Sig Sauer MCX Virtus PCP Air Rifle "Part 2" by Airgun Detectives

[@NordicMeatShield]

Great follow up and new sub :) ..saves a bit of time not having to seat them pellets ..also finding H&N sniper magnums shoot decent so far too but only shot out to 20 yards so far

[@AirgunDetectives]

Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments 👍

[@marcelarthur4294]

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[@alvinjamir3130]

@Marcel Arthur instablaster :)

[@marcelarthur4294]

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[@marcelarthur4294]

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[@genuinetuffguy1854]

Great tip regarding fully seating the pellets with the included tool vs just using your finger. I fully seated mine with the tool and that might explain why I experienced some jams / unfired pellets.

[@JD_1]

One thing I tried and it made a major difference in accuracy for the mcx .177 and I'm sure it will work for the .22 version. Slightly drill out the little white flanges in the belt that holds the pellets. It's the flaw of the belt. It damages the pellets before it even gets into the barrel. At 25 yards It went from a 8" group to 1-1/4". Downside is that if you drill the flanges completely out... The pellets will fall out of the belt! Sig needs to redesign the belt.

[@AirgunDetectives]

That is true..They actually scuff up the skirts. Very good point!

[@JD_1]

@Matt Mann it's pretty sad. But it is what it is. I sold the gun after having it for a 2 months. Good plinker once you do the mod to the belt.

[@greg6162]

Matt Mann no I agree 💯... Especially considering their ASP20 break barrel which actually has some a lot of features for a “magnum” rifle (lighter cocking especially for a magnum 30-33lbs, decent power, ambidextrous safety, bear trap barrel safety feature for mostly user error, but it keeps the barrel from snapping on your fingers while loading in case you let go of the barrel after you cock it while loading a pellet ) and is reportedly incredibly accurate for a break barrel. I’m sure they are already designing a new PCP as I’m writing this. Trial and error I guess?

[@bigmarkthe1]

I have no problem at all either way

[@dcpatters0]

I am new to the sport of air guns. Living in Orange County, CA, the only way to shoot is to head to a local range. Anyway, in researching content, I found your channel. The reviews and unbiased feedback are outstanding. Greatly appreciate your contribution. By far, "Little Sally" was the best intro spokesperson to your videos. I mean that with the utmost respect. Subscribed for future uploads. 👍

[@masquetrofo7358]

Great review. Please more videos about this model. Long distance test. Disassembly....how to clean.... Thanks.

[@skydart60]

Nice followup. I just bought the UK spec of this as I live in the UK LOL. Hopefully SIG have updated the model and resolved the issues and I will be receiving the newest model soon. Nice video, really helpful and supported me during my selection process. I will be using this for light hunting, plinking and other duties.

[@Anaesthetist98]

How has your Virtus been now that you've had it for over a year? I'm also in the UK, any issues?

[@skydart60]

@@Anaesthetist98 hi Lawrence, to be honest with you, I've not been using the gun too much but it seems fine. No problems as of yet. The muzzle velocity is consistent and no leaks so all good.

[@james47450]

Thanks for all the info and on a side note your yard is beautiful

[@AirgunDetectives]

Thank you! A lot of work over the years😉

[@augustgiovenco4974]

Great video/channel 👍🏻👍🏻 seeking/researching for my first PCP

[@Shinspliffs]

Defiantly considering this for a new unregulated 22. Just Bc the governments now days I think airguns are great. But I wish they had better ones for home defense... maybe a slightly larger caliber.... 223. would be perfect but love how you set it up. Looks great

[@RichardHendricks]

Thank you for the additional information.

[@AirgunDetectives]

Richard thank you as always, I appreciate your comments 👍😉

[@danielmaezoalvarez5818]

Me encanta la sig sauer. Tiene que ser un placer disparar con ella. Saludos desde Sevilla, España

[@AirgunDetectives]

También soy un gran admirador de las armas Sig Sauer. Tienen algunos modelos muy bonitos. Espero que todo esté bien en España y agradezco que lo veas como siempre :)

[@bubbleone6526]

Don’t know how I never found your channel before. It just popped up today. Subbed now. I love all the pellet guns (pcp being my favorite). I own pump, co2, break barrel and pcp. Keep the videos coming and I’ll try and promote your channel. By the way just checked your web site and bought a kool new T shirt. (Edited for last comment)

