Sigma males DON'T understand Fight Club | Movie Analysis

[@gabago0l]

I liked the scene in which they saw the bus ad for men's underwear. Both Tyler and the narrator comment negatively on it. The narrator hates the unrealistic body standards for men but at the same time chases and wants those standards as Tyler is merely a projection of what he wants to be. It's interesting how consciously he rejects those standards yet subconsciously he still desires them.

[@string_qbyte]

That isn't what that scene means.

[@Study-tq1yl]

​@@string_qbytethats the beauty of fight club . It has no definitive meaning of any scene . U take what u are

[@string_qbyte]

@@Study-tq1yl No, not really, most of the scenes had an intended meaning, and the intended meaning of that scene was that all of the gym rats are just imitations of what a real man looks like.

[@Study-tq1yl]

@@string_qbyte Yeah but ur perception is limited I m afraid . Tyler is that guy . Tyler is that handsome guy himself with perfect body . The scene mocks bodybuilder and Tyler himself . Look u can think whatever u wanna think that the point of the whole movie . Stop thinking the only way others thinking make ur own way of thinking . Have ur own opinion.

[@elonmusk4490]

Tyler wasn't the persona the narrator wanted to become. Tyler was the persona he needed to hit rock bottom to become who he wanted to be. Tyler was in no way authentic to his own espoused ideals. That was intentional. Marla was the ultimate persona. Tyler said as much. She was the narrator's goal in making Tyler.

[@thisismyboat]

Fightclub tells you that society is leaving us empty and we need to be wary of those willing to take advantage of your emptiness by offering a way to fill the void

[@bardofvoid174]

Honestly, yeah- so many people focus on the fact that society has a pretty big potential to leave us feeling empty, and don't address that that leaves you open to a lot of things and groups that will try to consume you while you're in that vulnerable state, especially while hijacking remnant things you internalized either due to society or to counter to society, or often combinations of both. It's also *really* concerning cause I've even noticed the effect on me where while in one of those groups, while it can help me notice things I didn't notice before, it can also make me dismiss and even straight-up forget other details that don't support it, that would also be important to acknowledge for me to know myself. Life is nuanced, and both safety and compassion are important, and it's important to know when to cycle between letting yourself heal and having a little bit of hope and faith in things.

[@ordinarylittlebastard3248]

And to open up that space for those who are willing to go that distance to both committing to filling each other's voids

[@randomuserinthre]

Real

[@UlissesSampaio]

Also, what about the paradox of having a ripped Brad Pitt (as shown in the following scene) with perfect hair, makeup and fashionable clothes criticize beauty standards in the bus 🚌 ads?

[@emiliosalazar9962]

That guy is not real, is the ideal, that's the whole point of the movie, Tyler is everything the Narrator isn't.

[@UlissesSampaio]

@@emiliosalazar9962 Indeed it shows that his ideal guy is the same as the companies': an underwear/fashion week model. lol

[@sasapocuc6616]

Yes, I was thinking about same thing, it's easy to talk about self destruction and losing everything when you have perfect face, teeth, hair and body like Tyler Durden.

[@emiliosalazar9962]

@@UlissesSampaio Everything the real guy isn't. Brad Pitt is the Ideal. Edward Norton is the Real.

[@joaoryu7106]

It's foreshadowing because the narrator says "Is that what a real man looks like?" While Tyler looks exactly like that but, he isn't a real man.

[@jessebrucepinkman9834]

Tyler is like an anti Andrew Tate. Instead of saying you should be rich and should own expensive stuff and you should make fun of poor people. Tyler is the opposite, he makes fun of rich and poor people, however when they join him he respects theme because they have realised their past life wasn’t truly their life

[@chavailgans2856]

What's also interesting is that Andrew Tate and many other men say you need all this money and expensive stuff to attract women and be the top G, but in Fight Club Marla was the one who initiated interest. She cared about the narrator regardless of his status. The movie ends with him choosing the woman over Tyler which would mean that if women would be receptive, men could find fulfillment with women and embrace love instead of feeling like there's a void and attempting to replace it by acting out in anger or purchasing products... The woman is the answer, but unlike the movie, it seems as if you have to engage in consumerism and be like Tyler to attract the woman in real life. You can control your behavior, you can control money, but you can't control people. Making money hurts because nothing you buy changes how empty you feel and you have to sacrifice time and energy to get the money, getting into fights hurts and even though there's temporary satisfaction coming from the adrenaline and comradery, as explained, Tyler still had no idea of how he would replace the society he despises and wishes to destroy and if the woman ever left him, he would also feel hurt and he has no control over that so almost every option has the potential to leave a person still feeling unfulfilled.

[@z-rex6068]

@@chavailgans2856 Great comment

[@crispykornflakes5990]

Church yo

[@Rick_Cleland]

@@crispykornflakes5990 _"Stop watching porn."_ - *Varg*

[@kant.68]

@@chavailgans2856 Marla is clearly a woman with emotional trumas and all sorts of addictions. Co dependent and used to being treated as an object.

