Silesian | Language Showcase

[@paulmatuschzyk9063]

Thanks for this Video 🇩🇪🇵🇱

[@darkodraco]

russia is better than germany 👎🏻

[@carlosaugustohenrique497]

Hey, greetings from Brazil! 🇧🇷 I would like to say that your video it happend to be extremely important to me and my family now. My great-grandfather Carlos (we don't know if this is his original name) was born in Silesia but when he was just a child due some family tragedy with some kind of war -my father says that he never knew exactly how to explain what happend because he had just few childhood memories in Silesia- he and his family immigrate to work in the coffe farms here in the Brazilian state of São Paulo. My father and his grandfather were very close to eachother and he tells me tha great-grandfather could speak some words in his native language and after his father and brother passed away he felt it a great desire to visit his homeland. Unfortunately he died before complete his dream, and my father never forget the promise he made it to accomplished Carlos's wish to visit Silesia and fulfill this lack of identity and bonds with our routes that exists in my family. I ended in your video because I have a linguistic hobby and what a great surprise! I had to translate to my dad since our native language is the brazilian portuguese, but even so he was moved, so THANK YOU for this amazing job ❤️❤️

[@Aronora]

What a great story! If you are interested in learning a bit of Silesian, you can look at my (work-in-progress) website sites.google.com/view/silesian

[@Aronora]

Also, similar Silesian names to Carlos would be Karl (more German-leaning) and Karol (frequent in Polish till this day), Silesian derivatives would be Kareł, Karlik, Karliczek, Lusik. Also "Karlus" (which probably comes from Karl) means "strong man" lol

[@helpingtutor8863]

Dobry Szczyn z Ślōnskŏ Gŏdka, Chociaż być trochu trudno wysłuchać czystŏ gŏdki bez mieszki Půlski, bo po druga Wŏjnje Światů wele gŏdki sie pomieszały.@@Aronora

[@silesia93]

Cooles Video! Bin auch aus Deutschland und meine Eltern aus Oberschlesien. Ich bin praktisch 3 sprachig aufgewachsen. Mit der Grammatik kenne ich mich gar nicht aus :D deshalb finde ich dein Video sehr interessant. Gibt nicht viele junge Leute vor allem in Deutschland, die den polnischen schlesischen Dialekt sprechen. Für mich klingt er immer sehr lustig und ich finde auch er braucht mehr Anerkennung. Wenn's eine Sprache wäre ist es meine Lieblingssprache :)

[@Aronora]

Danke! Ich bin praktisch auch dreisprachig aufgewachsen. Ich arbeite ab und zu an einer Seite über Schlesisch und die Grammatik: sites.google.com/view/silesian Das Projekt braucht aber echt lange, weil es nicht so viele Ressourcen gibt und auch sehr viel Uneinigkeit herrscht. Naja, vielleicht kriege ich das irgendwann hin. Habe auch nen Subreddit dafür gemacht. Schlesisch ist auch meine Lieblingssprache! Fajnych godów, fröhliche Feiertage!

[@maniac4131]

@@Aronora Wie heißt der Subreddit?

[@silesia93]

Danke! Sorry ich habe keine Benachrichtigung zu Deiner Antwort erhalten, deshalb lese ich es erst jetzt. Das finde ich echt super! Würde auch wissen wollen welcher subreddit es ist. r/Slask z.b.? Ich habe erst neulich einen Artikel auf wachtyrz.eu zur schlesischen Konjugation gefunden von Henryk Jaroszewicz

[@Aronora]

@@maniac4131 r/szulaslunkska Viele waren vergeben hehe

[@Aronora]

@@silesia93 r/szulaszlunksiego Langer Name, aber es war halt echt viel schon vergeben

[@helpingtutor8863]

For anyone that doesn't know, Silesia is actually around 1000 years older than Poland, And has been already written down many times on maps under it's name, over 700 years before any Slavs arrived to the area of Central/Eastern Europe.

[@Nakla]

Silesian comes from Old Polish

[@Nakla]

The original names of Silesian cities were all Slavic Only in the 30's did the German government decide to change the names

[@helpingtutor8863]

You're wrong, Proving you don't know your history, Silesia was first written down on maps in around 100 bc while the first Slavs came to existence around 600 AD (at least in central/eastern europe)@@Nakla

[@helpingtutor8863]

Silesian is a language that comes from Czech, German, Old Polish and many words that can't be found in any other language@@Nakla

[@eNeRgOo]

There's Czech Silesian as well! It's called "Śląski Cieszyński" ;)

[@Aronora]

Jeżech z Żorach, i dużo razy już byłech w Ostrawie. Fajnie tam! I jo rozumjem was. I am from Zory. I have been to Ostrava many times. It’s great there! And I understand you!

[@gegosek7886]

i am from cieszyn !!!!

