Crazy how ppl are already trashing on this detachment, i think this is gonna go absolutely insane probably not better then gladius, but the pure amount of shenanigans you can do in here is going to be fun.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
people just really enjoy being Negative Nancies man. This detachment rocks. I am glad you can see it!
@NBeaver-bx4yl9 күн бұрын
100% agree. It's just that reading it quickly, and thinking of ravenwing as only the knights and Deathwing only as terminators. Makes this detachment looks bad. But when you take the time in looking at all the keywords and how they work. Who has access to it. This gets really good imo.
@JamesHuxford9 күн бұрын
GW could give a detachment that gave you hits on 1, wounds on 1 and 1+++ save with rerolls, uppy/downy with scout, lone op and stealth and peple would still complain its not good enough.
@XHobbiesPrime9 күн бұрын
I think it is better for DA than Stormlance
@kenupton40849 күн бұрын
They're probably people like me that play Deathwing for Deathwing. Not Ravenwing. I don't play Raven Guard or White Scars. I play Dark Angels.
@richardcountry10055 күн бұрын
I think the reason that the people are hating on this detachment is that they think "deathwing" is just limited to the terminators, dreadnoughts and tanks, but I just learned that basically all of my models have that keyword, man this detachment is awesome, FOR THE LION 💪🏻🦁
@Happykrumpingwargaming0075 күн бұрын
Yeah that likely has alot to do with it! But once you realize your LRR's flamers are now anti tank weapons.... hooo boy!
@ZahirPerez-ww6tf2 күн бұрын
For the Lion
@AsbakNL9 күн бұрын
i really hope the deathwatch detachment gets the same love these 2 detachments have gotten so far
@XHobbiesPrime9 күн бұрын
@@AsbakNL I just want to be able play a Deathwatch army again.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
me too, i am pretty confident they will receive 3 detachment
@XHobbiesPrime9 күн бұрын
@Happykrumpingwargaming007 3?!?!?
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
sources say
@shtffitness41479 күн бұрын
So fast! You're the best
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
Cheers my guy! Trying to piece all this new excitement together for people!
@QuentinCantin2 күн бұрын
Regarding your analysis of inescapable wrath Charge Bonus: Bestowed on a unit that makes a Charge move, so that, until the end of the turn, that unit has the Fights First ability. Note that other rules and abilities that trigger when a unit makes a Charge move or in the turn that a unit has charged are not part of the Charge bonus From the core rules
@Happykrumpingwargaming007Күн бұрын
correct, that is literally what i said.
@TexMeta7 күн бұрын
Might not be the best choice, but I'm still gonna run Lion in this because he's my favorite. Maybe I can use Ravenwing to get him close and have him start pulverizing while drawing some fire. Thanks for your videos on this fluff friendly detachment, I finally have a good idea on how to build my first army with a Deathwing focus.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0077 күн бұрын
cheers buddy! This detachment rocks, as you experiment with it i am sure you will find some brilliance!
@joshuaginn7929 күн бұрын
Good take. How am I just now finding this channel?
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
well you are here now! Glad to have your support!
@kimchit13379 күн бұрын
I wonder why GW dont just change the wording on the Charge Bonus to FF as a lot of people misunderstand that.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
i mean they should certainly at least write the definition in Bold!
@a1exw1529 күн бұрын
10:00 What on earth is this terminator buff? I’m very tuned into leaks and haven’t heard anything. Is it 2 plasma cannons per squad of 5 as your image suggests?
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
No! i am excited to share though :P
@a1exw1529 күн бұрын
@ I hope you are not trolling us 🤔🤔
@NBeaver-bx4yl9 күн бұрын
Wait what ? That would actually make terminators good !
@MingCity9 күн бұрын
This detachment is great. If GW takes away Gladius from Dark Angels, then this is the best one for sure. So many ways to listbuild for this one. Thematic and fun.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
I couldn't agree more man!
@fat12e879 күн бұрын
Don’t stormravens already move over terrain because they have fly?
@glb1909 күн бұрын
They still have to spend inches to fly up/down them whereas going through them is huge. This is while it’s using Hover.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
common misconception! They have to spend movement going up and down them because some of 10th's rules are wonky!
@LucTaltos9 күн бұрын
You can choose to have them Hover T1, so they lose Aircraft for the game, but can then start on the table T1 instead of reserves. Drops their move to 20” max.
@LoudLoveTaps9 күн бұрын
I was waiting o.o
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
hehe, i got there!
