Should you upgrade to a 2025 Jeep Wrangler?

[@DIRTROADCRED]

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[@jsm11weld]

Biggest upgrade from an older unit is the transmission.

[@Daniel-ds8nd]

been a wrangler owner since 2022. I love it! I should have purchased one years ago! I was brainwashed into thinking wranglers are bad vehicles.

[@TomB1984]

“They’re my favorite vehicle. I don’t care.” Good job man. Same here. Had several jeeps since I was 16. Probably will always have one.

[@krisorendorff]

Mine was built in March and April 2024, and, i LOVE IT!! Wrangler 4 door 6 cylinder and, She's my first ever Jeep !!

[@laughingbird]

Congrats man!!!

[@souloftheghost]

Wait 6 cylinder ?!!! What type please rubicon or what ?

[@oliverham4227]

Jeep owner for life! Im with you! Its a way of life!

[@thisismycurrenthandle]

I have a 2015 JK Willys. Paid off, 85k miles, near stock. 0% change I am getting rid of this any time soon. Newer is not always better! Hope Wrangler is able to reduce prices and get back to their roots soon.

[@TomB1984]

Jeep owner for life!

[@roderickhance2088]

I just bought a 2017 JKU and love it! Looking forward to making it my own mod wise. Now budget was the main reason I went with a JK vs JL, but I’m glad I did so far. I hope you guys are still looking for a JK build on the channel. Love the content as always.

[@Dmh06178]

Once a Jeep lover…always a Jeep lover!! Nice video- thanks Matt and Ryan!!

[@evertonwhite1913]

I'm from Ontario, Canada with my very first owned 2024 Wrangler JLU Willys (delivered July 2023) with nearly 80,000km on it and I LOVE IT! I've been offroading a few times with it and it's a beast! Won't be getting a 2025 as I plan on getting bigger tires and a lift kit! This one is a keeper!

[@megstafford8309]

Matt, you’re right! I had ordered a manual 2024 Jeep Sport in Anvil but ended up not going that route since the pricing was outrageous. I ended up in a 2024 Earl 2DR Willys and love it! Personally, I’m glad I didn’t wait until 2025

[@quitoduck]

I've got a '24 2 Dr Willys in Anvil and love it also!

[@davewhanger6722]

I don't have a Jeep right now. But I have many in the past. And I am a Jeep person along with a mopar person! There is always something special about a Jeep. I've always had CJS!

[@oscarzana1728]

There’s nothing basic about my 392. It turns heads. It breaks necks, it’s a bad ass beast.

[@ExpeditionaryJeep]

💯 nailed it! Jeeps are often considered a special breed of vehicle due to their rugged design, off-road capabilities, and its historical significance!

[@shawngosciminski9300]

Ive always wanted a jeep, so i bought a 2018 moab trim package back in 2019. So it was a year old at the time with 15K on the speedo. I will have this for years. I love it. I was the type of person that would buy a vehicle and trade it in after afew years. But for many reasons im keeping my 2018. Just turned 61k on the odometer as of yesterday. With the jeep wrangler there is just so many hop ups and things u can do to it. Its practically impossible to ever get bored with these vehicles..

[@chipparmley]

This is the video first time buyers need to see after they watch a review from people who normally test drive sports cars, and high end luxury sedans.

[@allAmerican316]

I was just delivered my ‘25 Wrangler sport 2 door, 3.6 manual. My last Wrangler was an ‘04 Sport 4.0 manual. The new one is far and beyond the quality and ride comfort from my previous, however, nothing beats the straight six. Glad to be back

[@DIRTROADCRED]

Glad to hear you're enjoying the new one!

[@missyoyo34]

I’m waiting for mines to be delivered, first Jeep I’ve bought. Congratulations on the new ride 👋🏾

[@allAmerican316]

@ Congrats! Nothing beats a Wrangler!

