Jahara 'FRANKY' Matisek - Why our Approach to Containing Russia is Wrong & Risks Failure in Ukraine.

Jahara "FRANKY" Matisek teaches in the Department of National Security Affairs (NSA) as a Military Professor at the U.S. Naval War College. Previously, he was an Associate Professor in the MSS Department, Senior Fellow at HDI, Fellowship Director for IWI, and T-53 Instructor Pilot. He holds a Ph.D. in Political Science from Northwestern University with a Graduate Certificate in African Studies. He has been published over 90 articles in peer-reviewed journals and other outlets and
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"Trees die while standing"
Powerful photo used in video thumbnail by @YuriiHorskyi (Twitter / X)
Showing what the forests look like in combat zone in Ukraine. Some have fallen, some have only the trunk and shadow left. This is russia’s Ecocide.
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Jahara "FRANKY" Matisek is also a non-resident research fellow at the European Resilience Initiative Center: european-resilience.org/about-us
On KZbin link: / @euroresilience
See interview: • Jahara 'FRANKY' Matise...
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LINKS:
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usnwc.edu/Faculty-and-Departm...
mwi.westpoint.edu/staff/jahar...
www.rusi.org/people/matisek
warroom.armywarcollege.edu/au...
irregularwarfare.org/team/jah...
cepa.org/author/jahara-franky...
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BOOKS:
My book, Old and New Battlespaces, discusses the growing prominence of sociopolitical-information warfare (Lynne Rienner, 2022) www.rienner.com/title/Old_and...
My long-term book project, "Weak States, Strong Armies: Military Effectiveness in Africa?" (under revision) focuses on how bureaucratically weak African states become militarily effective through the creation of military enclaves.
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TRUSTED CHARITIES ON THE GROUND:
Save Ukraine
www.saveukraineua.org/
Superhumans - Hospital for war traumas
superhumans.com/en/
UNBROKEN - Treatment. Prosthesis. Rehabilitation for Ukrainians in Ukraine
unbroken.org.ua/
Come Back Alive
savelife.in.ua/en/
Chefs For Ukraine - World Central Kitchen
wck.org/relief/activation-che...
UNITED24 - An initiative of President Zelenskyy
u24.gov.ua/
Serhiy Prytula Charity Foundation
prytulafoundation.org
NGO “Herojam Slava”
heroiamslava.org/
kharpp - Reconstruction project supporting communities in Kharkiv and Przemyśl
kharpp.com/
NOR DOG Animal Rescue
www.nor-dog.org/home/
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[@daveduncan798]

One of your best interviews yet, this guy needs to be back on again as he sees things that matter very clearly.

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Mind boggling why west ,mostly US/Germany are so scared,uncertain,dont know what to call it,its weird,frustrating,of Ukraine winning??..because they CAN and WILL if got the tools,im 1000% sure of that.they showed they very capable,inovative,determed 🇺🇦💯🇸🇪

[@noname-ll2vk]

I think problem is Europe still led by peacetime leaders. Since military spending has almost no peacetime value you essentially have to bite the bullet, accept economic reality, and start changing to more war focused. This is hard for rich peacetime nations to do. Many have, particularly those close to empire's border. But not enough. Improving though. China is having increasingly dire economic problems which in this context is good.

[@domino20]

Well there’s just this little problem of setting off WW3, destroying civilization, and making the world uninhabitable. You can say the Russians would never do it because they’d be destroyed but so would the West. If it got started how would it be stopped? The fact that so many people don’t seem to care about this is what’s mind boggling.

[@moose2693]

​@@noname-ll2vkTrue but a smart leader knows that in the beginning investing in production of weapons is very good for the economy. It takes several years before the costs catch up. Lots of people get jobs and a qualified workforce needs to be trained. A spike in the economy enough to win the next election.

[@SandmanAlpha24]

7000+ nuclear weapons

[@cricketforbaseballpeople9356]

It's not "scared." It's down to individuals. The US clearly has politicians who depend on Russian campaign money. I assume that Scholz is the bastard son of Erich Honecker or something. Biden's hesitation probably has a lot more to do with managing bipartisanship within the US than anything outside of US borders. It's exactly the same in Russia. Putin would withdraw tomorrow if he thought he could do it and survive. (Spoiler: There is no way Putin can survive and I'm amazed he has manage to live this long after the war stalled in the first two weeks.)

[@dieter5220]

So much outrageous information. It is insane that is not covered by media.

[@carolwilliams8511]

Absolutely.

[@jimdale9143]

This was an excellent interview, Jonathan. I have been so impressed with the guests you have brought to the channel. I agree with Mr. Matisek's assertion that in an information age when aggressor states are conducting hybrid warfare everyone is de facto a combatant. Leon Trotsky summarized the point succinctly with his saying: "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you." We often hear of a "rules based international order". Rules that are not enforced de facto do not exist. As Mr. Matisek points out, Russia and China have been doing everything possible to defy and undercut the rules without consequence. So long as this continues we are less in a rules based order than a jungle. In a world that is being made smaller and smaller by technology there is no place to hide, would be aggressors must be met with deterrence. The Roman maxim for deterrence is no less true today than two millennia ago: "If you wish for peace, be prepared for war."