[@thelouisjohnson]

I don't think the love for Tyler Durden is solely related to his hyper-masculine and cultish tendencies. For a minority that may be true, but for me, it feels similar to the reactions to other characters like Joker or Patrick Bateman: they aren't loved because of their actions, they're loved in spite of them - they're loved because of what they represent. So much of masculine identity is about what we provide others and how much of a utility we are to the outside world. In my opinion, these "literally me" characters are so attractive to male audiences because they refuse to compromise for others and instead learn to serve themselves. What makes films like Taxi Driver, Drive or Joker so intoxicating is that it's about male liberation: the whole 'Sigma male' meme. Male characters transcend their own limiting situations/societies and become something more, become their own myths. In a way, it's the same thing as we saw with Jordan Peterson: people (mostly men) didn't admire him because he was politically savvy or contrarian, he was admired because of his belief that there was something more (ancient) for the male character to want to aspire to. In sum, I don't think guys came out of Fight Club feeling like they actually wanted to start their own fight clubs: I feel they came out of Fight Club wanting to own their change. Great video! I'm happy I stumbled upon it in my recommended - keep up the good work!

[@shinmalestat9272]

As with Tyler Durden and Heath Ledger's joker, I respected the philosophy behind the characters. Because, they arent wrong. Their approach to resolving the issues is flawed but I think these characters have found themselves in a situation in which they feel there is no better way to approach the issues they see but to goto the most extreme measures.

[@thelouisjohnson]

@@shinmalestat9272 100% - what they do isn't really desirable, but what they represent through what they do makes them respected. "It's not about money, it's about sending a message."

[@shinmalestat9272]

@@thelouisjohnson Yes, and, they dont represent to us, who have a respect for them because they "represent" masculine attributes. Honestly, their hypermasculinity is rather "toxic" to a degree but what makes them truly masculine is that they have chosen to live for something that is ultimately greater than themselves, which for any man, is a need in life.

[@thelouisjohnson]

@@shinmalestat9272 Walter White is another perfect example. He hurts everyone he loves, but he does it for himself, to transcend his mundane (and criticised) 'just about coping' way of life before. I actually feel they're choosing to live for themselves, through living for something beyond the role others want them to play in the world. It's so interesting, this disquiet is represented in so many male fictional characters but hardly ever talked about in the public sphere.

[@shinmalestat9272]

@@thelouisjohnson The public sphere is very pacificied in my opinion. We are such a wealthy and spoiled culture that most people don't care about serving a purpose higher than getting a weekly pay check, getting high and watching Netflix. Our society is too content. But that disquiet is also in a great many of us who see others obtaining what we long for. For example, my great aspiration is to write and tell stories. I have many ideas, alot of work already started and even a novel in near completion. Yet, the last six months of 60 hour work weeks has left me so exhausted that Ive not been able to nib a single word to continue one of my projects. And I know I have the talent and skill to do well but Im nowhere in a mindset to pull together words to convey meaning. And honestly, I just want to quit my job and focus on me but I have a family and bills and no other income. The disquiet is knowing that we are capable of more.

[@veasna5244]

But, but... Tyler is literally me.

[@mr.meme5907]

You need to sell soap. It makes money.

[@jr5993]

@@mr.meme5907 😂

[@mr.meme5907]

@@jr5993 why do people put peoples names on their underwear? I understand naming your dick. But not the underwear.

[@Masta2Playa]

I highly doubt

[@arthurzetes]

The narrator didn’t kill Tyler to be with Marla. He killed Tyler because he saw Tyler had gone too far

[@gonzuff6416]

Or he killed Tyler because he has become what Tyler wants to make him and he don't need him anymore

[@houragents5490]

There are a lot of these "literally me" type characters that people idolize but don't truly understand.

[@middler5]

Probably because they don't understand themselves.

[@monke5403]

youre clearly the on who doesnt understand considering youre MEANT to idolize tyler from both the narrative of the story and the actual authors opinion themself lol midwit normie.

[@aduosgameplay7070]

It’s not always a bad thing it show how a good written is the character that people understand them and see their own life problems in them , problem is that some people see very bad side of things

[@joeymedina7115]

Probably cause it’s literally a meme. Very few people say they are the joker or Bateman or Tyler unironically. Most of us know it’s just a funny meme. Yes there’s things that are cool and we like about them but we don’t actually want to be a mentally ill psycho clown villain. That does sound cool tho.

[@John_Malka-tits]

But have you tried understanding this dick, Edboy?

[@braydencoversbeatles4029]

On my first watch, I rationalized everything Tyler did. I immediately related to the narrator, and when Tyler came and completely changed his life, I was rooting for him because he put the narrator in a situation I wished I was in. When I walked out of the theater I wanted my own Tyler. On later rewatches I understood the whole point, but before that I didn't. The interesting thing is that before watching it I despised people like Andrew Tate and didn't understand their appeal at all, but Tyler spoke to me the same way Tate did to all those other men.

