SIDE EFFECTS OF FAITH ▫️Small Doses Podcast w/ Kirk Franklin

[@SupaBlessedAries]

I love how Kirk is going on all these podcast having fun just being human and Amanda is always dope and I love how she don’t care who you are she will still hold you accountable ❤

[@benadek6703]

She needs to hold herself accountable for lying on Myron rolle and owes that man a public apology

[@tevionna]

exactly why i clicked i was soooo ready for this😭😭😭😭😭

[@Lalaphive]

I love honest conversations about religion. It really shows who is willing to be real about life and who isn't.

[@Bklyn112]

It was a wonderful conversation. I love Kirk and although I am not Christian, I was Smiling, Stomping, Imagining, and Lifting Every Voice right along with him! However, Kirk's ministry is music, not analytical study of theology. His exegesis that because a group of people changed their lifelong traditions on the word of Jesus/Isa/Isho/Yeshu(a) means that he was the son of G'd is definitely disputable. Either way, please continue these conversations -Dr- Seales. Just putting that out there btw! I see a dissertation coming.

[@queencherie]

“I know you serve an on time God, but are you an on time man” 📝

[@e.mwenda6501]

My mind is healing from the cognitive dissonance; because FINALLY the two worlds are meeting in this episode.

[@walklikenaomi2238]

As a Christian and lover of Jesus Christ I think this was an amazing conversation ❤ I love the level of intellect and it made me want to go and educate myself more.

[@tanishawilliams7495]

Mark‬ ‭1:15‬ ‭ and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

[@ketket0725]

Aside from Kirk’s attempts at flirting, I really enjoyed this conversation. When Kirk started breaking down how Jesus awakened a movement that stood for the equality and freedom of ALL people and Amanda pointed out that this is what threatened the political leaders at the time…CHILLS. Faith is really all about connecting to the divine within all of us, taking care od each other, and fighting for each other. I want to join Amandaverse! Thank you Amanda 🙏🏾🤎

[@TheeBrandonCarter211]

The flirting came off hella weird lol like creepy uncle that u just ignore 😂

[@ketket0725]

@@TheeBrandonCarter211yes it did 🥴 I’m really glad she checked him

[@hangwithrichierich]

Heavy on CRINGE

[@tanikakeys3260]

BIG flirting! "Sir, pump the brakes!" 😂

[@Rg11195]

Y’all clearly don’t get his humor…

[@orlenecharles6590]

Great conversation. Jesus doesn't need a PR person. He's God!! But Christians just need to do the right thing, be loud about it, and stop the foolishness...stop trying to blend in. Amanda is right! Real Christianity needs to be out there!!!

[@Noise_floorxx]

He does. Clearly. Less and less people subscribe to Christianity because…Christians. Period.

[@TokzanTee1]

My face is still stuck in a cringe from when he said “very powerful and very sexy,” and continued to double down even after she said she didn’t wanna hear that lol 😂 😬

[@nickyr3860]

❤❤Yoo I’m glad Kirk said the western christianity practiced today is NOT what they practiced in early christianity. Imma need a Pt.2 about the the non-Biblical beliefs of hell & the rapture and how they have psychologically traumatized Black ppl for generations after slavery.

[@FrankcoOffice-ot3ew]

The sad part about all the this is I'm watching How Christians are being scared and how they are dancing around questions now and how they are not standing up for what is right and what is wrong. I'm not saying everything he said was wrong but the most important things I noticed He was scared and dancing around and it hurts my heart to see how Christians have fallen away and are scared to stand on the truth. This truly hurts

[@EbonyStories]

I’m only at the intro, 4 minutes in right now and I’m hollering. “I don’t want to hear that!” Love Amanda’s authenticity.

[@Scoutbq1l]

we have LOW expectations of our men. He straight flirting lickin his lips and he has a wife.

[@stephaniemacklin4162]

Yes...I am uncomfortable listening to him flirt with her like this. Just because it is out in the open doesn't make it innocent. He needed to check himself. I am glad she rebuffed him privately and publicly.