[@AirgunDetectives]

Welcome!! I appreciate you watching and thanks for the comments 👍😉

[@mattteeple2605]

Great review. I'm going to try the predator polymags and gtos out of mine

[@brianaraluce3203]

Great video

[@AirgunDetectives]

Thank you for watching and I appreciate your comments!👍

[@Enonymouse_]

I would love to see Sig elevate this rifle concept to a higher kinetic potential, 60 ft pounds. It's an interesting design. That faux supressor could've used a gemtech quick release mount. :)

[@AirgunDetectives]

It would have not been that difficult. They would just need to upgrade the internal valve. The rest is as simple as changing the bottle and adding a 2200 psi regulator. Currently they are internally regulated to 1200 psi in addition to the external regulator.

[@Enonymouse_]

@@AirgunDetectives 40-60 ft pound would make this a very competitive design for both plinking on the range, and small to medium game hunting/pesting. At it's current 10-ish ft pound, I couldn't justify owning it. I have my eye on FX Impact X or a Texan right now.

[@AirgunDetectives]

@@Enonymouse_ in it's current state it is a backyard plinker and maybe small pest control.

[@EsaiiTaylor]

@@AirgunDetectives Is there a way to replace the internal regulator, like a custom shop?

[@AirgunDetectives]

@@EsaiiTaylor Not that I know of. I tried a larger tank and an increased external regulator but it did not work because of the 1200 psi limit on the internal regulator. I am still waiting for a new model to confirm the upgrades.

[@james47450]

When will gen two virtus come out ???

[@bblue651]

agreed I was just about to buy one thank god I read the description, but yes I would also like to know when the new one or the Virtus V2 will come out.

[@james47450]

@@bblue651 sig is not getting back to us so they can sale all the gen one's first I think just a guess I just dont want to miss my chance to buy one of the gen one's when they are gone God only knows when the next batches will be out.

[@dcpatters0]

Just 2 weeks ago, I purchased a "newer" Virtus. I am in Orange County if you want to test my SIG Virtus.

[@racheltgal1]

Thank You another great video

[@AirgunDetectives]

The M-Lok portion was in response to your question 😉👍

[@brorjordas1979]

Returning again.. Shot a couple of mags of my Gamo Match pellets again from 30 meters.. One nice big hole (1.5"maybe?)... Then the Gamo Pro Hunter domed pellets again? Insane spread!!🤣 Luckily them domed are now shot all out. Never gonna buy of them again.😁 But a nice can on the tip of the barrel do would look sweet.. Concidering...

[@logansvatos8137]

I honestly want to see a full length bolt that pushes the pellet into the breech ! That should allow for a higher power output and possibly help with accuracy if they can keep the belt from damaging the pellets !! Plz post a video of the new version as soon as you can get your hands on one !! Thanks for the honest review

[@AirgunDetectives]

I will be very curious to see the updated version and the changes they made. Thanks for watching 👍😉

[@Losingsince]

I would love a review of the Sumatra 2500 in .25 caliber. I've been intrigued it's performance with slugs as a raccoon buster

[@AirgunDetectives]

I have a Brand New Multi-shot PCP in .177,.22 and .25 that I will be reviewing soon. The performance is absolutely amazing and you won't believe how reasonable the price is. Can't give you anymore info for now....but Stay Tuned!👍😉

[@JoseCastro-yj7bd]

I've been looking everywhere for any kind of compensator flash hider muzzle break or suppressor but I can't seem to find any for the perfect fitting do you think you could send me a link for where you bought Some of those from thank you it would mean a lot to me thanks love the channel by the way keep it up 😊

[@AirgunDetectives]

Hi Jose, just go to eBay and type in "muzzle brake 1/2 x 28" you'll have an endless number to choose from. 😉

[@FreedomAirguns]

IS the receiver/body LEAD ??? I can't believe that more care has been put into the airsoft version than this one here.... Still waiting for a confirmation, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be disappointing as I'm sure it's lead.

