SHUNT MOD DISASTER!

[@maximumchargeEV]

Good job on pushing yourself and trying something new. If youre not making mistakes, youre not really trying. Looks like the shunt mod worked! Welcome to being initiated.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

ha ha ha......Thank you my Friend! You know who I thought of TailHappyTV with the change incident...... Yes it worked and I did not damage anything. I still don't recommend. What a mess it was in that garage...🤦‍♂

[@JamesRicci-nw2im]

Bruce, I'm giving you a virtual hug! Unexpected drama had me worried for you! Sorry for your troubles, but you did great! Spilled a little milk is all.. What kind of speed improvement did you get? Cheers!

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Ha ha ha...Thank you my Friend! Thank you for the kind words! Now that time has passed...the "pain" and aggravation have left me. YES...I spilled almost the whole gallon...what a mess...and when you have everything in "labeled" containers trying to organize is harder than the first time....ha ha ha. I gained about 1 sec of quickness on off the line times...maybe 1 or 2 mph on top speed. The most noticeable improvement...off the line torque. BUT it did make my display act quirky at high speeds...the speed will flip back and forth...for example....once you go over 45 mph...the speedo will flip 46/47/48 and when I go down hills...it will flip 53/54/55 back and forth..back and forth.... Not sure why

[@oldmanebikes8392]

Bruce you needed to hold that solder iron on the copper long so it would have sucked the solder into the copper you didn't just want to ball the solder up because it may come loose and fall into other stuff. You definitely didn't hold the iron on long enough to mend the copper to the solder. Need the solder to melt into it and turn shiny.

[@140theguy]

And you must use very high-quality solder or it will melt when your controller gets hot. Cheap solder doesn't stick very well in the first place. Thanks for the show. 👍

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Thank you! Good to know....I would say for next time....but no more next time. This winter I may just remove that controller and put the controller on so I can have working blinkers. A "doh" blinker video coming tomorrow. I am not a mechanic.... Appreciated!

[@WyomingRider]

Glad you were able to keep it from crashing into the car.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

So Lucky...that bike has power and was just plowing across the floor and knocked those shelves down like a linebacker....doh!

[@StayConnectedEV]

I never mess with my electronics even on bikes I get for free. My biggest worries are that bike ignites for some insane reason when I'm sleeping and the bike is in my house.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

That is probably smart....that would make for a good video...but 100% not worth it. Make sure you have working smoke detectors and a PLAN to get everyone out of the home!!

[@MickyBee73]

A shunt mod won't cause a house fire, over charging a battery on the other hand maybe would 😅👍

[@StayConnectedEV]

@@MickyBee73 totally understand

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@MickyBee73 ...truth. That is a good point....that is when most fires happen....

[@MickyBee73]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC never charge immediately after riding, waiting at least 25-30 minutes, and shut-off straight after charging, although my charger once finished stops outputting charge to the battery so there's zero risk of over charging the battery 👍 although i once saw something Alex (Maximum Charge) briefly said about leaving the charger going a bit longer after fully charged to balance the cells better, my charge does it all automatically as I'd suspect most peoples chargers also do the same... I've never heard of leaving it charging after fully done - to better balance the cells, it was news to me, would be impossible to do with my charger. Also, I NeVeR fast charge my battery, I'll wait as long as it takes to charge it slowly.

[@ridealongwithritchie]

Sorry for the debacle! Glad it didn't run over you or your Subie.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Thank you my Friend! I learned some lessons.... That was so close to smashing the driver side door....

[@GarysE-BikeAdventures]

I actually have a soldering iron that I got from a friend that works for a company that does military electronics and they have to replace them often under their contract and they’re very expensive so they get hot extremely fast works very good.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Skills.....

[@blown9646]

Nice lesson, and glad it wasn't worse! Yeah kick the sugar and booze, you'll be feeling much better

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Thank you my friend! Truth....and it could have been much worse. I was making this video and the Riser video all at the same time. Making different clips for editing. Rushing to get done because the next day Gary (@GarysE-BikeAdventures) and I were going for a ride and it was late in the day. Rushing was the cause.....lesson learned. Don't rush and don't do shunt mods.... :)

[@CindyStickline]

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[@StayConnectedEV]

Im actually nervous watching you do what you do

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

ha ha ha....you can live dangerously vicariously through me.... ha ha ha.... Thank you!

