Putting a Pad in a Double Layer Hammock

[@blcolon]

Thanks for getting me into hammock camping. You have been a lot of help over the past couple years.

[@shugemery]

Y'elcome and thankee.

[@therevddaviddubay9070]

Yelled out “Whoo Buddy!” When I went fishing with my daughter yesterday.. She look looked at me kinda funny...but my kids do that often. Thanks for your video says help me a great deal.

[@shugemery]

I know that look!!!!

[@Kwisten050]

I got it before I got into hammocking, but my Klymit Insulated Static V works great in my double layer Blackbird. The outer edges have separate air pockets running vertically, so that it folds up around me in the hammock and stays put nicely. Great relatively affordable pad for those who can't afford an underquilt yet or want something for hammocking and ground sleeping.

[@shugemery]

I hear they are a great hammock pad.

[@JoshHerodOutdoorAdventures]

I use a ThermaRest Xtherm in my hammock all the time. Have been down into the mid teens with it. I do have an underquilt but I stopped using it. The underquilt is definitely more comfortable but I like the versatility of the pad just in case I have to go to the ground

[@shugemery]

I dread ground.

[@JoshHerodOutdoorAdventures]

shugemery me too

[@kenk4555]

I bought a double layer BB XLC to keep the mosquitoes from chewing me up and so far it’s worked great!

[@shugemery]

Whooooooo Buddy)))))

[@vsrorrer]

Heading to the woods next weekend...love my Warbonnet hammock! The noise I make at night trying to adjust the sleeping pad sounds like Big Foot eating a bowl of Captain Crunch..thanks for the video!!:)

[@shugemery]

Mmmmm....Capt'n Crunch!

[@vsrorrer]

shugemery 😂

[@BackpackerBrothers]

Shug, we've been watching you for years now. You helped us get up on the Superior Hiking Trail for our first trip and we've never looked back. We also use hammocks now because of you! Thanks so much. Also loved seeing you at the MN State Fair last summer! Was great to shake your hand and say hi!

[@shugemery]

Whooooooo Buddy))))) See ya' this Summer.

[@JustBBlunt]

Would a larger pad fit to help with getting the right angle without an SPE? Like a Klymit Static V Luxe.

[@shugemery]

I think so.

[@ola_bandola]

Avid pad user here using a non insulated thermarest neo air (i think). Works fine down to =16C/3F I’m so glad I trusted my intuition and got me a single layer hammock... well.. actually I have three single layer hammocks. Makes it possible to adjust the pad while laying on it, much easier than this. Thanks for keeping the videos interesting and fun.

[@shugemery]

UQs all the way for me!

[@Skwy-qf2dd]

Is it doable to use the sleeping pad with the under quilt in the hammock?

[@shugemery]

For sure. Done it myself to get to lower temps long ago. Seemed to work.

[@ryansheils7147]

Thanks man! Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. And I always come away better informed as well. Cheers!

[@shugemery]

Whoooooo Buddy)))))

[@Wookiemonsterfreak]

Cool, I am doing swell with my pad right inside my sleeping bag.that allows me to adjust my angle easily. My silk liner I slip into then into my bag sort helps that whole senecio and separates me from the pad that’s in the bag. The liner has a pillow box too, so it’s real easy to fashion a pillow with a sweater or pop a camp pillow in there and everything stays in place.

[@shugemery]

Great to hear what is working for you. Whoooooo Buddy)))))

[@toddevans4667]

Nice little rig up with the slip on with the pad, was thinkin kinda same thing with a static v pad & sleeping bag cover until a underquilt. & trying to use all your great vids in switching from tent to a hammock this year but getting your same lovely weather here in michigan!

[@shugemery]

I am UQ all the way! Enjoy the hammock quest.

[@Myn6211]

Ah Hah! Now I know whom to blame for the snowstorm headed my way. Not nice Shug, nope, not nice at all. 😀 Another great video. You always pass on such great info. 👍

[@shugemery]

I'm trying to get it to go somewhere...it won't.