[@brorjordas1979]

This Virtus seems to do quite so good with them GTO pellets. Too bad never seen them for sale around here. And whatever light alloy pellets that I do have found - they do tend to be pretty damn expensive.. Oughta just find some light-ish lead pellets instead..😁 I yesterday bought myself a tin of .22 RWS Hobby pellets (along with a couple of different Gamo pellets). Had recently read that Hard Air Magazine had gotten some pretty good results with them Hobbys - therefore I decided to buy of them myself also. They were not expensive to buy - and it is only a 25min drive to get plenty more if proven good. Just test shot them Hobbys. Were a bit nervous if they'd jam up the Virtus, since having experiences of flathead RWSs jamming up an MCX before.. But no. Seems good. No idea of the accuracy yet (not that great though I think). Have been shooting mostly to sight in my cheap 4x32 scope and to see if it works properly. So far all good. The outer barrel shroud though does seem terribly engineered. Need to fix that before even concidering any accurate shooting. I though did get shots "grouped" (one nasty flyer, otherwise maybe a 3" group) within 5" from a distance of 25 metres.. My rest setup though was not the best (a big two-wheeled plastic trash container with a couple of cardboard boxes on top of each other to rest the handguard on) - but was okay for a rather quick 60 shot test to get the scope somewhat tuned in. I definitely want a way better scope in the future. Something with a bigass magnification!😂 I've shot 1.5" groups using a 1x30 red dot as also with this 4x32 scope from 20 metres using my .177 co2 MCX. Aaand 25m is only 5m further.. But the .177 co2 MCX do have a better made outer barrel construction imo. If you go and screw the threaded parts in the front of the Virtus...something just oughta change. No idea if it is good to tighten the inner barrel nut very tight towards the plastic outer barrel shroud - or to let it be slightly snug. The outer barrel just seems to make a wiggly barrel setup. But he inner barrel alone seemed way sturdy before attaching the outer barrel. I hope this Virtus gets a straight manufactured, one-piece metal shroud in the future... But overall. I AM happy with my Virtus. No jams so far. And I hope it stays that way.. And now out for some advice.. How to store this Virtus? Air-wise, I mean.. I have now had it upped with air (~2700ish psi) with the tank on the rifle - to keep pressure on the internal valve, to see if it holds, and it seemingly does not leak. Stored with airtank on - or off? Have read of broken tank seal rings due to removal of airtank all the time. I would prefer it on. The manometer placement is perfectly upwards btw.😁 If stored on - is it better to shoot the pressure down? And if so - to how low? Red-meets-green low?. Would be way more handy to go shooting with the pressure already upped. My second tank filling session started my me having to first disassemble my handpump totally..😂 Oh. And yea.. Does your airtank "tick" when filled. Mine keeps this ticking sound with every press.. Love that! Something that makes me know my pumping works and it is getting filled. And my manometer btw is chrome with a white face - and not black as mentioned in your pt.1 video. I do not mind it at all. Just wanted to share. The airtank writing (vertical/horizontal layout) has seemingly also changed between some Virtus videos online. I think UK models might have gotten different printing on them..? -And edit number...?? Pellet seater. Definitely need to make one for .22 also. The pellet seater in the grip did press the 18+gr Gamo PCP Special domed pellets out. Bought some Gamo Pro Hunter pellets yesterday also. Looks alike the PCP Specials - but only shorter and are therefore lighter also. But I want a pellet seater. I am a creature of habit myself. And I want them skirts a wee bit more into the belts than just my fingers pushes them - for the cone behind the belt to better seal the joint - or at least in theory.

[@brorjordas1979]

This previous comment got a bit long I think.. In the future I might send you email(s) concidering my "Virtus experience" - if that is okay for you.. A better way to send n share pictures also.

[@AirgunDetectives]

@@brorjordas1979 yes...send me an email anytime. Easier for me to respond [e-mail] 😉👍

[@simonnoble7589]

Outstanding Rifle Review, tell me would you buy one ?

[@ChocolatMousse]

He probably wouldn't buy one now, when the updated model is coming in a couple months time, mate. Let's wait for the man to get his hands on the new model and ask him then :)

[@matthewgrzesiak8980]

@@ChocolatMousse Just wondering were you heard this mate as looking at buying one soon and I'll wait if there's a update.

[@ChocolatMousse]

Matthew Grzesiak just read this video’s description :) Airgun Detective edited it with an update, where he mentions all this!