[@mk-fu6dc]

the fact that some dudes are taking this video wayyyyy too personally is very telling tbh💀

[@gonzalo6890]

This movie is great cause it speaks about different topics and themes with a single message. It can also be interpreted as a movie about nihilism. It's ironic how in the search for freedom from society and controlling forces, the narrator and cultists get caught up in this mission that they as a group become controlled by the idea of rebellion and nihilism. The movie ends the same way it starts, with destruction, being mental or physical. Edit: so for me the message is this one: Freedom from society and consumerism shouldn't include destroying the world as we know it, that can't be the answer.

[@shibe5877]

I am incredibly impressed with this and I'm honestly shocked you dont have more subs. This felt like such a breath of fresh air in the sea of other video analyses that completely miss half the point of the movie.

[@jessebrucepinkman9834]

Loads of fight clubs ‘sigmas’ hate gay people despite the fact the book the movie is based on was written by a gay person and both version have an underlying homosexual theme about them

[@P34RL_D1V3R]

Especially when In the movie, The Narrator get's jealous of Angel Face and literally disfigures his face.

[@uriyokki]

i understood. but my point is to end society.

[@MrDxtr090]

at this point it would be as logical as using task manager

[@rabd3721]

This misunderstanding happens all the time with deliberately toxic male characters. Tyler Durden, Walter White, Bojack Horseman, Travis Bickle, etc. It's one thing to find an aspect of their persona that's relatable. It's another to straight up idolize them.

[@ellapaulson1597]

Agreed!! And to add to that list, all the Patrick Bateman memes, how did the literal "American Psycho" become so idolised?

[@monke5403]

You’re quite literally meant to idolize Tyler durden, he represents how you wish you were. We all have a Tyler durden. This video is so fucking soy and cringe, this whole “DURR you didn’t understand the movie, I did though! Now I’ll tell you how you’re supposed to interpret it” take is so cold and boring. Get more nuanced takes next time normie.

[@monke5403]

also how is Travis Bickle one of those characters? I feel like youve never even seen Taxi Driver if that is your take lmao, he ltierally FREED A 12 YEAR OLD PR*ST*TUTE LMAO

[@Player-gn3dc]

I know that the 1st three are literally me. Whomst is Travis Bickle? What show is he from so I can expand my witty one liners at parties?

[@rabd3721]

@@Player-gn3dc Lol "literally me?" **insert They Don't Even Know meme**

[@builtra]

Part of this is true. Part of the video by moon is also true. In my opinion loneliness is fixed through genuine connections. However it is also fixed with a genuine connection with your real self aka masculinity . He killed Tyler to become his real self ( getting freedom by being free from him) and becoming more of a man to be able to enjoy the connection with her. Although keep in mind she fell in love with him while he was Tyler. So now that he essentially became his own version of Tyler he can now enjoy real connections. What I took from it is to find yourself through your own connection as that is what masculinity really is. Once found you will enjoy more deeper connections

[@autisticbluesloth5244]

Masculinity is stupid because it doesn't exist

[@derPapierschredder]

No, the moon video is completely wrong. The thing about the true self is, that it is different for everyone. Maybe for you it's achieving "peak masculinity". In the end, Tyler has become everything he despises about capitalism. He's a cult leader, setting unrealistic standards for its members and blaming scapegoats for his problems and insecurities. I mean, fight club LITERALLY becomes a franchise. By killing him, the narrator kills of his toxic masculinity. Notice also how he sends his goons away at the end, with only Marla staying, showing there is no real connection between him and Fight Club.

[@krulak292]

@@derPapierschredder no such thing as toxic masculinity

[@sadjj]

@@krulak292emasculation comes from a glorified representation of men, that is toxic masculinity.

[@phamethetrue]

I appreciate this video and the perspective, I understand you’re trying to also bring perspective to people who might not be noticing a very important part of the story, but you have to understand that Tyler‘s anarchist ways may have been completely blown out of proportion by the end… but you cannot forget that there is no creation without destruction and in order for the narrator to even figure that out he had to create a monster and learn to control it. which is why by the end of the movie he became a perfect balance between the narrator and Tyler. Also Marla isn’t as innocent as you might have described. She was only consistently interested because of the balancing act of cold heartedness and affection which only points more towards the direction of the balance that is required of having a monster inside of you but also being able to control it. Remember, Marla describe the relationship to the t and she still stayed yes , it is because she cared but it’s also because of the peaked interest that Tyler has sparked. Demonstrating that you cannot be the nice guy and the provider you must have balance.

[@brachoradialis]

And in the end Edward Norton kills his self created monster and goes to the next level and created a new supermonster to learn how he can control this thing. And the new guy in town was HULK.

[@danielweirich3512]

Tyler is my hero because he is everything I need to work on. Mainly, not giving a crap what people think. "What do you wish you'd done before you die?!" "LET GO!!!!"

[@randommaddlhat7358]

Dude, you can do what you want, but let me give you one advice. Having a character to idolize - regardless wether it is fictional or a real person - is the most unuseful thing one can do. This world works in systems, not individuals. If you meet a person that resembles the Tyler Durden type, they will probably exploit the crap out of you, especially you, as you seem highly suggestible, exactly because they're "not giving a crap what people think." I met one of this fuckers and he nearly destroyed my life. And they're not evil people with bad plans for you, they're just allowed by the system to establish hierarchies in their social environment as they're dominating everything. For the same reason, masses are falling for guys like Hitler, Mussolini or Stalin on a regular basis. It's not a healthy way to handle society.