[@felixknight1903]

Hey Shug! I've been watching (and been subscribed) your videos for more than 3 years, you deserve so many more subscribers than you have right now. Love it! (You were also one of the main reasons that got me into hammock camping! Now I do it all the time!)

[@shugemery]

Thankee and Whoooooo Buddy))))

[@calvinmientke3539]

I'm getting the double layer too but snow and blow. 11 inches yesterday, 40-50 mph gusts, 15 inches on the way in central Wis, Ya better hunker down for a while!

[@shugemery]

Hunkered!

[@jamesgraham828]

Having options in hammocks based on your trips is a good thing. I have single and double layer hammocks for versatility. I do like my doubles for bug protection during the warm seasons.

[@shugemery]

Whoooooo Buddy))))))

[@GermanBadGuy]

Is the pad holding better in place with a double layer? Or in that aspect no difference to a single layer? Thanks!

[@shugemery]

It does but I prefer just laying on the pad if and when I would ever use a pad again. (I am an under quilt guy) Takes getting in and out a couple time to adjust and re=adjust the pad in a double layer to get the right spot but does hold it well once set.

[@SupadaiduS]

Hi Shug! Sometimes I put the pad directly into the sleeping bag, i never had problems with moisture. Have a great trip!

[@shugemery]

That'll do the trick.

[@feastinthewild]

Great video. I just stumbled on this channel. I have only slept in a hammock for a week in my life. It is one of those things that I have dreamt about it for such a long time. Being from Iceland finding a tree in the backcountry is a mission on its own. Now as I am about to travel around Europe in a van with my girlfriend I think that I will get one. I will use your channel as a guideline to find everything I need to know about hammocks.

[@shugemery]

Love to go there someday!

[@vagabond-yj8pn]

Winter, The gift that keeps on giving. Cmon we’re over it already!

[@shugemery]

I tiring gift at this point!

[@timellender3505]

Snug, your SPE links suggest the pad sleeve and pad routinely be placed directly in the hammock and users sleep directly on top. Some comments suggest moisture issues with this direct setup. Have you tried this direct option aka single layer only hammock? Thoughts?

[@shugemery]

Always a chance of some condensation with pads. I layed directly on my SPE...one reason I went underquilt and never looked back. But it varies from person to person.

[@BobPreis]

Ridgeline had a couple wraps around the carabiner. Was that to shorten it for the indoor hang?

[@shugemery]

Nope but you can see why it is there at 10:22 here....kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmatk56iq6ljsMk

[@richardiorio4112]

Thanks Shug! You got me thinking about doing a DIY 1/4 inch CCF Pad. I found a 40 x 80 sheet on Mountain Laurel Designs for about $60. I think I can trim it down and still cover those cold spots on the elbows and knees. If my calculations are correct for the weight and dims I think I can get it to 9.4 oz. I am hoping it'll be good down to 50ish.

[@shugemery]

Whooooo Buddy))))

[@kazroth886]

So many comments so little time, Thank you Sir. From Vancouver Canada

[@shugemery]

Truth!

[@Randall974]

I have an ENO sub 7, which is a little small for some but works ok for me. If it's a little cool I put my Thermarest Prolite 3 inside it, uninflated, or underinflated, so it doesn't pop out of the hammock. If it's colder I fold my poncho in half and put my inflated Thermarest inside it and hang it under my hammock so it's giving me some insulation. It's a little fiddly, but it works. If the weather is bad or there aren't any trees I pitch my tarp and sleep on the ground.

[@devonator95]

Is the double layer blackbird XLC more comfortable for you than the single layer blackbird XLC? Still not sure which one to get I have a double layer hammock now but I was wanting your thoughts on the single layer blackbird XLC. Thank you Shug!

[@shugemery]

I am finding the double very comfortable. More than my single layer.

[@TheSemtexCow]

Thanks Shug, I feel some diy hammock mods coming on. Keep that sector clear 👍

[@shugemery]

Whooooo Buddy))))

[@57koop]

Good to see you Shug! As always enjoyed the video!

