Side by Side Drum Comparison

Four different marching snare drums with four different kinds of drum head set-ups.

[@ohjazzduo9560]

Those rope drums sound SWEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!

[@jakubsabosz2933]

+oh! Jazz Duo/Ens. they sound like drums should sound unlike the ones that give that plastic stick sound... man how i hate that every single video with tags "marching snare drum" is about this shit :S

[@1n0nlyAsa]

oh! Jazz Duo/Ens. ya im black want to go to college for drumline snare for human jukebox snare line i wish theyed use thr red rope one

[@arianaramirez4418]

I liked the snare

[@CrazyAssDrumma]

nice and phat

[@shadowballgaming351]

@@jakubsabosz2933 no ewww can’t stand that low tone you can’t understand what’s being played crisp off the head

[@toxi101yt5]

I want to be one of those guys that just gets to play around with like 10 snares

[@Reuben_Lalnunzira]

same here

[@thebayoudiaries8389]

I like the first one best

[@G-zero07]

Detector Boy same

[@og-crack4190]

yep

[@juanmenendez6559]

Saltfisher 14 same here

[@renedominguez6352]

the most pleasing and basically a mini bass drum

[@snipersnake777]

Agreed

[@grilledbeefsteak4811]

That first drum is battle ready :)

[@RishiJalukar]

I’m very partial towards newer marching snares but i gotta admit, those rope drums sound amazing

[@Neeko_Z]

Sweet. Love the rope drums. More pure sounding

[@colincharmley4754]

The second drum sounds so sick/ amazing

[@DCIdrummer]

Wonderful playing! That first drum was beautiful sounding!!

[@matthewpaluch777]

Cooperman rocked it! No wonder William "the Chief" Ludwig II said that was the only drum he would ever pay for!

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

The bigger the drum, the better the sound. The ultra-high tension tabletops like the yamaha are grating. The first rope drum actually sounds like a snare. That is my preference.

[@erraticboss168]

Ryan Alexander Bloom agreed

[@terrencewiggins6745]

Ryan Alexander Bloom ya a drum set snare

[@rhythmikj9761]

Terrence Wiggins facts

[@rhythmikj9761]

Ryan Alexander Bloom nowadays that would be considered a floor Tom with snares on the bottom

[@PARABLLM]

Ryan Alexander Bloom Im only 15 never really been around a while so my fav is the YAMAHA sforzando but the rope drums sound awesome

[@garypugh1153]

the first drum wins. where's the fifes ?

[@frankburdodrums8984]

Yea really. Get your musket the red coats are coming.

[@elansleazebaganno]

High tension marching snares are the standard for most marching bands today, and is better for and settings. I prefer the sound of the last one, the Yahama.

[@renedominguez6352]

i agree that punch tho

[@shadowballgaming351]

@@elansleazebaganno right can’t stand a low pitched snare why because nobody can freaking understand what’s being played off the head

[@kagtkalem7115]

@@shadowballgaming351 high pitched ones are so shallow i don't like their sound. Low pitched one has a nice punch that motivates? you

[@andthensome512]

The first one sounds the best, although both the old ones sound great. Who came up with the bad idea that marching snares should sound like Formica table tops?

[@benjiboy9907]

Sound projects better compared to the rope snares, plus it’s lighter, plus you can mount it easier, plus a million other things. I think modern snares sound DOPE.

[@americanspirit8932]

@@benjiboy9907 I disagree I think the snare drums are using today sound like table tops horrible far from a real snare sound plus with the cores and bands are playing today very simple compared to what we played in Old Skool days we played all the rudiments including Swiss movements for exposure to era points today in my opinion it doing warm-ups for the entire show nothing difficult about that although their execution because of the simplicity of what that playing Play song clean

[@parkerswanbeck5465]

@Xavier Stewart He means the modern pipe band snare drums that don’t sound like other snares at all.