[@blake2697]

I disagree with the title, but I agree with a lot of points made in the video. Men relate to Tyler in that they feel a lack of fulfillment in this post-modern capitalist consumerism hell-hole. People want to return to something primal, something real. Fight club is just that, emasculated men go to feel something. To become a real man. When someone says a character is relatable, that doesn't mean they're idolizing them. Tyler is relatable in the sense he's unfulfilled and dissatisfied with the society he lives in. People don't idolize anything about him, especially not after he becomes a cult leader and terrorist on accident.

[@kantar007]

bro tf how does this only have 300 views W video my guy

[@treasonouspigeonpeckers957]

The movie started slow but it quickly sped up. Puts you on a roller coaster

[@cryptofacts4u]

The narrator doesn't have insomnia He has testicular cancer and has dissociated from that Remember this is an unreliable narrator, and in the scene where the doctor is supposedly subscribing him to go to a testicular support group, You can see the narrator dissociating, Tyler pops up for one second. What's way more likely is that he has had testicular cancer and has either had his balls removed already or is going to and is feeling anxious, and the doctor is prescribing him something for that anxiety, the Xanax that we see in Marla's hotel room, and advising him to go to a support group for the thing that he needs support with But since he's dissociating, he starts growing to tons of different support groups

[@tonyp.bahama9368]

Never looked at it that way, you may be right

[@ColonelJames]

The whole story in Fight Club is a metaphor for Chuck Palanyuk's (writer of the novel) latent homosexuality. Tyler is the tough straight dude who he wants to be (with), and Marla is the neurotic woman he identifies with unwillingly. In the end, when he 'gets together' with Marla, it's a metaphor that he finally overcome the stigma of being gay and accepted himself. This is underlined by the short frame of a penis in this scene.

[@HufflepuffDaddy]

Well, imo the insertion clip means the Tyler Durden persona secretly edited the film Fight Club, just as he did as a theatre worker in the film, and it could mean the narrator has reached heterosexual maturity and can finally have relationships with girls like Marla if he can "kill off" or at least control the alpha Tyler Durden personality within himself, a personality split that help free him from his empty beta consumerist existence in the first place. That said, we all can see what we wanna see in Fight Club and have different interpretations of it.

[@krulak292]

tf you on about lol

[@justmeeagainn]

Stupidest comment ever.

[@savbeeing7376]

​@@krulak292 Hi kir i mean joryu

[@iloriolaoluwa4128]

You're wrong, masculinity is different from destruction & childishness. Embrace freedom, masculinity & femininity.

[@JonVaillancourtPro]

No; the Narrator integrates the shadow self represented by Tyler, achieving maturity.

[@thetwopunchman6113]

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[@nepu47]

Two more Things to add: First, The death of Bob. Even after fight club was built, Bob is still a friend for a narrator. A narrator really cared about him, For example, the "space monkeyt test scene". The film editted it, but I can imagine that A narrator would say something like this : "Hey, Bob, Don`t go. Listen me. This is just a, what to say, special homework. When Tyler mocked you, Tyler didn`t really mean it. This is just another homework to endure. If you just wait here in 3 days, You could be a special member. Don`t leave. Okay?" But when Bob died, Bob didn`t become the one who is missed and mourned by his friends, like a real person. He became a symbol, a *brand* for dead people of project mayhem. A BRAND JUST LIKE CONSUMERISM. It was technically done by other members, and a narrator was mad at them. "Technically" A narrator and Tyler is a a same person, so Bob would be a special person to him too, right? but NO. Tyler durden DOSEN`T care about him. Tyler just used Bob as an asset for HIS project. Just like attempts to kill Marla, He just used his friend for his sake. Secondly, Tyler durden(and a narrator) is a lucky guy in history. He is in "Generation X", who was born lucky to feel emptiness in age 30. As he said, The great war is not there for 90s, The great depression is not there for 90s. Instead, We see the different world now. 9.11(2001) happend after 2 years of this movie(1999), Iraq war(2003) began after 4 years.The bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers(2008) is after 9 years. Everyone looks carefully at Ukrine even now. We don`t feel "emptiness", We feel "desperation" for surviving. Yes, Consumerism is still here, but many of us ALREADY don`t have a lot of things to lose. His message, at least for me and for now, is a hollow howling, outdated one.

[@b1thearchitect401]

I agree! But it's baffling that grown adults need this point to be explained lol - Both violent domestic terrorist cult leaders and completely emasculated lifeless corproate drones are critiqued and satirized equally in this film IMO. Tyler Durden is a comedically exaggerated caricature conjured by the mind of a weak, desperate man who finally snapped

[@Yocbewilderen_]

Finally... A complete, meaningful and actual analysis of Fight Club. Great work, mate. Keep it up❣️

[@mackychloe]

Anyone here a fan of the theory that Marla isn't actually real. She's basically his feminine side battling against the masculine,

[@tim_hoffman]

FINALLY, some good fucking Fight Club analysis

[@youryoutubeyoda]

>”Okay, so I will remain a sigma by not understanding it.” >Refuses to elaborate further >Leaves without watching the video

[@mumflrpumble9107]

"Umm akchually you're misunderstanding the point by not trying to become a terrorist" 🤓

[@Kenix-k-x]

What kind of point are you trying to prove with your comment?