[@robognu5000]

We’ve had our ‘15 jku sport since new. It was the first vehicle that all three of our kids drove. We just passed 80085 (😅) miles. Basic mods that we’ve done at home include steel front bumper, winch, lift, tires, big brake kit, front driveshaft, wheels & tires, on board air, reinforced hinge for spare etc. we’ve had a ton of fun in it and we would all miss it if we sold it or traded it in. That being said, I have really been thinking how much I’ve love to start over with a new 2 door manual. We never use the rear seat anymore now that two of our kids have their own cars. I really dig the mojito color and I’m glad to see it come back. Not sure what I’ll end up doing, but if we “upgrade” it’ll be a 2 door.

[@verticallines212]

2 door 2025 3.6L wit auto, so I will have to wait! still running my 1978 CJ7 304 bored out to 360cc wit a 1992 tub, with one kidney left. lol & I love it! nyc I got space X to send me off in my jeep toward eternity

[@dingebre]

I don’t know… comparing to my first CJ2A bought in ‘75, my new 2024 392 is pretty luxurious 😂

[@LaGuns-yo9be]

I bought my first wrangler in November of last year. Actually got it from eBay. It had been wrecked. Front end damage only and had been repaired. It’s a 2018 sport S. Mileage was just over 30000 miles and paid 23000 for it. Since then i have lifted it, put a winch on it, put 37s on it, re geared it, put a PRV sound system in it, Stinger 10 to replace the old 5.3 inch uConnect system, MetalCloak the whole underside of the vehicle, MetalCloak fenders and inner fenders, MetalCloak back bumper, motobilt taillights, etc. I’m sure i missed something. Best thing for me is it’s a 2-door. Color is ocean blue. Used distinction applied for door handles, latches on hood, and the windshield wiper thingies lol. I am absolutely in love with my jeep. It is everything and more than i expected. I am hooked guys. Im a 58 year old retired dentist living his childhood again. Love y’all’s channel. I have all of the creature comforts that i need. Wish i had power seats, but that’s it. Thank you for what yall do.

[@StlrNtn95]

How do you like the Stinger 10, and do you have their new one with wireless carplay? I've been looking at them for a while but heard of some issues and hoping they work the bugs out.

[@LaGuns-yo9be]

@@StlrNtn95 i love it and no i dont have the wireless CarPlay. Wish i did but its ok

[@StlrNtn95]

@LaGuns-yo9be OK, just curious. It's a sharp looking setup for sure. I believe the one with wireless just came out in the last couple of months.

[@mikegriffin1]

Keeping my ‘22 Rubicon and putting on a Clayton 2.5” lift next spring, thanks to watching your channel these last couple years.

[@joeg9810]

Great info thanks. Looking at getting one in research mode! Any tips greatly appreciated. Deals on 24s seem decent.

[@EverythingRVbyPat]

I got a Wrangler Rubicon 4xe in August of 22. I got it on a lease and I have loved it. I tow a little teardrop trailer and my wife and I go out to campgrounds I could never even imagine taking my 5th wheel. We haven't gotten too crazy on rough trails but it is definitely not been a mall crawler. I have taken it up hills, through dunes and through a lot of mud. I have always been an owner of a 4x4 truck but this go around I decided on a Jeep. I am very pleased that I decided to go this direction. My frustration is now with the recall and the fear of the battery exploding. I'm afraid that Stelantis is going to go bankrupt and that will be the end of Jeep as we know it due to this recall issue. I would definitely get a 2025 Jeep Wrangler or Gladiator but I can't do anything with my vehicle until this recall issue is done. I can't sell or trade it in on a new one. So I'm basically screwed... In the meantime I am going to use it and not worry about it. Great video, Pat

[@marcwolfson2179]

Hey Matt- Another great video. Just completed a Rubicon, CA adventure. Was looking to trade in my BMW 540 pillow barge. M Series with every option imaginable. Looked at a lot of SUVs and somehow my Snazzberry JLU Rubi stole my heart. Started with small upgrades from your videos (seat covers, storage solutions, etc.) then upgraded to 35" BFGs with 17" beadlocks and a 2.5" lift, Warn Winch, upgraded DV8 bumper. I probably could have done it on my stock JLU but had some much more confidence with my new setup. What people don't get is the Jeep community. So many great people helping you out with everything you encounter. I now know all the parts of my suspension and what they do. Something I just took for granted when the BMW dealer said it was a $2500 repair. Now I know better and many things I can do myself. My jeep built my confidence that I'm not just a victim. I can get myself out of a jam when I need to with a little help from my friends along the way.

