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@bsways2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to figure out how to get a longer visa so I can travel for a 3 - 6 months but not having much luck with the convoluted confusing system. What’s the best visa for me?
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Think the ill named 'STV' visa is still in place (?) which grants 90 days +extension. But best check with your local Thai Embassy (or website).
@jackiephi63102 жыл бұрын
I love the comments you put across the bottom it helps me I can pause the video and write stuff down thank you very much I also love that there is no crap music I tend to enjoy the same music you do thank you again
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jackie. STL
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
to the viewer who cursed at me in a comment insinuating I don't like his music thus people, I approved your comment but it looks like it's being ghosted by YT, not me (I didn't mind but probably for cursing I guess). Anyways will paste my response below as it doesn't appear either: Lol. Actually, LOVE old school rap, before it became mostly grown men (black&white) mainly bragging about themselves ala 'imma biggest imma baddest' blah blah.... zzzz ... yawn.... (sorry;) PS: also mentioned not a fan of soppy pop music.... (uh-oh, in trouble again lol;) btw, my fav all time rap tune: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6vKc3dorN6mq6s peace, STL
@MrDynamicMedia2 жыл бұрын
Oh mate That is truly complete an utter total paradise! Thanks for making a video that keeps me working harder so I can come for six weeks of Christmas!
@barbet85 Жыл бұрын
Working on retirement in Thailand with my very dear friend, this place looks like paradise.
@mikejohnson2638 Жыл бұрын
What you see in the video and what is reality are very, very different. You'll be bored out of your mind in less than a month.
@BIGJED752 жыл бұрын
Fantastic little place, amazing what a little cleaning and a few extras do for a room. The power board is one of my favourite travel hacks, that and never trust a fart.......
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Sage travel advice right there lol
@kevinthailand25672 жыл бұрын
I have been living in Chiang Mai and visiting Koh Chang for years. Great to see it coming back to life. And you visit places I have not been which encourages me to go visit them too. Thanks eh. Kevin from Oakville, Ontario
@tedrick4713 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Just enough people to keep things interesting. Prices are great.
@dabronks87892 жыл бұрын
Cheers from Brampton Ontario. I love the unique places you find with price considerations, just beautiful. I hope to get to Thailand God willing, great channel by the way, live long and prosper young man.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
@dabronks hello in Brampton and what a nice surprise! My 1st ever 'super thanks' contributor. You Tube said they added this feature but here in Thailand I can't see it and wondered if it really existed? Apparently yes! Much appreciated, STL (and may you get to Thailand soon:) PS: as my Canucks are already on the back 9 yet again, GO LEAFS!
@seffski7902 жыл бұрын
Hey, how do u tip?
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
@Seffski Just watching is thanks enough but for tips KZbin has also added a 'super thanks' which appears beside the like/subscribe area etc (but apparently it's not available in all countries). So if the box isn't appearing and any would still like to tip (not expected but greatly appreciated) I also have a Tip Jar, here: bit.ly/3Le6Ex8 Cheers, STL
@atiamuri1012 жыл бұрын
I love everything about your vlogs mate.dont change anything.i love your come along with me as i explore style and the cost detail you share.your vlogs are a fantastic resource for anyone intending to travel to thailand in the near future.thank you very much for sharing.p.s.i am very envious🙂
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Atiamuri! STL
@mia.m..2 жыл бұрын
Great tunes and good to see Lonely beach getting some life back, thanks x
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mia. It's quieter during the week but for sure great to see weekends starting to get livelier
@joezip63892 жыл бұрын
Those spots are great, thanks for sharing! Always look forward to your new videos
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe :)
@SouthernSoftie2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I want to experience in Thailand. I’m coming in September, hoping the rains hold of for my visit . 🙏
@terencecoeart2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are spot on. Perfect mix of places to stay , eating and drinking options as well as travel info all with clear pricing details. It all helps us to hit the ground running and save loads of time. Great job. Thanks .
@tej617611 ай бұрын
Its really nice you make a video without any music in the video ( only the music of the bars- cafe´s) and just like it really is. How it would be to walk around there. :-) makes the video really calming and good to watch.
@Finding-Fish2 жыл бұрын
great video i going there based on this video!!! stayed tuned
@yozzfromoz40132 жыл бұрын
Will have to take a trip back to Koh Chang, it has been many years since i was last there and it has really changed a lot, thanks for taking the time to post the videos...