[@MrKOLCOO]

Jekukandy ludzie my tu na czeskim ślónsku, czy jak nas niktórzy nazywajóm ,,Zaolziu,, mómy tela róznych poddialeków ślónskich, ze iba górol z Jabɫónkowa se niedomowi z dolaninym z Ostrawy XD

[@lmaocetung]

@@Aronora :)

[@michah3956]

@@selekcjoner9821 ze Żorōw.

[@khateatingcactus]

you know, in schools and in general public, speaking Silesian was very frowned upon and students were being punished for it, but one day (around 1990-2000s) they noticed its endangered status and they started to praise it and even put up signs on banks and shops as such that said "you can speak Silesian here" in both Polish and Silesian

[@saintbread5080]

Yeah its deemed as 'unprofessional' by people that repopulated Silesian and people were forced to speak Polish in public and Silesian in their homes

[@mrmoth26]

Silesian IS Polish

[@kij7412]

What is it in Silesian tho?

[@helpingtutor8863]

It's not 💀 If you speak actual Silesian, and not a mixture of both like people do nowadays, A pole can understand 10% at best 💀@@mrmoth26

[@helpingtutor8863]

Silesian: "Tukej możoń po ślōnsku godoć" Polish: "Tutaj można rozmawiać po śląsku"@@kij7412

[@tudyk21]

Thanks for the video. My family emigrated from Gliwice to Texas in the mid 1850s.

[@OjgynZeSlonska]

Do you know the Silesian language? Can you speak Silesian?

[@tudyk21]

@@OjgynZeSlonska , no. My dad could, but he didn't teach me and died when I was 7.

[@goju09alt9]

Thank you for this video as a native silesian speaker I wish more people know about it.

[@Aronora]

Niy znům dużo Ślůnskůw, bo niy miyszkam w Polsce, ale fajnie że jeszcze godosz po Ślůnsku

[@kuba.h5306]

@@Aronora je zech szczesliwy ze ktos godac po naszymu jeszcze potrofi, pozdrawiom ze fryncity!

[@blythetaylor4063]

I am half American and half German. I just learned that my Oma was from Silesia- she lost her home and was put on a death march after the Second World War, met her husband and had my Mom in Germany and then immigrated to the US. I had no idea that this was part of my family history and definitely want to learn a few words in Silesian (I only speak German and English). I really appreciate videos like this and that there are people willing to teach.

[@krzysztofszmatloch3517]

A lot of hard work has been put into this video. Respect!

[@Aronora]

Thank you! Dziękuje! Džynkuja!

[@krzysztofszmatloch3517]

@@Aronora Nae bother/No problem/Niy za ma co :)

[@grimm9027]

I'm a descendant of some of the upper silesian's that came to Texas in the 19th century and recently just been spurred for some reason into looking into it a lot since I think they'd be sad that we aren't really connected to that identity anymore, and I personally am upset that I'm not. I'll probably have to do a lot more digging if I wanna learn the language, though maybe I could find a way here instead of online given that there's a Texan dialect of it🤔

[@Aronora]

Wait you are part of the Texas Silesians? The one county in Texas with like 20-ish Silesians? I always wanted to analyze this dialect!

[@grimm9027]

@@Aronora Unfortunately not apart of that county, I don't know what happened but family kinda of moved off from the original town they settled in at some point(so thats where the disconnect from the identity came from), but I would like to meet some people who do speak it. I have heard that a couple words for things like peaches and rattlesnake are different though, also that dialect is probably endangered. I don't know if it'd help with analyzing the dialect but I could share some of the things I have found on silesian texans, there's an entire website dedicated to the original immigrants and decendants and it lists the towns and parishes that were mainly settled in.

[@Aronora]

@@grimm9027 TBH, I have no clue how to say Peach or Rattlesnake myself, but that's because we do not use such words. (Well Peach would be Fyrzich(a)). Could you link the Website?

[@piroskaracz3621]

Really interesting. I'm fascinated by the lesser known Slavic languages and try to get books on them. Have never seen anything on Silesian.... especially written in english

[@mrmoth26]

Silesian is a dialect of Polish

[@piroskaracz3621]

@@mrmoth26 would be interested in seeing textbooks for learning

[@ricer34567]

@@piroskaracz3621 you can look now for some, e.g. Hobbit in Silesian. We have also Silesian Dictionary and I think you can find them on Silesia Progress

[@piroskaracz3621]

@@ricer34567 thanku will check it out!

[@ukisa3rdworld586]

Silesia is a heavy accent I'm polish as a child I couldn't understand my uncle at all.