[@DIRTROADCRED]

Love to hear this story, thanks so much for sharing!

[@SK-rk5dd]

My first Jeep was a 2024 Willys "loved it" that I kept for 6mo and traded in for a 2024 392 "Love it More!" I will never buy another vehicle again unless it's another Jeep! Fan for life!

[@Wrangzilla]

No. But upgrading my 20 JLUR to Dana 60’s sounds more appealing….

[@semiccap]

While we are bagging on Jeep, lets remember how long the brand has been around, how many times its changed hands and how theyve eventually listened to owners for development (4 doors, V8, etc). FCA may be struggling with the brand, they may screw it up, but you can be fairly confident that Jeep will survive and at worst be sold off to another company.

[@WreckedBrewery]

I have my first wrangler (3rd Jeep) as a 2024 JLUR 6MT and I absolutely love it. I hope to keep it a long time.

[@Deathon2legs2002]

I'll be upgrading from a 2010 2-dr to a Gladiator, probably 2024. I hate the prices, but I think Jeep is going to go through some tough times in a few months.

[@IndymanPhilly]

I love the Mojito green. Glad they brought it back in 2025. I have been looking for a JL in Majito and couldn't find the color/engine combo I wanted. I wanted the Majito but with the inline 4 cylinder engine. I do not like V pattern engines. They have durability issues. The inline, more HP, more torque, and durability through the roof. Also have better fuel economy compared to V pattern engines. I like for 2025 they have a inline 6 cylinder now. Awesome!!!

[@MrWheatle]

Loved this episode. I’m one of those folks that discovered you as part of my research 2-3 months ago as I prepared to depart from my X5 and , most recently, my 13 yo Q5. And after months of research my mind was made up! Jeep! Plus, I’m a City Planner and was completely enamored by the “Community “ aspect of Jeep. My 2024 Willys arrived on Saturday. Can wait to really get it on the road and the trails!

[@MrBlueJK4]

I think you are spot on with the primary issue for Jeep why they are struggling to sell. 70-80k for a "Luxury" vehicle people A) switching from a Land Rover or BMW, and they aren't really off road people will be disappointed by Jeep, and those looking for a Body on Frame, solid front axle type of vehicle, even if they do light off roading on the weekend and drive to work during the week, may enjoy the jeep but will question the cost compared to BMW, Mercedes, Land Rover .....

[@robertmansfield196]

Right now...I'll be keeping my 2018 JLU Rubicon. Runs and rides great on 37in Nitto's with 2 in Mopar lift.

[@rickwisniewski8619]

Everyone always says jeeps are garbage and have quality problems. I have been buying jeeps for almost 30 years I never had one problem ever! My latest is a 2022 grand Cherokee l. I absolutely love it.

[@shiftintohigh5564]

Well done...especially the Wrangler disclaimer. It is what it is and not something else. Might swap the 24 for 25 Mojito. We will see.👍

[@gtamantube]

Had a 2018 loaded rubicon; had a 2004 LJ; had a 2015 sahara manual; just bought a 2022 Bronco; steers better; more power and No Corrosion everywhere! I had my 2018 spit shined and it jist kept corroding more places; had fixed once it came back I was done

[@hankpilot]

1st Wrangler ordered!! AEV JL350 Fathom Blue!! Through DC!! Crazy excited!!

[@andrewtippitt6469]

23 JLU Willys XR. The appeal of a rear locker or the full float on the Rubi gave me some buyers remorse for not waiting. The option packages on the 23 was just so much better. 24 and 25 options seems like Jeep mixed crap options in with the desirable options to force stuff on buyers. Straight forward sales practices but Ill be sticking with the 23 as long as i can keep it in one peice.

