Silent Hill 2 Remake PC | Patch 1.04 Analysis | Frame Generation, A New Setting, Stuttering Test...

[@jell_ree]

For those who still cant enable frame gen option after following steps provided in the video @2:30 , try using other .dll files. For me, winhttp.dll and version.dll doesnt work for my RTX 3060. I finally can toggle frame gen ON with dbghelp.dll.

[@muzzle_4717]

none of it is working for me, I've rtx 3060

[@jell_ree]

@@muzzle_4717 Have you enabled Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling in Windows Graphics Settings? and if you have DlssTweaks in the game folder try deleting that files too.

[@papercoolcat]

@@jell_ree enabling hardware accelerated GPU worked for me with my 3080 ti

[@kayeplaguedoc9054]

That version crashes. The ASI one *won't* crash, but it doesn't enable DLSS frame gen. Everything I've tried doesn't work, I look at the people using it on the same graphics card as me with jealousy. Same with Nukem's Mod. Just don't do it even when I follow instructions to the letter. Works for every other game.

[@kayeplaguedoc9054]

Actually I guess it finally worked but I had to uninstall the game and delete every config file then reinstall it

[@slipnotololo4586]

unreal Enginbe 5 - greatest stuttering simulator

[@cemsengul16]

Yeah devs need to ditch this engine until it's ready.

[@excite6501]

UE5 suffers from same problems CryEngine had. It was ahead of its time. Crytek tho, the GPU Performance gonna improve much faster but the didnt. U5 maybe gonna suffer from the same problem but even harder. Why? Well we hit now 3nm silicon chips and we hitting the physicly possibility soon. If we wont gain much more raw performance out of GPUs, well then UE5 has a problem and all the gamer that gonna play UE5 titles. The major Problem is that u rely on atleast 80Fps to use FrameGen good. U can double the FPS up to 120FPS = (80 FPS - 20FPS overhead FG) * 2. But what happens to all the ppl that cannot afford a 1k GPU to reach this 80 FPS? Btw: OFC its poor implementation of game devs as well. They pick everything possible and throw it on the screen and wondering why even a 4090 cannot handle it at 4k 60+ FPS.

[@ProjectMore69]

On yalls toasters maybe... not a single hitch or stutter on my rig maxed 4k settings.

[@slipnotololo4586]

@@ProjectMore69 everything is possible if you are a liar

[@cemsengul16]

@@ProjectMore69 14900k and 4090 is no toaster. I got the Silent Hill 2 essential ini file for maximum graphics and that heavily reduced the stutter for me though.

[@DeathJam89]

06:10 THANK YOU Giving up performance/ stability for visual fidelity is a stupid and anti-consumer decision. Your ultimate goal as a game designer is immersion and stuttering is the arch enemy of this. But who cares if you're an investor that simply cares about profits and the gameplay trailer footage looks oh so juicy.

[@afos88]

Id rather have worse or less realistic graphics in games than having to deal with stutters and other issues that Unreal Engine(s) have

[@constantinesoldatos]

I couldn't possibly agree more, take a look at PS5 and Demon Souls Remake when it first released nearly 5 years ago, it looks better than the majority of games released today on PC but manages to retain high performance. It's runs ridiculously smooth and looks incredible. ''Next gen'' games on the other hand look blurry and are unstable af a lot of the time on PS5. I'm using PS5 as a base example since it's much weaker than a mid range PC in order to show how bad things are and how much better they could have been Demon Souls Remake being a perfect example of high graphical fidelity in performance mode. I'll bet you anything that no one would complain if games looked and ran as well as Demon Souls at release in performance mode in both PC and Consoles before enabling RT etc.

[@KratosisGod]

The closer to launch you buy a game nowadays the worse the experience is nowadays what a nice way to reward early adopters.