[@shugemery]

Thanks.

[@Johntburke72]

Hey shug, hope all is well. I just finished a week camping trip in mt airy Nc with the Boy Scouts with my kids. I tooled my war bonnet xlc blackbird. I bought a sea to summit pad for comfort and as a underquilt. I kept trying to get it in a comfortable position every night. It was only 20” wide which I think was a problem. Does any wide pads stick out in mind that you think would be better? I’ve been looking at a klymit insulated attic pad that is 30” wide?

[@Johntburke72]

Insulated Static V Luxe Sleeping Pad

[@shugemery]

This one oughta do the job......www.thewarmingstore.com/klymit-insulated-hammock-v-sleeping-pad-red-char-black.html

[@DaMadMardigan]

Hey Shug, I have a ENO Double nest, I can’t get comfortable in it, it wants to mummy me. I’m close to getting that War Bonnet XLC, but the price is holding me back. Are they worth it vs this ENO?

[@shugemery]

Maybe add a ridgeline to your eno. Hang your hammock suspension close to a 30% angle. That may help. Look at a netless Dutchwaregear hammock....dutchwaregear.com/product/11ft-netless/#fabric-layer-option-1

[@scoutingfreegermany]

Interesting concept, never heard about the SPE! Thanks for sharing, Cheers, Marc

[@shugemery]

Y'elcome.

[@Roger-ws8rj]

So shug, I live in south Florida, the majority of my camping is going to be in summer conditions, but I plan to go camping up north at least once a year (I prefer the cold 🥶). And underquilts are expensive, I don't want to buy 2 of them, my question is, how well will mixing a pad, and an underquilt work? And is the top quilt as important?

[@shugemery]

It works! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWO1gXZ-pdFrpNk Top quilt a bit less important but nice to have them match in real cold temps.

[@freethinker5225]

This is why I like synthetic sleeping bags...they don't compress as much so your sides stay better insulated although I still use a closed cell foam pad for the bottom and I'm going to be picking up an underquilt...I also have the same hammock. Do you have any good recommendations for under quilts. The wooki from warbonnet doesn't look like it's going to cover my sides very well

[@shugemery]

Check Hammock Gear, Jacksrbetter, Loco Libre, Dutchware Gear, UGQ. They all make real good under quilts. And look at Superior Gear Hammocks with built in under quilt. That is my new go-to.

[@freethinker5225]

@shugemery darn I should've looked around more haha I'll have to get that one for my girlfriend. She's adopting my old eno set up...I've gotta piece my new hammock together...expensive but still better than a tent

[@shugemery]

@@freethinker5225 You could be doing way worse things with your "mad money!"

[@freethinker5225]

@shugemery been there, done that...life's a trip...now I sleep outside in my spare time 🤣

[@lordfubar1]

I am researching a better hammock than my simple single layer one. I use a pad even during the summer in Florida as I think the mosquitos down here seem to have powered mouthparts. The pad might play nice for one night, but rarely two nights in a row. I think the dual layer hammock will solve that problem.

[@shugemery]

Have you seen these pads?...klymit.gathroutdoors.com/products/insulated-hammock-v-sleeping-pad?title=default+title

[@CampfireTalk]

wooooobuddy, that's a good April snow shower

[@shugemery]

Snow is getting up my craw!!!!!

[@MrHyperdriver]

Would love to hear/see your tips and tricks to packing up camp in foul weather. What special things do you do to make sure your gear lasts for years?

[@shugemery]

I buy good gear that lasts. Packing in foul weather is all done under the tarp.

[@shugemery]

Then I put on rain gear, add pack cover and take down tarp and get on the trail.

[@cgriggsiv]

Awesome video thanks for your help with the pads in the hammocking

[@shugemery]

Y'elcome and Whooooo Buddy))))

[@throwbacgurl]

I used a 30 in pad in mine and it was really comfortable. I brought the wrong sleeping bag but other than that my first night in the bb was nice.

