Sidecar Manufacturing at Motorvation Engineering ends! See Description box, as all is not lost.

[@Gfthce3426]

Thank you, really glad I found your video

[@NightFlyyer]

Your welcome. Make sure to see the video notes.

[@NightFlyyer]

* Update: Sadly, Mary the owner, has passed and Motorvation is now permanently closed. But, Gary the Engineer, is still building Sidecars for Midwest Sidecars as they call it now, a division of the Short and Tall Body shop here in Sibley, Iowa. Midwest Sidecars and Trailers C/O Short and Tall body shop 1114 industrial drive, Sibley, IA 51249 Phone: [phone] Thanks for watching folks. Contact info is also in the video description box.

[@iamrichrocker]

good to see small town small business doing quality work...we need more support for our small businesses....thanks Dave..great change of pace..

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks very kindly. I appreciate that! 🍀

[@MrEye4get]

The red HD and sidecar are beautiful!

[@shankill178]

Beautiful bikes Dave. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I know by the smile on your face that you enjoyed making it. Keep well.

[@NightFlyyer]

It made me feel young again and was fun for sure. Thanks kindly Sam.

[@bobobrien6755]

Enjoyed this video. I recently bought a thirty-eight year old BMWR100with a Spyder attached. I'm taking learning how to use it very seriously...

[@NightFlyyer]

Fabulous. Thank you.

[@derekpirie9188]

Nice to see that Sidecars being built and the tradition of "one on the side", continuing. I visited the Watsonian Squire Sidecar "Outfit" last year during my Visit to England. I own four Combinations. My oldest is a 1922 B.S.A. , 1943 B.S.A. , 1942 1200 Harley-Davidson and my modern a Moto Guzzi with Squire Sidecar.

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. Ride easy.

[@bertmonroe2605]

About time someone made a vid on sidecar sad story but somehow sometimes good things happen to l bought a sidecar for my military royal enfield because of my back issues it just works for me thanks for vid loved it

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks very kindly. That Royal Enfield is a great bike. Ride Easy!

[@rx72nr]

Awesome video! I ended up having DMC build my first sidecar as I live just 45 minutes from them. I got my three wheel endorsement this year and can’t wait to hone my skills.

[@NightFlyyer]

Gary gives good riding tips as well as me, so good luck, and since your so close you can always stop by their shop at Midwest Sidecars. Thanks kindly and happy riding.

[@kerrysnider442]

Great to see ya ride again. I've got an 02' 1800 goldwing and I just love it. I pull a roll-a-home pop up tent trailer with it and carry my rc helis to fun flies. It's great combining two hobbies together

[@NightFlyyer]

That's great Kerry. Glad to hear from another rc'er that is also a wingnut!! Thanks much!

[@baltsosser]

The way that windshield looks at 5:52 is pretty sweet.

[@Granite]

Never had a chance to get into motorcycles but I enjoyed my dirt bike as a teenager. If I did not have my Torino to take up my project time I would probably end up building a bike or street cart to accommodate my chair. Great video.

[@NightFlyyer]

Great. Well if you ever do they have made many sidecars that do accommodate chairs. Thanks for the comments. Be well!

[@budeee]

Have mine for about a year now very happy with it nice people

[@NightFlyyer]

Glad you hear that. Thank you much!

[@overthehill1958]

Love that Honda 175. Great video Dave.

[@NightFlyyer]

That was a great bike for sure. Thanks much.

[@kevinsmith8328]

Enjoyed this vid. Thanks

[@NightFlyyer]

Thank you as well.

[@robertbeckett2527]

I got to meet Mary Gary and Casey. Back in 2019. They helped me work on and old 1985 Sidecar. I really appreciate them and wish the shop was still open. If anyone knows how I can get ahold of Gary. Please let me know. I would like to get the same side car hooked up properly to my wife's bike.

[@NightFlyyer]

Gary is here in Sibley and still making sidecars. The company is called Midwest Sidecars and he works out of a body shop called Short and Tall. I will see him tomorrow as he comes buy to pick up Adams Polishes from me usually once a week. I will tell him about this post. Here is the address and phone number. Short and Tall, 1114 Industrial Drive (0.91 mi) Sibley, IA, IA 51249 [phone]

[@carlarthur4442]

They look great if you like bikes it's a way you can ride all year round if you like great bikes side cars and love the video.

[@NightFlyyer]

Not so much here in Iowa during the winter, but when I lived in California, I drove may years with my sidecar year round. Too bad this company is now in Bankruptcy and up for sale.

[@carlarthur4442]

NightFlyyer that's sad to hear that such talent and hard working people come too the end of the road through financial difficulties. Yes winter throws up to many problems so wouldn't be very practical, best wishes to all from England U K .

[@NightFlyyer]

@@carlarthur4442 Thanks much.

[@alexnovique1718]

Awesome. Very useful information. So many options. 😣

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks Alex!

