Sicario: Day Of The Soldado | "Killing Kings Doesn't Start Wars. It Ends Them."

[@6degreefloat]

The fact that they're all talking about specific things, yet not saying anything specific. A great scene ...

[@SamFisher007]

Reminds me of the mission briefing in Apocalypse Now. "Terminate the Colonel's command... with extreme prejudice."

[@r0bn0xi0us77]

Plausible deniability

[@davidcoleman1861]

Absolutely!

[@ariesballesteros5881]

It means you're dumb

[@joemckim1183]

@@r0bn0xi0us77 They don't need to know how you crack the egg, just as long as you can make the omelet.

[@Balt9mm]

The weight of the conversation in that room is HEAVY

[@moegreene7940]

Not to them.

[@ctilson176]

Hell yeah it is!

[@ctilson176]

Hell yeah it is!

[@josephthibodaux6033]

Big facts

[@ericantone8709]

The Military Industrial Complex at work

[@StevenRedden]

We need the 3rd installment of this series

[@6degreefloat]

... it's coming ...

[@alekssalkinrkc]

Sicario: Capos is (allegedly) already under way.

[@codetalker3135]

It’s coming with the 3 actors from the 1st one. My only hope is that Taylor Sheridan writes it.

[@07foxmulder]

Really hoping Villeneuve and Deakins return. I really enjoyed Soldado but not having those two (especially Villeneuve) was obvious.

[@woodwyrm]

If it ever happens Villeneuve needs to come back, 2nd movie was nowhere near Empire Strikes Back quality, almost laughable compared to the first.

[@chansoopark9953]

They are so respectful to each other in this conversation but extremely disrespectful at the same time

[@Patrick-uh8xj]

Basically everyone is staying within their scope of support and reminding each other. It's quite brilliant.

You slow types are ridiculous.

[@crazyralph6386]

Most of them know if things go south, it’s Matt’s head on the chopping block, not theirs. Sure, they’ll get shuffled or reposted however, they’re too high profile to eliminate outright. Graves is expendable.

[@mohamedbograin3587]

When monsters speak civilly

[@TerexJ]

politics

[@Graystaff]

So glad Private Joker went on to become Secretary of State.

[@dr.mungusphd.3162]

Probably Defense or HS Secretary.

[@robertpadillosandiego2821]

@@dr.mungusphd.3162 homeland security. DoD is for conflicts abroad , while terrorism against homeland, falls under homeland security. Since this secretary said the administration is adding cartels to the terrorism list, that’s why I am making a guess he is secretary of homeland security.

[@arceyes]

He was a contentious objector in Vietnam, now he’s starting wars. Amazing villain story arc.

[@righteousduke2704]

Underrated comment and thread 🙌

[@eddiec5036]

@@arceyes the duality of man

[@BlahKDubstep]

I love how Matt just knows they aren’t going to be able to see this thing through. He knew it at the end of the conversation but he tried anyway.

[@user-Duke996]

Because we’ve never finished anything we started….you always leave the door slightly open

[@BlahKDubstep]

@@user-Duke996 True enough

[@mrmarkgor6604]

Private Joker getting serious

[@mmclaurin8035]

"Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?"

[@davecrupel2817]

​@@mmclaurin8035"Who said that? WHO THE FVCK said that?!"

[@rusty7984]

From Pvt Joker all the way to the Secretary of Defense GySgt Hartman would be proud.

[@donpmc]

Agreed.@@rusty7984

[@lastpme]

He has grown up now…

[@garvwadhwaney306]

I love how they are all positioned around him like he's radioactive. Because if they are ever associated with him in public, the fallout would land them in jail.

[@egg64]

I expected him to walk in shaking hands, this shows you everything you need to know

[@ADGNet]

You know you're good when the Secretary of Defence and all his henchmen gives you the green light to start a secret war.

[@frozentundra7446]

Or, the most expendable...

[@antonios.1894]

@@frozentundra7446also, why he’s there

[@fr-tigerfangs7039]

No. You know you’re good when such brass ask you how you would conduct a dirty mission none of them would even consider doing.