[@joedimarzo9891]

@@americanspirit8932 first off. The drums are tuned so high for a reason. They are designed to project. Unfortunately the old fashioned drums simply cannot project over a 150+ horn ensemble across a football stadium. In addition, if you think modern drum corps writing is “simple” watch Santa Clara Vanguards 2019 show for about one or two minutes and get back to me when you’re done.

[@mattshay9393]

@@americanspirit8932 Thanks man I needed a laugh today

[@steveb9426]

Can't believe the high pitch that 17 incher produced!

[@zim1966]

Beautiful area to play in. Really nice sounding drums that second rope drum sounded killer.

[@batmanc]

my pick, as well.

[@kolbypaquette5995]

The second and third sound the best to me

[@jweaver_]

Swaying away from the topic of how the drums sound to say: Nice rolls! They sound super good!

[@ATS123]

To be honest I didn't really like the tunning of the yamaha snare

[@snareromie5295]

Same

[@panhead55]

It's not the tuning. All these later style early 1990s and later (floaters) sound like garbage. The older more relax drums and heads always sounded better, but we're so use to super cranked new stuff that it has become the norm.

[@ATS123]

Idk it might be because I only know modern drum tuning

[@RoyaltonDrummer922]

Imo, modern marching snares sound super dumb when its just one playing but in a full line, they're buttery smooth

[@mapetty]

and not so good with 3 or 4 either, but much nicer with 8 or 9, IMHO

[@brookgangwayne]

The yamaha isn’t tuned right

[@timurphree5757]

No u

[@brookgangwayne]

Christian Graham you right but as for the style I was personally introduced too this is wrong but as you said it’s a personal preference 💯 I respect that

[@gavin_bigred]

It needs to be a little higher. I know tuning is a preference but the point of kevlar marching heads is high tension and usually when they are that low its cause the person tuning it doesnt know what they are doing. Ive never heard a dci line or even college line with kevlars sound that low.

[@tucker.84]

Some people say that the new drums ( 3:44 ) don't sound like "real" drums. After watching this video, I think it's safe to say that that It sounds the same as all the others, but with stronger, more tougher drum heads.

[@toznerd6369]

That Cooperman is the business! It's got hair on its...............snares! I wish more outfits marched with rope snare drums and that they sounded like the Copperman!

[@americanspirit8932]

The West Point hellcats play on them and so do most Fife and Drum course today use old cooperman drums

[@Somerandomdrummer1775]

Check out Loyal Drums. They took over making rope drums for Cooperman

[@gavin_bigred]

I love the second rope drums tuning over the first one

[@EnchiladaMan360]

Hi, Tom! Your video inspired me to get my new favorite snare two months ago through Reverb, a beautiful 15 x 12 Slingerland in Blue Sparkle finish from 1965, and I cannot thank you enough for that. It is by far the best snare that I have ever played, and I have it tuned roughly halfway between the first two snares in your video. It still had the original resonant head on it when the drum arrived in the mail, but it now has an Evans UV1 batter, and a 300 Clear resonant. I use it both on its own when practicing rudiments, and as part of my drum set.

[@Tom70s]

Glad to hear about your new drum, Raymond. KZbin has been an endless source of inspiration for me. I only picked up drum sticks again in 2011 after 30 years. I reconnected with old friends and organized Robbins' Rebels drum line, collected lots of drums, took up dirt bike riding, and I'm now back into guitar (and buying lots of those, too). All thanks to the fun stuff I see on KZbin, and the ability to shop on eBay, Amazon and Reverb! lol

[@davem9132]

Nice collection of drums and playing..30 year break? wow how long did it take to get your chops back. did it feel like starting over again or did you snap back fairly quickly?

[@shiningarmor2838]

Would this be a Side-by-side side drum comparison?

[@brianchisnell1548]

I must say, great drumming! I have 2 mid 70's TDR 'S so you know my favorite. Old dudes playing old drums. bc

[@SnareFlow]

That was fun. Nice playing. Hit the like button as soon as I heard that first 7. 🎉

[@EltonNRichards]

Your closing comments were funny

[@mastahmanroblox7250]

I kinda wanna buy the third and second drums but I can't find them :(

[@Tom70s]

www.cooperman.com/ for the rope drum. Slingerland TDR's and Ludwig Challengers can be found from time to time on eBay.