[@nicolasolton]

Agree about if you want peace, prepare for war. The problem with this is that it attracts the GWBush's of the world.

[@nicolasolton]

Rules based order or Hobbesian hell?

[@beam3819]

Exactly and the last decades the west, at least in Europe we have buildt down our millitary beliving USA will take all the cost. NATO has not got the money from the west exept from US. As in the 1930'ies we are not prepared. And not understanding Russia jas declared war UN us is unbelivable. What incompetent gvments. Russia shows in detail how nuclear bombs will burn UK to the ground in animation on Russian national TV (only channel) and several times threatening to nuke every western nation. Time our political establishment get out of their petty differences and unite to stop oir democracy from being torn to pieces. The globalist shareholdrs, the real rulers dont care about anything but their billions ans luxury living. Reminds me of the last days of the Roman Empire.

[@johnswimcat]

Another person who knows exactly what he's talking about. Our politicians and public really should listen

[@chris8612]

That was a very interesting discussion. Johnathan, you have great skill in pulling apart an issue. I appreciate your work.

[@gogudelagaze1585]

Wow, this fella isn't just qualified, he's qualified in multiple fellaships! Respect

[@steveperreira5850]

He can barely speak his native language of it American English. He talks like an eighth grader. He’s right about the F 35 Totally wrong about the US economy. It’s easy to say the economy is good when you have an “iron rice bowl” Government job. What about the rest of us. This guy isn’t the dumbest guy but he isn’t bright enough either

[@davidkottman3440]

​@@steveperreira5850 In a geopolitical context a "good economy" is on the national level compared to other countries. How we are individually doing is less important... during the 1930's Great Depression many Americans suffered while the nation continued to gain standing among the other nations of the world.

[@18_rabbit]

@@davidkottman3440 please elaborate, bcuz the commenter steveperr didn't mention those details & merely malligned Franky

[@wyskass861]

@@steveperreira5850 Reference some objective economic indicators which suggest the economy isn't doing well. It's ironic how condescending and judgemental you are about calling someone dumb and bad at speaking, when you sound like a troll who's been watching too much propaganda about the "bad economy" and parroting.

[@DarkestAlice]

Thank you, Jonathan and Jahara "Franky" Matisek, for your conversation. Very much appreciated! 🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

[@LasertechStudios3142]

54:30 As an American who was laid off from their job last year and has been working retail in a grocery store for 9 months now, the “Biden mishandled the economy” angle is complete BS. I’m glad the polling on that topic is finally turning around.

[@DimitriZelen]

I'm confused....so you're saying Biden has handled the economy well?

[@LasertechStudios3142]

@@DimitriZelen Yes.

[@DimitriZelen]

@LasertechStudios3142 yet...you were laid off and stuck at a gas station? Lmfao. Biden has you brainwashed. Lmfao

[@djparn007]

Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦

[@yootoobnz8109]

Exactly right: we are in the late 1930's, and the west still doesn't realize it!

[@CarolynAcosta-mw2dl]

Great hearing that there are voices in the Military that know and understand the problems of escalation management and disinformation warfare; I hope someday soon that viewpoint will have greater clout throughout the US and NATO countries.

[@christiangarcorz9182]

Thank you so much This was the most accurate statement of the situation today as I daily inform myself about the war in Ukraine. Yes we’re at war ! Many people need to open their eyes and their ears so that their mindset can fully and rightly apprehend the situation as soon as possible. Again THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SPIRIT !

[@thestraightroad305]

So glad your guest addressed Africa. Thanks for all your work and ability to engage brilliant guests, Jonathan.

[@AK-47Outlaw]

Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦✌🏼

[@ch1m1ch0nga]

One of your very best speakers yet (and that's saying A LOT, sir!). Spectacular interview. This gentleman needs to be in the US Senate, but he's probably used to actually getting things done. Still...

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@cmbergersct3492]

Thank you for this interview! Really enlightening & fascinating. You are The Bom!

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@zedbou5040]

Amazing how asleep Europe are to all this. They just let it all unfold i front of their eyes. Britain included.

[@ItsMe_Hello_People]

Great interview! Thank you so much! ❤️🇺🇦

[@JMM33RanMA]

Thanks for interviewing Jahara, he is an example of several of the US's potential advantages IF they are in play. I mean that he is educated, thoughtful and articulate, quite a step up from the opinion many people had of the US military personnel of the Vietnam era and possibly before. Another advantage is one that the Irish and German Americans have enjoyed and that the Polish and Ukrainian American communities could put to use, political influence. Pennsylvania is a very important "swing state" with a sizable Polish American community that dates back to the 18th Century. Thanks, again, for another fascinating and important video.