[@StayConnectedEV]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC you surely live dangerously with Betty, lol

[@Nomadicebikingadventures]

Interesting….You should have been a surgeon 😂😂😂

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Ha ha ha.....the only smart thing I did was add the metal plate to block me from damaging any parts on the controller. AND--thankfully my patient did not die and is stronger than before the surgery. :) Thank you my Friend.

[@ridealongwithritchie]

The key to NOT having disasters is to keep your camera rolling. Prime example..... I've had 3 wrecks and have none of them on camera. I'm convinced that if I had my camera going I wouldn't have wrecked. Sh*t only happens when the camera is off. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it :)

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Ha ha ha....I agree! 3 wrecks...you better be careful. The older we get the less "bounce" we have. :) Thank you for Watching and Sharing my Friend!!🙏

[@WyomingRider]

That would have been a viral video lol.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

RIGHT........after it happened I looked at the camera and I realized I had turned it off.......

[@GarysE-BikeAdventures]

He definitely looked upset, But guys I can contest that Bruce’s bike runs out fine. I drove it the next day.❤

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Thank you my Friend. 🙏

[@papap.8006]

👍

[@WyomingRider]

I haven't shunt modded mine. After seeing Alex do it and now you too. Just doesn't seem like the gain is enough to justify it.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

NO....the gain is NOT worth it....don't do it....

[@papap.8006]

I hope you are ok. But I am like you I produce clots so I have been on blood thinners since 2001. Factor 5 blood disorder. 1 clot in left leg 2001 then blood clot in heart 2017 then blood clot in Nov 2023 in heart. Quit smoking lost 125 lb current weight 242 and my Goat pulls me at 46 gps tested out of box. Be safe and do what Dr says. Your friend Still have not got app set.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

I hope you are OK. I am over the "blood clot hump" and the small clots have broken up...the big clot has not but it has not moved. I will be on Xarelto forever...... Great job with your health improvements. I love it your speed! I am only getting a little more with the shunt.... NOW the App---1. Make sure the Bluetooth is turned on in the display settings. 2. Download the App and Create an account and password. 3. Turn the bike on. 4. Turn the App on. They should find each other and then you can "bind" your bike to the app. You can name your bike and you can add a photo. Let me know how you make out with that. I think you have to give the app "access" to stuff on your phone. AND THANK YOU!!

[@papap.8006]

I am going to try it.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@papap.8006 ...let me know. I am going out to appointments. You can email me if you want.....

[@papap.8006]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC Bruce I have it on my phone and I have registered and I must be doing something wrong after that.

[@papap.8006]

I will work on it and get back with you. You got me this far. 👍 thx friend.

[@VEGITAS4]

I’m just glad it didn’t blow up like in the cartoons

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

😅🤣😂 Me too....and it has not blown up yet...I got about 50 miles on it since the Shunt Mod.....bike is 100% fine even with my "Jumbo" ugly solder job... ha ha ha... Thank you my Friend!

[@VEGITAS4]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC would it be safe to run with one battery though?

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@VEGITAS4 ...yes. What I did only effects the controller output. The worst case scenario was me adding the copper and too much solder and it causing the controller to create too much amperage and "kill it"--possibly kill the motor.

[@tobebike]

You’re a ModMan

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

ha ha ha.....I am something....probably would get better with practice. I should not have rushed.....

[@iscootct]

😥😥😥Just create content that you enjoy.

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

100%.....I love making content to help people....that is probably my biggest joy. BUT that day....it was hot and I was rushing...learned a few lessons. BUT you are right....if it turns into "work" you got a problem. Thank you my Friend! I appreciate your advice!!