[@dillpickle6843]

that sfz could’ve sounded better with different tuning, too much too head and not enough snare response

[@CelloSeanMuller]

Dill Pickle and personally I prefer the sound and feel using Remo Black max on top, given proper tuning as stated above; though those rope drums were amazing!

[@maxwellmckinley637]

Yeah, head is great, but too much of it can start to be kinda uncomfortable.

[@jerrygilmore2757]

That is my opinion also.

[@americanspirit8932]

Opinions are like armpits everybody has at least two

[@subnetic]

Very nice! You have amazing hands!!

[@Tom70s]

Thanks!

[@cherylimo1126]

The first 3 sound great! The Yamaha sounds like a practice pad, which is the sound they go for these days. By the way nice demo!

[@huhsnare]

The smaller rope drum sounded incredible

[@Copper20]

The first one is very soothing sounding like a concert snare drum.

[@torrsellin-9720]

The silver one is the best

[@cireravilob]

Great video. You have a great quality of sound btw.. Thanks for the vid

[@williambradfordbaldwin4386]

good drumming

[@Tom70s]

Thanks!

[@SaneTheBro]

I like the 3rd one best

[@marffvmarffv5438]

Hello Tom. Can you tell for the first drum the model please ? Thanks

[@bigteddy03]

Nice Connecticut Halftime!

[@Tom70s]

Thanks!

[@chsemaphor]

The first one all the way! That's the Drum.

[@elkjaer615]

What is the rhythm you play at @2:50 called? Some kind of flams and doubles?

[@kylegardner9240]

Elkjær he says at the end its a little ditty written by some guy I don't know so

[@logannewhouse2896]

EpicMem you're everywhere lol

[@CharlieGroh]

Kevin Donka...you should google him...he's dope.

[@americanspirit8932]

# 4 SOUNDS LIKE A CARDBOARD BOX AS DO MOST OF THE DRUM'S TODAY IN DCI & DCA. FORMER MEMBER OF THE LONG ISLAND SUNRISES DRUM AND BUGLE CORPS.

[@zxzxzx622]

The rope drums sound the best!!! I've never understood how those kevlar drums caught on. They sound bad!!!!

[@RCPercussion]

They straight up sound like a table when cranked up. This is why I prefer mylar, which actually sounds like a snare drum even when cranked up

[@relwoodmusic3630]

I have a replica west point snare that looks just like that first one. I use it as a bedside table, and it brings a great vibe to my room.

[@sjmalex982]

those rope drums must have been tuned by GOD so good

[@CVsnaredevil]

Any advice on tuning a high tension snare with a Mylar batter? Should I use a Mylar bottom or can I use a Kevlar bottom? I've seen people like Jeff Queen use a Mylar batter with Kevlar bottom.

[@elijahfiest6288]

i personally use kevlar batters with kevlar sides and those sound beautiful on marching drums, but i have had to use mylar sides with kevlar batters and while the sound quality isnt as good in my opinion, the method of tuning isnt any different, just dont tune as high.

[@SWriverstone]

Anyone who thinks modern DCI snares with kevlar heads sound good needs to reevaluate their worldview, LOL. (And if you really love playing on a marble kitchen counter, then it won't be long before your hands and arms are destroyed.) I'm really encouraged by the number of comments here saying the deep rope tension drum sounds great-I agree 100%, this is what a snare drum *should* sound like! As an aside, a complaint of the TDR's when used by top drum corps was that they went through thousands of heads in a season. Well DUH. Heads tend to break when you become obsessed with cranking them up to pressures only found at the bottom of the Marianas Trench, LOL.

[@joedimarzo9891]

Just out of curiosity have you ever actually spent more than five minutes with a modern drum corps?

[@BrendrumJones]

thanks for that.

[@tylera86]

The first rope drum. Wow!