@mattstakes70472 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, STL. Can't wait to get back but will be a while for this traveler. Thanks for all the intel. Look forward to the next vid. Cheers!
@stephenworthington-white82942 жыл бұрын
I spent a lovely week on Lonely beach in 2001 waiting for my India visa to process. Being just a few hours from Bangkok it was easy to get to. So many amazing sunsets. They were just building a place at the end of the beach but otherwise nothing but coconut trees around the rocky shoreline back then. Thanks for the video. Happy Travels from Kamloops
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Great memories! Thanks for sharing from Kamloops (great area too:) STL
@mikejohnson2638 Жыл бұрын
are you from the UK? did you get your Indian visa, any problems?
@mrnobodyinvr9762 Жыл бұрын
YOu're really doing a much bigger thing here than just posting clips of a pretty destination, you're opening the door to life changing adventures to those who dont quite understand how to get there on their own. It's a wonderful thing, and you are really getting me ready to make the jump into my next life adventure. Where do you hang out the most? Are you staying in Thailand right now or elsewhere? How has it been for you with the inter-country travelling? Expensive? Have you found any areas outside of Bangkok that are kind of dangerous?
@sharynclarke840 Жыл бұрын
I visit Ko Chang 30 years ago, it was bungalows on the beach. $2 a night…..
@add83052 жыл бұрын
Another great video STL! You have a great life! Two weeks to go before we arrive in Phuket - can’t wait to be back in Thailand. It’s been almost 3 years. Keep up the good work!
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Add. 2 weeks to go after 3 years waiting? wow! Toes in sand on Phuket is gonna feel GREAT, enjoy! STL
@bobtoner98202 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed witching. Very peaceful. I was stationed in Bangkok in 1969. Fond memories of the Thai people
@allisonking29422 жыл бұрын
Yes we have heard it’s only temporary until the markets are finished being rebuilt. That will be very different carpark underneath and two levels of markets we think.😊 Will be there in February can’t wait to be back. Thanks for showing us around ❤
@robbogsy34692 жыл бұрын
Great video mate,Love watching your videos.Great to see Koh Chang looking abit busy again.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Robbo. KC getting a bit busier on weekends (as in this vid) and for sure great to see
@karltraveldude78172 жыл бұрын
What a great place to chill and have a few beers , " Yaa Mon " LOL . Thank you for sharing , Enjoy ....
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Yaaa Mon, it really was! Thanks Karl :) STL
@nickst-francois81922 жыл бұрын
From one Canadian to an other, great video. Just made it back to Thailand about a month ago, so happy to be back and making a new life here. you got yourself a new subscriber. 🇨🇦🇹🇭
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick ST-Francois (and welcome back eh;) STL
@solsouth2 жыл бұрын
I like your style of videos including prices and reviews on the fly.
@missjae4033 Жыл бұрын
I miss living in Thailand and traveling to all the fun islands there. 💕
@Dave13185 Жыл бұрын
That place looks amazing
@freelancekate89192 жыл бұрын
as usual Great great video. Thanks for such a great informative video
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kate
@legambaz2 жыл бұрын
Envious of your visits to all those bars in your videos lately. I miss those kind of beach bars so very much. And thanks for all the hotel hunting vids. They are absolutely helpful.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alofzico, I absolutely love nosing around a new place, room/hotel hunting and BEST of all, chill beach bars! So my pleasure. STL
@rudyhachey74402 жыл бұрын
wow! so many choices beatiful propteries to chose from. Prices much better than the rent I pay in YYC!! YUK!!! Always enjoy your incredible videos with incredible scenery. R
@carnpatrick2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! Just booked our flights to Thailand for january 2023 and we heading straight to koh chang. Its been on our radar for ages but we havent been able to go to thailand since 2020 😫
@electrotype_ Жыл бұрын
It's very relaxing to watch your videos. Good job!
@SideTripLife Жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@MyBaliAdventures2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here! Absolutely loving your content, the way you interact with locals, speaking a bit of Indo. Truly great! Going to binge watch your videos today. Terima kasih!
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks/makasih!