[@raul1642]

@@afos88 and long loading time like gta v before patch, rather than stutter

[@deddrz2549]

I mean that has to do with disk speed and new nvme drives, nothing to do with new graphics engines

[@seafafrage6934]

bro you are literally THE KING of benchmarks, keep doing what you doing bro 👍👍👍

[@SFO195]

Try the "SH2 Essentials" mod for this game. Its a life saver for performance.

[@adriabd]

Your videos are amazing, they should hire you as a tester. Thanks.

[@battlespartn311]

I can already see these same issues popping up on MGS Delta.

[@beyondearth6418]

What a freaking nightmare man ... lauching games in such a state should be draconianly outlawed.

[@AnjektusStudio]

Well! The game is ok compared to cuberpunk. The stuttering are not so bad that you can't play.

[@AchillesFeel]

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[@AnjektusStudio]

@@AchillesFeel Well! I have watched over 20 let's play where they have not made any comment about the stuttering. So you can have a great experience even of their is some stuttering. But if it is a problem for you, well then just don't play the game.

[@Einuhreins]

FSR 3 Framegen is bugged un NVIDIA Cards. It works well on my RX 7000 gpu. I still use TSR Normal, its less shimmery than fsr and xess. I also think TSR + AFMF2 is better than fsr3.1 framegen if you get around 60-70 fps as baseline for framegen.

[@judubbing9615]

Considering the patch mentionned that stutters are fixed only in the forest area, we can hope they deliver some other patches that will do the same to the city. But again, it's a shame that games are sold this unfinished technically

[@TheNoodledChicken]

I always wait for your optimization reviews before even buying anything, thank you for this! xD

[@Hoytehablode]

Hi Benchmarking, as far as I understand the problem with Frame Generation DLSS3 specifically is not that is bad implemented here. As far as I know, is because your GPU is maxed out. For example if you are getting 100FPS with no Frame Generation and 100% GPU Utilization, when you activate Frame Generation this has a computational cost, it means your frames will actually go lower, like 80FPS but then using frame Generation they go to 160fps, giving the impression of just 60% better performance, but internally is actually rendering 80fps. If the game instead was CPU limited and you GPU was only using 80% of its capacity and giving you 60FPS then it has headroom to apply Frame Generation without losing performance and that is when it goes from 60 to 120 fps. At least that is what my testing and understanding of the tech has worked out.

[@AbrahamZX1]

This is the correct answer

[@Jakiyyyyy]

Ye, it were meant to be used when you are CPU bounded. When you have no GPU headrooms, expect no gains or even lower performance when FG is enabled because it's definitely not free performance.

[@PedroNWO]

your comment has developed into an insteresting conversation here. I'm a fairly new pc gamer...I have a 4090 and 7800x3d. I read that I should lower FPS to 60 and change windows settings to 60hz to get a good performance (but I'm in a part of the second part of the game when I'm at a rainy night and performance is BRUTAL...around 45-48fps), I was also getting worried because my GPU was getting very hot (it still does now with my changed settings though). I was watching the video and I don't understand what "CPU bound" and "GPU bound" mean, I would be very thankful if you can explain this. Should I go back to 120hz unlimited fps now? Should I enable frame generation? thanks a lot again.

[@Hoytehablode]

@@PedroNWO I would go back to 120hz and activate frame generation, however it seems FSR frame generation is not good in this game. Gpu Bound means that the reason is not having better performance in any given situation is because the GPU is the limiting factor. Cpu bound is when is the CPU causing the issue.

[@shayanali8771]

He is vram limited.

[@edwardoliveira1748]

This channel is soooooo friggin useful!

[@tomthomas3499]

So basically, nowadays game devs not only relying on upscaling as crutch, they also rely on modders to properly implement FSR3.1, that's just sad...

[@AbrahamZX1]

FSR is garbage anyway.

[@HairlessMonkeyKing]

It is all falls mostly on Unreal engine 5 is a broken mess any game thag runs on it will have optimization issue

[@cadendewet9935]

Yes and that’s not a bad thing it’s a optimal tactic not saying this game is well optimised but there is nothing wrong with upscaling if games already use optimal strategies and the game is still demanding upscaling is another good method.