[@gilbertferguson1685]

Love our 2022:two door base Wrangler with 3.6 engine and auto trans.

[@cleveland53015]

Video updates are always great. I share them in my 5k member FB Jeep group. Much appreciate the info you put together.

[@anthonyarenella2541]

I had a 2016 wrangler JKU Sahara 6 speed and it had an aev dual sport suspension and that thing drove great. I traded it for a 21 rubicon diesel and I honestly liked how my old jeep drove more. With that said, I always planned to upgrade to a Clayton 2.5 lift so i wasn’t too disappointed and I really wanted a diesel

[@scottcarpenter7623]

Ive got a 2021 JLU Sport and love it! First Jeep and not my last so plan is to pay it off and get a Gladiator to pair with my Wrangler. Love the channel!

[@teedeerolo]

Yes we LOVE jeeps!! it has became part of my life and who I am. Great info as always Thank you Guys! I have a 2 door 21JL I want to get a Gladiators but I don't think the 25's are what I want yet. maybe the 26"s will have what I want so I am staying with the 2 door JL and the wife's 23' 4xe Rubicon.

[@LukeEdward]

Bought a 2018 JL 2-door Sport with (unavailable) manual everything like Ryan, with the (unavailable) e-Torque, and the (unavailable) Sting-Grey color in May 2019, with a bumper to bumper 8 year warranty. Been paid off for years. Yes I had some corrosion issues. But, that, and the other items have been taken care of for $0 through the warranty. I cant come close to replacing it, but If I had to, it would be $44K+ - $3k more than I paid for my 2023 Gladiator. When the warranty expires in May 2027, I’ll start thinking about it. AND I Love my 2023 manual Gladiator Rubicon, as well. Less than $77,000 into both of them, including aftermarket upgrades, lifts, accessories, etc. There is ZERO reason for me to upgrade to a 2025. Go #Dunkin !!!!!

[@DIRTROADCRED]

Come on the channel Luke!!! We’re waiting

[@LukeEdward]

@@DIRTROADCRED I do apologize as I just remembered I haven’t sent y’alls pics. I’m such a lazy dingus.

[@That_Paul_Guy]

I love my Power Wagon, really. I had a Gladiator and hated the ride. I did larger tires and suspension. I went Gladiator because I read how much better it handled vs a 4 door Wrangler. We recently got a Sahara for my wife and I’m pretty impressed at the ride honestly. All that to say, the local dealer has a nice deal on a 2024 Wrangler Rubicon X that is tempting me.

[@alfa8822]

Great video! I couldn’t have put it any better myself! I went from a 2017 JK Rubicon to a 2024JL Rubicon. Now I can change things that I didn’t like what I did on my JK. Of course I bought mine from Dan Cummins.

[@Kayakcarey]

Have a 2014 JKUR since new. Have excised many of the demons, oil cooler x2, rocker arms, radiator, now running strong. The biggest draw in a JL or JT is the 8 speed transmission to keep the 3.6 in the power band, the downside is the continued mechanical warranty issues. If quality had improved along with price, I might jump, Until quality improves, I will hold onto my JKUR.

[@djuell01]

I had a 2011 with the mini van engine and went to a 2021 3.6 in 2023 and got the right steering box and happy I made the change when they didn't do a good engine change. The only way I would upgrade mine now is if I had the money for a used 392 with a SOT like I got the SOT now. Or could afford a 392 now.

[@Autobhnspd]

Keeping my 2022 paid off 392.

[@TheWanderer377]

Awesome choice, paying off my 2023 392 I got late 2022. Seeing the balance compared to the new prices has me very content with my 392, love that thing.

[@LivingTheDream-RocklanderUSA]

No 2025 upgrade here; Jeep prices are too steep. I’ll stick with my awesome 2021 JLUR. No monthly payments is nice 👍

[@DUNEATV]

I didn’t want a JL until I drove one. The 3.6L paired to the 8-speed auto in the Rubicon is amazing. Unbelievable off-road capability and bulletproof reliability. (2021 Rubicon and a 2024 Extreme Recon Rubicon)

[@GUDDAisHere]

If i shoot a bullet at the door, it would go through the door.