[@josephwhite2588]

great video dave. you should do more local businesses. I remember when we roofed your house you had your quad flying around.

[@NightFlyyer]

Thank you Joseph. Too bad all that work on the roof went up in smoke last year. I appreciate your comments. 👍

[@backsplashgarage4481]

I would love to do that with my Sportster .

[@NightFlyyer]

Right on. Well, Check out Midwest Sidecars and you could be on the list and riding in the spring. Thanks.

[@PatrickJDaley]

I talked to Mary about a sidecar for my H-D FLSTS a few years ago. Would have loved to have one. Just hasn't been in the budget 😕. I had a 70+ old feller teach me how to ride a sidecar when I was young, mid 20's. Am now 56 and still want one! Perhaps one day! Still have the Springer, '98 Heritage Springer in 95th anniversary colors..... I am the original owner.

[@NightFlyyer]

That is a great story. Sadly, Mary the owner, has passed and Motorvation is now permanently closed. But, Gary the Engineer, is still building Sidecars for Midwest Sidecars as they call it now, a division of the Short and Tall Body shop here in Sibley, Iowa. Midwest Sidecars and Trailers C/O Short and Tall body shop 1114 industrial drive, Sibley, IA 51249 Phone: [phone] Thanks for commenting and ride easy.

[@PatrickJDaley]

@@NightFlyyer I am saddened to learn of Mary's passing.

[@NightFlyyer]

@@PatrickJDaley Thanks much.

[@scottastell9415]

Good quality sidecars.

[@donnamasonbrown4119]

I've been watching a lot of video with the sidecar motorcycles, I really want one now. Do you know where to buy these now. Awesome job with video. God bless you always. 💖 from texas

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, This is the place. Motorvation in Sibley. They make the best and strongest custom sidecars, much better than the cheap Chinese models. Their phone number is in the video description box and they can give you a quote. Tell them you saw the video. Happy riding and thanks for the comments. ~Dave

[@westmc45]

get a Ural

[@NightFlyyer]

@@westmc45 Haha. Top speed of Ural is only 45 mph.

[@gungfuriceboy]

Awesome Company!! Excellent 'Side Cars'! That Red 1200 Harley Sportster...2 thumbs UP!! ..Any chance of your company 'getting into'...hardware ...that attaches too motorcycle...that 'LEAN's' with the BIKE?? Cheers !

[@NightFlyyer]

It was a great company. Equalean and articulated side cars were cool, but not sure anyone is now making them. Sadly this company has filed for Bankruptcy and may be doomed, do to current world situations. Thanks kindly for the comments.

[@SilverShadow2LWB]

Excellent video, storyline, and content. But I do think it is poor judgement that nobody is wearing helmets or protective gear especially on new unfamiliar rides. We just had four fatalities this past weekend with two bikes that met head-on. Always be safe.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes, I ride my Goldwing with a helmet all the time and my wife rides her Shadow with a Helmet. Were in our 70s, so know the dangers. There is no helmet requirement here and I and Gary have been riding sidecars for many many years, so they are not unfamiliar. I know about the Marines killed too. They all had helmets on, so nothing is 100%. We don't have the traffic here in NW Iowa like we had when I lived and rode in California, but I only did this to make a video, not the norm for us. Thanks.

[@SoCal780]

So when are you getting yours?? 😀 That was awesome! Very interesting indeed. I did not realize that so much went into the manufacturing of these sidecars. They all seem like really nice people too. My favorite scene was you saying “yessaahh, ha! ha! HAAH!” as you took off in one! Lol!🤣 Priceless!

[@NightFlyyer]

Haha! I don't have anyone to ride in one anymore since my wife has her own bike, but they are nice for sure. They are all great people. Thanks Scott!

[@edwardjones8170]

Great video. I just got an old Motorvation Coupe Royale and am attaching it to my 1987 GL1200A. Do you know of a source for original/NOS mounting Hardware? I need two 1-1/4in U-Clamps with the 1/2in I-bolt and hole, and a long strut with the 3/4" 16TPi treads on one end and yoke on the other. I've found some CSC HW that will work but I'd love to get some OE stuff. Thanks!

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks. I can check and see if I can get an answer.

[@garygreene8644]

Edward I have or can get almost all the motorvation parts you need send me your contact info [e-mail] Gary Greene Sibley Iowa

[@lesterbivins8276]

I have a 1980 motorvation on my 2010 ultra classic harley it is great just needs new paint

[@NightFlyyer]

Great to hear. Motorvation is now closed, but the mechanic Gary Greene is a good friend, so I think if you ever need help, he still can. Here is a recent video we just made of him with his VW powered Amazonas you might like. Ride easy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6asaaCVatWSrtk

[@trevorzzealley2670]

What is the standard lean angle ? I didn`t catch that even with a replay . I thought it might be 2 degrees outward lean? I loved the video . Sidecars are so stable once your got the feel .