[@GMOTP5738]

​@@cadendewet9935not really its just lazy

[@cadendewet9935]

@@GMOTP5738 interesting take it really depends what they’ve done before resorting to upscaling but it’s obvious why not all people are game developers

[@titos21100]

2060 RTX with a ryzen 7 5800X here. HZB is indeed improving my frames by 5-6.

[@shobitts1127]

Sadly for most people it's still a performance mess, im using an RX 6600 XT and it doesnt matter what graphical setting i usee the game dips to 12fps no matter what upscaler i use, resolution or graphics settings, its just a mess for a really good game, gotta stick with the PS5 till its fixed

[@morganyu592]

Hi bro, my solution, im using this Mod Ultra Plus and fixes the Sammilucias in Nexus mods, is very, very useful, and Dlss Enabler with Optisclaler 0.6 is more stable than 0.7, this game getting better fps but the transversal stuttering still in the game, is a temporal and easy solution. My Build is core i5 10400 and RX 6600.

[@castlemein5765]

Awesome, just in time. I always watch your vids for when it comes to custom settings, and every time, they give me the best fps while maintaining great visual fidelity.

[@jimjamsam3482]

i dont have any money but you are the only channel i would ever join membership

[@swith98]

your channel is the best. keep it up 💪🏻

[@afos88]

Thank you for the video, was waiting for it since the patch came out. Always best analysis.

[@gamez12100]

Hey - excellent work as always sir! Thorough and well produced content, nice with some minor stuttering fixes and the DLSS dll being updated. :) On another note - I'd love to see a revisit of Dragon's Dogma 2! The game has made some CPU related improvements and should be worth another look. It is still not good but in a far better shape than at launch.

[@jandressss]

we have the same gpu/cpu combo! i just got these a couple months ago and have been loving it.

[@KeyboardSavant]

UE has been a nightmare for nearly a decade. And more developers continue to license this engine based on "how good the games can look," with their game's performance taking a backseat. Truly unfortunate.

[@stangamer1151]

UE is not actually the problem. There are games based on UE, that run very smooth - Days Gone, Hi-Fi Rush, Lies of P, Gears 4 and 5, for example. It all comes to game devs. Some of them just use custom options/settings, while they are creating their games and thus their games work like a charm.

[@kingofdivinerealm]

RE 4, 7, 8 was good

[@gonzalocabrera9211]

​@@kingofdivinerealmall the games you mentioned use the re engine created by capcom xd

[@kingofdivinerealm]

@@gonzalocabrera9211 it's like UE so I thought it was the same. Black myth, stellar blade, final fantasy 7 rebirth was good though.

[@TurbaGames]

We are here just to learn english. Simply the best.

[@withinuk]

Hey man, from my testing last week I was able to fix the crashing with FSR on an Nvidia GPU by updating my drivers to the latest versions. It will still occasionally stutter and hitch however it hasn't crashed in my experience.

[@DeathWarrant45]

The mod Silent Optimizer by FrancisLouis greatly reduced my transversal stuttering before the patch. Do you think it would be worth while to benchmark the benefits of that mod? I haven't been able to test out the effects of the mod post patch however. The mod has different versions players can try to there's little something for everyone. The GPU ver 3 of the mod worked best for me on a 5950x and 3080ti.

[@Navin4061]

1:18 - That's the first thing I do with any new game that supports DLSS. I use DLSS swapper to switch it to the latest DLSS version and also use the DLSS tweaks to set the desired DLSS preset. But I'm glad they've updated it themselves with this patch. 2:25 - Also, glad you mentioned Nukem's FSR3/DLSS mod. Frankly it's better than a lot of FSR 3/3.1 FG implementation by the devs and you can use it with both DLSS & XeSS upscalers which are leagues better than FSR. 3:40 - Yeah, unfortunately the traversal and shader compilation stutters have been kryptonite for all UE5 game. It's been the same since UE4, so I'm not surprised that it's still the same. And as always great work! You're always the first one I go benchmarks & optimized settings for any new game.