[@kevinbraden798]

Now that's my tax dollars at work.... I'm sure some Climate Change money went to support this little mission.......

[@dynagaming2693]

@@kevinbraden798 If you think a handful of countries can solve climate change meanwhile the two most populated countries in the world (China and India) are the top polluters, good luck. Unless literally every country on the face of the planet commits and actually changes things, it won't happen. No matter how much money we try to throw at it.

[@MA-kt8ly]

Dirty is exactly why you're here - reminds me when I was working for a scetic tank company.

[@lad4830]

It's a compliment if you think about it. Means you prioritize your moral compass over government's rules. You think "How do I do what needs to be done" not "How do I do this by the book" Makes you a wild animal, but you are incomparably more efficient than any lawmen

[@lm-pw9ul]

Those kinds of work should be automated.

[@rospencer611]

Them scetic tanks hella lot better than septic tanks

[@mariojcollado1384]

[@macca1986-u6h]

Loved Sicario 1 and 2. Very dark and sinister movies, great acting too.

[@mexman000]

its too bad the composer died. he did "the beast" in the first one Jóhann Jóhannsson

[@lolobyte7455]

Is there a part 3 U think?

[@SolesElegance]

Very realistic as well, your generic hollywood movie always depicts the USA as some holy savior.

[@MalakianM2S]

The half shrouded Mathew Moddine's face during most of the scene is just poetry. You could even say it's a callback to Casablanca's use of shadows.

[@starguy2718]

Private Joker

[@CrackerJohn100]

Shady politicians.

[@dps6198]

And then they left him twisting in the wind, him and Alejandro.

[@raymeester7883]

Surprised?

[@healthycigarettes5088]

They were both expendable even before being authorized the mission.

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

@@raymeester7883 Not in the least. .

[@AruanDrako]

That's literally what the US does to its human assets and allies throughout history. Keep looking at Zelensky, see what happens.

[@frethero19]

2:40 onward, especially 2:46 onward followed by Brolins hand rub says everything. Every single person in that room knew exactly what was being asked and what could, and likely would, happen. The hand rub and the "...I'll have to get dirty" was Brolin's character accepting his mission, and his inevitable fate. If you didnt understand the movie just say so.

[@nBaqi]

"How would you define terrorism Mr Graver?" "That's your job sir." Straight up made a point. Legislative is the one who defines it in legal term.

[@user-iu2um8fd8n]

Secretary is not part of the legislative, he is part of the executive. The legislative body would be Congress

[@albertosantiago5638]

@@user-iu2um8fd8n The Estate and its politicians defines what ever is Legal and Ilegal. The CIA is a terrorist organization as well as Al-Qaeda. All Estates / Govs. around the world are basically thiefs, murders and terrorists. I love this scene from this movie.

[@ryles1159]

Can’t believe this comment doesn’t have longer thread lol. The fact is that the definition stated basically encompasses every government since ever, thereby giving rise to that tired one man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter

[@albertosantiago5638]

​@@ryles1159The state and its politicians define what is and who is a "terrorists" during a specific Time... This scene Is brutal.

[@marlonregner3817]

"That's your job sir." It means I don't waste my time on political correctness mumbo jumbo. Just give me the green light.

[@johnsaucedo1131]

'Such an awesome movie. Brolin delivers.

[@avrrojas84]

Matthew Modine is a brilliant actor. His screen presence has always been uncanny. Hope we see more of him.

[@CrackerJohn100]

I feel they really let him rip it in Stranger Things. Like "Matthew, go FULL Modine!" Not a lot of instructions, just.. do your thing.

[@avrrojas84]

@@CrackerJohn100 Right

[@SB-du9if]

Josh Brolin is such an underrated actor and he shines in this role Awaiting the 3rd Instalment of this great series I hope Alejandro gets that punce of a Senator in the 3rd one who betrayed them

[@patrickgarrison7640]

3rd one? It's not out yet. Have you seen scenes or something? Do tell

[@Moshion]

Underrated doesn’t apply to him anymore.

[@brandonparson8821]

How in God's name is Josh Brolin underrated man?