[@mightymikee]

I owned half dozen Jeeps since 98 and down to 4 now including a JTRD. I am partial to Jeeps to say the least. Now calling it bulletproof reliable is definitely debatable.

[@DUNEATV]

@@mightymikee I started with a 1992 Wrangler and through the 90s I had several XJ Cherokee’s. Now I have newer Jeeps and I drive them to places like Moab and Northern Arizona in the middle of nowhere. No other machine could take this kind of abuse and be reliable. Not a single Jeep has ever left me stranded anywhere. Absolutely incredible how this vehicle can take you through the roughest, terrain, imaginable, and drive you home. I would say that’s bulletproof reliability.

[@mightymikee]

@@DUNEATV My old Jeeps have never stranded me. But I literally became a mechanic owning Jeeps through exposure training. I do engine swaps and regearing. Had I started with owning Toyotas (which I also own FJ Cruiser and a 100 series), I doubt I would be as proficient as I am now. I recently installed adaptive cruise control on my JTRD and a TrailCam. I was surprised by how much configuration change was needed through Witech software wise to make them work. I worked on TIPM equipped vehicles and how fragile they are with battery and low power condition. I had to reflash the entire configuration at the BCM and TIPM. Moderns Jeeps are not like the old ones.

[@DRockDreamin]

Got my 22 Gladiator exactly how I wanted at 0% interest. Haven't seen that deal since. Prices have gone crazy even with the discounts.

[@cleveland53015]

The diesel and 392 options were the reason I jumped from JK to JL

[@film50565]

Somewhere I read that the 2025 features improved, tightened steering. If true, that alone would be a motivation to upgrade.

[@PedersensTravels]

We currently own a 2015 JK Unlimited (JKUL) named Stitch, which we use for cross-country trips and, increasingly, adventures into Canada. It's not unusual for us to find ourselves 50 miles from the nearest paved road, especially in places like Wyoming. We started overlanding before it became trendy. We're planning to buy a 2025 Jeep Gladiator (JT). With 148,000 miles on Stitch, it’s clear that it’s staying in the family-my wife has so informed me. However, I’m looking for something a bit more youthful as we continue our travels. A major draw for the JT is the anticipated twin-turbo I6 engine. Even after regearing Stitch to 4.88 (compared to 4.56) for 35-inch tires, I’m growing weary of pushing it hard up long mountain passes. On a recent trip from Wisconsin to Montana, we battled headwinds and ended up with a blown head gasket. Looking ahead, the I6's power is critical since we plan to get a Patriot camper in 2-3 years. At around 4,000 lbs, I’ll need that extra output. Unfortunately, as of now, only the 3.6L engine is available, and there are unconfirmed rumors that Stellantis might delay production on the '25s until more 2024 models are sold.

[@sellickusa]

Always rent before you buy. I did exactly that before I ordered my '23 JTM

[@philkane4390]

Great vid. When I built my 24 Sport S they wouldn't put the manual shift in it. Now they do, not happy with that. Very happy so far with my V6 auto so far. (EDIT) Totally agree,, top off is the best, never did the doors but "open" is the best.

[@GentleGiantFan]

Paid off and life time power train warranty are two reasons why I'm keeping my Gobi JKUR.

[@GoldRaven-oe4by]

Literally the only reason to get this thing was the v6/8 speed combo and with that gone what reason is there to buy it

[@mattepple6759]

I think my issue is that I love the idea of a 25 gladiator. When in reality I will gain nothing from changing from my 21 (especially since they got rid of the overland trim) I think you’re right I should just upgrade to a caribou or setup and get a 24 grille and I think I’d be satisfied with what I want from a 25.