[@simonnoble7589]

Moutsaras great 👍 , have just read this . Will wait for the updated Sig 👍🇬🇧

[@chuckbarnett_tx]

I bought one a couple months ago and I like it a lot. It's pretty weak compared to my other air rifles but its the coolest one I like shooting the most, and yea, it's way more powerful than the pellet guns I grew up with

[@ReVersDC]

U got my sub , great review:) and my question is u try H&N FTT pellet?

[@AirgunDetectives]

Yes...I tried several of them. The problem is the belt grooves cut tiny notches in the lead pellet skirts which affects the trajectory and thus the accuracy. That is why the alloy pellets are more accurate, they are not as susceptible to the notches causing groves. Sig is in the process of revamping the rifle and the new and improved version should be released this summer. I had several

[@brorjordas1979]

I have still not found any of them GTOs for me to test.. But the RWS Hobbys surely been great. The RWS Superdomes then - totally crap (in mine at least). I did not get any RWS S.Hollowpoints even though I were out to buy of them - so, I bought only of the Superdomes.. But lately the Gamo Pro Match ("Pro Match" are smooth skirted - regular "Match" are groove skirted) pellets gotten to shoot way good. Even outperformed the RWS Hobbys the last time I shot the Pro Match pellets. A 45mm group with 30 shots at 30 meters. The Hobbys might get to be my 15m range pellet of choice as the Gamos might get to be my 30meter pellet since the group so good for the price - if keeps performing this good, that is.. Still all domed pellets has so far not been that good in my Virtus for some reason.. That grip buttplate holding the sight adjuster+seating tool had a slightly poor clip on the other side. Sat a bit loose. I rolled a piece of black tape into a roll pin and put it inside the bad clip cavity. Now the grip plate sits more secure.. I just a while back read of some poor guy who had lost his grip plate and tool somewhere. Just wanna now raise awareness of this thing also.

[@AirgunDetectives]

Mine is still in place, but then again mine has not left the yard 😉 As far as the GTO's they worked great in Version I. Not that impressive in Version II. The lead pellets seem to group better in this model.

[@brorjordas1979]

@@AirgunDetectives I just felt that the other tab of the grip buttpiece seemed to be already a bit pressed in and it had this loose wiggle to it. Never was an issue really. But I adressed to it just since someone happened to lose their. I'd just be damn annoyed if that happpened to me...even tvough I,do nlt either really go far places with it along..😁 And again we just come to that thing where preferred pellets are chosen by the barrel.. Just damn mindblowing - kinda. Manufacturers just do not seem to do perfectly identical copies of their barrels...or something. I were though wondering about the inner barrel. I did a while back play around with it. Pushed pellets thru it with a rod. Mostly one pellet at a time. But then also even three iin a row (the latter ones to keep the first pellet exiting out straight and not bend after the head is out from the barrel). I just noticed how it was kinda choked at both ends. Took quite some force to enter the pellet from the rear. After the skirt was in and reshaped according to rifling, it still was quite tight in there. The mid section though was loose, and the pellets went along way easy, all until the muzzle end. At the muzzle end all went stiff again.. Just as if the inner barrel woulda wiggled around in a spinning process while being made - you know: as a jump rope acts, but just way more straight manner.. These probably oughta be like this but it annoyed me once again (the .177 MCX was somewhat alike). So I made a taper shape rod (just by twisting) of very fine steel wool and honed the barrel ends using a cordless drill. Mostly I worked on the rear entry hole so the pellets would get a longer and smoother entry line.... Yeaa.. If you understand what I am telling you here...you probably say that I am crazy.😂 I do have seen "ruin the barrel" comments just because someone used a cotton bud to clean their barrel.. But whattahell. My rifle. The RWS Hobbys still shoot as good. But the Gamo Pro Match pellets they stepped up a notch. From 3-4" into sub 2" group at 30m - and that was kicking the RWS Hobbys ass..😂 If the Gamos performance stay like this, then they'll be my next 30m pellet of choice since them being heavier (15.42gr) than the Hobbys. Dunno, but I've been quite so happy with my Virtus lately. Been shooting two mags every morning before work. Sometimes 30m grouping - sometimes spray paint can destroying..😁

[@carlmaynewheeler]

Why doesn’t anyone including you show how to fill the air in these things?

[@AirgunDetectives]

We can do that in the future but it is really an easy process. 👍

[@carlmaynewheeler]

Airgun Detectives-Airgun Reviews - not for simpletons like me.. great video man.. keep it up..

