive cannot afford this😂

[@TheHopelessGeek]

It indeed is! I debated getting this for a long time and finally bit the bullet😅

[@arunkumarrai3447]

Cool Stuff 😅

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Yeah 😀

[@ssrishailam5483]

I can't buy this product soo I want to win my first. Giveaway 😉 bro 😁

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I hope you know I'm giving away the second gaming mouse I showed, not the MX Master 3s😅

[@ssrishailam5483]

@@TheHopelessGeek oh ok bro np

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂👍🏼

[@user-jj1ty7kx4l]

I thought you are million or more followers

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Nah. It's not that easy for a generic ol' bloke like me 😅

[@daksh002]

waooo cca cra pro grade high quality bruh wot maybe it is better than those free bies

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Yes, that was the point. It's miles ahead of the stock ones for the same price.

[@dibyanshmohanta752]

So basically It's an excellent mouse that is useless without its app 🤭

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Yeah, well, not useless. But greatly impaired 😅

[@MikeAnn193]

That's what I'm trying to understand, @@TheHopelessGeek and @dibyanshmohanta752. I have a Linux-based computer and therefore can't use the Logitech software. I've discovered and installed a Linux applet called Solaar that evidently does _some_ of those things. But none of the settings on my current mouse, a cheap Logitech M325 that I bought a few years ago in an emergency, are adjustable in Solaar. So I can't test the software yet, but I _can_ see that it can apparently adjust various things like scroll resolution and direction, show battery level, and even do gestures and key assignments, with a compatible (meaning probably more advanced) mouse. As for Logi Options+ I don't need all the key assignments stuff, and (because of Solaar) may not need any of the other features, either. *I just want all the buttons and wheels to do something useful out of the box.* But if the Logitech software has to be installed and running for the mouse to work, I'm screwed! 😑

[@EDISON_SCIENCE_CORNER]

😅😅🎉

[@TheHopelessGeek]

🙂

[@noumannoor8058]

Me me me.. i want to win the give away 🎉❤

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😅👍🏼sure

[@justyouraveragejoemama5575]

I am here

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Thanks for being here 😎🫡

[@okishan]

30 min charge for 5 days. Deal breaker.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

I wildly underestimated. It lasts for a month 😅

[@marcosangelmedina5845]

haha edit is epic! xdd

[@TheHopelessGeek]

😄 thanks!

[@daksh002]

expensive shit skips on basic things razer software is shit but the v3 basilisk mouse was godd but had to retrurn it

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Logi's software is good, but doesn't make it convenient to use quickly across multiple devices

[@sarwgya3038]

hello

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Magnificent Mouse Greetings

[@vanveenmatt]

Just get the software. For most of us it's not a problem. Problem solved.

[@TheHopelessGeek]

In my opinion, devices should be more autonomous and should not rely on an underlying software to do their tasks. It'll help them integrate seamlessly across various platforms, like MacOS, Linux, Android, etc.

[@sourabhsharma2746]

It is a problem bro…. Have to cancel the order shittt

[@howiprotectyou]

yoo

[@TheHopelessGeek]

Lesgoo ✊🏼