@MyBaliAdventures2 жыл бұрын
@@SideTripLife sama sama 😊
@scoopingdutchman4325 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the fantastic video. So many years on lonely beach.. I even seeing my appartment. Regards jeff
@SideTripLife Жыл бұрын
Nice one Jeff! You must have some stories and wonderful memories from living on LB :)
@175ahc52 жыл бұрын
A month ago it was dead around Lonely Beach when I was there. Glad you are having a better experience.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Caught it on a weekend so was happy to see a few more folks about
@endyy66712 жыл бұрын
looks gorgeous there, glad to see a cheap/usable gym too!
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Ditto! Always like to find a decent local gym when travelling
@lkm54622 жыл бұрын
Last time on koh chiang was 15/yrs ago, way sleepier. Love the rude boy bar. Thanks for the tips
@jamesmacneil6071 Жыл бұрын
Nice work - good descriptions - great variety - Thanks from Nova Scotia -Canada!
@tganet7123 Жыл бұрын
Had a mint week here when travelling here in 2006. The huts were loads more basic. Not fully watertight, outside shower, mattress on the floor draped by a mosquito net 😂. Happy days though. I'll be back one day.
@SideTripLife Жыл бұрын
'06 sounded amazing! Hope you get back!
@duncanjarvis5385 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, been to Koh Chang many times and love it so much. Quiet compared to some of the other Thai Islands, but that is what i love about it. Keep the vids coming, as i love to see your travels and gives us all ideas of where we might go.
@robbielittle522 жыл бұрын
Nice one mate ,,,,,,,catching up as back in UK after 30 days travelling around Thailand Nice
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Rob, hope you had a great trip! STL
@petermykichuk37142 жыл бұрын
Looks great just so much to see in Thailand itself
@breckon062 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video dude, like the chilled out style, back watching videos again and psyching myself up to go to Thailand in the next few months. Doing world year trip tempted to start with a month in an apartment on the beach Like this.
@johnway9853 Жыл бұрын
Recently discovered your channel, great stuff. Yeah, always endure it to the end!
@SideTripLife Жыл бұрын
Cheers John!
@johnway9853 Жыл бұрын
@@SideTripLife Meant to mention, I grew up in Victoria, wife grew up in Metchosin. When you mentioned Sooke Potholes we had a good laugh.
@whatsname2649 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes a place just hits you right between the eyes. This is that place for me. Great video! Every place you showed was well worth the rent. Something for everyone. I especially loved the 2nd place; the one you took 700baht. 1st one was ok too. All priced for your particular fit. Outstanding food, atmosphere & of course, ppl. Gonna have to follow your act, buddy. Like & subscribed! I'm very selective about my videos. Thailand & Vietnam. My 2 favorite places on the planet. As usual I stumbled upon you by accident. Pleasant surprise. Thanks alot!!!👍🇨🇷🍜🍤🏊
@Alleyoop79422 жыл бұрын
What a magical spot. Must put on to do list. Thank you
@marcusbww Жыл бұрын
I ate in exactly that place with an amazing sunset. I love Koh Chang, been 3 times, booked for October again.
@SideTripLife Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@antruok49502 жыл бұрын
Overwhelmingly a place to go - LB - thanks for showing some real Lanta - 👌 very much enjoyed STL 🍻😎👌👍🙏
@matthewgreen90622 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video 🙏
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thx Matthew
@andrewoakley49572 жыл бұрын
Hmmm? Near the end you say ' I have chosen well ' that was what I call an understatement! Porpar food looked gorgeous 😍 loved your review of the beach huts.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Porpar best Penang Gai ever! (view not bad too;)
@ingeborgart45242 жыл бұрын
We really enjoy your content, thanks. Reminds us of our several trips to Thailand in the past. We hope to visit again one day.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly Inge & co :)
@NickyDunn2 жыл бұрын
Hiya, the prices always shock me. So cheap for a slice of paradise. Love a bit of drone footage. You did well. They are not easy to fly. Great video. Beautiful sunset. Always chilled vibes. No, no-no. Yes, yes, yes. Love it. Leo's bar has great vibes. Always watch your full video. Have a great weekend. Somehow I have missed a few vids. So catching up.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks :) PS 'Somehow I have missed a few vids' says Nicky in between walking Mr Wiggle Butt, filming her yummy cooking vids or being a super-mod lol.