[@wolfereignowns1154]

There is no freedom being sold by Tyler Durden nor an escape from society only new rules put in place by a new smaller society.

[@angrytheclown801]

Oh Tyler does sell freedom to a point. Until the clubs start everything he says is good solid advice. That's why it's so insidious. And if you view the clubs as a good point but too extreme, you can even draw wisdom from that. I like to embrace my own masculinity in less painful and violent ways for a return to feeling normal. It's at Project Mayhem his lessons become another trap. The cult he sets up. These are when you'd find yourself bound up into just another insane, impossible set of rules.

[@ananda_miaoyin]

Fight Club was the extended music video of Twisted Sister's "We're not gunna take it!" What do you want to do with your life?! I WANNA ROCK!!!

[@colgateer6952]

how easy it is to lose yourself in this world. Sometimes I wonder if I exist at all. If I found some interesting hobby, am I interested in it because I want it to determine me as a person or no? And do I really need this at all? Did I buy a book because I am a consumer and the title of the book got me interested or I really need this information? were my wishes put by a third hand or is it really my wish? I'm not sure if I control my life

[@oyveyshalom]

In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law...? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will.

[@Wtvifeellike]

“he offers no system to take its place” correct, its almost like thats entirely what anarchy is

[@shylo8]

I mean, you are partly right, but do you have an alternative? If I shouldn't idolize a masculine chad with true freedom to do whatever he wants, what should I do? Take small victories every now and then? We weren't made for this castrated world we live in. The only outlet we men have is watching sportsball or things like the gym. What else do we have? How many men would choose(the obviously idealized version) of a roman soldier, serving with a purpose and getting a piece of land and woman to call your own at the end of it, instead of selling couches and other furniture with focus on "customer care&safety" as mandated by HR ?

[@oyveyshalom]

Live like Varg i guess lol

[@shylo8]

@@oyveyshalom Having 6 kids, milking the state and a qt loyal autist wife sounds like a plan

[@oyveyshalom]

@@shylo8 A boat, Money, and mangoes.

[@noahraab2429]

I prefer not dying in combat.

[@randommaddlhat7358]

No one can tell you what you should do. But I have a plan what you can do to become a decent human being in a society unfitting for the evolutionary conditions of man WITHOUT being a psychopath literally giving a fuck about everyone. All the things you value as manly are highly problematic in itself because they deny the way that humans used to live until the last 10,000 years and that their psyche and their genes would need to form a stable image of themselves. Why for example wanting to be a roman soldier? Or let's say, even one in the Second World War? You obviously suggest, that they had a purpose to live for (like land, the comrades or a woman) and that something in the latter 20th century changed so that men would only sell "chouches and other furniture", which is then seen as unmanly. Well, historically, that's BS. Fighting for an empire is in fact not a purpose one single ounce more desirable as selling stuff in late capitalism, because both are based on imaginations. A state is not a tangible thing and so isn't a corporation. There might be the idea of comradery in war which is obviously not present in individualist consumer spaces but isn't it pretty damn tragic to see your friends, people of flesh and blood that you feel a real connection to, dying or getting mutilated for an idea, that is to shatter at one point in history anyway? Or take for example love. Love is an indespensable good for many people, men as women. But if you look how sexual relationships formed historically (or as the manosphere would say: "How to get laid.") it is not by behaving like an outstanding superhuman as Tyler Durden, who would sell them the idea that he is a high value man that is worth being fucked a thousand times. The reality though is insanely profane: For ten thousands of years, you would be in a tribe were those connections formed over family bonding or convenience. And still today, most relationships form over being in a circle of people, like a friend group, a neighbourhood, work-spaces etc. It is not the norm to run around with your head aiming up in the air, thinking you were the greatest MF on earth and asking out every pretty girl under the age of 30 crossing your path. Believe me, Tyler Durden is the projection of a man as we would see 'em if we liked Deadpool and thought that sex is attached to being more than a man. So, here's my idea how to achieve purpose in life. First: try to be open to other people (and not thinking of them as stupid consumers that need to be led in a revolution, you're in that machine too my friend), maybe some of them will turn out as close friends that you counteract with on eye level. Second, remind yourself, that people are not evil or dumb or whatever, they are trapped in systems that feed themselves and make it hardly possible to escape them. And third, you can do very little about this as an individual, but this on the other hand is the most of purpose, that you can achieve. Be content with seeing through that machine at one point or the other, and maybe, if you have the time, engage in political projects, that aim at integrating more common people in politics and establish an alternative to aristocratic party-policy. Because this is the main driver of a lack of sense in our modern political system and also of the idea, that fascist movements could re-install a grail of truthfulness to humanity. Of course, this wouldn't work in practice, because fascism is just the rebellion against the fact, that the level of social bonds that existed in tribal age will never be achieved again.