[@barbarasunday3514]

I'm American born my grandparents and father were expellees from Zlotoryja,I grew up hearing German Silesian at home, I communixated with my Opa in a mashup of Silesian German and English,When I took German class at school I had a lot of problems with my Austrian born teacher

[@beuthen8562]

Correction: German silesian is dead, its just Silesian since centuries, which is a mix of Czech and German with polish grammar

[@lyreczka]

Hi, I read through your comment on this video and find it weird that you don't have many Silesian people to talk to in Germany. I am Silesian and still living here, part of my family moved to Germany in the early 90s. It was quite a popular destination. They speak Silesian and aren't switching to regular Polish. Nowadays not that many young people speak to each other in Silesian as we grow up with Polish in school etc. and there's many migrants from other parts of Poland here. But you do hear the accent and Silesian speech too. I think that in Germany you would find Silesian-speaking people in Polish population of 50+ years. It's likely though that they might speak a bit differently than your parents cause there is a wide variety due to lack of systemic teaching. BTW in 4:14 - "Czy ty jesteś w domu?" does not sound natural. A Polish person would just ask "Jesteś w domu?". We don't use "czy" in informal speech that often. The sentence "Czy ty jesteś w domu?" looks perfectly natural though if said with kind of disdain, meaning "why are you at home, you are not supposed to be at home". As for the Silesian, I would not ask "Jeżeś ty w domu?" but "Jeżeś ty doma?".

[@Aronora]

No wiym. Ale kaj mōm znaleść ślōnzoki w mojim wieku? Jo niy chca śe kumplować starzikami

[@YuriChan-428]

Greetings from Karviná (Karwina), I wish I knew how to speak Silesian, it seems like a fun dialect. Especially since I was born here. Incredible video, enjoyed it a lot!

[@Batiti28]

There's three versions of Silesian Polish, German and Czech

[@thetitan0095]

Hey. Thank you for your awesome Videos. May you do a video for the Kommunikationsmodell von Schulz von Thun? I am very interested in this topic and this my help me in my German class

[@Aronora]

Sprich Deutsch du, ...Titan

[@thetitan0095]

@@Aronora Why are you so mean? I just wrote a comment... What about the video?

[@vladanlausevic1733]

Very interesting video about the Silesian language. Thanks. I think it should be recognised as a minority language in Poland.

[@thomasratka]

Toc. Mosz recht.

[@christophermaddish5540]

Well spoken, educational and fresh honesty

[@kevinstimelsky673]

Great video! My family immigrated to Texas from Saxony (I believe gorlitz or around there) settled the small farming communities around San Antonio which are still there today. The still speak Silesian language today and is being taught in schools as an elective. Only in Texas we call Texas Silesian!

[@Aronora]

Mate there aren't many of you left! Impressive! I'd be more than interested in doing an interview with you!

[@howarde9482]

Idk if you will see this, but Śląski has been recognized by the Sejm as a regional language, and will be taught in schools now! Even though I also believe it to be more of a dialect, it’s great that it’s getting more recognition and appreciation recently!

[@Aronora]

Jo tyż czytam co pisajōm w cajtungach, ale Duda jeszcze nic niy popisoł

[@ModyPISowiec]

What Mr president thinks about it?

[@GonkJohan]

Duda vetoed it

[@Aronora]

@@GonkJohan I know 😪

[@howarde9482]

@@AronoraAle, chyba, w 2025 będzie nowy prezydent

[@weziak]

I was wondering why are you speaking so slowly. Then I remembered that I have my speed set to 0.75 lol

[@robwegner]

Good job!

[@michakoodziej5741]

Sehr schön ! Bardzo fajny filmik !

[@lmaocetung]

1:17 from the Czechs. Silesia was part of Czech lands in that time, not part of Austrian empire

[@misiax9552]

XD na początku myślałem że jesteś Niemcem gadającym po angielsku

[@Aronora]

No, jo jestem

[@rafiki1917]

Silesian has been officialy recognized as a language by the Polish parlament in recent weeks.

[@Aronora]

Recent news say that Duda is not going to sign the law which he legally can. Very sad.

[@theghostkillz8921]

Can Poland start using Silesian? It's a lot easier to understand this kind of Polish for us central slavs xD

[@kij7412]

Central Slavs?

[@theghostkillz8921]

@@kij7412 Yas, from the context I 100% mean Mongolians. Learn to read bro xD

[@kij7412]

@@theghostkillz8921 Mongolians are not slavic but okay b r o xD

[@Southwark-Wexham]

"Today Imma show you the silesian language." *STARTS SPEAKING PERFECT HIGH-GERMAN.*

[@piroskaracz3621]

Do you have an actual PDF to download? I was on Reddit and nothing seems to come up when I press any of the categories grammar etc. I've NEVER seen anything to learn Silesian. Hope to hear from you

[@Aronora]

There aren’t a lot of resources, but if you really are interested, look into silling.org

[@KingJupiter]

I dont know how ,but I always stumble on your channel, a surprise but a welcome one

[@OjgynZeSlonska]

Silesian is language. My mother tongue.

