Thanks for watching. Please give my video a *LIKE* and *SUBSCRIBE* to my channel. I hope this helps you realize how BIG this problem is and if you are spending money and taking the time to do your ow repairs GET what you are paying for. Manufacturers are fighting these scumbags but they aren't giving up and want to rip all of us off. I hope this helps you.
@watershed444 жыл бұрын
@Silver Cymbal If the price is too good to be true it probably is! NEVER buy parts from e bay at least critical service parts like timing belts and pullies!
@matthewronsson4 жыл бұрын
I hope that you contacted and then reported this seller.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewronsson Yes I did, but sadly they are still happily selling away along with dozens of other frauds. eBay took no action I could see
@OffGridInvestor4 жыл бұрын
Hyundai have holograms on all their parts bags. But REGARDLESS the aftermarket parts are SO INCREDIBLY bad that they're often fake parts like as in parts that DON'T EVEN WORK. I recently came across a Kia Sedona (hyundai owned) that had a cheap oil filter put on probably full of toilet paper that sucked the filter paper INTO THE OIL PUMP because it disintegrated SO easily and killed the engine as a result of almost no oil pressure.
@moroccoforever70924 жыл бұрын
Big 👍From 🇲🇦 Morocco . I did learn from you where & how to purchase parts ...Thank you again .
@slim564 жыл бұрын
eBay and Amazon need to crack down on this type of fraud.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I know Amazon is to a degree. Not sure how they can completely eliminate it though sadly.
@alb123456724 жыл бұрын
@@SilverCymbal Amazon also has co-mingling, if the bar code matches it don't matter who the supplier is.news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13926015 This is something no one talks about.
@user-zq6pj5jo8j4 жыл бұрын
They need to stop allowing Chinese companies from selling on them, or make a Made in China version so you know its cheap, fake, crap. Some things cheap are just fine, but somethings like safety items or brake pads should never be fake or cheap.
@jamesdavies6864 жыл бұрын
Vote with your wallet. Buy from the dealer or RockAuto
@AndreS_-df2nw4 жыл бұрын
I've had some stuff on Rockauto that was cheap fakes too. AC Delco filters cut open same as Fram, cardboard crap. Cheap belts, cheap brake shoes.... Etc. Sometimes it tough to decifer the quality vs the cheap crap. I've even seen the same crap from local auto parts, terrible quality.... I had an alternator from one company with a "lifetime warranty" that died 4 times... They started to claim it was my car & wouldn't warrantee it anymore, so I put a used oem one on from eBay, no more problems.
@this_time_imperfect4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I just head someone say, "if you don't want to get ripped off go to the dealership."
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Hehehehe in this case it's true. I bargain with the parts counter, be nice to them and tell them to match online, they don't always but if you get to know one of the guys there sometimes they will always do it for you. That's the bets situation you can get.
@MarcelloTheBandit4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can make friends and get deals. I'm friends with the billing manager and some of the parts guys at my local Volvo and Ford dealerships because we find parts for each other sometimes. Something that's now discontinued can be found somewhere else (like eBay) but they REALLY know the parts so they can tell if they're fake or not between looking at the part and feeling it in their hand.
@aaronbritt20254 жыл бұрын
@@SilverCymbal Here in Las Vegas, all dealers charge 20% over list unless you call them on it.
@TheWilferch3 жыл бұрын
I can walk into my Toyota dealer and pay $$$..... OR...I can buy from THEIR web page for delivery to the dealer....wait a day or 2 to be informed it's "here"...and then walk into the dealership and pay about 1/2. Just the way it works....the dealer can't match his own website prices......just yesterday bought 5 Toyota oil filters for about $21 total, delivered.
@paulotrentinifilho74273 жыл бұрын
@@TheWilferch I’ve had the same experience. Apparently the manufacturer subsidies the online purchases but not in store.
@getsufuma25973 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not some dealerships are even putting non-oem parts in your car when you get service from them, and insurance companies allow body shops to fix your vehicle with non-oem parts after a collision. This is a horrible time to be a consumer.
@tyle65917 ай бұрын
you right all dealerships in california do that i buy new camry they offer 4 time oil chage 2 time a year in 6 month i drop only 3000k miles before i go to dealer for service i mark the oil filter .after service when go home i see my oil filter still they never change from now on i do by my self f dealership
@yehtan4 жыл бұрын
For my next car I going to get chinese-made Geely, this way I can be sure I am getting a real fake.