[@BboyDschafar]

The reinterpretation of this masterpiece in the recent cultural debate on masculinity is interesting to me. As I watched the movie the first time, I considered it a nihilistic masterpiece, above all else. Marla is the person that makes the narrator question his nihilistic idealisation in terms of Tyler Durden. Only in retrospect can we project our notion of "toxic" masculinity into Tyler Durden.

[@aaronchef82]

I’m here from the thumbnail. Just a thought: Classifying makes into categories is an identification strategy. But, IMO, it over simplifies dynamism in personality.

[@williamdixon-gk2sk]

This is something we all need a part of. I was a kinda wimpy kid in '04, In high school. My girlfriend gave me a copy of this film, then we started fighting each other(not my girl, my friends obviously, the kids who felt different) at lunchtime. For fun. then those bullies never looked the same. When you have a black eye or a fat-lip nobody can back you down an inch. It was maybe the Hard way but two of my best friends straight dropped me back in the day, one died and the other is a successful business man so what, do you wanna die without any scars?

[@infradig696]

sigma males don't understand basic math

[@monke5403]

Where is the correlation between fight club and math LMAOOOO

[@infradig696]

@@monke5403 the comment isn't in reference to fight club, genius. It's in reference to your ability to understand basic math, and jokes apparently.

[@UNcappedRAVEN]

This might be the best analysis of this film I have seen so far, awesome video thank you for making it.

[@Ballinout30]

I love this analysis. Keep up the good work.

[@captainfury497]

We didn't misunderstand it,on the contrary we aim to be just as despicable as them

[@NuIndustrialMetalcore]

We didn't misunderstand it. We're just okay with the consequences of the cautionary tale because it's better than what we're living.

[@autisticbluesloth5244]

Then go fix it, lazy

[@NuIndustrialMetalcore]

@@autisticbluesloth5244 and that's the point we got from Fight Club.

[@thesocialpenguin9927]

It’s not better, they end up in the same position under Tyler

[@Goutham1826]

Hello terrorist

[@TotalTech2.]

Fight Club is all about connecting with people the author said so himself. Consumerism is only a symptom of a greater problem. We isolate ourselves from other people and can no longer connect. Ultimately Tyler was the narrator's desperate urge to connect with someone or something which is why the support groups caused Tyler to regress. Even though the narrator wasn't dying, he was still connecting and thus didn't need Tyler.

[@_Kaori_Miyazono_]

Indeed, correct I agree

[@solidsnake5398]

I like him, because he lead us to the first commune

[@Deniz55995]

Shitting is a must wiping is a choice (Martin L King

[@jungian70]

Hope many people get this video recommended

[@lindenstromberg6859]

“You are not your job.” Yeah, but Kevin Smith did that exact theme 6 years earlier in Clerks… just as a comedy instead of a dark comedy… although some of the jokes are quite dark.

[@androrobuiques9497]

Why are you talking about fight club?

[@Oragne69]

Fight club has always been a narrative about the depth of mental illness to me. Maybe cos me, a mentally I’ll person, watched it and it spoke to mee. I felt understood

[@jonhstonk7998]

it does not matter what the original message of the movie was, people who admire Tyler Durdeen more often then not do understand that he wasnt meant to be an idol....but we just dont care anyways because Tyler, the taxi driver, the joker...they represent a sort of rebelion that a lot of young men(including me) wish to perform, a hatred of the world around us due to the fact that this world lied to us: we were the kids born between 1990 and 2005 and we were promissed that if we studied hard, worked hard, paid our taxes, fought for our countries and always did the right thing we were set: we could expect to eventually find love, build families, own propriety and be freeman with some measure of prosperity flowing from honest labour...this was a lie, we got backstabbed every step of the way, the women we were told would be kind and loving to us hate us for no real reason other then being told to hate us, owning propriety is still possible its just not realistically probable, honest labour alone doesnt make you wealthy anymore and you have to either work extra or find ways to ¨game the system¨ legally or illegaly, the taxes we were told to pay eat up over half the income of the average taxepayer in some cases, so now most of us are either in our late teens, early 20s or late 20s and we are seeing that the school system didnt taught us anything useful, the jobs we were promissed are barely enough to make ends meat for us let alone a family, women want nothing to do with most of us as we dont hit their standards and we cant even realistically own propriety, institutions we were taught were trustworthy such as government, law enforcement, welfare, government agencies and even the institution of democratic republics themselves have repeatedly failed us or worked against our well being at the same time insitutions we were told to not believe in such as religion or military-like institutions are actually the only ones which did not failed us or at least did not harmed us, we look at the prosperity we were told we would have, the broken promisses of love and prosperity and we get understandably angered by this, some of us go on real deep and start studying the past...and we notice that in the past people seem to be happier then we are now, so we subscribe to ideological models we identify with be it extreme right, extreme left, unaligned extremism...doesnt matter we just want something to be different then it is now, because if things remain as they are we will never be trully happy and fulfilled as our forefathers were. Tyler and these other ¨literally me¨ characters represent this fantastical rebelion many of us would genuinely subscribe to...hell the 21st century just started who knows? maybe we will subscribe to some manner of rebelion one day...so that we may one day be happy and then guarantee this happiness to whatever desandants of ours we have.