[@kromek_jga]

I am convinced that if Silesia had not been taken over by Prussia and in 18'th century stayed with the Habsburgs, in 1918 it was possible that it would become an independent country! Why? Until 1742 was an ordinary, natural development of German culture due to the influx of people from Germany (and also from the Netherlands). It was happening peacefully and natural. But it was not deliberate Germanization and it proceeded relatively slowly. Too slow for it to make one language completely dominant over the other. The inhabitants did not consider themselves Germans, Poles or Austrians, but Silesians. If not for a certain event in history, today Silesia would be a bilingual region, or even a language linking German and Polish (similar to the present "ślonska godka") But when Silesia was occupied by Prussia (1742), King Frederick the Great forbade the use of languages ​​other than German in official life. Teaching and sermons in Polish were forbidden. Priests and pastors, teachers and officials had to speak only German. Until the 19th century, many people in Silesia still used the Polish language (It was a Silesian dialect of the Polish language). There was an entire Polish districts in Wrocław (Breslau). In 18th century it was a bilingual city. Around the Wrocław, every village spoke only Polish. Even in the 19th century, the Prussian administration was dissatisfied, because Polish was still used in Lower Silesia. Many Poles lived in the towns north of Opole (Oppeln), it can be seen in cemeteries, where half of the old (pre-war) graves have Polish surnames. For example look at this: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Zakaz_kollektowania.jpg It is a Prussian document in Polish (!) for the residents of Wrocław and rest of Silesia from...1743 forbidding gathering.. This is just one small example. From 1742 the activity of the Prussian and then German authorities was precisely targeted Germanization. Strong in the 19th and especially in the 1930's in 20th centuries, when the Polish-sounding names of the place were changed to German-sounding. That is why in Lower Silesia, before the Second World War, all of them considered themselves Germans, not Silesians or Poles or Czechs. An interesting fact is that in 1918 the Allies considered the possibility of establishing an independent Silesia, independent of Germany, Poland and Czechia. Unfortunately, too many people considered themselves Germans and not Silesians, and the idea fell very quickly.

[@CementaryCake]

The idea fell down quickly because polish militia murdered the guy who was pushing for 'third option' most

[@brandonmlostek4466]

Greetings from The US.

[@dantedante839]

Most Germans had a regional identity back then and that included Silesian. One of the many reasons why Germans remained silent about it was because they didn't have such strong feelings for other regions. Most people also spoke dialects. The German language became a common thing among all Germans only from the 50th on. Silesians back then spoke Germanic Silesian only.

[@hihellopriviethola]

fun fact: in poland in the silesian region, they are introducing a new lesson: silesian!

[@kathrinkaefer]

My ancestors were Polish Upper Silesians who decided to become German. I'm very curious about this region and why they decided to do that

[@BacaZaklinaczOwiec]

They were perhaps forcefully germanised

[@barbarabinias9836]

Sehr schön erklärt. Ich spreche auch po śląsku. Po śląsku habe ich bis zum 13 Lebensjahr gesprochen.

[@BlankSlate-17]

I wish I can learn policy lesion but I can't find any websites or anywhere to learn it

[@EnglishOrthodox]

0:13 is official now 🎉

[@okon7464]

??

[@HibikiKano]

Honestly the Lords Prayer in Silesian sounds very similar to Slovene. Were it not for 2 words I'd say you were part of the Kärtner slovene Minority in Austria. And I can't understand Polish one bit.

[@andrzejdobrowolski9523]

The Lords Prayer in Polish is also very similar to Silesian. Slovene is hard for me to understand as a Pole, but many basic words are similar especially the numbers from 1 to 10.

[@HibikiKano]

@@andrzejdobrowolski9523 Yes, but at numbers 20+ we get a problem 😅 Slovene reads numbers the german way "one and twenty"

[@andrzejdobrowolski9523]

@@HibikiKano Interesting. I've heard Your culture also has alot of Austrian influences.

[@HibikiKano]

@@andrzejdobrowolski9523 Hard to say who influenced who in certain aspects. Slovenes were part of the HRE since Charlemagne. Always were western catholic church and wrote in latin with the earliest latin slovene scripts from the 9th century. Slovenes and Austrians shared the seme space till Napoleon gave Slovene speakers a seperate national identity that German speakers tried to surpress in a nnproductive manner, whoch just got worse till thevspring of nations of 1848 and ultimately a seperation of many of the Slovene speaking lands after ww1, and a short war with Austria. What we have now is an Austria with only a fraction of slovene speakers and an Slovenia with a tiny fraction of german speakers left. Culturally very similar. In the middle ages it more or less looked the same.

[@Oldmotorsfan]

Silisian is a core of old polish language used by an Kochanowski and rej.

[@heyhallohoi498]

How would I say: ‘pray for me’ in Silesian?

[@Aronora]

rzykaj dla mie. Or spelled differently řykaj dla mie

[@heyhallohoi498]

@@Aronora Thank you! :) and how would you say merry Christmas and a happy new year? Sorry for asking aaah, I'm trying to learn the dialect

[@michah3956]

rzykej za mje.