[@brorjordas1979]

Yea.. I also were a bit sceptical that I had gotten myself all the right parts for filling this one up. Luckily the rifle did have only that plain round knob on the tank for a female quick-connector - which was included in my PCP airpump package. No need to buy separate parts. Seen many "how to fill your PCP" videos.. But they hardly ever go into it enough - for newbies (like myself) in the PCP world at least. If my handpump's hose/whip would've come with a 1/8" thread at the other end - I woulda needed to go out to buy a quick-connector..

[@theshootindutchman]

Hi guys, nice job. Just a comment and

[@jakekennedy6920]

Did they finally fix the problems they were having with the mcx

[@AirgunDetectives]

I have no idea! Sig was supposed to send me an upgraded model but they have refused thus far. I keep getting "the check is in the mail" response. I have my doubts 😌

[@jakekennedy6920]

@@AirgunDetectives how is the virtus does it have any issues

[@danshearer2520]

Can you tell us who you worked with to obtain the V2? I sent my v1 in with the problems and came back that it had no issues. I tried getting a replacement but they won’t even answer about the V2 and just say they won’t replace a rifle with no issues. Ridiculous for an international brand.

[@mja9700]

That 1/2 28 sure give us plenty of options 👍👍👍 how loud is it???

[@AirgunDetectives]

Not very loud but I would hold off on purchasing this new model. They were supposed to make several significant improvements but Sig still has not advised me of the updates nor provided a new model to tested. They already released it for resale so I'm a little curious what exactly occurred with this rifle. I will continue to inquire and let everyone know of any additional information. 👍

[@mja9700]

Airgun Detectives-Airgun Reviews I waited forever for this 22 pellet. I guess I'll have to wait a little longer. I like it because it's PCP HPA not CO2 and it's 22

[@Mracelocates]

Will the Predator International Polymag .22 cal Polymer Tipped work well with this too?

[@DJ-nz8xj]

Saludos desde México siempre veo tus vídeos. Regala un rifle de esos jejeje estan muy chingones

[@AirgunDetectives]

Le agradezco que haya visto y sus comentarios son bienvenidos :)

[@susuairj]

Great video! can you please tell me which brand of bipod do you use? thanks

[@brorjordas1979]

A pt.2? Nice! All additional info is always welcome. Way nice of you. Thank you once again! Wanted to know the barrel thread size myself also - even were not gonna really add anything myself. I heve not really used the pellet seater with my old co2 MCX either. I always use this one specific ballpoint pen instead. Works as good. Just do not push the pellets thru. Flush with front works though. I just always seat the pellets so the cone (up inside the magwell) behind the mag/belt is able to easily fit into the belt and seal the airway from the valve as tight as possible. There also is this fork-type of piece above the belt that lowers down towards the belt top when pulling the trigger. It might be working better on this new model. The .177's coned piece within the magwell seems to be a bit more rounder than coned on this new gun in comparison to the old one. (Yeah. Been comparing pics of my co2 rifle to screenshots of this new PCP model 😂) Would like to get my hands on one of these PCPs... NOW!!😂😂

[@AirgunDetectives]

I found it absolutely necessary to seat the pellets with the .177 Co2 models but it's just not the case with this rifle. They go in pretty easy and it just doesn't change the accuracy. I do think those small groves in the pellet slots on the belt does affect the accuracy. You can see small grooves cut into the skirts on the lead pellets. Not as much on the alloy, which explains why the GTO's are much more accurate.

[@brorjordas1979]

@@AirgunDetectives Yea. I only got the .177 MCX. Therefore I don't yet know the exact differences between the two. But nice to hear your pellets fit good in there and has worked more than well even without seating them. Always a good bonus. I have noticed the grooves in the .177 belts. Definitely deforms the skirts at least when seating. Crosman pellets are way tight to fit into the .177 version - but 7gr RWS Club pellets go easy, and shoot way tighter if not taking account the drop of the hits on target because of the co2 cooldown and powerloss. My most loosely fitted pellets do have been the most accurate on target overall.. .... Oh man.. I am now getting just more and more excited and anxious to get my hands on one of these!! 😁😁 The whole waiting game just sucks. All this time - ans still not enough of these rifles for everyone that wants one. And some of those who have gotten of these - mostly have complained it not having enough power? Luckily I am only to shoot paper and reactive targets within 20 yards... Btw. Thank you for replying so darn well to everyone. It feels truly uncommon to be able to interact with the holders of channels. You must be very much into airgunning. Myself mostly being into co2 replica pistols and military style replica rifles. No match accuracy airguns on my behalf. Just love tuning replicas. But I do have liked to watch your reviews of any break barrel you have taken in front of the camera. Been intrigued many times to try out something a bit different.. Thank you so very much yet again.