[@williambradfordbaldwin4386]

Nice , I think I would tune the bigger drum much lower to get the full affect of their depth

[@sawyerspearman5297]

Got you the 200th sub😛😉

[@DennisJohnsonDrummer]

Please send the TDR to the following address! Ha! We marched TDRs in 1980 with the Spirit of Atlanta. (silver dots as I remember) cranked to the max of course. Thanks for posting this.

[@Tom70s]

David Snead was my roommate in summer of '79 Blue Stars.

[@DennisJohnsonDrummer]

@@Tom70s I remember David. Did you know Dale Powers? He marched snare with Blue Stars in 1978 and then marched Spirit in 1979. We were both in the Auburn University Drum line. Lots of drummers from Auburn marched D.C.I. (Blue Star, Phantom, Spirit, Blue Devils).Memories.

[@eboone]

I’m glad marching drums have changed the way they did

[@kaziiqbal7257]

Was side by side drum supposed to be a pun? Because I love it!

[@Oridux]

the drum has corona on it jesus christ

[@kaizarkthetitan0]

I wanna see a battle of the first drum and the last drum

[@That_Guy4381]

Also after awhile I am getting drawn to the Rope drum

[@Bandtracks]

Correction those rope snares sound like concert snares but a very thin crisp tone

[@ryderalley4853]

Someone tell me how many times he said “uhh”

[@Ian-uu3dz]

Dont try what at home?

[@popeyesailor9571]

wonderful tuning on all drums U kive the Slingerland and Cooperman the best but the hybrid heads do make a difference on video

[@ROCKNROLLFAN]

I like the 2nd snare Cooperman the best and this Man has clean chops.

[@Tom70s]

Thx!

[@kylelee4812]

the yamaha sfz looks so clean

[@JwadeProductions7]

The neighbors 👁👃🏽👁

[@austinfields1397]

I've seen and heard different nations use these drums in different videos for their marching music but probably the most unique and strange sound in the history of these marching drums was pre-ww2 Germany. The Hitlerjugen played on these marching snares but it sounded more like a concert bass drum. My thing is how the heck does someone tune a snare like this into the sound of a concert bass drum tone? I will assume that tuning these snares are quite different than modern day snares.

[@robertflynn4478]

Hi Tom! I am a bagpiper looking to use a drummer when playing for funerals. I want to achieve a deadened or muffled sound on the snare. We don't want to mess with his band drum, so we're looking for a drum that'll give us that sombre sound that you'd associate with funeral marches. Would a rope tension field drum or something like that be the way to go? Any suggestions? Thanks!

[@Tom70s]

Check eBay for rope tension drums. A lot of inexpensive new and used ones just might do the trick. For the most expensive option, Cooperman Rope Drum at Cooperman.com specifically makes a model for funeral use.

[@robertflynn4478]

Thanks, Tom!

[@Firecaster1209]

Where can you buy the first one

[@jackpazdernik]

Connecticut halftime?

[@benjaminkip9143]

What is the brand name of the 1st drum he plays?

[@Meme-xq1wn]

My school also uses Yamaha marching snare drum

[@TopDrumCorps]

This Kid here I don’t think anybody asked

[@darrylgreer68]

So I bought the first drum you used there, mine very deep and bellows lol silly question perhaps, can it be tuned? Lol

[@Tom70s]

Yes. Tighten the leather ears evenly down as tight as you want.

[@betulaobscura]

In this case: the bigger - the better. Big marching snares have body and tone. Those small ones sounds thin, chocked and flat.

[@The_okay_roblox_youtuber]

That marching snare can go way higher than that by The way

[@BruceTheSillyGoose]

which one is best capable of cutting through ambient noise and carrying a good distance?

[@Tom70s]

Probably the Cooperman or the Slingerland TDR.

[@BruceTheSillyGoose]

@@Tom70s thank you 😎

[@jonjon2663]

Great video! Thanks so much. Does the Yamaha drum have the two snare setup (one under batter head, one on the bottom)? Also, that 2nd last drum (the silver one you've had since 74') sounds amazing!