[@StefanoTavares234]

The king has spoken!

[@hassainemoussa1186]

You the best number one 🔥🔥🔥

[@N0P3Sugar]

If only my toaster PC could play this i wouldn’t complain on these first world problems like lack of framerate.

[@--AISAKA]

I5 8400K + ASUS TUF RX 6700 XT + 32GB RAM with fsr 3.1 quality + FG i get around 70fps at Lybrith (msi after burner ) 120fps (adrenaline) disable occulsion give me 10 more fps

[@Igloomemes]

Thank you for your keeping us updated 🙏

[@imfrizzy2442]

i got an rx7600 and i was always getting stutters prior to this patch but now it runs perfectly and fsr works incredibly well for me

[@Forioous]

Thanks for comparison and good you've a RTX 4070 Super for better presentation! Now you can check FPS with Frame Generator :)

[@cortapeloyfileton5702]

Thanks a Lot for your work.

[@bignife1233]

I use 2060 and turn off RT modded FG option, and I can get over 65 fps in the game. Satisfied to me.

[@kingfrozen4257]

Love the videos, my go to unbiased channel

[@madmaster3d]

just put ur shader on meidum & shadow on low & limit ur frame to 60 & under it set to 60 too & not need use any FSR or... u will get 60 fps other settings on high np ofc sometimes fps drop

[@Higgs8D]

Great video like always، thank you❤

[@yusufozarslan1796]

bro when stalker 2 comes?I can't play the game without you :)

[@Darth_GreyWolf]

I have enable Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling in Windows Graphics Settings and version.dll. Frame Generation works great for me. RTX 3060 Laptop, ray tracing off, DLSS-quality, quality epic, 70 FPS in forest at the start the game.

[@Jp77759]

TKS for the tutorial now i can play SH2 more stable FPS with a RTX 2060 6gb

[@goofball1_134]

i keep saying now I'd rather play a game with 20-30% worse graphics that doesn't stutter than a game with insane mode graphics with traversal stutter. It's so distracting an immersion breaking and it is impacting my purchasing decisions of otherwise good and even great games.

[@exotictoxics]

YES I was thinking of asking you for this on your previous video thank you🙏

[@GabrielHenrique-tm8do]

Does anyone see a flickering black artifact on certain surfaces when using DLSS? For example, near the bathroom door in the first location, just after taking control of James, and on the prison walls.

[@bladerunnerw]

THANK YOU FOR VID!

[@BlackAera]

There is still ghosting visible at 1:26 Look at the leaves at the end of the road, right under where the fence begins

[@Alezao.Ferreira]

Are you going to make a video optimizing Dragon Age Veilguard?

[@Furzide]

The dlss issue was solved by the new preset "E" which is present in 3.7. preset e combines the temporal stability of D and the anti ghosting of C.

[@pasullica]

Any mention about game breaking bug at the Labyrinth the new 1.04 patch introduced ? Is it happening on every PC ?

[@viktoremil5428]

Guys, what channels can you recommend with the same detailed and quality approach of technical game breakdowns with optimized settings as our king?

[@asdtyuv]

can we grab a cod bo6 video on release?

[@benchmarking4386]

@@asdtyuv Unfortunately, I haven't received a preview copy, so hopefully in 2 to 4 days, if everything goes smoothly.

[@xKarmaTTV]

Yes, the stuttering makes the game unplayable in my opinion. I prefer games with worse graphics but 100% smooth, rather than nice graphics and the game stuttering... you're awesome anyway, big hug brother! 💪🏻🐺❤

[@ProjectMore69]

Game is butter smooth maxed 4k on my rig, you nitwits with stuttering issues need to realize there are other graphics settings besides full ultra and most of you are exceeding your gpus vram which will cause stutter.

