How to Install a Carpet Runner on Winding Stairs

How to Install a Carpet Runner on Winding Stairs, Here is one of my Latest Vids on Carpet Runner Installation,
On This Job We Install a Carpet Runner From Straight Stairs to Curved Stairs( Or Winding Staircase) This is a long form Video that is Narrated By Yours Truly, with Loads of tips of How to Install Carpet with a Play by Play Feel.
Enjoy. Keith

[@patrickscanlan9567]

Can you please tell us the stapler brand and model # that you use? Also, I think you said the staples were 3/8" high, what is the width of the staples as well?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Patrick Scanlan it is the Duo fast carpet pro! With Duo fast 5400 series staples....I just bought a new one and will do a video on it for you😀

[@patrickscanlan9567]

@@KeithShannonDirectCarpet That's great thanks Keith! Please lets know when you've done the stapler video :)

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

@@patrickscanlan9567 will get it out this week

[@timb.9224]

Great work Keith, I've been installing carpet for nearly 30 years and I know some stair cases can be a bit tricky but you make it look easy. Its awesome to see you take great pride in the work you do !

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Tim B. Thanks Tim 👍

[@saulp24]

Very nice work!! Im carpet installer and i learned a lot from your video. You are good !!!thank you

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

thanks so Much!

[@FrankLin-gc2tp]

I wanted thank you for posting such a quality video. I learned a lot and saved a lot by following your detailed explanation!

[@FrankLin-gc2tp]

Wished they allowed me to post pictures to show off😁

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

that's amazing!

[@scflooring8658]

Great video and great tip on the 1.5 inch angled cut!

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Thanks again😀

[@downonafarm177]

You are a craftsman. Great work!

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Rick Craft thanks Rick!

[@johnsiragusa1462]

like you said it is like installing plywood but i tame the beast by hot water mist the backing, use 3 row pin tackless called J pin (short pins ) also i have cut out of 6 inch vinyl wood 1 1/2 to 7 1/2 blocks to keep it measured & straight, and place a block about 3 steps up & pin it to keep it from twisting as i am working bottom up . GREAT JOB *****

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

I’d like to try that😄😄😄😄😄

[@jacobbuckley8232]

U like the square tip blades over the rounded

[@chrismatas5890]

Hey Keith, Yeah each stair curls the same as the stair 26 inch etc, to whatever size the runner is. I know you’re based out of the west side of Toronto we will get together and would love to create a video with you soon thanks for replying back hope to hear from you soon cheers

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

I have a video coming out today! Spiral staircase! All templated! Anderson tuftex! Send me an email to [e-mail] and we can exchange cell numbers😀😀😀

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Hey Chris did you send me an email?

[@richdeighton9299]

Great job Keith, do you have any videos of you taking the template of the stairs first before being ready to fit

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

There is a few videos on templating stairs on pie shaped stairs on my channel, same process, I will have a template video on spiral stairs very soon 😀

[@simmmo66]

Great video mate. Was wondering if you can show or explain how you get your measurements to set-up for overlocking? Especially for the larger winder steps and landings. Thanks again for the great video.

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

can you explain to me a little more so im clear on what you mean

[@simmmo66]

@@KeithShannonDirectCarpet Hi mate, thanks for getting back to me. I found a video you did that explains what I needed. You set-up the layout with tape and a roll of paper. Then you used the paper as a template for overloking. Thats exactly what I needed to know. Im quoting this job atm and feel I have a much clearer direction now. Thank you so much. Keep up the great work, I have subscribed. Cheers Paul.

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

@@simmmo66 perfect😀😀😀🤙

[@fabienbesch8010]

👍

[@chrismatas5890]

I actually created a template for the pie stairs were you don’t need to take an inch and 3 quarters off per stair. I do Stanton and tuftex all the time. It curls with the stair hit me back would love to share and talk with a fellow installer based out of the east end Toronto

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Are you talking about actuality making each stair to size the same all the way up? If so I’d love to hear about that method! 😀😀😀😀 love to come by and film you in action!!!

[@als1023]

Out in BC the carpet binder has me create templates,, ( I use Ram Board type floor covering paper) to make templates for the winders. These pieces of carpet have the riser as well as the tread. This way there is no concern at the nosing of the carpet coming loose because of a joint under the nosing. The riser is cut straight by the binder and the tread is left long for trimming by the installer. Great video, thanks for posting !