[@nuuskamuikkunen407]

It's not mixed it's essentially old Polish.

[@biocyberfox8855]

Silesian is neither a dialect nor language. It's an Ethnolect - something in between

[@siberiancovers8966]

Greetings. I disagree with calling Silesian a Polish dialect. Silesian is a literary language: there's a lot of written Silesian content, be it websites, books, songs, movie subtitles, game localisations, etc. It's not a colloquial version of Polish. Silesian also falls into the Slavic microlanguages, or minority Slavic languages. I also speak a minority Slavic language, Siberian (сибирской говор, sibirskoj govor). Even though the Muscovites have been destroying regional dialects and impose everyone Moscow Russian ever since the Soviet era, some dialects survived to this day and three minority Slavic languages, which are the result of certain dialects' codification, appeared (Siberian, Pomor, and Don/Cossack). I'd say the minority Slavic languages of Poland (Kashubian, Silesian, Masurian) are way more successful compared to the minority Slavic languages of Russia. At least the Poles don't try to call e.g. Silesian a «conlang» like the Russian imperialists do against Siberian. Keep in mind they used to call Ukrainian and Belarusian the same way a century ago. Anyway, would you be willing to collaborate? I'm looking for speakers of other minority Slavic languages. Our minority languages are overlooked way more often compared to e.g. Turkic and Finno-Ugric ones, and we should work together. I already got in touch with some speakers of Pomor, Don, Silesian, Kashubian, Masurian, Moravian, Polesian, Kajkavian, so it'd be great if we got in touch via Discord for example. Za waszã i naszã folgã! / Za vašensku da našensku voljgotu! / За вашенску да нашенску вольготу!

[@Aronora]

Sure! I would love to come together! CENSORED My opinions on what is a language and what a dialect have changed a bit, I know see (for a few months) that it really should be called a language!

[@siberiancovers8966]

@@Aronora Great! I've sent a friend request.

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

@@siberiancovers8966 Don't forget Rusyn.

[@nitrianskehosamospravnehok4397]

Silesian is a Lechitic language. Search for the etymology for “Lechitic” or Lechia. It’s a Old Polish language.

[@mrmoth26]

Wrong, Silesian is a dialect of Polish, it is not a seperate language.

[@ToniTortelini]

Super video!

[@lmaocetung]

0:49 Silesia was never part of Bohemia. Silesia was part of Czech lands, not the kingdom of Bohemia

[@thomasratka]

Mickiewicz byl Slonzakiem. "Tak nas powrocisz cudem na Ojczyzna kono, tymczasem przenos moja dusze uteskniona do TYCH!

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

Even if Silesian isn't a language, how about Kashubian?

[@misiek_xp4886]

It is. Officially.

[@michah3956]

Silesians have not tanks and an army therefore others say: dialect.

[@MatthewMcVeagh]

@@michah3956 Others may say dialect but what does that have to do with the truth? It doesn't matter what others say, it matters how it is.

[@nilurii4152]

every pole understand silessian dialect but kashubian has more diffrencess

[@marco8861]

sloski godka!

[@skinekkaszebe]

do video about kashubian and one tip gdansk is not kuchubian capital city its, koscierzna and kartuzy. Sina e video kashubian

[@Kapix320]

Jo żech Polok i jo ucza sie Ślůnskigo na tzw. własną rękę i uważam że Ślůnskigo powinno sie uczyć w szkołach na Ślůnsku.

[@stefanrowecki8754]

Mosz recht, chopie!

[@czatelczan]

Silesians are not poles, silesians are silesians, silesian language is language not lect imo

[@Aronora]

Ja, Prawda

[@nilurii4152]

@@Aronora ślązacy to po prostu polacy mieszkający poza królestwem polski w czechach potem austrii i prusach

[@danielkamilfudaa7562]

No, Silesians are Poles and Silesian is a dialect of Polish

[@marco8861]

I'm sorry, I can't fulfill that request.

[@Aronora]

What request?

[@marco8861]

@@Aronora south sudan civil war

[@Aronora]

@@marco8861 what?

[@marco8861]

@@Aronoraspongebob

[@Kocham_Kraków_2137]

​@@marco8861Cyrkuśne ❤

[@Rolka207]

Upper Silesian-traditions, cooking, history, culture, landscape, territories, minerals, LANGUAGE.

[@danielkamilfudaa7562]

Dialect*

[@plk173]

Thank you so much, id argue Silesian is close to original polish, before it developed into modern, Silesian has unending influences, mainly german, but I traced Arabic and other strange influences, that make no sense, that any linguist that gives a shit about languages would lose its shit

[@Aronora]

Hey, maybe this video would interest you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppbGg5WQqsx6pdksi=7spmBA-VnQE7Jvjk

[@nygaman]

Każdy śląski w zależności od regionu się różni. Na śląski cieszynskim godajom inaczyj niż na opolskim, czy górnym Śląsku.