[@brianthomas9254]

Went from 04 TJ to 24 4xe a month ago! lol It’s been great. Only minor disappointment is the base radio is awful. And someone said be careful with upgrades on 24 models. Something with the wiring. Suggestions welcome guys :)

[@brianthomas9254]

For those curious. 4xe sport s, 1 touch top, cloth interior, base radio, convenience/safety (keyless entry, home link, auto brake etc) and it was 53k plus tax. Sticker was 61k. Still way too expensive. But I wanted one 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@paulswanholm-do3un]

I love my 2016 JK and don’t plan on ever getting rid of it. If for some reason I needed a new Jeep I would have a problem. I would want a two-door Willys with the Extreme Off Road package to make it like my JK, but I would want a manual, and you can’t get a manual with that package. That sucks I don’t care if people call my Jeep a “Mall Crawler”, it’s what I love to drive. Especially on the beach.

[@ryannewazada2102]

This is a great time to purchase a 2025 Jeep Wrangler, Gladiator, and other Jeep vehicles since Stellantis sales are plummeting. Also, Jeep has numerous recalls due to electrical issues on their vehicles.

[@DJonathanHayes76]

I just got a 21 Wrangler with 2.0, so new to channel and Jeep. Now it had a steering damper replaced before I got it, so I guess I bought a DW too.

[@JasonWendling]

Still loving my '24 first-pre-final 392... Accessory mini-review: I installed a Tazer Mini JL from Z Automotive. It's got a great feature where one can set a PIN to put the Jeep in gear on startup. In Southern Ontario theft is a big problem and having a deadman device buried up in the dash is a pretty convenient additional layer of security.

[@blakemarchand6650]

You like the 2 wheel drive feature ? I love it, burnouts all day

[@AStanton1966]

Last year I picked up a new 2023 Jeep Wrangler Willys 3.6 V-6 4-dr with manual windows, locks, and transmission. Recently I went to install an aftermarket engine skid plate and discovered that the dealer removed the OEM transmission skid plate to deal with the over heating clutch recall. Of course the dealer never informed me of this. Hard to believe that in the 21st century, a manufacturer can't figure out how to make a clutch work?

[@jamesmorrowcjjames6327]

I’m having a great time with my 2023 392 that I bought brand new. There haven’t been any upgrades that I have seen since then that are worth trading up.

[@silverlover5817]

I'm planning to order the 2025 Wrangler Sport (2-door, 6-epeed manual transmission). 🚙

[@trynovar4725]

I have a 2022 Sport S with the diesel engine. As noted in the video, that year allowed me to get the features I wanted without getting additional "features". The only thing I would have changed about it was the color as I am a big fan of mojito. The only thing in the 2025 besides the color that's even interesting is the larger display. But that's not enough to make me want to lose the power and fuel economy my diesel provides. If they dropped something like the hurricane 6 into it and I could get that mojito color, I'd be all in on the newer model. But without an engine choice with better torque, and HP, I'd rather dump my money into modding my current Jeep.

[@Ken-d2z]

Remember to achieve the power numbers the factory claims with the 2.0 turbo you need PREMIUM FUEL.

[@turbojunki]

You are the only person I hear say they like the 2.0, and had good low end power. Everyone else says they had lots of problems with them and very perky power. I drove a 23 Willy’s for a weekend with the 2.0. I thought sounded like a broken sewing machine. I love my 392 but I’m considering a HighTide for my wife. I think I just trust the 3.6 more. We own 5 Jeeps, 2 2dr 2013’s, 1 2015 4dr, 2023 392, 2023 Gladiator, 66 CJ5. #notjustblackjeeps

[@merczeph79]

Maybe It was the gearing in the willys. Because with the 4.10s in my rubicon the 2.0T rips, even with the 37s! Plus I can pull 18-20mpg (hand calculated at every fill up) w/37s all over the place. The 2.0T has great mid range power, if you floored it you'd notice it doesn't rev as high before shifting like the 3.6 liter engine has to because of the superior lower/mid range torque. I love my 2.0T JLR!

[@davidbottles3035]

The only thing on the JL worth having is the 8 speed transmission. Love the one in my Grand Cherokee. Keeping the 2015 JKU Sahara.