[@oyveyshalom]

now yuo see...

[@idromano]

"the women we were told would be kind and loving to us hate us for no real reason other then being told to hate us" please...

[@jonhstonk7998]

@@idromano is pretty much how it is, I don´t remember ever doing anything to be called a ¨rape culture apologist¨ by feminists in my college for the Oh so damning crime of going to the gym and being straight(normal). No Taliban or neo nazi ever called me a monster.

[@jonhstonk7998]

@@idromano No Taliban, Russian or ¨ far-right activist¨ ever called me an Incel.

[@davidkunte973]

Great video. Thanks for that insight

[@nealabbott6520]

the real twist is that marla, bob, and everything about FC/OM is just as unreal as tyler. it all takes place in jack's head

[@clax5699]

“help is other people”

[@AP_123_]

That was great, well done!

[@hyper-lethal-sigma3]

I myself never understood how men trade there masculinity for consumerism and boy teen ideals

[@francescocassara3963]

Why is Tyler smoking a lot of cigarettes despite being anti consumerism?

[@vishveshtadsare3160]

Also alcohol

[@oyveyshalom]

He's a walking contradiction

[@susietyinhabitor526]

"consumerism is when you smoke"

[@Coldest1_]

He must of stole them

[@luunars]

@@susietyinhabitor526you think he doesn’t have a favorite brand?

[@joeymedina7115]

I guess some people don’t understand memes. Very few people say they are the joker or Bateman or Tyler unironically. Most of us know it’s just a funny meme. Yes there’s things that are cool and we like about them but we don’t actually want to be a mentally ill psycho clown villain. That does sound cool tho.

[@John_Malka-tits]

Hey Joey. Did joker "WANT" to be a psycho Clown villian?

[@spacemann1425]

A lot of people do say it now

[@spacemann1425]

@@John_Malka-tits yes

[@NishantSingh-qe7vv]

Leave anarchy ,adopt masculanity with responsibility

[@Garudan0804]

Adopt a grammar lesson

[@Goutham1826]

Adopt a father

[@urekmazino2086]

“Umm actually Tyler Durden is horrible person and you shouldn’t be like him”🤓🤓 “I know, I aspire to be as horrible as them” 😃

[@monke5403]

I hate all of these movie nerds that act like they got the movie and we’re the ones misinterpreting it lmaoo. Tyler is meant to be idolized.

[@n0rth426]

@Monke Exactly, after watching the film men should feel apart of Tyler’s cult of personality

[@fernandob2275]

Tyler never went against responsibility. That’s the point, the responsibility of starting over is on the one destroying everything to start again. The video was good up until the last 2mins.

[@gocommitanime5217]

9:07 The shade 💀💀

[@reb-dom1ne]

I know Tyler Durden is a terrible person. I want to be like him.

[@lindenstromberg6859]

I see it mainly as a dark comedy surrounding an unusual midlife crisis at a younger than usual age. Gen Z has a tendency to like to recontextualize everything as a “crisis of masculinity” when that’s not what the book or film are about. Millennials, about 10-15 years earlier we’re more on the mark when they were recontextualizing it as a failure of neoliberal promises, which is pretty close to the failure of the multitude of Gen X people who grew up with yuppie aspirations, and then rebelled when it didn’t pan out. It wasn’t just the theme of Fight Club, but the theme of early 1990s culture in general.

[@jakubecho]

Nice video. Subbed.

[@mrHorrorLIVE]

I understood your video completely, however Tyler Durden is still litellary me. Even tho you say that Tyler brings only a temporary solution, i still want the destuction of society.

[@emiliosalazar9962]

If this video doesn't include Chuck Palahniuk's interviews with Joe Rogan, it is a total failure, a guy who misunderstood Fight Club accusing others of not understanding fight club.

[@monke5403]

Exactly lmao, this has to be a psy op or something.

[@chinesegovernment4395]

When you talking about void, i dont think i was a good idea to put the picture of most dense object in the universe

[@gunterdurden]

i love tyler because he hates the capitalist societym he's literally me

[@snoo333]

Interesting ideas. thanks bro

[@SurnaturalM]

These characters represent the men vs. society archetypes, just like in the book from Albert Camus, "the stranger," the Joker, the central character of "taxi driver," and many more. I think people idolise these characters because they feel put aside and powerless in a society that has changed a lot in little times. I never had any troubles to adapt and functions within society, and I'm also lucky that even being a very average guy, I've never experienced any issues finding friends, hobbies, and girlfriends, at different steps in my life. I think I'm very lucky. That's probably why these movies and books are interesting, but I never idolised or identify with these characters. Beyond the plots, they don't have any appeal to me.

[@Delta_Edits.]

what if he is literally me because i am a anarcho-primitivist domestic terrorist?