[@simonsez1787]

She was mad uncomfortable, I was embarrassed. Kirk definitely overstepped and I am a big fan, but bruh…

[@natt811]

"Having faith is like having Wi-Fi you can always connect to, and so that's why you always gotta pay the bill. It can't just be something you turn on when you need it."- Amanda Seales

[@YouKnowDOMO]

I Need A Part 2, 3 & 4 To This Conversation Because It’s Sooo Vital To Have Expressed Intellectual Thought Processes Like These That Are Rooted In Love & The Betterment Of Our People! This Is Gooood!

[@francisw3456]

Same! Such a GREAT convo!

[@MaxineShaw_84]

Patriarchy and religion back-to-back. This my kinda carryin' on. 😌

[@spiritualbridger]

Listeeeeeen 😅

[@ketsial5669]

Nah frfr 👏🏾

[@maygonzalez989]

Boop❤

[@lolamalana]

You said it perfectly!!!

[@gpionav79]

Folk just flying over the awkwardness at 4:12

[@darkysantelises7179]

Can we get Tim Ross on the show? Great episode 🔥

[@RoyalMasterpiece]

Yo go Amanda! He is iconic and legendary. Grammy Award winning, too. He deserves his flowers. ❤

[@sequencestar-us1mm]

I am speechless. This interview deserves an award

[@indielightly3308]

Ya i noticed that too, I felt uncomfortable for her although she can definately handle her own . When he said that her approach to chastizing his tardiness was sexy... I was like .. wait the topic is faith right?? And he's married and moved past an addiction to porn correct? What's happening right now??? Lol

[@gingerwilliams8449]

Loved this! Every Christian church should welcome all people. So true. “You have to reveal to heal” is a much needed message.

[@tanishawilliams7495]

Mark‬ ‭1:15‬ ‭ and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

[@jonmack2437]

Every Christian church does

[@everythingalyb]

Kirk is my fave and I love all of his interviews…whether he’s being artist Kirk, funny Kirk, vulnerable Kirk…but I think theologian/historian Kirk may be my fave! This was so good! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@kohby784]

Amanda and Kirk, I LOVE this real, deep, conversation. I would love more of this conversation with y'all

[@MindEmancipationist]

I'm glad so many people are waking up, decolonizing their minds, and deconstructing religion (tearing down religious narratives). Everything doesn't happen for a reason, and to claim every twist of fate to have some profound meaning, particularly those rooted in poverty, oppression, and injustice, is dangerous, problematic, and a contradiction. It's this kind of thinking that blinds people to systemic issues, impedes empathy, fuels unfair judgments, and contributes to the harmful actions we see all around us.

[@Tobstar76]

This is the most balanced, radically honest conversation about religion and faith I have witnessed. I couldn't imagined a better guest to speak on it. Thank you!❤❤

[@qtipp81]

Always loved Kirk. But every interview makes me love and see him in a new way.

[@tashas9531]

Cringe aside, I really enjoyed this conversation. Amanda's questions were thoughtful, as they always are, and I loved his response. Just incredible and well done! I'm going to mosey on down to the Patreon and watch the rest of it!

[@theservicemaiden]

Amanda is giving Queen of Sheeba vibes here lol 😅 I love it so much because the questions that were asked are very commom concerns and feelings from non christians. We got to the nitty gritty of things and Kirk answered them very well.

[@rhondarosoboro7874]

Amanda. When Kirk stopped you to mention your {magical} nuance. Whew! That made me tear up. What a wonderful interview.

[@DH-uw3us]

I thought you touched on the faith topic when you interviewed Tabitha Brown. I think it would be interesting to hear a roundtable of Black spiritual leaders (not just Christians) and their points of view on this topic. I was a devout believer my whole life until I hit 30 and started questioning everything. I think faith in the Black community is a conversation worth having because we don't all believe the same thing for various reasons. I think we can all learn from each other.

[@greyescale]

I second this, and request juju to be included!