[@AirgunDetectives]

@@brorjordas1979 I have more Replica pistols than rifles and I did some custom barrels on a few. 1911's are my favorite and I think I have every model made. As far of this MCX PCP I just ordered some different regulators and bottles. The MCX is regulated at 1100 psi. I am going to test 1200, 1500 and 1800 psi regulators and see how this rifle performs. Also I reached out to Sig for additional belts. I want to reduce or eliminate the grooves. I am betting we can greatly improve the accuracy. If any of this is successful I will produce a video on my findings. A lot of things going on behind the scenes. 👍

[@brorjordas1979]

@@AirgunDetectives Effin sweet! Oh, man! Sounds way awesome! Gonna be very interested to see how the Virtus reacts to higher regulated tanks. And very curious of how it reacts to smooth belt bores. Just noticed how loosely pellets are seated (or just dropped in) within those twist-n-turn rotary mags that many hunting rifle styled PCP airguns use. Would be sweet with just a perfectly snug fitted smooth bore in the belts.. Also very interested in your custom barrel replica pistols. A big replica airpistol fan here. Especially by KWC - as way many 1911's are manufactured by. Got the Umarex Colt M45 CQBP Rail Gun myself - and it is awesome.

[@brorjordas1979]

Drove a 4.5mm drill thru one of my .177 MCX belts at the weekend. I softly grinded about 1" of the tip a bit thinner so it became slightly cone in shape and I could push safely the drill a bit thru the belt bore first, before the drill actually starting to cut the grooves. Pushed the drill completely thru the belts. Still left some grooves left to hold my RWS Club pellets from slipping out of the belt after seating them. But the pellets went much easier in there and would not stay in there without pushing them deep inside. Probably coulda used even a slightly bigger drill bit. But since my next drill size woulda been 5.0mm - I decided to go with the 4.5mm. These plastic holes do usually expand a bit - and especially with a thin wall around like this. Woulda been interested to see what the result would be with a 4.7mm drill - but did not find any. Might next consider a small round file if I find a suitable one for the job. Did shoot a mag already thru the belt using a 12g capsule this morning before work. But did not have time to set up my bipod and all for more accurate shooting. Had to sight-in my red dot sight (yeah, oughta buy a scope for it) because having my MCX all apart on the table this weekend. Maybe need to adjust and lead in the inner barrel also once again for more precise results. But I did manage to shoot a sub 1" group with a 3 shot string. Probably 10 meters? Did not take time to measure the distance.

[@jeremyweaver3016]

I’m wondering if this can run the FX Hybrid .22 slugs? As a disclaimer I know very little about airguns, but this rifle generated my interest. From the videos I’ve seen on them they appear to do a great job.

[@AirgunDetectives]

I wouldn't run too heavy pellets through this with the stock setup. However, I am going to try a few modifications in the future. Thanks for watching 👍

[@theshootindutchman]

Sorry, just a comment and a bit of venting. Nice review as you always do, but I'm wondering if others feel the same way about platforms like this. Why would a company put such obvious time and energy into an AR platform, and give it such low power? My guess is that they are hoping some law enforcement agency will try to save money on .223/556 ammunition in training and substitute this air rifle in its place. I can tell you as a law enforcement officer myself, very few, if any, law enforcement agencies are going to do this. Given this, why wouldn't Sig Sauer actually GIVE THIS RIFLE SOME POWER to actually be able to hunt and have a modicum of accuracy???!!! As it is, this air rifle is simply something to use to plink cans with, or give to a youngster in order to teach how to shoot and care for a rifle. There is nothing wrong with this, but don't advertise this as anyting but a beginners rifle. The going prices for this rifle seems to be just under $400. If this were made to shoot 850 to 900 fps and would shoot slugs or hybrids, I would GLADLY pay $600+ for it as it would be a "one of a kind" rifle!!!! Very frustrating, and as such my prediction is that it will SELL POORLY in the retail market (Dicks, Sportsman's Warehouse, etc.) because it's upper end price range, but will also have MANY people buying and then returning it back to the mail order houses (Pyramid, Airgun Depot etc.) due to their dissapointment in accuracy and power! Come on.... who does the research and advisement on these projects??? I hate to be the downer here, but come on guys!