[@kannanaiyar5291]

I am a DIYer planning to try this. On the wedge shaped 40" tread, measured about 6 - 7" from each side, the right side of the runner would span about 9", and the left edge would need to span 12". So the difference is about 3". It is not very clear on the video, but are you making a 1 1/2" angle cut at both sides of the piece of runner to come up with a total difference of 3"?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

I only angle cut one side and that is the short side or railing side /

[@nonaldb6721]

Hi great job! Just wanted to know what type of underlay runner you're using ? My goal is too make the walking up and down as quiet as possible since it would be for flat stairs (bedrooms on each side). I'm in France, not sure what I should go for : the kind of material you use (recycled polyurethane?), felt type, cork/rubber mix or yoga mat type foam? and in what thickness for max quietening results and most durable in time ? (The runner will be a thick carpet) Thanks a million!

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Thanks for the question Amaud! On every job that we do, we use at least a ten mill gold top foil pad and this pad works great it is a recycled pad and it has a great longevity! I think you should look for a dense pad minimum ten millimetre thick 😄👍

[@nonaldb6721]

@@KeithShannonDirectCarpet Cheers! So that polyurethane option would be the the best for sound dampening I take it. Also, have you ever used the felt type under room carpets? does it compressed itself over time?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

@@nonaldb6721 I have seen felt before it seems pretty thin and when we rip it out it’s very dirty and messy. I think your good with the recycled pad👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@lorenzovienna934]

Amazing work thank you for your videos. Is there a link or brand on the runner your using like to do this one.

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

We are working hard on our website directcarpet.com this carpet will be for sale shortly when we launch. If you need asap just drop me a note [e-mail]

[@lorenzovienna934]

@@KeithShannonDirectCarpet thanks

[@mohammedhafeez7234]

Top job thank you is the width same or different?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

The width is the same on the flat part of the stairs but as the stairs turn the stair riser will be longer

[@XiongSir]

Good work. What's the length of nail then. Thanks.

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Lyman Xiong I assume you mean staple. I believe they are 3/8

[@francesm.1768]

Can you install carpet runners on carpeted stairs as well? We have very bright carpets so I’m looking to install a dark carpet runner on winding stairs. (My dog is always running up and down)

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Not recommended maybe a plastic runner not sure what to tell you! Sorry

[@russsherry5343]

Just curious. Have you ever thought about investing money for stock in du-fast Staples? Obviously you do not use tack strip. You mighti also want to load on blades because you are cutting against staples. Thanks for the upload. Have one more comment on previous video pertaining to stairs. Will provide in this comment list Hopefully the younger generation might learn something from your upload. God knows they need it Old school like me appreciates you sharing knowledge with the younger generation FYI. An old school with new tricks

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Thanks

[@kennethrenock6588]

How do we know it's an inch and a half to inch and a quarter angle pie cut I don't understand how you come up with that measurement

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Usually that’s the math with spiral staircases / you will have to experiment with a piece of pad or a protractor to get the angle

[@michaellowman2415]

Is that around staples that you are using

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

??

[@josegovea1178]

So, on each of the curved steps, you were cutting the bottom off at an angle of about 1 1/2?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Jose Govea 1 1/2 seems to do the trick depending on the amount of turn, some are less, some are more 👍👍👍

[@josegovea1178]

@@KeithShannonDirectCarpet I did some curved steps today. And your technique helped me out alot. Thanks for sharing! ✌

[@OAB688]

Is there any reason why you start from the bottom of the staircase?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Thats just the way I do!

[@OAB688]

@@KeithShannonDirectCarpet So the bottom or the top doesn’t matter. Correct?

[@ElizabethE1267]

How do you charge for labor only for a curved staircase?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Depends on the scope of work and the going rate in your city

[@ElizabethE1267]

@@KeithShannonDirectCarpet That's what I'm trying to gage....it's all over the place. What do you charge for similar work?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

Between 2200$ 2500$ we include a in person consultation at our showroom then we show up on site and custom template the staircase / then cut and bind at our shop / then on to the installation

[@saulp24]

Did you follow the patted match?

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

i do when its possible!

[@bestfloors5084]

Why dont you run the under lay over nose because the carpet will wear on the noises coz there protection

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

nb flooring flooring there have been cases where the pad pushes the carpet out to far and 1/you can se the pad! And 2/ when the pad where’s it can be a weak spot and a trip factor! But I do agree about the wear and tear 👍

[@bestfloors5084]

@@KeithShannonDirectCarpet ok thanks for your reply I will try ur way next time thanks

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

nb flooring flooring let me know how you make out😄👍

[@clawpuss2]

I am not a pro, but I saw a video today from a DIY guy who is renovating a Victorian house in London, and he said you should not whack stairs too hard, when laying carpet as you can damage the stair joints and this could cause creaking stairs.

[@KeithShannonDirectCarpet]

clawpuss2 it can crack the stair joints

[@OAB688]

Hello What is the vidéo that you are talking about please?

[@jacobbuckley8232]

Man that poor trigger lol