[@18_rabbit]

very good points i say, as an american. Very astute re our military's image in the past. I'm almost mid 50's y.o. and that is indeed the impression quite a few of us (gen X & older) had of our own military in the aftermath of Vietnam, though i have to admit that partly it was an unfounded reputation at that time. There really were highly professional and thoughtful and decent members of our military, whom ive had very personal open talks with myself (ppl who were in the war). But it was a mixed bag of course. In any case, when u consider some of our bright minds in the officer corp that are retired, e.g. Hertling, Hodges, u can see these are some of the most thoughful intelligent & articulate ppl in any realm, let alone military. Anyway, as for being in play or not, i have no idea what our U.S. mil capabilities are, but it's very possible we're learning fast by observing & interacting w/ Ukr. That learning has been talked about by various U.S. mil ppl in the past two years. My wild guestimates are that the U.S. would be optimally ready for a hopefully slam-dunk of warfare w/ Russia & China, simulteously with the help of coalitions, by around '26, '28, not really clear on timeframes at all. Obviously that could be too late, bcuz NKorea is behaving very aggressively, and China obviously cannot be trusted for the most part (i'm especially concerned they may attack Taiwan in an insane war-of-choice purely to boost their own economy which started having structural problems many years ago for the first time in 20-40 years of growth. My wild hunch is that China would fail in its ultimate goals, which is purely 'genocidal', ie to socially personally dominate the descendants of chinese who've lived on Taiwan since the founding of PRC . China has no major benefits by owning Taiwan. Most of taiwanese brains/braintrusts (some of the deepest on earth) and wealth will leave the island or die trying. Most will never cooperate with PRC in any fashion whatsoever, under any circumstances. China risks internal rebellion of the PRC, if it invades, imho.

[@JMM33RanMA]

@@18_rabbit That was a very thoughtful reply. My own thoughts on the matter come because I am in my seventies and was on campus when the Kent State atrocity occurred. I was in S. Korea in the early Seventies with Peace Corps and went back in '88 to work with the ROK military. Though never uniformed personnel I have worked with US and allied militaries as an educator. I believe much of the improvement in the US military is because of the transition to all volunteer forces and emphasis on professionalism. One of the most intelligent army guys I ever met in the 70s-80s was an MP. On vacation in Europe I met two guys hiding their military affiliation and taking a very cultured/educated interest in antiquities and culture. Some of the old negative opinion, even in my case, was due to news reports, movie portrayals of military people being militaristic idiots, etc. Of course a young guard member disclosing secrets for "clout" doesn't help the image. The problem remains that "one rotten apple spoils the barrel," imagewise, as well as group cohesion and motivation.

[@jamesmedina2062]

@@JMM33RanMAI think that most police departments suffer from recruiting the wrong kind of people just like the military branches are attracting the wrong kind of people especially at a young age, these people in my opinion are often given huge amounts of money as incentive and reward. But overall there is a lot of great potential within the military for ideas and talent. Now, though the big limiter is in the political domain, there is garbage people and garbage ethics and ideals. Why weren't Biden's and Trump's political ambitions thwarted by excellent and ethical candidates? Are real ethics such a threat to our government and political systems? How can anything in the world thrive when the leader of the free world is one or another version of a senile asshole? As a nation we become extremely vulnerable having dangerously old men "lead" us and defend us as this man alludes to.

[@pcopeland15]

Thank you.

[@olena-]

As a Ukrainian soldier said: "The Western army and NATO countries developed their systems using GPS. And Russian military machine use their resources, in my opinion, most of its resources for the last decade or more to work towards counterattack GPS system. In this war, we are in AI competition, it all leads to one element. We want the drones to be able to detect their surroundings without [GPS] assistance. So essentially the targets and surroundings will already be registered in the algorithm".

[@18_rabbit]

if i understand the quote accurately enough, that is right: after the cold war, Ru continued it's R&D specifically re E-warfare, and the U.S. stopped doing so. This is a major difference, and Ru now has E-warfare skills and tech that the west appears not to have. That's a major issue for Ukr, and imho, ultimately could be disastrous and could lead to Ukr truly needing outside direct warfare fighting assitance, ie a few countries would form a coalition w/ Ukr and finish this war up. Personally, after having studied a lot of history, war, and other fields including econ, all at an elite school in D.C., that is the possibility i am seeing, if Ukr is not given the ACTUALLY appropriate weapons and the free hand to use them as they see fit!!!

[@jamesmedina2062]

@@18_rabbitI watched a study yesterday on Russian WW2 air doctrine which mostly supports front line artillery and it made me think there are lots of air assets that could be given to Ukraine to at least inflict real pain on RU such as helicopters, A-10, and other gunships. Plus why has the US still absolutely refused to supply any F-16? Did Russia not cross every red line? Give them EW aircraft as well but I believe Joe Biden has refused to give them a single aircraft.

[@Shoelessjoe78]

​@@18_rabbitit's a bit overstated. There's several severe gaps in Russian capabilities which is why they are North of 300k casualties. They have poor C&C, terrible coms, an underdeveloped NCO and Jr officer corps etc. let's not go pretending like they actually have their act together.