[@xKarmaTTV]

First, make sure not to insult, as no one here has offended anyone. Second, it’s not my fault if the game is poorly optimized. Third, the recommended system requirements state something entirely different; there shouldn’t be issues like this, yet even with all settings at minimum, the stuttering still occurs. Fourth, have a nice day.

[@ProjectMore69]

@@xKarmaTTV there were no insults given so if you feel that way it’s because you know I’m right and what I stated applies to you. Lastly the game is optimized just fine upgrade your toaster or find a new hobby..

[@xKarmaTTV]

Said the one whose hobby is spamming comments everywhere 💀😂 'Nitwits' is an insult anyway, but for you, it’s probably normal. Have fun dude, bye ✌

[@ProjectMore69]

@@xKarmaTTV No its just telling the truth (nitwit) cry some more 😭😂

[@huracan0073]

I use AMFM 2 instead of frame gen and works beautifully.

[@XMG3]

Hello my King, red dead 1 for PC is out, looking forward to your optimization guide

[@RUS-wg6wt]

Thanks man! everything worked on RTX 3060, but I had to reinstall the game I have a pirated version🏴‍☠, because the game can't be bought here due to sanctions If you can't get the generation, try deleting old saves or reinstalling the game entirely

[@jankindl915]

is it just me, or Frame generation is useless? Yes i have more frames on screen, but still feels laggy and weird. I do rather play without Frame Gen in games.

[@steviewonder0850]

It's only worth it if you're already getting 60+fps without it (ideally more)

[@xKamiiii]

same, i never use it. it's a gimmick tbh

[@lukman_427]

I used it in black myth wukong and felt smooth

[@Jakiyyyyy]

It only worth it if you are already getting 60+ fps real frames for high refresh rate experience and to eliminate some of the CPU bottleneck that the game had.

[@matom208]

In my personal experience it only feels right when using a controller. Idk why, but maybe it's because mouse and keyboard feel so much responsive to me that any small hit in input latency feels like a punch in the face.

[@sergiopais8788]

with bug that Breaking Labyrinth

[@shaberoshabero8178]

Awesome video! Thanks 😁

[@cemsengul16]

I am scared to patch because it heard it breaks the game at the Labyrinth section.

[@canalframerate]

Bravo! I completely agree about Epic and the fact that they only care about the visual aspects of the Unreal Engine. For me it also doesn't make any sense for a game to be photo realistic and stutter every 5 minutes... that's not realistic, in the real world there is no stuttering.

[@MoonOvIce]

It's amazing how Unreal Engine used to be THE amazing looking and buttery smooth, always 150% optimized engine, you wanted everything done with it! Then UE4 and 5 came and changed everything to become the exact opposite. It's now hated a lot of the time and with reason. Capcom I think superseded UE with their engines which are always optimized, look amazing and buttery smooth on almost anything, with almost or no stutter!

[@ryugan77]

Thanks for the video! Can you make one for Dead Rising Remaster please?

[@kenedwards3574]

RDR1 Optimization Guide, please.

[@Fertlou]

Please a video on how to configure A Quiet Place, the game is very poorly optimized :(

[@miodo5816]

Hey can you do video like this in Throne and Liberty ? MMO

[@Blitzz223]

Turning on Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling and restarting the pc works to turn on frame generation from my 3060 ti and it also remove the stutters in my game

[@tmp1k]

no noticeable improvements when running on my laptop. i manually updated that dlss dll before the path but apparently my pc is not qualified for dlss frame generation to be enabled on a 3070ti system.

[@UrQuietGamer]

Awesome video! So does this mean that Calisto Protocol still has traversal stutters? It was developed with UE4.

[@Mo-pt2ml]

I use LSFG for frame generation. Sad to see their FG implementation has stuttering issues.

[@lorenzoruggeri1783]

I’ve just updated the game to 1.05 version (I’m usint FitGirl Repack) but I’ve noticed some visual glitches in when I turn on Frame Generation, such as ghosting and other glitches, what could I do? I have a RTX 4060 Ti GPU

[@2runplayz]

Hey thanks for this video. Will u make a video for Black Ops 6 too?