[@Merandil]

Well then you're not just Literally Him, but also based and Ted-pilled

[@Ogfunkymonkey]

Um… bro… Tyler doesn’t exist. The man is insane… and developed a second personality. However I like this video and your perspective of the characters. 👍

[@Fightclubfan69]

People dont understand what anarchy really is, its not chaos its freedom and equality for the people, abolishment of any ruler, people tend to think that anarchy is promoting chaos and destruction when its actually doing the opposite, you can watch videos from actual anarchists to find out ig

[@TheRowches]

nah bro you don't understand, Tyler durden is literally me

[@SpxcyMxyo]

We have all broken the first rule.

[@spacer481]

I think i got the point right… Chicks like brad pitt more than regular guys

[@neMgieTV]

Great vid

[@natratcritter]

I don't think you understand. He is literally me tho. I cannot and will not stress this enough. I am an anarchist megalomaniac with insomnia and I will not be told otherwise. I am more awake than ever but more importantly, I don't adhere to societal norms and values plus my dad stepped out of my life too. I will shape my own destiny and reject redemption since we are gods unwanted children. I am something more than an idea. I seek to not only free myself but to also free others from the shackles of tyranny. I am free in all the ways others are not. We are the all singing all dancing crap of this world. I am jack's raging bile duct.

[@grassclass3315]

Common sigma kid L

[@humanspider37]

the author said u should as a young man give up part of your life to a craft or learning from your an experienced veteran to overcome. in this case the narrator had tyler, and some of tylers beliefs like the bar scene or small talk should be praised not what he does

[@zdravkogeorgiev7201]

Great video

[@jakubhladil5340]

Its not about masculinity, its about being human in society, it applies to women also. But I get it “masculinity” gets views. Because consumerism makes you want to be the man.

[@cryptofacts4u]

Marla Singer isn't real End of Fight Club is the Narrator choosing to live as Marla

[@infallibleinterpreter]

I feel like all the edits miss the point of the film. To me it’s about taking control of your life and this idolisation of Tyler is the same as when the Narrator idolises consumerism. It’s all the same just buying what someone else tells you to buy weather it be a product or a belief. This is why the Narrator has to kill Tyler in order to become free and take control of his life.

[@mk-fu6dc]

i agrer jesus very based take :)👍

[@alaypatel6050]

Well explained 👍👍👍

[@thecommentator9181]

Another thing in which Tyler's view fails is that the fact that being a consumerist has left the narrator so empty that he can't envision being happy while owning things. Instead of, I don't know, going to therapy, meeting new people, or trying to forge meaningful bonds, he blows up his own apartment to "start from zero", and throws this tantrum the video talks about where he pushes that ideology onto other people, which is how cults spread.

[@cryptofacts4u]

In the end, the narrator kills Tyler to BE Marla

[@jessebrucepinkman9834]

Why do people think being muscular and rich makes you a man? The narrator disproved all of that in the movie, he is poor, he is skinny and yet he fights like a man

[@justmeeagainn]

People are screwed. Society is screwed. This movie just makes that all clear. Nothing has changed. It’s gotten worse. Tyler was right; tear it all down. Tear down Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. It all needs to go. Don’t let goody videos like this rob your spirit. Be men. Be free.

[@beniuhdmi3084]

The narrator also has a lack of sleep, that caused him to experience schizophrenia lol

[@someguyinazoo]

Don’t be Patrick Bateman,Tyler Durden,Andre Tate,Walter White, Anton Chigrh or any of them. Just let go

[@ShadalooPlayer]

People dont want to be them, they just like whta they represent

[@nathancawley8759]

Why do we need to replace the system? If you ever manage to undo the bindings of society and free yourself of the malicious greed of the average man, the corporation, or the religious organization... why would you then choose to re-shackle yourself to another innately flawed system? How do I know it would be flawed? Entropy. Loss is inevitable, and the social structures we create only serve as a means of pushing that loss off of yourself and on to somebody else. You should never cede authority of your life to anybody but you, is the lesson the movie tried to teach. The narrator first ceded authority to society, then Tyler, and finally Marla. This *was* a cautionary tale, but it cautioned us about giving control of our lives to anybody outside of yourself. If you disagree with me, GOOD! You arent allowing me to have any control over you. There is a reason the paper street house didnt have modern amenities. There is a reason that Fight Club's first rule was "Do not talk about Fight Club"... we cannot succeed if we follow the rules set by others. There is a reason that the first rule of Project Mayhem was "You do not ask questions"... we cannot succeed if we offer blind obedience to anybody but ourselves. So I'll tell you, talk about Fight Club and ask questions. Now that you have conflicting orders, all thats left is for you to decide "Fuck this shit, Ill figure it our myself and do what *I* want to do."

[@Petehimothy]

I think Tyler’s philosophy is similar to Ted the Unabomber in his manifesto he says the same thing Tyler does and his solution was the same as him

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

The narrator is a closeted homosexual who wishes he was straight like Tyler

[@looper8457]

Well said

[@chrislail3824]

Oh man, y’all are going to hate the two sequels..