[@cmbergersct3492]

I would love to see Franky as a regular guest. I learn so much from your talk. P.S. I'm in Oakland, CA (for yr stats)

[@SiliconCurtain]

👍👍👍

[@luminyam6145]

That was a fantastic interview. Jonathan I love this series. I cannot thank you enough for your channel. I have learned so much.

[@Triplejtriplem]

Very informative content and eye-opening for the people who avoid accepting the reality that there has been a grave threat to world peace and security.

[@nicolaebulgaru]

Difficult times. We live in a undeclared world war for at least the last 20 years

[@zetristan4525]

💔 The US and UK are addicted to the war mindset. Even despite the huge popular protests in 2003. Not even willing to discuss with enemies until it's too late for innocent human beings caught in the "crossfire". And every time they lie to us, they say no, it's the other side that lies incessantly. (It's like when Israel kills 15000 children, they say, No we were just defending ourselves! Conscienceless) 🗽💔

[@marrs1013]

Don't mix terrorism with a world war. Even the war in Ukraine is not a world war. Every nation has the right to find allies in a war to help. Maybe you can call it a proxy war the West got forced into by Russia, who started this war, but even that is a stretch. The West supports Ukraine to set an example to the world. That's it.

[@zetristan4525]

My reply is censored off? But it still notifies me of further comments, how considerate.

[@marrs1013]

@@zetristan4525 Type it in again, try to be more general about it. Then we can work from that. Might used words that triggered a response.

[@zetristan4525]

@@marrs1013 The full message is still in my own Comment History - if one does too close a copypaste tho, one can get some ban. Incidentally, read the humbly-written online piece _A War Long Wanted_ by USMC Capt Matthew Hoh for more balanced depiction of the truth.

[@cindianajones9049]

I look forward to hearing. more from "Franky". Excellent discussion. Thank you

[@piseag458]

Fab guest and interview, will the powers that be listen!.. probably not!.. thanks SC

[@Madbunyip3]

What a guest list you are accumulating. Thank you.

[@jeanneknight4791]

This was brilliant discussion. Thank you so much for bring Matisek to my attention, Jonathan. He is located just miles away but I would not have known about him. I am glad we are having this discussion. He is saying what I find myself thinking as I am sure you do even more so about updating doctrines, IW, treaties, tech, etc. Please bring back!

[@steveperreira5850]

I don’t see how this was a brilliant discussion. The guy isn’t a total dummy but he isn’t a genius either. It was very difficult for me as an American to listen to him butcher the English language. He’s better at that than anything else from what I can tell. By sheer brute Force, he has figured out that the F 35 is a waste of money. I’ll give him credit for that

[@jeanneknight4791]

@@steveperreira5850 I think he may be a stutterer who has for the most part overcome it. Additionally, he speaks as many do who are engineers or other professionals in military contracting and the DOD. Believe me, I know Matisek contemporaries that are "brilliant" in the sole American use of the word meaning high IQ and with superior executive functioning capabilies. The British use "brilliant" constantly, including our host, and intend it to be a superlative in a general and overarching category of "well done" and as conversaton marking points the way you use a period in a sentence. In the USA, the word "excellent" ia an equivalent in over use. People such as Matisek learn to speak to the common man in commonalities when lecturing to wide varieties of the public and eighteen year-olds. When you teach or train adults, it is useful to be able to switch into the regular guy mode.

[@panthersgy1]

@@jeanneknight4791- you’re correct about me having a stutter that I’ve had to overcome since my childhood

[@jeanneknight4791]

@@panthersgy1 You were wonderful. My brother-in-law's brother sounds just like you. And, you are in the same industry as both of them. I feel like I already knew you.

[@NelsonZAPTM]

​@@steveperreira5850do you want a potato?

[@HenryP.-mr5gn]

Extremely good! Hope that as many people as possible in the west can hear this. Thanks a lot

[@wyattdean5192]

This guy was really great. Would love to see him back on sometime

[@coodudeman]

THIS is the way.

[@SandmanAlpha24]

He's already a US consultant.. That's why he started with the disclaimer. Luckily he's on the good side. A true Patriot and overall good man.

[@ferfromla]

This man needs to be listened to. He said it best, I get it. But he gets with a clarity many of our leaders cannot see.

[@Awibrahor]

Another brilliant guest! This channel keeps me sane.