@djvasforever4 жыл бұрын
Or just buy a Volvo then
@ast55154 жыл бұрын
@@djvasforever I was about to say that :D
@tigertrail33614 жыл бұрын
Even Chinese brands are copied... remember: brands
@Honestandtruth0073 жыл бұрын
EveryOne should know that China and some other countries are Masters of Copycat in Everything including Secret Spy...
@2jz4life353 жыл бұрын
😆
@fmaz19524 жыл бұрын
EBay has become such a dump, it's sad.
@Malossianoplus4 жыл бұрын
Amazon too.. fake spark plug,ecc..
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
It used to be so awesome, like the old flea markets. Now all it is a gateway for endless imported junk, fake products and cell phone cases.
@NotSoCrazyNinja4 жыл бұрын
eBay is great so long as you go to it realizing you're going to get CCJ (Cheap Chinese Junk). You can find a plethora of items that will "do the job" for much cheaper than you can get elsewhere. Sure, the quality will be a little dodgy, and you may get ripped off from time to time, but, a lot of money can be saved if you know what you're looking at and aren't afraid to send the items back/complain to eBay. So far, I've been satisfied with my eBay purchases. I just got an aluminum ladder today. Sure, it's a little dodgy, but for what I need it for, it "will do just fine" and cost half of the cost of a similar ladder from Walmart or Amazon. You get what you pay for, and I doubt this ladder will last a lifetime, but it will do for what I need and last long enough. Not like I'm going to be using it commercially or for heavy-duty use.
@binladen27394 жыл бұрын
F Maz Dump also like Fukcbook
@bentullett60684 жыл бұрын
Agreed. As a sales person for garden machinery I see so much rubbish machinery being sold on Amazon and eBay at cheap prices. Issue is if it goes wrong and you review it on their listing or their own company website, they always have the same comment to show that they replied back and apparently care about you"We are sorry that the product you brought isn't to your standard please call us on a number no one will answer you on or a email address that will never be looked at or send the product back at your own cost to us to be repaired because we don't have a dealer network"
@pyrogun18393 жыл бұрын
People who sell fraudulent products should go to prison for 10+ years. Completely evil and deceptive people.
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
These really are the worse of the worst too, changing plugs on some cars can take 4 hours+ only to find out your new 100k plugs last 3 months!
@pyrogun18393 жыл бұрын
@@SilverCymbal That'd be terrible. Or getting a crap timing belt that snaps and destroys your engine. All sorts of things could happen because these people are greedy.
@ranger1783 жыл бұрын
it is china that is the problem they encourage this outright theft of copyrights and they don't recognize any patents the whole country has the motto make it whatever way is cheapest
@jamesg8633 жыл бұрын
Amazon started doing more deals with Chinese companies after the pandemic. THAT is that biggest factor. They are responsible for the products put on their platform. Nike pulled the plug and refuses to sell on Amazon now, but theres millions of shoes you can buy there still. Counterfits galore. And Amazon doesn't care so long as it makes its profit.
@tyle65917 ай бұрын
us government let them do that they dont care
@drphibesrises4 жыл бұрын
This is the second video in 2 days I have watched showing fake parts from eBay and also Amazon. Thanks for posting.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, it's sad this is becoming a huge thing. The more people that know though will help stop it or at least discourage it. Thanks
@MrTheHillfolk4 жыл бұрын
Yea the other one I saw was the Ford guy regarding the spark plugs. I can't spell his screen name correctly but it says Ford tech make you loco .....this crap is getting out of hand
@Airwolf20304 жыл бұрын
MrHillfolk agreed and I saw that video too, it’s also a waste of materials for making fake products
@MrTheHillfolk4 жыл бұрын
@@Airwolf2030 Ii shook me up haha. I got some trw tie rod ends over the weekend from a reputable supplier, but the boxes differed slightly. Made me suspicious , could be nothing could be something. so I sent a couple pics off to trw hopefully I'll hear something soon.
@Airwolf20304 жыл бұрын
MrHillfolk okay and I hope it’s genuine/legit, my transmission mount is difficult to get so the only two places that has it is ebay and rockauto so I tried ebay and it’s a name brand aftermarket part which worked very well with my car
@frank09busa3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you posted this video my friend. I work at automotive parts company and its amazing how many people don't know the difference between OE, OEM and aftermarket parts, and now you have to worry about counterfeit parts as well. I hate to say this but, scammers are getting better and better at their job and even I'm having tough time recommending good and reliable parts to customers. cheers
@ctsfiddler4 жыл бұрын
Everything is faked today. I'm safe because i buy Fram filters. No one would copy them ha ha.