[@benchmarking4386]

I'm working on it

[@2runplayz]

@@benchmarking4386 thank you so much

[@Luna-Fox]

So I installed the Nukem mod as instructed and SH2R just won't open anymore; I get the loading box, but the game will never open. (RTX 3060)

[@marcoaurelio6311]

is the red dead redemption analysis being worked on?

[@deddrz2549]

Idk if only blaming the engine is useful, yes UE5 has a bigger problem with it than before, but it isnt like pther games havent used it and promised to have good performance. Heck, even disabling nanite on some existing games games can show an improvement, which yes means that some of their tools that are supposed to be for optimization are broken, but also means that the people actually making the games can make good performant graphics by messing around nd not using the default UE5 render settings and methods

[@wasyaname]

Yoooo BO6 dropped we need ya!

[@benchmarking4386]

@@wasyaname Today 😉

[@isamikato2602]

After installing the dlss mod, the strong staters disappeared, but performance dropped by almost 50%. Am I the only one?

[@Pepelepiuxx]

the problem with the AMDs frame gen is only in nvidia, i tried in same PC with a 5700XT works perfectly, but with a 3060 there is a major stutter

[@khfreak5531]

I’m on PS5 and am waiting for the update that fixes the broken cube puzzle that was introduced by this update.

[@jefferycook3131]

Well after patch 1.05 i have a progress break bug that stopped me in the appartments 3rd floor crawl space cannot progress through the crawl space

[@familiar1ty]

Oh my god, thank you. Literally the best channel about graphic settings.

[@toddsmith1083]

Can't watch the video right now, but has stuttering improved?

[@madgearimpact8076]

I copied your guide for the frame generation with my 30 card and it’s still a locked option

[@mariarti4606]

4060 rtx r5 3600x 16 gb 3600 :)

[@oropher1234]

It is unclear why EPIC is not able or willing to solve the stutter issues. I have heard CDPR is working intimately with Epic to solve the issue for Witcher 4. The same source mentioned they were having a really hard time getting it done. So either something is wrong in the core of the engine. Or, the amount of data streaming is getting bigger than our actual bus speeds can handle.

[@TeenPerspektiva]

Because their engine is lazily made and broken to the core.

[@hollowinside1962]

can you do a tutorial on how to enable dlaa on this game? it s not working anymore after this patch

[@Ahmdx777]

Is anyone else having problem with the routing cube section ? Especially after solving the first puzzle ?

[@Sdfergz]

just updated the patch for my game and it still travearse studders, especially down the stairs in woodbrige apartments by the chute, otherwise love the game, radio silence trophy glitchy for me..Also the ps5 version doesnt have as many options as the PC..

[@NECO2926]

when i played launch version i enabled frame generation via engine.ini file it's like one line and it works great. mabye because i have radeon gpu idk

[@bignife1233]

Why your ram consumption is lower than me? My spec: 5600X 32G RAM RTX 4070 It uses over 27G RAM while playing silent hill2.

[@twitchplayskh2425]

epic can't fix the stuttering problem because it's not a simple engine fix so many different technologies working together contributing to the problem

[@casillas9227]

I don’ t find frame gen option after update is possible?

[@Navss47]

Im from brazil and i love your work it helps a lot, i was wonder where did you come from ? Because you have a diferent accent. just a curiosity

[@clouds5]

I would already be happy if the game wouldn't crash every 10min...

[@Bai3d-uf9cu]

1:29 song?

[@tosiin3930]

Can you do one for Rust?

[@bananarnold1831]

Are any of these on the PS5 version?

[@Dyl-ki7sm]

Is bo6 going up today still?

[@artorias550]

3:40 wtf is this stuttering while running on flat road!!! I must get such UI so I can complain about frame instability to my friends :D

[@RTX4060LEGENDS]

My first watching video on ur channel is RDR2 Optimize, best channel i ever see can u pliz upload a video on 'Until Dawn' and 'A Quite Place'