[@shugemery]

Good and wide!

[@Akkfbdui384hj]

Hey great video! Question: How do you figure the r-value to temp rating conversion? (You said the r-value 3.7 would equate to about 20-25degrees on the ground)

[@shugemery]

Usually can find that info on the pad when you buy them. Insulation and R-ValueEven in summer, insulation is important to a good night’s sleep because you lose body heat to the ground. To counteract this, most air and self-inflating pads now have a layer of synthetic insulation inside. A few pads offer down insulation and tend to be geared toward sleeping in very cold environments.A sleeping pad's R-value measures its capacity to resist (hence the "R") heat flow. The higher a pad’s R-value, the better you can expect it to insulate you from cold surfaces. The R-values shown on REI.com product pages are provided by the manufacturers and range from 1.0 (minimally insulated) on up to values of 11.0 or more (very well insulated).Most manufacturers give either an R-value or temperature range to help you gauge how much insulation the pad provides. Thicker pads generally offer higher R-values and the average summer camping pad should be around 3 or higher. Campers who sleep cold, often women, may want to choose a pad with an R-value of at least 4. Some women-specific pads put more insulation in the core and feet area where women lose heat fastest. Note that unlike with sleeping bags, choosing a higher warmth rating in a sleeping pad won’t lead to overheating.

[@jimsteele7108]

Yeah Shug, what's up with the weather?! I just heard highway 52 has been closed just north of Rochester. I am seriously considering hanging the Hennessy. I got me a super shelter I want to test out!

[@shugemery]

You need to get out there!

[@rudyo8409]

Whats your thoughts on using a military type wool blanket for a under quilt or sleeping pad ? Please advise" : ) Thank you hammock master"

[@shugemery]

I have never used one. They do work so I have heard but must be hung properly. Bet there is a video on you tube if you search.

[@shugemery]

....kzbin.info?search_query=woll+blanket+as+underquilt

[@richardkappes6112]

Good timing Shug just bought my first Hammock for camping. One question how cold I go something like have?

[@shugemery]

It ain't the hammock that keeps you warm but the insulation.

[@ricardosanz3591]

I'm looking for a two-layer hammock but I can't find I am looking for a fabric that does not stretch (like the ENO - Eagles Nest Outfitters Double Nest) which you can recommend or give me an idea where to look for it thanks Nestor

[@shugemery]

Here are some... www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/hammocks/ dutchwaregear.com/product/chameleon-hammock/#chameleon-body Try Hexon or ripstop

[@ricardosanz3591]

@@shugemery thank you I'm big fan ,I enjoy the videos and I always learn something from them thank you very much

[@ricardosanz3591]

@@shugemery thanks

[@dutchyfresh1]

Hey Shug, I feel you weather pains. Michigan has just been brutal. Deer fight!!!

[@shugemery]

I got a bad case of tired-shovel-itus.

[@danwolf8893]

Wow... Is that an Epiphone mandobird 8 string in the back ground?

[@shugemery]

It is a likeness of it. Don't play it much as I prefer acoustic.

[@danwolf8893]

@@shugemery Thanks for your reply. I was just wondering as I understand they are kind of rare. So with that I will give you a great big Wooo Buddy from Florida and let you know how much I love your channel and thank you for all of your knowledge you have passed on to me... I feel I owe you a lot. Take care and God bless.

[@cavtj1]

So Shug, I guess that larger pad would be your Maxi Pad? : ) Just curious Shug, is there any condensation issues with the pads?

[@shugemery]

There sure can be. I've had a little with some pads. Mainly closed cell foam pads.

[@tonyb865]

Man, I love your style.

[@adventuresphere7036]

Hi, new subscriber here. Do you find a hammock helping or hurting your back vs. sleeping on the ground? Had failed back surgery and the ground is too hard, but nervous a hammock might aggravate my back as well. Snowing here in the north metro for I think I can safely say 24 hours straight. All but anoka Hennepin schools were closed today, so the kids will have to reschedule the ACT testing. Love your vids! 💗

[@shugemery]

Restored my back but I have never had surgery so can't speak to what it may or may not do for you. Try a hammock in small doses.