@mrdave222 жыл бұрын
i really enjoy the laid back places. thumbs up
@up2u1622 жыл бұрын
Great vlog as always, boss! I can't wait to get back.
@rolandthe1st2 жыл бұрын
Great video! 👍🏼👏🏻👏🏻 Soon I will check the recommended places 🤗
@joannelord50152 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic trip down memory lane, thanks 😊
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@bwlynn732 жыл бұрын
Made it to the end...great video and series
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Legend! Thank you!
@mikeridge32292 жыл бұрын
I was based in chanthaburi for a week, took a trip to koh chang, a long trip by scooter so of course stayed over in 2018. For one night at a rasta resort. I much prefer south of Bangkok. Living in ubon- ratchathani is quite different.
@N3v3rAround2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate all your work I live for these vids. Great stuff. I miss the Thai Rasta bars.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thx. Love me a rasta bar too and on the beach all the better! STL
@Malin0312 жыл бұрын
11:00 . Not much to do there. Thinking of your life. Relax and meditation
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the 'zen' of the place and just metres behind is the village so several cafes, bars, shops etc, plus Lonely Beach itself nearby so best of both.
@สุทธิศักดิ์มธุรพงศากุล2 жыл бұрын
Nice place and so beautiful sunset 😮😊👍🌄🌅
@veganwarrior45596 ай бұрын
Great videos of Koh Chang and informative. A friend and myself will be there for the New Year 2024/25 for a week so looking forward to it. A few days at Oasis resort then off to the east side. So best of both worlds party time New Year then rest on the east side 😎👍
@DefiFreedomMaxi2 жыл бұрын
Cool roof deck!
@deanbrown83552 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual STL. Hope to get over to The Land of Smiles again soon. Thank you :)
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dean, Thailand awaits! STL
@stutherighteous66592 жыл бұрын
Yet another top video......can't wait to get back to log chang.......
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Stu the Righteous (love that nic btw;) STL
@warrenpugh31822 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff mate. Great investigation of the island to find some little jems. 🏖🏝⛱🍻👍
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Warren. I absolutely love nosing around a new place and finding a few little gems always a pleasure. STL
@heatherdavies18942 жыл бұрын
Watched till the end as always 👌🏻
@kevinpritchard35922 жыл бұрын
Man that is a great video with some great info, thanks man.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Kev :)
@TheWoz17075 ай бұрын
Love yr videos.STL.Trouble is the more of them i watch the more places are added to the list 😂 I'm going to need a year out there 😮
@saveriocannata34472 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and helpfull video!
@olafrutz63192 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised over all You amazing travel videos , You make a great Job I hope I meet You someday
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@samandjanesbubble33542 жыл бұрын
So want to visit this island a little taste of old Thai island life great price info thankyou
@mauihowey2 жыл бұрын
Great island…..we will be going there in the next couple months….
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
My 1st visit, love KC now! Enjoy :) STL
@supersonicsid59302 жыл бұрын
For some reason I’ve not been getting your vlogs . Had to look for you , but well worth it . Great vlog Beautiful sunsets lovely beaches glorious surroundings and some Bob Marley to listen to , and no doubt some Bob Hope to smoke if you like that sort of thing , and I do , what more can you ask for. Thanks for the uploads.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Sid. STL
@Malin0312 жыл бұрын
14:47 - Nice place for me , and familys. Great hotel !
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Yes that hotel is lovely but was booked up on the weekend so best book ahead if coming on a weekend or Thai Ntnl holiday
@marqui19682 жыл бұрын
Just A W E S O M E as per usual. Makes me just wanna jump on a plane ✈️ and get there. Rasta rustic bar Food Cold beers Good music 🌊 ocean Sunset That is LIFE LIVING at its very best Love it 🥰 👌😃 Greetings from freezing 🥶 Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thx. Perfect checklist right there (and bet Melbourne still lovely despite a bit of chill :) STL
@marqui19682 жыл бұрын
@@SideTripLife ….. Tis 👌 Autumn 🍂 leaves Fish 🌮 tacos Margaritas Great coffee ☕️ And lots of poodles 🐩 😎😃
@dentray Жыл бұрын
I stayed at the Siam beach resort over 20 years ago, looks like its expanded a bit, I couldnt see the beach bungalows , pity if they are gone. The tide here goes out miles on certain days.