[@FishandHunt]

Excellent guest and interview. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🔱💪🏻🇦🇺

[@DougWedel-wj2jl]

This is absolutely valuable. Understanding what they teach at war college is useful. But it sounds like only half of the topic of how to deal with other sovereign countries. There is so much which might be taught across the street from the war college, at a peace college. Stephen Kotkin talks about winning the war and treating the rest as a separate topic, that of winning the peace. I hear Mr Kotkin giving lip service without taking the time to spell out how to “conduct peace,” “win the peace,” “fighting a peace of attrition,” etc. He just talks about Germany and Japan lost WW2 but we won the peace with them after and they are close allies. The US lost the war against Vietnam but he claims “we won the peace” and now get along well with them. This contrasts strongly with how they deal with Cuba, Venezuela and ... and Russia. So what are ways to “conduct peace”? Gene Sharp’s “civilian based defence” is warfare using nonviolent means. It really is fighting nonviolently but not really waging peace although it may lead to peace much faster than how we usually think of as war. Marshall Rosenberg’s work fits the definition of waging peace. Chris Voss doesn’t think hostage negotiation as he applies to business and everything else, he doesn’t think it applies to war (or waging peace to end war). He says you ask the other side, It sounds like you want to get out of this alive. And if you hear back I don’t give a crap if I get out alive, then you can use that information to assess if you would be better off storming them and killing everybody. They won’t cooperate in order to live anyway. Applied to Putin... if he says, A world without Russia is not a world worth having, we can take that as he won’t negotiate because he’s not interested in peace. We need to go in and wipe them out. Ironically, if he really thought a world without Russia is not a world worth having and this invited Russia’s annihilation, he would be better off surrendering, even submitting himself to the courts in The Hague. Deep listening, the kind Chris talks about can be used for understanding cultures and politics and balances of power and is extremely effective for how to use weapons, how to posture politically, economically and how to “wage peace” with Russia, China, Venezuela... everybody. One of the best ways to fight both MAGA and the Russian Orthodox Church is asking them, What would Jesus do? He taught peace, then he shed blood... his own. He “waged peace.” I can’t see that being taught in any war college. You need to go across the street for that. So. What’s my position? First is... I don’t know how to stop the war in Ukraine by using war or by waging peace. Second. I keep looking for answers. I know it’s possible to end this war, like Trump said, in 48 hours. I also know it’s impossible for Trump. And it’s impossible for me. Because we don’t know how. Yet.

[@18_rabbit]

interesting thoughts & references. Will look up and relook up some of those guys. The psychodyanamic & stylistic aspects of russian antics are not at all easy for westerners to grok (grasp) accurately. Those of us who've had close personal connections to various slavs are much more aware of how dramatic the russians are. It's part of the b.s. nature of how they deal and how they conceive of reality. One thing is almost certain: Ru itself (not nec. Putin) is not suicidal. THAT is a fact. And that elite there, unlike perhaps the Iranian or Talibani elite, is not suicidal.

[@DougWedel-wj2jl]

Stephen Kotkin suggested Ukraine could give up Crimea and in this sense lose the war and later win the peace, like the US did with Vietnam. At the same time Crimea is vulnerable to being put under seige and it’s a valuable “unsinkable aircraft carrier” useful for dominating the Black Sea. So it will be hard to convince Russia to give it up. That seems to be the reasoning of Mr Kotkin. But it doesn’t sound like acquiescing to Russia on something as significant as Crimea will promote peace. The most powerful proof is, if giving Russia would build peace, they would not have invaded in 2022. Regardless, there are others who know peacemaking. Chris Voss doesn’t see his negotiation skills apply to Putin but I respectfully beg to differ. I see so many interviews of Putin which are opposite to Mr Voss’ techniques. I never see his techniques being used when dealing with Russia but I know they are effective.

[@DougWedel-wj2jl]

@18_rabbit, I appreciate your insights. You are right the elite, the leaders of Russia, they are not suicidal despite them not regretting the lost lives of lower class Russians.

[@WillAllen22]

Very interesting. Great guest!

[@Yolanta-gh1oc]

Thank you for the program 🇺🇦🇵🇱

[@basilcharleston8793]

Exceptionally interesting and important conversation. This level of understanding is a must if the West is to prevail over the bad guys.

[@user-ph5ys7ed7i]

Poo-tin is good at screaming "Kyiv in THREE DAYS!"

[@DavidCarvalho-iz4ny]

Not Putin or any Russian official ever said Kiev in 3 days get you’re facts straight before spewing absolute nonsense

[@drecepy6213]

Said by American Gen.Milley,and NEVER by President Putin...🙄

[@marrs1013]

A 2 months old account making provocative statements to trigger response... Not suspicious at all. Try again, comrade!

[@rossr6616]

The World is calling to hear Swan Lake!

[@anthonykaiser974]

​​@@drecepy6213okay, so add another week, because RUSI is confident that (10 days) was his actual expectations. Even if not, the only way Putin wins is the West gets cold feet.

[@tonyplank]

Great interview. Definitely have him on again.

[@chrismackenzie4789]

Very informative. Excellent interview.

[@duanephipps4714]

Excellent discussion thank you for this dose of reality

[@symbionese2348]

LTC Matisek is a delight to spend time with, and this discussion is edifying to anyone who cares to listen to it. However, we are past world war III, and are up to WW IV or WW V now. Upon the conclusion of WWII, the Soviet Union started a world war of infiltration and encirclement of the free world via proxy nations. Simultaneous with that, an economic world war (IV) developed among the emerging economies which displaced the United States as the preeminent industrial power. After the brief enlightenment in Russia, Czar Vladimir moved to the throne and started his war (V) of imperialism. Indeed, we had better brighten up and fight it smartly.