[@ToniTortelini]

Ja, ale gadołcie ❤

[@ToniTortelini]

Jo powiał "gadoł" a wy "godoł" a my wszyscy sie dogodōmy.

[@OjgynZeSlonska]

Opole to stolicja Górnego Ślonska.

[@qmance8062]

Im so confused, where are you from? You sound german, youre definitely not a native polish speaker, you say that Silesia is your “województwo” and yet your Silesian sounds odd as well, not to mention that it makes no sense for you not to speak polish considering that everyone that lives in Silesia speaks polish- so what are you?

[@Aronora]

My parents are Silesian, they moved to Germany. They pretty much only spoke Silesian to me and no proper Polish. Thus, I can speak Silesian better than Polish but not perfectly because I am not used to talking Silesian 24/7. jo chcem chętnie wiencej godać po Ślónsku, ale nie znom dużo Ślonsoków. Ha, ja napisałem „ale”, ale ale, to sóm długie ryby. So yeah, I consider myself Silesian because of my heritage but am a German citizen (and speak it). I try to keep the Silesian heritage because I like the culture. I really want to go to Poland again, has been a while since Corona. Powodzenia!

[@mskiptr]

@@Aronora What do you mean by "długie ryby"? Does it have some special meaning in Silesian or what? _I've never heard anything like that (at least not in Polish)_

[@Aronora]

@@mskiptr An "al" (plural "ale") is a węgorz, a long fish

[@dorcaswalker1867]

No such thing as polish Silesian nor German Silesia- Silesian is an independent language with nothing in common with polish , sure there is Czech and German vocabulary in Silesian but that’s all

[@Aronora]

There is German Silesian. A German dialect called "Silesian". There is Polish or Slavic or whatever other Silesian, the language spoken in Upper Silesia. Yes, it isn't really "polish Silesian", but I had to differentiate both languages somehow. One is a German dialect, one is a slavic language/dialect/ethnolect/whocares.

[@marco8861]

dchöamen

[@ModyPISowiec]

"Language"

[@anoob1271]

I have quite a few Polish friends and they all make fun of Silesian and say it is the most hated "accent"/dialect in poland.

[@michah3956]

Yes. Polish people hates Silesians. But Poles loves silesian coal and industry.

[@kathrinkaefer]

Why?

[@filipkopec525]

4:14 what is wrong with that polish. Are you really a native?

[@Aronora]

I speak Silesian and not Polish, I never learnt proper Polish because I live in Germany

[@filipkopec525]

@@Aronora oh that is the case. I live in Silesia but I am a pole. You do sound Silesian when you speak Silesian, but Polish is not spoken the same way.

[@Aronora]

Tylko znam polski z telewizji. Mój Opa zagląda na to często.

[@filipkopec525]

@@Aronora Zrozumiałem. Jeden błąd popełniłeś. "Znam polski" nie "znam polskiego" mamy 7 przypadków. Akkusativ: Kogo? co? Wem? Was? "Polski" Dativ: kogo? czego? Wer? Was? "Polskiego"

[@filipkopec525]

@@Aronora i jeszcze "z telewizji" a nie "od telewizji"

[@vitroznovsky9482]

Bohemia is only Bohemia,not all Czechia

[@Aronora]

This was probably referring to the kingdom of Bohemia which consisted of all of Czechia and Silesia at one point in time, my mistake

[@piotrmichaowski3549]

Silesians are Polish tribe not Czehs not German

[@vitroznovsky9482]

@@piotrmichaowski3549 České je Slezsko taky

[@marco8861]

turk

[@220volt-u7]

Bohemian pover :)

[@SerowyKról-CheeseKing]

you speak silesian so brot good, you sound like.........pole trying to speak silesian, pretending to not be pole.........you just sound brot good!

[@Aronora]

Apparently you like chlyb, jo tyż

[@danielkamilfudaa7562]

Silesians are Poles

[@marsmann4370]

Not Silesian, but only Upper Silesian. Nobody speaks this language in Lower Silesia or in Czech Silesia. Upper Silesia is only about 25% (one quarter) of all Silesia. Nie język śląski ale tylko język górnośląski. W tym języku nikt nie mówi na Dolnym Śląsku ani na Czeskim Śląsku. Górny Śląsk to tylko około 25% ( jedna czwarta ) całego Śląska.

[@Aronora]

Mówiłem że się to tylko goda w górnym Śląsku. Ale tak czy tak język się nazywa Śląski

[@michah3956]

"Nobody speaks this language in Lower Silesia or in Czech Silesia." ? Na czeskim Ślonsku też się godo. Z Dolnego Ślonska Ślonzokōw wyciepli i nazwozili chadziajōw (imigrantōw).