[@Sebastopolmark]

That thar is a mighty fine bit of splainin!

[@shugemery]

May have even over'splained....

[@ChristohperReynolds]

Shug! Can you review some of the Outdoor Vitals hammock gear. Specifically the mummy pod

[@shugemery]

I don't own one. But I use my own type pod system. did try their Aerie: From over a year ago I slept out in it last week as a test. Did not film, just getting to know it. Got down to 23ºF. They sent me the 20º Aerie. Set it up as a UQ and a pod to see how it hung. As a pod it is pretty good...you can get on an angle in the hammock. I'm 6' and was ok. As in most pods there is a gap up by the head over left shoulder for me. But slip a TQ inside and you could for sure get down to some colder temps. As a UQ you have to set it up just right. I stretched my suspension tightly and hooked it up by cinch buckles on hammock suspension to get it to stretch out and get it to come up right against my buttocks and back. Slept in a partial pod arrangement. Set up like pod but unzipped to knees. Seemed to work best. Kept the bottom up against me that way. I crawled in around 10PM and slept warm until about 4:30 AM. Started to get a bit cold on the buttocks then. As it functions in a bag, pod and UQ and blanket so the 18 ounces of down gets distributed on top, sides and bottom. Less on the bottom as a normal 20º UQ. The beauty of the Aerie is that a person can use it an a bag, pod, UQ or top blanket. Zippers are a bit sticky...you have to be vigilant in holding back the inner zip tape and top flap. I hate zippers! Seems to be baffled and not sewn through. All in all a fairly good piece of gear for all that it does. If looking for JUST a UQ then I don't think this is it. But if needed a piece of gear that is Multi Function then for the price it is pretty good. Made in China.

[@eodnavigator]

Thanks a lot, Shug!

[@shugemery]

Y'elcome.

[@GrimesMusic]

can you only use the Wookie under quilt with the blackbird

[@shugemery]

You could get it to fit other hammocks but takes a bit of adjustment.

[@Pygar2]

Shug, when you figure out a way to hang a hammock between two snow drifts, be sure and let us know! Winter is like Judge Roy Bean, just hanging on and on!

[@shugemery]

Git on Winter....git!

[@jameshildebrand3442]

Snappy ending master shug ,thanks for the tips cheers

[@shugemery]

Whooooo Buddy))))

[@rafedavis935]

Thanks, Shug, for another great video. Nope, too much work. I'll stick to my underquilt.

[@shugemery]

Me too!

[@wadepatton2433]

Here's a funny about "double hammocks". When I decided to try out this hammock thing again (first was Mayan netting several years back), I hunted around and found a "cheap knock off" of the ENO type. So cheap and I was so impressed that I bought a second one. NOW, when I need an underquilt or pad underneath, I simply hang the pair together and sandwich in a pad or sleeping bag. Whoo Buddy it Works! (jest fine). UCWIDT?

[@shugemery]

Dat'll doo.....

[@aephix73]

Another Shug video, and that's always good. Are there any cheaper non-down underquilts that are of decent quality? I know you add weight, but down is pretty expensive. Thank for another vid. All the best to you and your family.

[@shugemery]

Here ....www.arrowhead-equipment.com/store/c3/KAQ_Synthetic_Quilts.html or search on Amazon. Snugpak or some other brands.

[@zestyvibrat]

Hey! Today is the 14th & your video came out on the 14th! Wow that was fast, love it. Love your vids over the years. Ya think maybe you can do one of your zip line camera shots sometime soon? It's been a hell of a long time and we all love em! Peace out Shug!

[@shugemery]

I got this....kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoXcfJ-kibN_jrs

[@zestyvibrat]

shugemery lol Thanks!

[@onkelsort5381]

Hi Shug! Any chance of you coming across the Maple King sometime soon? I wonder what that guy has been up to!