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Ground forces will allways be key,they win battles..artillery,IFVs,tanks,MLRS,infantry,different precision weapons,drone units...

[@HELESPONTify]

Your room and First line like Andromeida and Milk way!!!

[@Aussie-Mocha]

Yep! Another extraordinary interview! Tools of Warfare are changing fast. Thanks gentlemen ✊🏻

[@davidmckenna1988]

"This was Russia's explicit decision to make. To do this. They are welcome to leave at anytime."

[@piseag458]

In some ways russia has already left, by turning its back on international order and civilised world.. not the sort of peaceful leaving of Ukraine that we would wish for though 🫤

[@felipe-vibor]

By civilized world you mean the West? Because Russia still has very good relationship with the rest of the world except the West. The rest won't be bothered by the opinion of anglo Saxos.

[@NelsonZAPTM]

​@felipe-vibor, congratulations on your potato 🥔

[@piseag458]

@felipe-vibor The United Nations general assembly (UNGA) has again *condemned* Russia over *its* invasion of Ukraine, calling for Moscows *immediate* withdrawal and an end to the fighting. 141 countries backed the resolution while only 7 voted against, one of which was Russia.. *that* civilised world

[@jackperson3626]

Thanks!

[@johncromwell2529]

Very informative! Scarily so!

[@kevkeary4700]

That man is NOT pulling the political rope

[@davidpamely217]

A qualified person who understands how the Ukraine war is in danger of being lost by using out of place ideas on strategy and an incapacity to keep pace with innovation and weaponry. Moreover, a qualified thinker who sees the tactics of a hidden war as a trans continental conflict and sees how a war on European soil can be won. It is a pity Jahara is in the classroom rather than high level NATO planning. I would value his speaking again on Silicon Curtain.

[@samplumbe3288]

Fascinating and alarming

[@lsees5753]

Looks like this’ll be great!

[@keithdunwoody1302]

Your guest is so right, i.e., that we need our so-called leaders to make it clear that we began fighting WWIII when RuZZia invaded Ukraine in 2022 if we weren't already in a hybrid sense. We need to stand firm and make the case for liberal democracy. This is extremely important.

[@rossr6616]

and when Russia F’ed around with our elections with GOP assist!

[@Andriig75]

ruZZia started this war in 2014

[@jamesmedina2062]

and why not stop funding all the expensive weapons if they are not going to be used? Sure some deterrent weapons are fine but we are fielding a nearly useless military and going into the poorhouse doing it.

[@keithdunwoody1302]

@@jamesmedina2062 I have often wondered the same thing since RuZZia's full scale invasion. We have assumed that future wars will be super high tech, but not in the way we are seeing. I don't think we insane a full scale ground war in Europe. Meanwhile our adversaries are stocking up on cheap, old fashioned arms, and this war has shown us that drone swarms are the future. F-35s are awesome weapons, but might be largely useless in the conflicts of tomorrow. Tanks are already pretty much pointless considering the terrain in Ukraine.

[@jamesmedina2062]

@@keithdunwoody1302 The problems on the battlefield are a reflection of the problems in our manufacturing base. Right or wrong? For 20-30 years we opted(as executives) to outsource all the lower stuff to China, but especially with robotics and industrial tooling, you need to be on top of everything. We are only in trouble versus China on economics and manufacturing. How did you take the insane 100% tariff proposed on importer EV's?? Talk about a brain-dead approach!! Why can't we instead tax(petroleum) and invest intelligently in manufacturing in the Americas? Already labor rate is cheaper in Mexico than China and yet the super dumb politicians do not put 2 and 2 together that we can invest in latin America and simultaneously reduce influx of aliens across the border and outcompete China. We refuse to seriously invest in the future with investment in hi speed rail and small businesses. Our whole society has been taken back to the stone age just simply with bad government, corrupt Supreme courts, and bad media MAINLY as a result of corrupt government. Its no mystery why then Russia and US are in proxy war as they both have very corrupt media and government. It trickles up all the way into foreign policy which is agreed to be at the worst level of competency in 100 years.

[@suethompson1736]

Mindboggling, so frightening. Thanx 2 both 4 opening my eyes.❤

[@andrearnold5664]

KZbin keeps unsubscribing me from your channel. This has happened multiple times in the past weeks. I'm in Canada, and strongly support the mission and message of your channel.

[@sujac664]

Another excellent, informative interview! Thank you JF

[@pqpodpierrequibell2647]

Lots of useful information here!!

[@cornyhorsecornhorsington7522]

Excellent episode just saying

[@strangeke7750]

Ive literally been feeling this for years now. Been feeling helpless with the government seemingly doing nothing to combat this blatant attack.

[@jerrybruce2295]

Excellent interview! I’ve felt that WW III started a good while ago and the sooner our politicians realize it the better off we will be

[@carolwilliams8511]

Our cowardly politicians need to listen to men like this. They are clueless.