[@jrobinson5661]

Underrated?! Starring roles in Sicario, Dune, No Country for Old Men, Avengers, Deadpool, Men in Black, Only the Brave etc…yeah, not so underrated.

[@RM-eg1ed]

I’m starting to think people don’t know the actual definition of “underrated”. How is he underrated? He’s Thanos!!!

[@hawlikd]

Pvt. Joker has all grown up to be Secretary of Defense.

[@J_GoTTi]

The sad thing is that this is probably the most accurate portrayal i’ve seen of how our government underbelly makes decisions.

[@geordiejones5618]

It's how every empire worked, works and will work. No exceptions. You rule with an iron fist or you beg not to get punched by it.

[@simonphoenix3789]

I don't know if I believe that. This seems far too competent.

[@J_GoTTi]

@@simonphoenix3789 lol

[@robdog1245]

Not with Magoo at the helm. Maybe with Trump, but Magoo will crap himself then wander out of the office looking for ice cream.

[@robgrey6183]

And it doesn't stop with foreigners.

[@rodrigobarba930]

Brolin at the end of the convo: perfectly balanced as all things should be Military: what? Brolin: what?

[@napalmman8292]

Josh didn’t even flinch when he said kidnap the prince and the king will start a war, imagine all those horrible things he did in the past…

[@weirdshibainu]

RIght? The secretary knew what he had done by mentioning Iraq.

[@napalmman8292]

@@weirdshibainuthen the secretary asking him if this would work, Josh answered “If you want it to”.

[@machinegunpictures]

Imagine the horrible things the prince and king did you absolute void skull.

[@mrmark8603]

I hear they are making a third movie. I am sure it will be of the same high standard.

[@SpectreGunship]

Hopefully about Alejandro training his new protege.

[@F_Around_and_find_out]

Only watched Sicario clips but this is what I picked up and love: Cold, ice cold professionals going straight to business. It can't be a Sicario movie without the cold.

[@footfoot07011988]

I keep watching and watching and watching this movie , I'm addicted to it

[@aussiedownunder1993]

NGL, we NEED a film series about the things that Graver did in the middle east.

[@seandooley4881]

Soooo…..this conversation is now taking place in the real world. Sicario is now a documentary.

[@bfg9000zx]

This conversation has happened at some point in some room

[@plasticweapon]

you make it sound like some remote experience in ancient history.

[@kellyfontes7757]

Then the DNC shuts it down

[@tonymiranda7056]

Happened for real

[@juanbendejo7985]

It's Clear and Present Danger again. We've seen it.

[@thedarkness2635]

Man, I would really like a trilogy of this film series

[@christophersteiner4863]

Love that bit when he says “if you want it too, sir” so confident that he can get the outcome either way.

[@adolfoblanco2535]

Unfortunately, when push came to shove, the secretary folded like a deck of cards. 🤔😔😔

[@fallinginthed33p]

Similar to A Clear and Present Danger.

[@rolandmiller5456]

Well it wasn't supposed to go sideways. Did the mission works the way it's supposed to everybody goes home Happy.

[@egg64]

cause he aint about that life

[@bearpitt]

Surprised Matt isn't wearing flipflops.

[@michaelgreene582]

Crocs

[@gooseypig84]

Lol!​@chaelgreene582

[@jerdog71]

Modine is so dark in this role. He makes a good villain.

[@amitsalam1]

neutralizing your enemy is a slow process at that level of the game and you yourself have to appear irreproachable

[@texassportsman5880]

When it got dirty they left him and Alejandro twisting and flapping in the wind. You're needed until you're not needed. Then you're disposable.

[@cmleoj]

I’m not sure he was all that ‘needed’, in a sense. “He's a psychopathic killer, but so what? There's plenty of them around.” The Brolin character needs his handlers more than they need him, and he knows it. He can’t be a loose cannon in a constraint-free environment without the government, but they can find a replacement for him in a couple of minutes.

[@Mr2at]

Its been a while but I need to watch this film again

[@kevinfernandes1882]

is this on Netflix?? I need to watch it too

[@scottlewis8386]

Me as well

[@darhkbizarre]

It's on Tubi right now I saw. Possibly Hulu

[@residentevilfreakk55]

Never been more relevant than it is right now

[@Dondingdingding]

It's like a cut scene of black ops 1

[@LeadMunitions]

This movie is a great depiction of exactly what’s happening in 2024..