@Ammo.099 күн бұрын
looks like storm ravens are back on the menu boys!!!!!!!! Az, Lt, 10 Hellblasters, redemptor dread.... coming at ya through walls like a spider monkey before the knights drop in
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
it could just be the right time hahaha, i always wonder if the apothecary is a better choice though
@Lollix879 күн бұрын
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 imo, lt it's better, because he gives you lethals (+ sus1 from azrael) and the chance to fallback and shoot. Add a +1 to wound and that's scary
@alexbrewster41268 күн бұрын
The only thing i hate about these detachments is that The Lion, the primarch of the dark angels, doesn't have ravenwing or deathwing keywords. i think he should have both so that he can be used in all detachments.not just the SM codex compliance detachments and the Unforgiven Task Force. Id be ok with him having just deathwing. Also imagine the ICTF instead of.being limited to infrentry you can grt the plus 1 to wound on the vehicles too. I like the detachment i just hate how hard i went into the desthwing side cuz i have 0 ravenwing models besides 2 land speeders and a Thunderstrike.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0078 күн бұрын
it is not limited to infantry my friend. All dreadnaughts, the repEx, the Land Raider, all are Deathwing
@alexbrewster41268 күн бұрын
@Happykrumpingwargaming007 they don't get the plus 1 to wound from the vowed obj, and a lot of the strats refer to deathwing infrentry.
@alexbrewster41268 күн бұрын
All the deathwing vehicles get zero benfits from the ICTF detachment. Besides just having the deathwing keyword.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0078 күн бұрын
oh forgive me i thought you were talking about this detachment lions blade, since that is the subject of the video. I am on the same page as you now
@alexbrewster41268 күн бұрын
@Happykrumpingwargaming007 you're good I'm just hoping they give love to the other detachments is all. I like this one alot.
@ace123427 күн бұрын
With the sample lists, which unit should stay back and hold the home objective?
@Happykrumpingwargaming0077 күн бұрын
techmarines, scouts, ballistus, late game terminators with uppy downy can shift back, lots of options!
@ace123427 күн бұрын
@@Happykrumpingwargaming007 Thanks! I'm newer dark angels player and I didn't see any obvious "hold the home" units like intercessor or Infiltrators so I was a bit puzzled lol.
@boozeybatman7 күн бұрын
Epic heros give dw keyword so use asmodai with assault intercessors
@szabolcsszigetvari26316 күн бұрын
Wouldnt the dreadnaughts rule work like the overwacth and the big guns never tire? That you cant use both because its not your turn you just can shoot(charge), but you cant use other rules? Or is ut different cause its a rule of the unit?
@Happykrumpingwargaming0076 күн бұрын
it is not phase locked, it simply says when you make a charge. If it said in "your charge phase" it would not work.
@boozeybatman7 күн бұрын
Also all of our epic heros dive deathwing keyword so deathwing hellblasters with azrael. Assault intercessors with asmodai for home objective. Then the charge back with deathwing dosnt get charge benefits well it does with a judiciar leading them! Skadoosh!
@Happykrumpingwargaming0077 күн бұрын
yeah characters leading units absolutely can change the way to run the army!
@boozeybatman7 күн бұрын
@Happykrumpingwargaming007 yeah think I'm the only player to never have played gladius. I've done vanguard and ironstorm but I've always stuck to da detachments out of principle rule. I actually think inner circle is quite good too. But I've got over 12k worth of models so I can pick and choose combos to how I want to play, I actually didn't mind unforgiven but I guess when you've got more options it's more playable.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0077 күн бұрын
inner circle looks legit decent to me, but this beats the brakes off of it
@michagrzegorzrozio48197 күн бұрын
Can stormraven be in hover? Or is it starts game from 2nd turn?
@Happykrumpingwargaming0077 күн бұрын
yes it can be in hover
@kimchit13379 күн бұрын
commenting for algorithm
@Happykrumpingwargaming0079 күн бұрын
You chad, the algorithm and i graciously thank you
@NANA-lq5md5 күн бұрын
My Dark Angels consists of 4 Land Raiders, 4 Dreads, the Lion, and about 150 terminators. So my tactics are a little limited.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0075 күн бұрын
yeah id say so bwahaha
@hendrikworung19678 күн бұрын
I think I dont't agree with the Strategic Reserve. Fulgus Magna enhancement puts the unit into Strategic Reserve. If you read the Additional Rules from 40k App, at Strategic Reserves - Arriving from Strategic Reserves, it said "units that are placed into Strategic Reserves are called Strategic Reserves units, and can arrive later in the battle during the Reinforcement step of any of your Movement phase except during the first battle round." So I think the you can bypass this rules if it specifically said you can arrive at battle round one, like Deathwing Assault enhancement from Inner Circle detachment.
@Happykrumpingwargaming0078 күн бұрын
you are mistaken, feel free to join the discord for me to explain in more detail. ITs litterally the same thing as grey knights, daemons, and hypercrypt
@Jake-cm9jj7 күн бұрын
Why do you need a strat to move Stormraven through walls...it has fly, doesn't that mean it can move over walls?
@Happykrumpingwargaming0077 күн бұрын
Remember in 10th edition, you have to measure vertical movement, so you still have to measure up and down, so this makes a MASSIVE difference on WTC, not so much on GW terrain. seeing as on GW terrain it only has to go up or down 1-2 inches. But with WTC it can change the effective move from 10 inches to 20.
@Lollix879 күн бұрын
Damn, you're tempting me into printing some marines for myself 😂
@BenjaminHolbrook-tz6pw8 күн бұрын
Still not a fan of this detachment. Cp expensive for gimmicks with very little payoff. If they had given the desperate escape rule to Deathwing as well that would've been something to get excited about.