[@MsButtaP44]

TOTALLY AGREE

[@tamarwilliams4516]

Agreed!

[@monalisa27826]

This was a good 1. I would love to see/hear Amanda in conversation with Jackie Hill Perry.

[@staceyculbertson6784]

Facts.

[@sebastianjordan695]

In this 21st century world of podcasting where words are cheap and opinions are baseless, this conversation was truly refreshing. Thank you to you both for being respectful towards each other while keeping to your beliefs.

[@JBrazill09]

Well said and totally agree.

[@Learningisfree808]

I’m not religious but I’m spiritual this episode spoke to me and my relationship with “the church”. Thank you Amanda.

[@benadek6703]

Spiritual in what sense ?

[@Learningisfree808]

@@benadek6703 that I believe something created us all living beings and organisms. Was it a white man named Jesus that was born to a mother that was a virgin? No.

[@benadek6703]

@@Learningisfree808 Jesus is and never was white .

[@benadek6703]

@@Learningisfree808Jesus wasn’t white and he was.born of a virgin mother . Reason why I ask is that there are different spirits out their so be careful in the spirituality aspect of being one

[@DonBrownII]

the gospel, and the origins of the gospel certainly needs to be discussed in length and in truth. It doesn't happen enough. I appreciate Kirk's message. We have to speak up against that use the Christian faith to harm others, and misuse the faith.

[@toricoltori]

I am a Christian and this conversation was very much needed.

[@tuamiga_carmela]

i absolutely loved this conversation as i have been currently having this conversation with a friend of mine who is a nonbeliever. very much a conversation not debate or argument. but in these conversations with my friend i find myself feeling inadequate when it comes to "citing my sources". i was reminded of that when mr. franklin mentions the academic part of the bible or religion. ive been googling books to read like this but if anyone else could recommend any books on this i would be greatly apprecitative. amanda has such a great mind, i hope she can continue to be shown her flowers

[@katielanellc]

Mannn….this is one of my favorite discussions Amanda. Thank you to you and Kirk Franklin for taking the time to touch on so many important issues concerning faith, religion, spirituality, and Christianity. 🎯🎯💯💯🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@corettawells567]

I loved this whole vibe.... I felt like I was around two of the most intellectual people on earth ❤❤

[@Flourish.Ministries]

Therapy and God is an amazing combo. Therapy is good, you just need the right therapist.

[@tula_tracey]

*The most impressive thing is honesty* = pure facts

[@kaywandalamb8548]

I love the conversation. So good. I’m also grateful that you all were able to talk about historical context, western context, culture. Amanda, you can sing so beautifully! This was such an amazing conversation. Very respectful. I think based on the comments it resonated with lots of folks.

[@erikclark5421]

Church Lady Realness....... amanda is giving it today

[@Wasilagiwa]

This was the most beautiful dopest conversation with 2 great minds!

[@sportysmith123]

I’ve been excited about this interview since Amanda posted about it on her instagram and I’ve been patiently waiting. Thank you Amanda for this interview.

[@stefaniewalters4384]

I loved this conversation. Awesome Amanda, awesome! And no Kirk wasn't creepy, his comedy just didn't comedy! 🤷🏾‍♀️😂 we give him grace tho, a brother complimenting a sister in his weird way was harmless. Kirk is a very kind soul, he would never disrespect Amanda. ❤

[@DH-uw3us]

He was definitely creepy and cringe to me as I listened to this as a podcast. He's always been a controversial figure, and that's clearly not changing anytime soon.

[@stefaniewalters4384]

@@DH-uw3us well I give him grace, he wasn't creepy to me. But hey 🤷🏾‍♀️ thats your opinion.

[@simonsez1787]

@@stefaniewalters4384he wasn’t “creepy” but the sexy comment was out of order. I say this as a fan of his. But sometimes you gotta be like, c’mon naa.

[@jayt4886]

I think that Amanda and Kirk have had conversations that we don’t know about which is why they have that level of comfortability with each other. Kirk, was teaching! We definitely need a part 2.