[@MickyBee73]

Im afraid you waaaay over did it mate, you put far too much copper wire & solder on, you only need to really squeeze the shunts gently together and then solder a thin smooth line all the way across the top of the shunt bars... Shunt-modding is a job that needs to be done very carefully, and to not go too crazy adding far too much wire / solder. Seems its worked as your gettimg much improved acceleration from it, just keep an eye on it and dont push it too hard for too long up an overly long hill... But it should be ok, it seemed to work. You could always carefull heat up the solder and wiring and gently remove it, it may have been a better idea to note the specif model of your controller and then watched you tube vids of people doimg the mod on this brand of controller... Well, im at the 17 minute mark, to un-void your warranty simply buy the exact same controller and switch it out, problem solved - what they dont know wont affect them and you will still be in warranty. 47 mph and a 1 secong improved acceleration is a success. And 20 pounds is a lot of extra weight Bruce lol 😅... Ive never had anything but positive results from shunt modding, each to their own.. 👍 I guess its not for the worriers is shunt-modding 😅

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Ha ha ha....I know...when I was done...I looked at it....and said to myself..."you may kill your controller and motor...." 😅🤣😂 I threw caution to the wind. I have ridden the bike about 50 miles now....and did about 30 miles of mostly high speed and steep hill riding (video coming...it is my "Rehab of the Rich and Famous" video....no issues. So....my shunt mod is safe but the attorney in me will not allow me to recommend. 😁

[@MickyBee73]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC I should've known 😅👍

[@MickyBee73]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC I over did mine too first time, did 400 miles trouble free and then took off some solder and made it better ,& Less likely to pop😅

[@MickyBee73]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC I'm just going out now on a ride using a 30+1a old controller I've just been beefing up the solder "traces' at the back of the circuit board on...just swapped it out from my 35a controller to give it a try to see if it improves the torque power a bit...I doubt it will though, but I like to experiment all the time with my build... I'm just a big kid really 😁 P.s - it worked, happy days 👍

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@MickyBee73 ...that is good to know....but don't tell me anymore.... I like to live like an Ostrich. ha ha ha

[@GarysE-BikeAdventures]

Bruce, do you think I should do the shunt mod? 😂❤

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Ha ha ha...you have great skills. For you...no problem...for people like me....NO! If I was smart...I would have saved that project for you to do for me!! 😁😅🤣😂

[@adamklein9030]

What's that rear rack that you're using?

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@adamklein9030 ...young electric mate..click on the link. Use my code save some money. I have several hundred miles of bike transport..love the rack..they made it better!

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@adamklein9030 ...

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

Did you mean on the bike? If so....it is a GOAT POWER Rack and the basket is from Amazon...Raymace ...but there are several brands that are all the same. The Raymace is $59.99

[@brucethomas3929]

I may have missed it but what was your purpose of doing the shunt mod?

[@MickyBee73]

It improves performance, much sharper acceleration - and a tad more top speed for some people... If done correctly it works, Ive done it to a lot of controllers for myself & others and never had any problems... It's easy to do. 👍

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

That is a great question....I should have told everyone because not everyone knows what a "Shunt Mod" is......it is to make the bike quicker off the line and faster over all. It makes the controller work harder....like turning a 50 amp controller into 50+ amp controller. I was so frustrated....I never tested the final product and never will with regard to amp increase. It is a little torquier and maybe a little faster....but I am thinking the real benefit was off the line quickness. I will NEVER do it again........

[@IMBruceECLECTIC]

@@MickyBee73 ....thanks Mate. It was hard for this noob to do. Won't do it again...not worth the effort and it voids your warranty. For me...it was a combination trying to make a video that could help people make an informed decision of whether they want to take the risk and some more speed. Not enough speed came from it for me.

[@MickyBee73]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC it's not primarily for speed, more voltage equals more speed, more amps in the controller equals more torque... But the shunt mod just mainly sharpens up the acceleration, and some people may get 1/2 mph more. I've mastered the art of doing it, but when I first did it, well I did it in increments, by adding a small thin amount of solder, testing, adding a little more, more testing...etc etc...until I had it feeling just right overall. It's always best to watch KZbin vids specifically for your model of controller, copper wire does help but it's usually fine when just adding the solder, the key is to get it smoothly across the shunts and gently down either side also - that's what I've found from doing it on my own e-build and also doing it for others E-bike controllers... Not had any problems this far with Any of the mods I've done for myself, or for others... I just think you went a little crazy with it 😅👍

[@MickyBee73]

@@IMBruceECLECTIC ok mate, well, it should be ok, just keep your eye on the temp of the controller when pushing it hard for prolonged periods up long and steep hills, so it doesn't overheat and blow, but it should be fine...