[@Tom70s]

The Yamaha did not have a two snare set-up.

[@paulblichmann2791]

Remember: "There's always room at the top". The higher the snare sound the better. Stays out of the way of the tonal/"real" instruments because it can always be heard without overplaying.

[@JedediahTombstone]

That's one the crispest sounding rope drums I've heard!

[@GlenTindal]

The first drum sounded the best. The last one sounded kinda boxy.

[@davetube11]

what wires are on the TDR ? And what year is the TDR? thanks

[@Tom70s]

1974 Slingerland TDR-100. Gut snares are still original.

[@camillecarey9493]

May I ask how you have the TDR tuned? Pitch batter and snare side? I’m trying to tune my traditional snare of this size but there’s quite a bit of ring. What’s the black thing under the batter head to the side- is it a dampener?

[@Bandtracks]

I thought the old drums would sound like drum kit snares in the other ones would sound like regular snares but no the old-fashioned snare drum sound great

[@snareplayer1]

Did know you could get a rope drum that tight sounding. Always thoughtnthey had a deep sound.

[@GOLDSMITHEXILE]

The first drum was outstanding, warm, mellow . The others were too dry and bland especially the last 2

[@GOLDSMITHEXILE]

@Xavier Stewart sure son, sure

[@gregballard6920]

The concert snare ?

[@Dolores5000]

Sure love a big snare sound ! The second one to me sounds perfect! I don’t really care for the marching snare sound trend of higher pitch over the years :/ the last one sounds like a wood block Great playing and fantastic demo!

[@elizabethhercules6158]

como se llaman todos los tambores

[@joshuagriffin3342]

What was the name of the flam lick that you played on each of the drums and who was it written by

[@lukecarodrums]

Joshua Griffin if u want it just watch and learn 😂😂

[@caiaphasflagg673]

Flam fun!

[@shadofreally]

that Yamaha sounded like shit

[@clarkbolding5161]

Agreed. A bit too bit high and not enough snare sound for my taste.

[@G-zero07]

clark bolding the ones at my school are WAY higher pitch than that Yamaha I like the larue snare

[@KM-px8cs]

It was probably because he was using a hybrid head.

[@brookgangwayne]

Kyla M. Go watch prairie view msd drumline they recently began marching Yamaha’s with the exact same head tuned way higher

[@metalskeleton569]

It might be the tuning. He could have choked the snares or tightened the head too much.

[@ВладимирПавличенко-г4г]

N2 - best!

[@trailrider3337]

sick I play snare to

[@oldtimedrumcorps]

the Cooperman? second Drum sounded closer to the original snares used in the 60s First drum also sweet . sound went down hill from there . Last drum sounded like a practice pad Actually the headrests in the buses sounded better

[@paulblichmann2791]

#3 wins. #4 had no accent unless it was brutally thwacked. #4 was borderline "Not an Instrument"

[@mrmann544]

How much did the Yamaha 14in cost?

[@xyzct]

Just throw the last three in the recycling bin.

[@REPUBLICANSAREBEYONDSTUPID]

Silver dot!

[@Lydirius]

Let's start off with Connecticut Halftime. 😊

[@JacobHalfman]

You might want to retune the Yamaha and redo the video.

[@eilrahc3235]

I liked the tuning

[@meeasluhiphop8880]

nice

[@eclecticmn4838]

The video won't play for me now. An error occured. Please try later. Got it!. Great sounds I hate the sounds of the modern snares. Just my taste. There is very little change in dynamics from soft to loud, accents do not stand out as they did in the past. I recently found the 1967 Cavliers video and loved the drums. Dynamics. I recently found the US Army Old Guard drum line. They sound different but very very good. Around 1970s Troopers had rope drums.

[@georgewallace4939]

I like the ten lug best. Guess I am just old school, but I really don't like the plastic sound of the high tension hybrid tabletop stuff the youngsters are playing these days. I'm sure the bounce is great, but it's just not a pure snare sound to me. Nice playing.

[@Lydirius]

Try some cat gut snares! 😉