[@ijonus]

@michah3956 Nawet był śląski kandydat z poważnymi szansami na zwycięstwo w wyborach na prezydenta Czech w bodajże 2019, słyszołech go godać ;]

[@Uroczekotki]

Przecież na Śląsku Czeskim sporo ludzi nadal mówi po Śląsku i mówią znacznie lepiej niż większość ludzi na Górnym Śląsku. W polskich częściach są to zazwyczaj jedynie wytrącenia i mowa jest bardzo spolszczona. Kiedyś zdarzyło mi się słyszeć dzieci z terenów Czech jak mówią między sobą na wycieczce i byłam w szoku jak dobrze i płynnie to brzmi w porównaniu do ludzi z Polskich terenów.

[@goodstuff8156]

🇩🇪🤝🇵🇱

[@SerowyKról-CheeseKing]

mmmmm, das brot ist zu lecker, mmmmmmmmmm!!!!

[@marco8861]

ozbek

[@plk173]

But Silesian is a full language, just cause poland got to write their down and claim they real, doesnt make the fact. I a native speaker, im impossible to understand to polish, polish and silesian are further away than frisian anď english, but id argue dutch people can understand english/german, polish cannot understand silesians

[@danielkamilfudaa7562]

This is absolutely wrong, Silesian is a dialect of Polish, most linguists will tell you this. It's completely understandable for a Pole. It's about as distant as Southern American English from Scouse or Cockney.

[@danielkamilfudaa7562]

Polish CAN understand Silesian with no problem.

[@plk173]

@@danielkamilfudaa7562 ino jok rihtik gŏdōmy po pōł polsku. Gryfne lŏtŏ, winkosz razu. A jak haja wto nikt niwi, kiery zaczynto bez wto. Ale jak wiesz, holendzry bez problémů rozumieja Angielski I niemiecki, bo so powiazane Języki jak polski i inne słowiańskie Języki. Jako Ślązok najprosciej godo mi sie ze slowakami I czechami, nie po lakami

[@danielkamilfudaa7562]

@@plk173 Holędrzy nie rozumieją angielskiego bez nauki, niemecki tak ale mnie niż któś kto mówi po ogólnopolsku dialect śląski. Śląski wywodzi się z języka staropolskiego i jest w grupie lechickiej więc po prostu nie gada ci się lepiej z czechami, tylko tak sobie wmawiasz.

[@danielkamilfudaa7562]

@@plk173 większość językoznawców uważa śląski za dialekt więc dyskusja właściwie zamknięta.

[@dawidblachowski]

Not German and Polish Silesian, but Germanic and Slavic. The roots of Silesia tide it to Bohemia, not Poland.

[@filipkopec525]

Funny, there were 3 pro-polish uprisings in the interwar, no czech

[@dawidblachowski]

And that because they already seen Deutschland as the most prosperous country of all neighbouring ones.

[@marsmann4370]

Co to za bzdury ? Pierwszym znanym z imienia ludem zamieszkującym Śląsk byli Celtowie, którzy przybyli na początku IV wieku p.n.e. Szereg autorów starożytnych (Strabon, Pliniusz, Tacyt, Ptolemeusz, Kasjusz Dion) wspomina lud Lugiów, umieszczając go w I - II w. n.e. na obszarze dzisiejszej Polski środkowej i południowej. Według Henryka Łowmiańskiego spośród plemion lugijskich wymienionych przez Tacyta, Helizjowie (Helisii) mieli zamieszkiwać na północ od środkowej Odry, koło Kalisza, zaś Manimowie (Manimi) na Opolszczyźnie, a Naharwalowie (Naharvali) wokół góry Ślęży. W IV wieku rozpoczęła się wielka wędrówka ludów. Od połowy VII w. obszar Śląska znalazł się w zasięgu ekspansji słowiańskiej. Późniejsze źródła historyczne (m.in. Geograf Bawarski, Dokument praski) wymieniają z nazwy następujące plemiona: na zachodzie Dziadoszanie wraz z Bobrzanami nad rzeką Bóbr, dalej Ślężanie wokół Ślęży, Trzebowianie na północ od nich, Opolanie na wschód, Golęszyce w dorzeczu górnej Odry oraz Głubczycy na południowym wschodzie.

[@dawidblachowski]

@@marsmann4370 Zapomniałeś wspomnieć o Neandertalczykach którzy mieszkali tam przed Celtami.

[@marsmann4370]

@@dawidblachowski Powinieneś wiedzieć, czym współczesny człowiek różni się od neandertalczyka... Neandertalczyk - wymarły przedstawiciel rodzaju Homo, znany z plejstocenu (ok. 400 000 do ok. 24 500 lat temu), w zależności od autorów klasyfikowany jako podgatunek człowieka rozumnego - Homo sapiens neanderthalensis - lub odrębny od niego gatunek - Homo neanderthalensis... No chyba, że ty ich uważasz za swoich przodków, to wtedy tak, na Śląsku znaleziono także ( b.nieliczne ślady ) po neandertalczykach ...