[@rhondaroberts7275]

I totally enjoyed this conversation. Their dialogue was very informative and thought-provoking based on how people need to respond based on their individual walks with their religious and/or spiritual walks. I liked their chemistry. Amanda stood in her beliefs and asked great questions and sought clarification when warranted to delve deeper to make his responses make sense from different perspectives. The comments about his behavior are representative of many things of what's wrong with our society as a whole. We've become so judgemental, assumptive, and disrespectful with double standards perceptions. Kirk's attempts at humor fell flat sometimes 😂. I do not perceive any ill-will that is being communicated in these comments. I will leave it at that. I am hoping Amanda or staff will read all comments and offer her opinion based on the overall interaction.

[@Steezy513]

Very refreshing , I'd imagine he cant talk to many people on this level about these things, great show.

[@keshacovington3297]

This was like the perfect feast I’m conversation form. I absolutely LOVED the questions presented and Kirk Franklins response let us know that he does his research. Great great convo and it flowed effortlessly ❤

[@AaronMaybinArt]

An amazing and very necessary conversation. Thank y’all both for standing 10 toes down and putting it out there. This was great

[@KaneishaWoods]

I could listen to another 3 hours of this! Such a good convo ❤️

[@magharry10]

Please a Part II Amanda!!

[@2zai207i]

Interesting conversation, thanks for the discussion Amanda!

[@spiritualbridger]

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾This is going to be phenomenal

[@chillwithash]

I would love to hear a perspective about how some pastors speak so passionately against the LGBTQIA+ community, while wearing clothes by gay designers. I struggle with the hypocrisy of humanity every day, but it draws me to listening to God more closely for myself.

[@heyheyNow]

Wonderful question ❤

[@ladonnaholley8186]

I simply love the conversations you take on. And this one right here 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽.

[@HealthyhaircoloristBri]

Great conversation! Loved this!

[@JoLewis-rx7sb]

It is NOT appropriate to say to someone not your wife that she is sexy in anyway, shape or form. Then ask her out for conversation. Amanda understands what's appropriate MORE than he does, so sad.

[@catregime]

Agreed, that was gross.

[@DH-uw3us]

Especially in the #MeToo era we're in now.

[@ShannonSparks-x7h]

He asked her out before their conversation to make up for being late. He most likely got caught up in the conversation and it came out unfortunately while they were filming. 😄 - He's human. My husband got "caught up" once while we were at a party. He was crushing HARD on a woman there. Was all giddy. I was like, "oh my" It was innocent. I let him have his crush moment and he did! Amanda definitely knew how to keep it PROFESSIONAL. Sometimes people flesh act out. She got him right and kept it moving. Being married don't stop you from being human, imo.

[@JoLewis-rx7sb]

@@ShannonSparks-x7h Women aren't allowed that luxury. If his wife kept talking about how attractive someone is and asking him out for conversation, he wouldn't have it.

[@CaseyLamah]

A LOT of us Millennials who stepped down from Ministry NEEDED this conversation

[@zerandrianmorris]

I’m profoundly turned off by the beginning. Ewww Kirk. His ego was bruised by being challenged around his tardiness and instead of simply saying I apologize, he brought it to the show then was on some sexualization. Sir. I’m sorry you had to experience that and I’m glad you kept it in so the world can see. UPDATE: This energy from him is cringe. I ain’t gon make it. 🥲

[@catregime]

Absolutely….so yuck.

[@MaxineShaw_84]

Damn. I entered the live chat just a touch late and didn't see that part until now. The game *too many* men play when they feel you've been _difficult_ 🙄 is to make a pass in order to set you off so everybody else can focus on your reaction instead of their transgression. I don't know how Tammy is still in it because ain't enough money & status for you to continue embarrassing me all over the place.

[@alove1996]

It's such a shame that playful comments take precedence over the truth of the Gospel.