[@AB034TX]

Who would have thought Private Joker could reach such heights in the government.

[@jt8218]

I think this conversation will soon happen in real life.

[@CrazyMunky84]

I love how the Secretary of Defence has a Marine flag in his office meaning he is a Marine and he's portrayed by Matthew Modine. That was clearly done on purpose lol.

[@santioliva7942]

the way he mimics the "washing of his hands" made it clear que understands

[@indobleh]

This type of scene, when done well is fantastic. My favourite : Willard : Terminate the Colonel? General Corman : He's out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct. And he is still in the field commanding troops. Civilian : *Terminate with extreme prejudice*

[@madveteran7945]

“Kind of” the same reason I was put into a high school basketball game back in the day. I wasn’t there to make points. I was in the game because I played dirty.

[@JoeFabeets]

Private joker certainly has a come a long way since his time on the island.

[@ryleighloughty3307]

Fabulous, ominous, and foreboding soundtrack.

[@sk8trgrinder]

This scene is a great example of the power dynamic within the US government. We see that the top brass is only as capable as the CIA allows them to be. Crazy to think what else is going on behind closed doors

[@robgrey6183]

"Dirty is exactly why you're here" Anyone who believes that this is only for foreigners is delusional.

[@adavidbujanda]

Wow was this movie predicting the future?

[@S_Warden]

Nah this was going on way before it went mainstream

[@simonphoenix3789]

Cartels have been involved in human trafficking for a while, including at the time when this movie came out.

[@RojaJaneman]

Past. For millennia

[@osvaldoruiz3826]

They always know

[@master-of-mind5881]

Yeah it’s called predictive programming. They did the same with 9/11. It was foreshadowed in movies like the matrix and cartoons like simpsons years before the event. There’s no such thing as coincidence only consequence.

[@dhldt1021]

Josh is great. Excellent well structured scene and set.

[@fredpekkala1977]

‘’If you want to see this thru, I’m going to have to get dirty” ‘’ dirty is why your here”. (Love that scene)

[@hurricaneaquatics]

Damn that's a great scene. All actors are perfect.

[@Studentofgosset]

A great scene, a clear imbalance of power, yet each being confident in what they do. When they ask him how to start a war you can see them start to grow a little uncomfortable with the dimensions of thought Brolin's character is familiar and comfortable with, yet can see the value of his approach. And he reminds the Secretary that it is his moral choice...

[@gooseypig84]

Well put.

[@jkspurs5865]

Brolin is so good in this

[@williamb.2167]

Do you think those tactics would work here? If you want it to sir

[@geessaess1707]

I heard Private Joker became the Secretary of Defense.

[@elxaime3792]

"As we learned in Iraq..." Yes, because that went so well.

[@NOTMYPRESIDENT-f7e]

Damn the Call of Duty graphics are great!!!

[@geekdiggy]

this was one of the most brilliantly written scenes i've ever watched in a movie. what genius writing.

[@Lordlt82]

God damn it joker you made me proud moving trough the ranks.

[@christianromero6604]

The rubbing of the hands ...like a dog salivating at a steak 🥩

[@christophersteiner4863]

Was waiting for "show us your war face" ahhhhhhhhh!

[@bruhitsme2601]

The lighting is great. The general's face is in half black and white, showing exactly what he's intending.

[@ZiLoXCY]

My beard grew while watching this scene. Damn

[@peterjhpark4782]

Never realized this conversation has Clear and Present Danger roots.

[@chrsloc145]

That scene was very intense

[@florianhaffner3910]

We need a part 3 of Sicario!

[@aaabbbccc543]

one of the best movies ever

[@infinightsky]

Private joker has come a long way

[@richard8644]

DIRTY is exactly why your here…..best line of the movie

[@marvelfoxmorty5057]

gaddamn it... where's the threequel, this needs a trilogy to complete the story, one of THE best movie when it comes to depicting CARTELs War

[@matthewcarle5970]

This scene is absolutely cold.