[@AirgunDetectives]

I totally agree.. that is why the are recalling these and upgrading the design. I shared all that information plus some with Sig's engineer dept. I sent them an entire page of issues they should address. I was advised they will be addressing those issues and a "much" improved version would be released possibly this summer. Read my comments directly under the video. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments 👍

[@theshootindutchman]

Airgun Detective, bravo!

[@derekd1510]

I've seen on reddit where you can increase the regulated pressure to 1500 psi...I would like to know what kind of fps increase that would create.

[@paveltube7628]

Great Review! Just out of curiosity what optic do you have on the rifle?

[@AirgunDetectives]

Visionking 1.25-5x26 Rifle scope 30 three-pin German #1 Reticle Picatinny Rings. Only about $80.00 on Ebay. I have one on my AR as well. The quality is absolutely amazing for the price!

[@james47450]

Any word back from sig on gen two Virtus ?

[@AirgunDetectives]

2 emails and crickets! They have not answered any questions regarding upgrades. I would hold off purchasing this until we find out if they made any upgrades!

[@james47450]

@@AirgunDetectives ok thanks for the info they were very evasive when I spoke to them also.

[@aaronrockler2327]

I sent an email to sig on oct.8 and got a reply on oct.9 from Amy Lord customer service rep.this is what she said:"We have made a couple of engineering upgrades to improve accuracy.Anything shipping going forward will have those updates."

[@james47450]

@@aaronrockler2327 thanks for the info

[@JERELLE_MULLINS]

Can you use regular co2 for this gun

[@brorjordas1979]

Yes. You can. You just need to buy a separate adapter for the use. Seen a video where they used a 88g co2 cartridge for this Virtus. I think paintball stores may sell them correct adapters for you.

[@JERELLE_MULLINS]

@@brorjordas1979 ok thank you. Ill look into it.

[@brorjordas1979]

@@JERELLE_MULLINS Kinda cool you do can use also co2 with the Virtus - although I bought the Virtus just because I wanted to use air instead.😁😁 I have owned a .177 MCX co2 rifle ever since it came out. One awesome rifle. The only negative of it was the power drop once the co2 started cooling down. The more powerful shots the MCX shot - the more rapid powerloss. Thought of getting an HPA kit for it - but the co2 MCX is not internally built to use air as good as co2.

[@JERELLE_MULLINS]

@@brorjordas1979 i use air with my mcx and mpx and i always noticed that co2 was always stronger and had more power. Maybe i just needed a different air tank other than the ninja

[@brorjordas1979]

@@JERELLE_MULLINS What's the output pressure on your Ninja tank's regulator? Higher pressure might help some - but the MCX and MPX still have a way smaller plenum tube in comparison to the Virtus.. I would love to make my old MCX into a sole project gun and give it a new and bigger tube for HPA use - but first I'd want a new MCX to keep all co2 original. Would not mind owning an MPX also. I just love these Sig ASPs..

[@james47450]

I read the info on virtues you posted on both video .I think you Sade you emailed them twice with no reply back from them I thought they were going to give you more info as soon as possible . If you got bake to me about this subject I'm sorry I can't find it .technology is not my friend some times we get along and some time we don't .

[@EsaiiTaylor]

Anybody figure out how to upgrade the internal valve to allow above 1200psi?

[@brorjordas1979]

Someone already tested this og valve with only power-upgrading the regulator. It did handle about up to 1500+psi or so. Much more than that and the valve jammed shut because of the high pressure.

[@JK-ug7rm]

what bipod is used?

[@JK-ug7rm]

can it be hooked up to a bigger auxillary air tank?

[@chuckbarnett_tx]

yes, standard hpa regulated tank. adapters are available

[@dancccc23]

Which Silencer is this???

[@james47450]

I know you are wating one of the vertus from the second batch to test .DO you know about how long before you get youer hands one .I talked to WILL from sig sauer air guns he sade all the upgrades have been done to batch one and batch two I didt know if you had that information .