[@rppl2878]

Nie semmla ,tylko ZYMLA .

[@piotrmichaowski3549]

Silesia is originaly Polish land not German. Silesian are Polish tribe same as Pomeranian, Vistulans, Polans, Mazovians, Lendzians, etc . Germans went only here as imigrants

[@Aronora]

Yeah, During the East colonization the Germans came.

[@CementaryCake]

Not true, Poland was always there as an enemy trying to conquer/loot Silesia while Holy Roman Empire and Habsburgs came peacefully. And if you want to go way back in time, it was originally Celtic, then German, then Slav tribes came, then Great Moravia, then Poland, then independent Duchy, then sharing a ruler with Czechia, then Habsburg, then Habsburg/Prussian, then German/Czech/Polish, then German and finally Polish. So, where is the 'originally Polish land'?

[@CementaryCake]

@Hirquiticke Meldrop At least check the facts dude. Poland was never a 'Kingdom of united slav tribes'. What happened in 966 was baptism of polish duke, who conquered the surrounding lands and backstabbed the western slavs. Kingdom of Poland came to be in 1025 for the rule of one king (who was getting along very well with germans as an ally), and then disappeared for 300 years - when the second king appeared..

[@piotrmichaowski3549]

@@CementaryCake Our ancestors have been living here for several thousand years, not as German propaganda claims that we came from unknown where. This is confirmed by the research of scientists. You mention the countries that ruled Silesia, you forget about one, the name of Poland is used only from the 10th century. The old name of our country is Lechia. And it was the Lechites who lived here long before the Germans came. We didn't have to conquer anything because Silesians are Lechites (Poles)

[@CementaryCake]

@@piotrmichaowski3549 We are not Poles, at least not all of us. As for Lechia, that's simply not true.

[@nhelv808]

Silesian is a dialect of Polish, not a language XDD

[@Aronora]

Whether a dialect is a language or not, is totally up to opinion. Just look at Czech and Slovak, or Dutch and Plaatdütsch, there are probably many examples (apparently a lot in South-East-Asia as I have heard once). I like to quote "A language is a dialect with an army and navy" ~ Max Weinreich

[@nhelv808]

@@Aronora Yes, and Silesia doesnt have an army and a navy. Silesian doesnt even have an alphabet. An its pretty much the same language as polish, but with slightly more german words and different pronunciation sometimes

[@Aronora]

@@nhelv808 So during the time, that Poland wasn't on the map, Polish also wasn't a language? And it has an alphabet, not only Germanic but also a lot of Czech/Slovak words, different pronunciation and grammar. What else do you need? As I said: Language and Dialect is mainly an opinion. But I think that Silesians themselves are the one to ask. a jo miyrkuja, że ślůnska godka to godka a njy dialekt.

[@jasminkrieger8464]

Yes the original silesia language got Lost it was s kingdom not part of bohemia through Poland germany and russia or should i say prussia fought over it it got smaller polish-lithauen was a thing once too

[@OjgynZeSlonska]

So why does Silesian threaten the Polish language in the opinion of the Polish government?

[@rppl2878]

Czlowieku slonski to staropolski dialekt z niemieckimi nalecialosciami .

[@michah3956]

nie. odwrotnie. Ślōnski jest starszy od polskiego. Wiele słów jest tych samych w ślōnskim co w czeskim. Polski ma sporo ruskich naleciałości.

[@rppl2878]

@@michah3956 Bzury pisxesz , widać źeś od Gorzelika :)

[@michah3956]

@@rppl2878 staropolski dialekt... a dlaczego nie staroczeski? ja? a tyś od Kaczyńskigo, Gorolu ôszkliwy.

[@rppl2878]

@@michah3956 do ksiąźek , poczytać , nauczyć się a potem dyskutować paciuloku :)

[@michah3956]

​@@rppl2878 człowieku! Nie podałeś żadnego merytorycznego argumentu, tylko zacząłeś pisać propagandowe teksty.

[@dawidos8563]

Śląsk był jest i będzie nasz !

[@e-drummer2479]

It was not. It is. Since it is, you should show some respect for it.

[@helpingtutor8863]

Silesian is a language, If you speak it properly, and not add a fuckton of Polish to makeup for not speaking pure Silesian)

[@danielkamilfudaa7562]

No, it's a dialect

[@OjgynZeSlonska]

Yes, but Poles hate Silesians.

[@misby1738]

there is no such language as silesian

[@Aronora]

Okay Bro, if you want to say such stuff, don‘t tell me on my KZbin channel. Silesian is officially an ethnolect - which kinda is a language. And you obviously want to deny that (if not ignore everything I say) But there are millions of people on earth being oppressed or languages dying out because people like you deny their existence or their right to exist. Just let us be and do your own thing, why did you care enough to write this comment?

[@Aronora]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppbGg5WQqsx6pdksi=a3OhVM67C9Da8A9o

[@marco8861]

turk