[@patientzero291]

A father's weakness is our next generation.

[@murrowboy]

Oh God, make part 3 already!

[@rusty7984]

We may be getting it in real life with Donny back in office

very realistic scene and acted so slick that it all makes sense in the real world of today!

[@KaoticReach1999]

Well....that's actually an interesting discussion, what it really does is leave a power vacuum that can lead to the situation being worse till you eventually need to start a war.

[@pixsilvb9638]

Private Joker goes full swing Sec of State busting the Cartels after wining the America’s Cup from the Kiwis and getting nailed in his unaffordable SanFran height.

[@haroldbrowning7313]

One of the greatest movies of all time!

[@bxp1696]

Makes me want to enlist.

[@hardhang]

in the end they couldn't stomach it and pulled the plug

[@woofna1948]

Oh, they could stomach it. They've embraced far worse. But your point is well made. When the policy or action risks becomming difficult or impossible to bury or deny, they start getting cold feet. What's accurate is the Secretary's comment about not needing to remind him of "what would happen" if it was revealed that the US was behind it. The concept of "plausible deniability" applies here.

[@classified9583]

I love the brief music as all of the people in the room realize who they’re looking at then it shifts back to buisness

[@simonbridges3835]

A read of Matt Graver's C.V would be good for a laugh! 😱

[@CP-jk3tc]

25 years of experience in human management?

[@harryc1971]

Lots of black toner

[@jaredreed6843]

25 years of human downsizing@@CP-jk3tc

[@Joseph-ic8xd]

The turnover must be extraordinary @@CP-jk3tc

[@combomaster666]

@@harryc1971 Entire A4 page of redacted

[@geekdiggy]

it struck me how the first two camera angles made it seem like they were alone in the room. but over the next two shots you see it's a brassy affair. i'm not good at analyzing scenes so i don't know why that was done, but it was impactful, for me at least. kind of reminded me of the many times i was called into the principal's office. it was never just us. there was also an 8th person in the room with them, only half in the frame, i thought that was interesting.

[@ashtonpaul9666]

They need to make a 3rd film!

[@YY4UGUYSS416]

No more peace pins for private joker

[@mikeweesner9698]

Great scene...Sicario 3 needs to happen

[@allaboutjapan237]

Damn he gets introduced, and he’s like, have a seat. Politics is a cold world lol.

[@Jdabomb93]

“Dirty is exactly why you’re here.” (Starts taking clothes off, to the music)

[@BBAERSTANCE1]

Archduke Ferdinand would disagree

[@davemowles3356]

He wasn't a king, he was the heir (which ironically is the direct reference here)

[@emmanuelriveravideografia9930]

every body in that room are cosumers of the product, they're principal part of the business and fighting it is the paradoxical thing, because arms are also another part and successively

[@chistoso1985]

"Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?"

[@hawlikd]

Waiting Part 3 Josh?

[@ВасяТёркин-е9л]

Duke Franz Ferdinand: "Hold my Schnaps!"

[@northislandguy]

Waiting for Bodine to say: “These drug cartels represent a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States”

[@orsotheshadowspear7424]

Volunteering.I've taken this very personally.

[@LoadedGunn47]

This movie really does start out strong and just falls off a cliff as soon as it becomes an escort mission rather than sticking to its original plot. All of the initial intrigue is abandoned to attempt an unnecessary redemption arc for Alejandro that unfortunately doesn’t lead anywhere trying to mimic more successful “father/surrogate daughter” stories already told frequently and with more impact.

[@maraghost3927]

Now this is gonna happen irl

[@brianz7861]

If you want it to work President Trump…

[@maraghost3927]

@@brianz7861 I’m gonna have to get… 🙏👏🙏👏 DIRTY…

[@starguy2718]

SecDef Joker: "Show me your war face, Graver! Aaaahhh!!!" Graver: "Aahh!" SecDef Joker: "You call that a war face?"

[@hassanialderson1101]

“You think those tactics will work here”….. “If you want them too sir”😬😬

[@tomcolley9008]

I love how the definition of terrorism is basically any war, anywhere in the world, at any time in history.