[@EeeEee-bm5gx]

I love this guy. Everyone in my infobubble thinks almost the same things he's saying

[@jakebarnes28]

Troll better Igor

[@CM-ey7nq]

Yeah. Don't have much to add that's not said below, but I'd most surely listen to this guy again.

[@chrisperegoy7589]

Best show yet

[@dsnewby]

Fantastic conversation. thank you so much for this brilliant content!

[@dwarftomatoproject]

Such an important discussion, and the realisation of how wrong our assumptions about the mentality differences between autocracies and democracies is a bombshell in itself! Both think they are superior to the other!

[@Squarepeg57]

Fantastic and terrifying interview. What a great guest. Good work.

[@JAllenKaiser]

Some civilian viewers might be helped to understand the broader context of this brilliant commentary by also watching Anders Puck Nielsen’s latest (short) video explaining the difference between Tactical, Operational (“Ops”,) and Strategic. As he points out, even civilian journalists often miss the significance of the difference between those military-jargon terms.

[@Donovanwashere]

Great work, Jonathan! 💪🇺🇦🇺🇸

[@sumiland6445]

💛💙💜💙💛 listening uninterrupted 😁👍 🇺🇦 🌏 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

[@astrolingus]

Superb interview!!! I wish our cyber punks would email draft notices to all the males in Moscow and other main cities where they go about life as if nothing is happening. . Especially to the oligarchs kids. When this group is tapped, the power structure will alter.

[@rogerlevy57]

Thanks for timely updates, you are very reliable with minimal exaggeration an good at clarifying when what is known is part speculation. I notice from listening to Russian propaganda that they have a problem with boundaries and objectives. Russians are good investors when it come to expansion. When I say good, I mean willing, look at Stalin who invaded Poland in 1939 because he could then get half a (Slavic) country for minimal effort. But he then had the Empire problem of "boundary insecurity", which means that he then had a sworn enemy right across from his front fence. As for now, the Russian Federation doesn't know when to stop or when they will be safe. Sometimes Putin says he will be satisfied with Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, Kherson, Crimea and Odessa and an emasculated and approved regime in Kiev with virtually no army. But the propagandists with their usual verbal diarrhea manage to leak the Kremlins real feelings...Ukraine is just a start, Warsaw is next, the Baltics in two days, march back into Berlin, back into Paris, all of Europe, when we are in Lisbon etc. Which just means that these people are never going to feel safe whatever they "win". They started with an SMO police operation to mop up some Nazis, and round up their "cousin" Ukrainian Russians and get them back into the fold. But now that they are at war with the West, and half of the rest of the world. They have sowed the wind and are reaping the whirlwind. The economist who is now in charge of the Ministry of Defence will be doing some accounting in his head: well we have invested 850 billion in this war so far, and including the lost frozen $350 billion, our losses stand at $500 billion, so we need to gain at least two Trillion to make this balance out in our favour.. I predict that in 12 months time, he will be realizing that the increasing investment needed to "win", the devastating costs to Russia's economy, the diminishing returns will start to look like they will be destroying their own country to win nothing, just like Germany did.

[@donotmislead]

Q: Stalin who invaded Poland in 1939... A: Stalin did not invade Poland in 1939, he invaded western Ukraine, occupied by Poland since 1919.

[@donotmislead]

Q: Ukrainian Russians... A: Ukrainians are the only historical Rusь, Russians or Ruthenians on this planet. Muscovy weaponized its Muscovite migrants who have been shipped to the Ukrainian SSR in millions in order to replace the Ukrainians murdered in three genocides of 1921, 1932 and 1946.

[@njswampfox474]

​@@donotmisleadNo. He invaded Poland and territories that are western Ukraine today.

[@donotmislead]

Q: No... A: Is merely a denial ignoring the reality.

[@donotmislead]

Q: He invaded Poland and territories that are western Ukraine today... A: He invaded Ukraine and Ukrainian territories occupied by Poland since 1919, of which fact this Pole was not informed in his primary school.

[@KingCold1986]

Great interview, very insightful!

[@thilomanten8701]

We have opened up to their venom of greed and corruption, they have never opened up likewise to law and freedom!

[@user-fu8gy3py6s]

Thanks for your incredible work

[@sirrodneyffing1]

The NLAW was most visible in saving Ukraine in the very first days; and, love him or hate him, that was due to Boris's foresight.

[@torontobro]

Useful idiots are active by definition but passive idiots who just don’t care enough to take a stand are also on the side of enemies to a rules based order

[@kevkeary4700]

very scary prospects in the history of humanity, my father was a geologist, so in that I find solice. Rocks tell many stories.

[@user-sv1cf4dn5o]

thank you

[@jiyushugi1085]

The prevarication of the West is a good example of the corrupting influence of wealth.Westerners are more concerned with maintaining their comfortable lifestyles than combating what threatens them.