[@AirgunDetectives]

Not sure when I'll have it. I am supposedly still on a list but time will tell.

[@james47450]

@@AirgunDetectives as time goes on I'm getting more frustrated with sig sauer .when I talk to Will from sig sauer I ask him about all the upgrades and his response was what upgrades I gave him the information you gave us and then he sade yes if that's what they told air gun detectives that is true . He also offered me 10% off I told him no thanks I'm wating for you to get one to review. If they did in fact do so many upgrades why not tell the customer about it. It could only make us want to buy one ? Another thing that is bothering me is if there has been so many good upgrades to the gun then why haven't the specifications on line and on the box changed isn't that false advertisement ? I fill like sig sauer it trying to take advantage of all of us.I thank you for all the time and energy you have been putting into getting us results and look forward to you get one In youer hand .But at this point i have to believe they have not given you one yet because you will expose them for possible being dishonest. They have nothing to gain by keeping a upgrades to them self .

[@AirgunDetectives]

@@james47450 you are right, I will call them out. I lost my main contact there and now it has been a bit difficult. The Assistant Product Manger still responds to me, she is awesome, but the rest are like crickets. She asks them to take care of some tasks and then I never hear anything. But I assure you I am staying on this!!

[@james47450]

@@AirgunDetectives sorry for all the grammar errors I usually have someone proof read. It's my learning disability that puts me at a disadvantage. Glad you were able to make sense out of it. I was just so frustrated with the level of sig sauer customer service.

[@AirgunDetectives]

@@james47450 not an issue...No problem😉👌

[@paveltube7628]

Does it use a pump to fill up the PCP tank?

[@AirgunDetectives]

👍

[@james47450]

Do you know if it is possible to adjust the trigger weight on this air gun

[@AirgunDetectives]

I don't believe so...but I assure you it is not bad just the way it is...

[@brorjordas1979]

There are no screws for adjusting the trigger weight on these (or at least on the old .177 co2 version at least - and according to the internal parts picture on the box of this .22 PCP). The pullweight consists of many small things. The trigger is affected by seveeral moving parts; rods, springs, pivit points etc.. But if taken apart and then smoothing carefully all moving parts and adding some good lube in there - the trigger can get amazingly good and smooth. Even without replacing any original springs. Did it on my co2 MCX, - and I got stunned how it had changed. The first stage, that moved the belt, was originally quite noticeable on the trigger.. Therefore I believe you can get even a smoother trigger on this one also. But I believe, when AgD says it does not feel like a 9fp trigger. The trigger is truly one of it's own because of the whole internal system..

[@james47450]

Has sig got back to you yet ?

[@AirgunDetectives]

Jim...I hope you are not holding your breath! Since I received information on July 14th I have sent two more recent emails and still awaiting a response. My last email went out Friday, so things are a little slow with most companies right now. I will keep you posted if I obtain more information.

[@james47450]

Ok thanks for you're help it is not you're fault they are be lazy and dishonest with all of us. Thanks for getting back to me.

[@james47450]

Airgun Detectives-Airgun Reviews I don't even care what sig has to say anymore but will you still do a review if they send you one of the supposed new ones .

[@AirgunDetectives]

@@james47450 Believe me .....if I every get a rifle I will do an in-depth review!!!

[@james47450]

@@AirgunDetectives ok thanks for youer help I will call will tomorrow from the rhe air gun department at sig sauer and I will ask them what is the problem

[@paulphoenix]

what scope is that?

[@AirgunDetectives]

Visionking 1.25-5x26 Rifle scope 30 three-pin German #1 Reticle Picatinny Rings.

[@paulphoenix]

@@AirgunDetectives thanks

[@paulphoenix]

@@AirgunDetectives what about supressor, do you any big supressors that will fit on it?

[@AirgunDetectives]

@@paulphoenix anything with a 1/2 28 thread will fit. Many options out there.

[@paulphoenix]

@@AirgunDetectives Hi, or can you reccomend me one, I want a big one

[@james47450]

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[@carlmaynewheeler]

Why doesn’t anyone including you show how to fill the air in these things?

[@Enonymouse_]

Aside from showing where the port is what fittings you'd need, what is so complex that they need to show you?

[@carlmaynewheeler]

E-Nonymouse man I’m ignorant- so ground up showing would be good. You do great videos man so just commenting from a simpleton in this arena.