[@TwoFeatherChannel]

I shouldn't but You should, so you can say again that you have the final, final JLUR 392 Edition.

[@DIRTROADCRED]

Hmmm lol

[@ButchB1000]

Just got a great deal on a 24 Rubicon X from Megan at Dan Cummins.

[@ahmednesbitte4906]

Hi Matt and Ryan very informative video. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@sunnyduggineni4782]

if you want to off-road and also use your vehicle for road trips - get a 4runner or a land cruiser

[@mountainpick14]

Ive never been a "Jeep Guy", until I started at the post office. Ive been running a 2009 3.8 that I simply cannot fix. However, 1994 Cherokee I purchased as a backup has become the main while the limp mode Wrangler collects dust while I pay insurance on it. Ive debated on purchasing a brand new wrangler, id do it if someone could provide a accurate comparison between the new ones and the XJ, of course these are all RHD for me lol

[@Jrbrass]

This video should be titled why would you by a Jeep now. With all the quality problems, refreshed corrosion problems, prices inflated pre-covid 40% and just the problems the company is having. Why Would Anyone Buy One Now?

[@PedersensTravels]

One not too crazy reason is, admittedly farfetched, is they may not be around in their current form to too long. If they cannot get their act squared away, I've let me wife know we may be looking at a Toyota for our next offroader. Think Jeep has issues, just look at Ford's issues. They lead all OEMs-by like 50%-in the number of recalls the last 2 years.

[@KreeH2023]

Agreed. They already have a reliability problem. Having their leadership crying the sky is falling, fighting between the brand and it's dealers, and having major labor issues (can't imaging this helps with their build quality QA issues), it doesn't give a potential buyer a good feeling. You would think most of their dirty laundry would be ironed out behind closed doors vs super public press.

[@Jay-bw3fl]

2018 rubicon msrp started at 39k 2025 rubicon starts at 43k that is a 9% increase over a 6 year period where inflation was over 20%. Stop spreading misinformation

[@Jrbrass]

@@Jay-bw3fl Ahhh, a salesman. All the Jeep fans dealing with all the issues and the CEO is getting 39 mil a year. You'd think instead of Carlos giving himself almost 50% raise, he'd fix all the problems first.

[@Jay-bw3fl]

@@Jrbrass I’m def not a salesman lol I think wranglers are overpriced and horrible to drive as I own a 2021 Willys I bought brand new but I also don’t like all the people who keep posting the lie about how much stelantis has increased prices 40+%. It’s not true

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

Stellantis has never been in a worse place

[@TxJK18]

I would but three things stopping me at this point. I want a V6 I wouldn't care if it is a manual but we all know that transmission sucks compared with the 8 speed auto. 2) Prices are ridiculously high still. 3) interest rates are high too

[@MTNorville]

If I upgrade, I'm getting a Bronco. Stellantis needs more competition for prices to come down.

[@billredding2000]

I have a 2021 Gladiator (Rubi) and no matter how much they've upgraded Wranglers they won't work for me, so it's Gladiators now and for the "foreseeable" future. As for the new Gladiators, they aren't any more capable off or on-road than mine is, so no need to "upgrade" to a new one. I'm keeping my 2021 for years to come...especially given the still-insane pricing. -- BR

[@Bayless18]

I have a 2021 JT Freedom Edition in Snazzberry. I won't upgrade unless they give me another engine option. 4 banger turbo or the Hurricane engine is what I'd consider upgrading to.

[@xtina818]

Jeep is love, jeep is life

[@sellickusa]

Will colors be enough to bump the numbers up. Also what's the deal with the 4Xe option on the '25 Gladiator

[@Kingsley-vj3ih]

All I want to know is if the Galvanic Corrosion has finally been dealt properly this time! That's the only upgrade I'm looking for lol.