[@MsMak03]

Listen 🫠🫠 I’m 20 mins in wondering if ima make it myself

[@reythomas9215]

@@alove1996 Such a shame

[@rubynovel]

Nailed that Preacher's Daughter Look Ms. Seals❤😂🎉😅

[@Carvalhouk]

Wow! kudos to Amanda for having such a wide range of conversations with her guests. Come on, we got an insight into Palestine, conversations about law and voting etc.

[@MissLexiBee]

This is such an incredible conversation. Sis Debra you did the damn thang girl. I’ve never seen this side of Kirk. Hella refreshing

[@stephanieg460]

Thank you for this conversation Kirk is always silly but I always appreciate when he speaks honestly from his heart without having to discuss his personal life. I respect the fact that he can articulate his believes thank you both for this honest conversation. 💜🫂

[@nicolerobison1254]

Amanda I’m not new to you but newer to your podcast. You don’t miss sis. I love that you are you no matter what. PS. Kirk was being fresh!!!!

[@maygonzalez989]

Damn this was good. Amanda, you are stonger than me. I’m a recoverjng christian and i am not stong to talk God anytime soon. Love that yall can see different and talk. Love Kirk and Amanda❤

[@teach1nation]

😂 I love how Kirk is fan girling over Amanda

[@Superstar3885]

Ok. I started out on the podcast and immediately came over here after a few minutes because Kirk creeped me out. And I’m a huge Kirk Franklin fan. I had to see Amanda’s face!!! Settling in to watch

[@crystal-pupa]

Amanda youre literally the BEST

[@kristimcdowell6922]

I love this conversation! Kirk is the best for this conversation!

[@travonpclifton]

I know more of Kirk's public journey of faith than I do of Amanda's and I found this entire conversation refreshing because there was no attacking each other for having opposing beliefs. Btw, the book Kirk referenced is called "How Africa Shaped The Christian Mind" by Thomas C. Oden. Never heard of it so thank you for mentioning it. (Kirk's comment at 4:13 was a little cringy for me, but Amanda rolled with it and kept the conversation moving.)

[@ratheenomad]

No surprise, great conversation. Amanda, honesty is your friend, and she serves you well! This discussion brought two questions to mind: As a former Christian who now identifies as spiritual, is it possible for individuals to be a “church” within their own orbit because of the nature of non religious, yet uplifting fellowship they engage in? Like having a bond because of their common spiritual perspectives and shared values of decency and order. Also, is it fair to say that spiritual people are sorta aligned with the beliefs of Martin Luther? Like, I feel a divine connection but I don’t identify with religion.

[@ketket0725]

That’s exactly how I’ve been feeling and wondering

[@kimberlyhudsoncpa5103]

❤🔥🔥 I've seen several of his interviews lately and this was my favorite one! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@kaihenderson-kimble7389]

When have you all EVER known Amanda to not check someone if she felt offended? This is her podcast. Why would she even have aired it? Kirk was joking and trying to be apologetic, and it was awkward at some points true. But Amanda, don't play that shit period! I can understand how people can be looking with side eyes at men associated with the church due to what is in the blogs, rightfully so....but let's not jump to conclusions about what we think we see here. This is a great conversation on religion and Christianity. I took away there needs to be a deconstruction of western Christianity, I totally agree! So many people are leaving what we know as the traditional church due to it not connecting with where people are now. Bishop Carlton Pearson tried to deconstruct it before he passed.....I am discovering many trailblazers out there like him.

[@TheAmandaSeales]

He was outta pocket and I managed it. That's the homie and also, it was offensive and it was annoying. I checked him and kept it moving but that doesn't discount what people are feeling.

[@kaihenderson-kimble7389]

Hello Amanda.....thank you for confirming this. Dually noted. I stand corrected. Apologies for coming across as if I was discounting any of your fans because I am one. I figured because it was posted, all was good. That saddens me that you felt uncomfortable on your own pod. Really saddens me. I am hoping there was an apology from him you were satisfied with....Lastly, it's ironic to speak on this, see this, and be on the deconstruction path myself....it just reminds me why I am on it in the first place.

[@loveshine04]

Amanda, I appreciate you going here.. we need more of this. Would love to see Dontell on your couch.