[@shugemery]

One never knows........

[@kublai7123]

Love you Shug, you need to stop clowning around and do this full time!

[@shugemery]

Less typing in my real job!

[@whitecompany18]

Makes perfect sense, thankee shug.

[@shugemery]

Yessir. Some need to actually see it done.

[@ArktikosAdventures]

Oh! Shugity shug shug shug. You're the best... Thanks for all you do... Cheers from Norway...again... Whoooooo buddy!!!

[@shugemery]

T'anks.

[@pamelagonzalez9567]

Oh that's nice.. I been looking at hammocks I need a double one so that looks great!

[@shugemery]

It is!

[@eraproductions9923]

i thought of using the wings of the klymit mat and folding with the wings under sometimes ..that would be more insulated wouldn't it?

[@eraproductions9923]

i'm not plugging them or anything i just thought that would be a good idea oh also and also i thought of usinging them silver pikernick blanckets under that and a undergquilt you know the one that goe's under the hammock? yeh themand then get in my sleeping bag and then put a blanket on ..that will work won't it?

[@eraproductions9923]

he's not listerning either hello! are you in there shug? he;s not listening? earth calling shug hello ..he's probably still asleep it's 7 am here SHUG!

[@eraproductions9923]

right well i'll do that then ..get up in your own time then lol #hammock joke

[@eraproductions9923]

that's A.M time shug

[@eraproductions9923]

oh btw i really think your a really super awesome nice guy

[@steelhuskers1794]

What other hammock is double layered besides warbonnet ??

[@shugemery]

Many of the popular hammocks are offered in single or double layer.

[@steelhuskers1794]

nick sweeney thanks for the response. Will definitely check them out

[@jameshildebrand3442]

Mine is tenth wonder , pad stays put even with out a zipper cheers

[@davidlazarus67]

Steelhuskers 1 Many custom hammocks can be bought in double layer versions.

[@toddevans4667]

With JJ, kid dynomite lol , To you as well ! & you have to see movie shakes the clown if ya haven't seen & have time in between hanging around!

[@gingerhansen1902]

I was sent by Nick Sweeney but Subscribed for the juggling! 😉

[@shugemery]

Whooooo Ginger. Nick told me you were coming......kzbin.info/aero/PL80181D450579ED04

[@gingerhansen1902]

shugemery, 🤹 Thanks! I'm a beginner and can't wait to get out!! Will this winter ever end?

[@shugemery]

It will never end.

[@gingerhansen1902]

shugemery ...sure seems like it. 😭 I will be watching videos and try keep my hopes up 👍

[@dennisley3553]

Its funny... Earlier, as the snow was falling, I was wondering if you were out and about, shooting a video. So, over in South Minneapolis, we had a good 2 feet of snow in the driveway. Whether it was a straight fall, or if the blowing wind had something to do with the depth, I don’t know. All I know is that it was tough shoveling.

[@shugemery]

I got a lot to shovel today. After I answer comments.

[@johndesanto5953]

Hammock Bliss makes a hammock - Skybed - which has a built-in sleeve for holding your pad in place and at a 30-degree angle for a flat lie. No messing around with trying to guess the proper spot like in a double layer hammock or having your pad slip around like in the single layer hammocks.

[@shugemery]

I've seen those. Nice for pad users for sure.

[@johndesanto5953]

Yeah, Shug, I have had my Skybed for about 7 years now. This past weekend, I was out hanging in New York's Harriman State Park and watching four other hangers struggling to get their pads to stay in place. (It got down to about 34 degrees Saturday night so pads were necessary.) It amazes me that American hammock manufacturers haven't stolen this idea yet. Because, you know, stealing ideas from other companies is what they do best. Hammock Bliss must have some pretty good lawyers, methinks.

[@EatCarbs]

Great information. Thanks for the video

[@shugemery]

Y'elcome.

[@douglass69]

Wooo, thinking about you here in my shorts in AZ.

[@Pygar2]

What would Shug be doing in... uh, never mind, I don't want to know...