[@domino20]

There are valid concerns about escalation. To think we’ll resort to conventional warfare to settle differences between major nuclear powers doesn’t make sense. The side that’s losing will threaten to use nukes and the side that’s winning won’t want to give in so how does it not become a terrible brinksmanship? A long time ago President Kennedy said it’s not a good idea to make your adversary choose between a humiliating defeat and nuclear war and he was right. People like your guest here who advocate for escalation are playing with fire. Whether it’s the status of some territories in Ukraine, the Middle East, Taiwan or any other place, these disputes have to be defused by negotiation or the world is doomed.

[@Bob-nd2mr]

one for the algo >>. WELL DONE UKRAINE Oleksandr Usyk found a second wind to be crowned the undisputed heavyweight world champion in his fight against Tyson Fury. Fury dominated the first half of the fight, dancing his way around the ring by showboating whenever he could for the Riyadh crowd. Usyk remained focused and made a magnificent comeback in the second half of the fight, forcing the referee to issue a count to Fury as the ropes held him up in the ninth round. The Brit somehow stayed in the fight but was unable to ever regain the momentum he found in the earlier rounds. Usyk was disciplined until the final bell and did enough to get the nod on two judges' scorecards after the final bell, adding the final world title he needed to become undisputed.

[@barrylane1055]

Excellent! I can name a few useful idiots for you. Samuel Charap, Anatol Lieven, Nicolai Petro, Charles Kupchan, Thomas Graham, John Mearsheimer, Stephen Kotkin, Jake Sullivan and the present staff at Foreign Affairs! I would like to see you invite them on the show to explain their complicity with the Kremlin!!!

[@user-mz3in7vo5b]

What military need, is an autentic arena, where drones, can fight drones, testing own and ENEMY SYSTEMS LIVE!

[@jeremiah_dyess]

Sub'd and shared.

[@mikeshaunnessey9303]

It's because we have evolved from the "Total Warrior" mentality as a species and prefer co-existing with our fellow humans over destroying them.

[@factabulous]

Very interesting talk - I've thought for a while that the west's policies are mainly helping to train Russia while we watch on, getting more and more behind the curve. Not entirely convinced that drones are a complete answer - they help hold a battlefield against a larger force but they aren't bringing the war to a close - imagine if Ukraine had access to more advanced western missiles that could threaten major Russian cities / industries.

[@CharlieNordlinger]

Excellent ideas

[@kevkeary4700]

when it comes to russia, we should not smell ourselves about how brillant we think we are we should instead always be suspicious of them

[@alandoak5146]

I thought this guest had a lot of really good points.

[@Mattjki]

Great coversation. I was a little surprised about the answer about killing individual russian soldiers, who gave up, with drones. This simply falls under the laws of war. Russia violates the laws of war far more than Ukraine and in more egregious ways, but we already have standard laws of war. This answers the question "can you kill an unarmarmed combatant?" No. But the laws of war also answer the question of attacks in Russia. Yes! ...It is completely within the laws of war to strike legitimate military targets in an invading country! It is completely fabricated by the West that we can't strike targets within russia!

[@Andrey-kn6yg]

About drone AI. 2 years is quite optimistic estimate. It is already exists, and it's cheap. For now this technology on the scaling phase. So it is about 6-9 month from now to have first 100k of such kind of drones. About targeting single soldier with FPV drone. We have a wide front line. And no segment of this front line like another. Everywhere something different. Near Kharkiv ruski assault with company level unit but on their feet. Near Chasiv Yar it is mostly mechanized assault with 3-15 of some kind of armored vehicles. Near Robotine ruski try to infiltrate our position at night with many small group (2-5 soldiers), then dig personal tranches. If more then 5 of such groups assemble together, it became significant problem. It is much easier to neutralize them one by one. Wholesale price of the cheapest FPV is 150-170$ (w/o ammunition). Same as ruski soldier life.

[@stephenhill545]

Why don't our stupid politicians listen to the people who know what they're talking about? History will be astounded.

[@valdud9745]

Good

[@yttean98]

J. Matisek, you said the above when you know now that the US strategy was wrong, this is because this because you know now the outcome is not what they are after, that is with a 20/20 hindsight. If it were to work you would have said what a brilliant strategy.

[@jakebarnes28]

What?

[@csmiller5221]

All the theories in the world do not resolve the problem of failing to meet your enlisted recruiting and retention goals. As a former AFSC 30554 Electronic Computer and Switching Systems Repairman in the late 1970s, I had to work on that relic IBM AN/FSQ-7 SAGE vacuum tube computer that was obsolete from the day It went live in the late 1950s. Back then the only country still manufacturing vacuum tubes was the USSR. Are you meeting your recruiting goals TODAY?

[@squireson]

With respect to drones: "The unit cost to them made no sense ...." Take a look at switchblade and then let it sink in just how ingrained _gouging with government contracts_ really is. The markup for a military contract is presumed by startups etc to be astronomical. Fortunately, we may already be in a situation where competition will expose phonies as not actually providing unique solutions.

[@jakebarnes28]

You want solutions to unique problems and dilemmas for cheap?