[@iammeallday]

This break down and study and historical context is awesome we don't talk about Christianity as open and respectfully as this

[@mrssarahcoe]

Really appreciate conversations like this.

[@Kimlloy]

So glad I decided to tune in. I’ve had a neg opinion of Christians and Christianity due to the judgement and dismissiveness I experienced as a Buddhist in childhood from some fam and friends. I often got “oh you not saved?” when I told them I practiced Buddhism. And I always asked “Saved from what?” Enjoyed this convo and both perspectives. Curious how Christianity in the time of Jesus is different than it is now. Hopefully there’s a Part 2.

[@classactlady]

That was amazing - as Christian the realness and transparency was on point! Love you both ❤

[@clayfilms1]

Thank you for this honest and frank conversation.

[@jamiejohnson9732]

I loved this very intelligent conversation ! Great episode . Thank you 😊

[@YvonnePierre]

This was amazing. I'm going to have to watch it again because I missed parts because I was distracted. Great conversation. 💖✨

[@simplyphillipbrown]

Love Kirk Franklin. I really enjoyed this show!

[@MelaninManTravels]

Bottom line: Kirk, in his humanity, lived out I Pet 3:15. This is how you share your faith. I am one who left the church years ago, after living under the hypocrisy (both a victim and victimizer of the faith) and have no desire to return. However, the nuggets that Kirk dropped were great and his concession on the facts of Western Christianity's failure to the world and Jesus are appreciated. We need more of this. AND please don't respond with any verses or notes trying to convince me of anything. Christ died for me! The Holy Spirit lives in my heart. And as Kirk taught/reminded us of some words from Martin Luther, I don't need man to get to God. God called me to Himself. Thanks Amanda!

[@kindlecornett8254]

I love love the topics brought up and will definitely be looking into Kirk franklins schools of thought towards ideology and challenging traditional religious practices. But I kind of thought it was a lot that he kept bringing up having dinner with her or overcomplimenting her…not because it isn’t totally true that she’s this amazing woman, but because she didn’t really respond and when she did she was like “cool thank you, let’s move on” to hurry things along or stay on topic

[@shannonpatrice8358]

There difference is the definitions of belief, faith and facts in or aboutanything... and too many times people act on belief as if its facts and vice-versa its so simple yet so complicated

[@francisw3456]

THIS is why i fux w/Kirk! Amanda this was sooooooo good, the questions are everything!!❤

[@Bella_M26]

This was a great episode! Such a great conversation. 🙌🏾 I wholeheartedly believe that the real Christianity will be ignited moving forward! Thank you Amanda 💕

[@AtiaBasha.]

Amanda has done it again! Great episodes

[@zsoleyn]

I loved this episode most open dialogue I needed to see this today

[@samanthapauling7550]

Great conversation. Great vibes. So real on both sides. Loved everything about it!

[@simonejdevone]

A healthy conversation that we did not know we needed 🤎

[@inezaponte3493]

Part 2! That is a strong statement! May the 4th be with you too!

[@frenchantonio1]

I love how Amanda NEVER pulls punches bro.

[@IamRochelleRobertson]

Loved this episode. Signing up to the Amandaverse now!

[@TheAmandaSeales]

Thank you!

[@cj10109]

Kirk low key has a crush lol 😻 I love this conversation of religion and race. This country is always using Christianity as a platform. It’s not working… all I believe is God is love.

[@AnthonyBanksCountertenor]

Who wouldn’t! Amanda is a WOMAN!!!

[@ebonyr.b.1216]

I immediately clicked on this one. Glad to see him on here. Ima wait to watch the interview he did with Shannon one.

[@CM-jn3wp]

I take things literally too.😮

[@garnercleo8182]

I’m ready for this one!!

[@iammeallday]

This is the conversation!!!

[@HHCF713]

Wonderful and intelligent conversation! Thank you!

[@MrNoVimBr]

Yes Kirk you are a legend! Great episode Amanda and team, a needed conversation!!!