[@douglass69]

Just mean I’m wearing hiking shorts...you perverts.

[@Pygar2]

[@shugemery]

Warmth. Shorts. Red skies. C'mon.

[@tombrown3449]

Love your videos, Shug. I just got a snugpak cocoon. Have you ever used something like it? I don't remember seeing it on your channel. I am in NC, near Hickery. How's he doing, anyway? Miss the Maple King.

[@shugemery]

I do not have a Snugpak. Some folks seem to like the price! Hickery is good.

[@brianhetrick1301]

Shugedy shug Shug-arific!

[@toddevans4667]

Thankyou Sir! & gonna be goin with the Go! Outfitters 2.0 set up if ya havent checked them out yet there the Mr. hammock Guru!

[@shugemery]

Good times!

[@markparks3600]

What I want to know is where can I get some fancy pants like you have! Great video 👍👍

[@shugemery]

At the Fancy Pants Store of course.

[@paulhughes6764]

You are a super star that is what you are 😎

[@shugemery]

I am a nebulous.

[@cameronalexander359]

He's back!!!

[@shugemery]

Whooooo Buddy))))

[@ssiewnad]

Nice job!

[@shugemery]

Thankee Dan

[@bowlinggreenoil]

Could there be a better video of why underquilts are so much easier/ better!? Thanks.

[@shugemery]

Truth.

[@jamesedwards1588]

Thanks

[@shugemery]

Y'elcome.

[@LenserX]

Do you have a juggling/performing channel too? Love to see you in action.

[@shugemery]

I have a playlist....kzbin.info/aero/PL80181D450579ED04

[@whitewalker9249]

Hey Shug. Check out the klymit hammock v pad.

[@shugemery]

I've seen them. Look nice. But I use underquilts way more than pads.

[@whitewalker9249]

I would go under quilt but I couldn’t find one that worked with my Hennessy asym. Plus I have to pitch on ground a bit due to my area so this is really good for my uses.

[@shugemery]

This is made for a Hennessy....www.jacksrbetter.com/shop/the-nest/

[@joshuaarvidson1871]

Whoooo Buddy!

[@shugemery]

And to you!....Whooooo Buddy))))

[@Ryker2608]

Would be nice if that double layer fabric had a zipper so you could fully enclose the pad or just zip it up if you weren't using it

[@shugemery]

I truly don't think it is needed but one could always add one with some DIY sewing skills.

Long time no see.

[@shugemery]

Has it been that long?

[@MrClean417]

Spent many a 20 degree night on a pad, gets cold on the edges so I stay away from there.

[@shugemery]

Wide pad!

[@richardkappes6112]

Sorry my bad writing. I meant to say with a pad how cold could go with a pad.

[@shugemery]

All pads have different r-values so with something like an Exped 9 you could go below 0ºF I suppose.

[@richardkappes6112]

shugemery thanks Shug I just make sure as our winter is not letting go here in NY. Talk here is for some,snow again happy hiking!

[@ola_bandola]

I’ve used an inflatable non=insulated thermarest down to 3F, only my nose got cold

[@richardkappes6112]

Ola Andersson the reason I had asked was I am go out test my set up for the first time and this has been year of never ending winter in the Northeast. I am just worried about it slightly

[@matt7621]

instagram.com/p/BhjyTahlJDO/?taken-by=yourflyisdown We have the same weather in Anoka and I gave it a go in my hammock with my winter setup by setting up my tarp and wrapping the edges around to create door flaps. Check it out at the link above! Snug as a bug.

[@shugemery]

Whoooooo Buddy))))

[@yveskc1]

Q: is it possible to coitus in a hammock? : )

[@shugemery]

Anything is possible.....kzbin.info/www/bejne/noezdHp7m92kp9U

[@ceesmith]

1st? Ever?

[@shugemery]

You are!

[@ceesmith]

Woo Buddy! You made my night and my day. Keep on trucking shugga de shug :)

[@jimstafford3694]

it's a maxi pad for a giant woman