@ForRiel2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if you already know, but Rude Boy is UK slang for a fan of Ska music which is kinda like reggae but faster and more urban. Please excuse if you already knew. 😁
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Ah ha.... Thanks for that info, all makes sense now! Cherrs, STL (PS, any looking in, Cambodia borders are open again so for latest Cambo news check out 'For Riel' channel;)
@pauljames95272 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos of Koh Chang, come to the White Elephant in White Sands on Friday night, great live music ( if I do say so myself) I’ll be play for a couple of hours and then another excellent band will play till midnight
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul, also for the heads-up. STL loves live music! Will try to pop by in future
@freelancekate89192 жыл бұрын
wow looks so amazing, its not as busy as the other places you went to. But its so nice
@shonamalstom5782 Жыл бұрын
Oh Koh Chang is it MAN GI 😂 I'm lovin this vid wow cheap n cheerful all right... Rasta
@ArdoEdu2 жыл бұрын
End of January 2022, A trip by car to Koh Chang was my gift to my girlfriend for her birthday (her suggestion though, ha ha), it was the most exciting and amazing 10 days so far in Thailand, and I've been all over it. We stayed at Marina Sands Resort, with their private beach, top place and it was so cheap.
@VICSWEB12 жыл бұрын
fantastic, what am I doing in this hell LV NV?
@C2K7772 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these. Going through the playlist and although you couldn't stay there Nature Beach is one of the place's that we'll be staying at End Oct through to mid November for a birthday trip and one that should've been taken 2yrs ago. Wonder if you'll stay at any of the other places we have booked. I won't cheat and will note them as: Kacha Resort & Spa, Nature Beach Resort and Koh Chang Cliff Beach Resort. I'll come on back after I've finished the list and see how we did eh. Glad to see that the island is starting to pick up a bit and hopefully by the time we arrive at the start of high season it'll have it's vibe in full swing ( though if it's not rammed then selfishly I won't be too upset about that even though the poor residents are likely praying it will be)
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Happy MUCH belated B-day trip! Your accommodation choices are all lovely. Enjoy! STL
@joelallonen55012 жыл бұрын
i miss koh chang so much, thanks for nice video!
@peterrobinson27172 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your video's......top class 👍🏼🙂
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Peter
@leafyrivers9432 жыл бұрын
love this video thanks for sharing 👍 ❤️
@allisonking29422 жыл бұрын
Still seems very quiet Garlic used to be buzzing now it’s nearly empty
@tonytottenham98722 жыл бұрын
Hi sidetriplife nature beach resort always busy bit pricey if you there for long time but good for sunset chill out, normally stay warapura resort which is now split with casa beach resort really great rooms from around 800 baht will try out sunflower for a change when I get back next month cheers.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks fir the tips Tony :) STL
@skipdippity8 ай бұрын
always stay til the end..! i am wanting to move here since watching your videos....my kid cant tho so im torn..! lol At least want to visit....!!!
@taza98 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Happy video! Fun video! Yah man! ❤️
@SideTripLife Жыл бұрын
cheers Taza
@marzeezee2 жыл бұрын
Great video! SO want to get there!!!
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marzee (you'll get here :)
@RidingwithStymie2 жыл бұрын
Great coverage of the Lonely Beach area. Love it! Wish I was there right now. (Btw, not sure if you were joking, but the name of the restaurant is "Titanic.")
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
lol (at meself;) STL
@Malin0312 жыл бұрын
Always look at the SideTripLife , do do do =)
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks kindly Malin :) STL
@torvaldelletveito91812 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work STL! Love it 🤟🥂🍺💃
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Torvald :) STL
@beamerUSA Жыл бұрын
Beautiful video............................... no gimmicks.
@Jaysthudandblunder2 жыл бұрын
Leo's bar, a platonic place to chill, a couple of 50 baht dishes, a couple of cokes, watch the sunset and then a good book before bed. Sleep in a hammock all day too ... where do I sign up? 😁
@tonynguyen53622 жыл бұрын
We'll come to Koh Chang in Jan, I know not to go to Coco, they rather serve large group than individual , great content you gave me some great information where to stay and eat.
@SideTripLife2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony. The big group at Coco had reserved the restaurant before I arrived. They offered to serve me too but it would take 30 mins as they were prepping the big group. So I just said no prob and went next door. So Coco is a good place too :) STl