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes. Well I have to ask. The lean angle is set to zero with someone inside it, usually 180 lbs. We usually adjust them depending on the load. Also the angle of tow in is about 2 degrees. Ill ask Gary the mechanic to answer you, soon as I see him. This company is not out of business, but may be starting up again soon with a new name. Thanks.

[@n4zou]

It depends on the camber of the roads in your area. Road camber is the amount of drop of the road from the center of the road to the outside edge of the road. Road's are not flat, they are at a slight angle to allow rain to flow off the road. Areas with high rainfall will have a greater camber than areas with limited rainfall. When lean out is set correctly the motorcycle will be perfectly upright while the sidecar is riding lower than when it's sitting on a perfectly level surface. That's why your sidecar motorcycle rides differently and pulls to the left constantly when in the left lane on a 4 lane highway. The road camber is backwards in that lane from the right lane. When I set up a sidecar I place 3/4 inch plywood under the motorcycle tires to simulate road camber because I measured the average road camber and found the drop was 3/4 inches in 5 feet. Then I simply level the motorcycle using the struts and a level tied to the rear tire. You can check the average camber in your area with a straight 5 foot 2x4 with a level attached to it. When no traffic is around place the board on the pavement, lift the right side of the board until the bubble shows level, and measure the gap between the board and road surface. Now you know the width of wood to place under the motorcycle tires.

[@baltsosser]

Those are nice looking rigs.

[@NightFlyyer]

Yes. Sadly they are now in Bankruptcy due to Corona Virus.

[@graymanbad398]

Nice video

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks much. It is now closed and under a new name, called Midwest Side cars.

[@graymanbad398]

Thanks for the info 👍

[@063317Art]

Cubic feet tells me capacity but does not tell me the length, width and height. I am still searching for this info of motorcycle trailers

[@NightFlyyer]

I don't know the answer to that. Just give them a call.

[@danogle9927]

EXCELLENT !!

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly!

[@ravensburgpiet]

Nice one Dave !

[@NightFlyyer]

Thanks much, Pieter!

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

I would give my dog 🐕 a ride but then who would be guarding the house 🏠?

[@NightFlyyer]

Haha. Well I gave my St Bernard many rides in mine back in the 70's, and made my wife guard the house. LOL

[@scottfirman]

I miss my Honda Nighthawk 650. I saw it for sale again last summer. The guy that bought it from me never got it fixed. I thought about buying it back from him but the wife gave me " The look" So I ordered another RC Plane instead. I just got Horizons new Blade 230sv2 in the mail about a week ago. I havent had a chance to fly it yet...rain. I had someone offer to sell me their Nitro Heli. Its a Hibro I believe. Something like that. I know a guy at our RC club that could help me get into it and learn it.

[@NightFlyyer]

Night Hawks were good. Thanks.

[@boingkster]

Never give up your passions. I had a discussion with my wife that because I'm a bit of a gearhead I would have a 3 vehicle limit - any more than that and I find it hard to use and maintian them enough anyway. One of that three is my Honda XR650R - a great dirt/street combo. Have a good chat with your wife, if she understands how important it is to you she might change her mind.

[@dangcandy1]

So I read somewhere that some sidecars aren't meant for going over 45mph. Can anyone point me towards more information

[@NightFlyyer]

The Russian Ural could only go 45 MPH. That was it's top speed, but not limited by the side car. I drove my home made side car daily to work for 12 years at 70 mph on the California Freeways and modern sidecars can do the same very safely.

[@westmc45]

watch this guy he shows you that a Ural can go a a nice crushing he has lots more videos about the Ural kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5aciqaAg651fqc

[@n4zou]

I have the military version of the Ural. It's a Dnepr MT-11. It's top speed is 45 mph but not due to the sidecar. The limiting factor is the gearing. Back in the Soviet Union days sidecar motorcycles were the family car and truck. You could put the entire family on one or haul large loads. I have a Honda VLX Shadow 600cc with a Velorex 562 sidecar. I can easily run 70 MPH on it without feeling like it's unsafe to do that.

[@laryangel4082]

Hj

[@emelen123jamesula2]

Not Very modern styles

[@NightFlyyer]

I did not put any pictures in of their modern cars, because they had none there at the time. They are now closed and out of business, due to current situation. The place is for sale. Maybe you could buy it.

[@emelen123jamesula2]

@@NightFlyyer Im stuck in Philippines in corona lockdown. I'm 3 months late from returning to Canada. I am surprised if the state gov or fed gov is not helping companies stay afloat. My fed gov is giving working families 500 per week to stay away from bankruptcy. Not retired folk like me. I am missing Canada a lot.

[@emelen123jamesula2]

@@NightFlyyer what do you think the company is worth?

[@NightFlyyer]

@@emelen123jamesula2 I will ask the shop foreman and see if he will respond to you about that, as I do not know.