[@Warped2023]

My current Jeeps - Ordered my 2023 AEV JL 370 and my 2024 392 Final Edition. 2020 Rubicon was off the lot(sold) as was my wife's 2024 Sahara and my 2023 Mojave JT (traded on the 392). With 4 2023 and 2024 Jeeps, I will not be getting one in 2025. Also have a 2023 Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve 4xe that gathers dust as it is boring.

[@Rhdz_86]

I’ll stick with my 2019. The pricing on these have become ridiculous. I mean now a Sport S cost what a Rubicon use to be. 🤯

[@kdestep]

Supposedly they worked on tuning in the suspension and smoothing out the ride also.

[@desyr_dragonzz357]

I work at a dealership as a tech but before I had gotten my job I bought a 21 Sahara, it was nice but it didn't have all the factory off-road upgrades and my previous job wasn't ideal for the payment I would have been looking at to get a rubicon, I upgraded to a 24 in January and couldn't get a Rubicon with the 2.0 as many people may know they stopped building them and I figured if I got a new jeep now I'll get all the new 2024 upgrades and still get to keep the 2.0 in the new Sahara, well I might have jumped the gun on that and after finding out the 2.0 came in every trim with the Auto transmission in 25 I may be upgrading again to finally pick my self up an extreme recon rubicon in fathom blue, but I'll be waiting till later in 2025 due to fathom being a late availability option

[@boundless-trails]

Does anyone know anything after 2018JK, other than new body style, are they bigger in size like head room, width, cargo space? They appear visually wider or am wrong?

[@garbinator09]

Hmm.🤔 Last I test drove a 2018 2dr JL Rub I fell in love. Just couldn’t commit to the new payment thing. Haven’t test drove any new jeep since. We live debt free. Two years ago, I kept building a Willys’ two dr online. $48,000 in Ca. Ended up buying used 05 TJ Rubicon. Put $30,000 into it. Yesterday for the first time I drove it 150 miles. First 70 miles I kept it at 55. I could hear my stereo playing abit. Coming home, my fat-assed belly was making rumbling sounds, wanted food for the beast in me. 75MPH on long stretches of two lane endless Texas plains roads is mind boggling, then theres side winds. At 69 I still have a headache my head feels like shit. ROAD NOISE 😢 Scary wondering death grip on the steering wheel.

[@MrBlueJK4]

Currently I have a 2020 JLU Willys Sport S, Punk'n with tow package. This is my first Jeep product. Recently the Dealer offered me 25k, (I paid 32k used for it last year.) I know that offer will be going down in the future as I've heard some are only getting 20k for the same year/options. But I'm going to drive this one until it is no longer reliable. If it turns out to be as good of a vehicle as it's been this last year for me, I may get another wrangler in the future but not for a while as I need to get some use out of this one.

[@robg1413]

I have a 2015 JKU. I'm waiting for 2025s to come out so 2024 Gladiators will drop to more reasonable prices.

[@eastcoastreviews6870]

I’ve got a 2016 Rubicon 2 door that’s essentially stock and I wouldn’t upgrade to a JL mostly due to the increased cost of the JLs and the decreased reliability due to the extra electronics in the JLs

[@fernandomartin624]

I'm not selling my ecodiesel 3rd Gen for anything. Almost 30 mpg hwy all the torque I need, solid.

[@johnanthony6141]

I just paid 47.500 for an almost fully loaded earl rubicon, 3.6. Wifey s happy. I myself will stick to the 392. 😃

[@stoutmasta]

I have seen my exact '24 JLU Rubicon for $10k less than I paid. I bought mine right as the '24's came out. So you can save a TON of money on a '24 right now. My question is what happened to the new Hurricane engine that was supposed to be in the '25?

[@chilecayenne]

I’d really like to be a first time Jeep buyer… I want something to go off road and play… I don’t want a luxury vehicle, the trouble is, Jeep is charging luxury prices for these…I mean hell, add just a bit of trim and these things can start to out price a corvette?!?! I’d love to get an older CJ or Tj…where its basics and can be worked on without hooking yo a computer…the problem is, I’m not the level of gear head that requires…. Oh well…will keep researching, saving, plotting and planning.