@socknetea4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4Wxe397i512fZo Skip to 4: 58 in that video, hes talking about Fram filters very informative
@donaldteal87204 жыл бұрын
The hell they can't. That one is a has been done.
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
Most if the net disinformation about Fram is just that. WM installs over one Million Fram filters every month. How many engines blown up and how many lawsuits?! Buy a better $$$ filter.
@ctsfiddler4 жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 Just a joke ,. i really use Fram.
@nightlightabcd4 жыл бұрын
@@ctsfiddler - I used to but I have seen the evidence and apparently, so has Fram, so now they have changed their filters for more quality! Turns out that Fram was putting more money into hype than their product!
@iFixJunk4 жыл бұрын
Little-known fact: it's MitsubOshi, with an O. (Not to be confused with Mitsubishi.) Mitsuboshi is a parts manufacturer in Asia, and they make a lot of rubber and plastic machine parts, including automotive / engine parts (for companies like Asin, Toyota, Yanmar, and others). GREAT VIDEO. From now on, all my stuff will come from the dealer.
@kamikazee30714 жыл бұрын
Marv thank you!!
@genesisoriginal41063 жыл бұрын
Yes this is correct
@ozturkebrahem3 жыл бұрын
Yes those belts are oem for nissan aisin they made in Japan and they produce high quality belts
@kaboom3624 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a German air compressor distributorship. The guy used to order complete aftermarket parts and lie to his customers. He would also have some of the original parts in stock. Not sure why he had them. Probably in case he got called out and had to prove that he was using. Original equipment
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Sad story but I think things like this go in all the time. Tough to find honesty as much these days.
@buckbuchhagen7264 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, you quit when you discovered your boss was a fraudster!
@kaboom3624 жыл бұрын
@@buckbuchhagen726 oh hell yeah. Zero tolerance for crap like that. As a matter of fact I ratted him out to his customers
@1clkvideos3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed comparison! Oh - and, Ill apologize now - because this comment is a long read - but it will be informative - it will have a recommendation - I have NO affiliation with Toyota Parts, etc. - I am simply telling my story! On my quest to replace the timing belt on my 2006 Tundra, I was initially lured by ‘Toyota’ kits online (including timing belt, water pump, gasket, pulleys - and some with the tensioner too) which were priced around $200 -$250. HOWEVER, this is a big job on my Tundra (especially since I also planned to replace Camshaft seals and much more) and I did not want to do it twice due to defective and/ or FAKE parts - so I read copious amounts of reviews on these kits - and, I saw a pattern of premature water pump failure emerging. Frankly, thats all it took for me to end any thought of buying the parts anywhere other than an authorized dealer. Here comes the fun: I contacted the Toyota dealer a few miles away and asked for a parts quote for my truck. I was quoted $181 for the water pump and gasket ALONE. I thought I could do better - called two more Houston, TX dealers - same price. It became easy to see why the ‘fake?’ kits are alluring without even having a price for the other parts. By the time I added the two timing belt pulleys, the timing belt, and the tensioner to the water pump (for comparison to the popular ‘fake?’ kits), I was looking at $600 for the parts listed as O.E. Toyota parts in the $249 online kits! Thats a big difference for most of us! Still, my search continued because I still wanted all of the innermost, critical parts (at least) to be real OE Toyota parts so as to hedge my bet on long term durability - especially since I was also in need of cam/crank seals, Serpentine belt & tensioner, fan pulley bracket, alternator, valve cover gaskets, spark plug tube seals, etc. As the parts bill was climbing, I decided that I could use Gates parts for the Serpentine belt and tensioner and an aftermarket supplier on the alternator because these are ‘outer’ parts which are much more easily addressed in the case of premature failure. But, for the rest of it - I wanted Toyota parts. Heres my referral: I found McGeorge Toyota online parts. I verified that they are actually a Toyota dealer in Henrico, Va. I priced out the same parts included in the popular $250 ‘fake?’ kits and it was $370. So, okay - it’s still more expensive - but, I am reasonably assured that I am getting the quality that I’m looking for in OE parts. Plus - $370 was a lot better than $600 at my local dealers ( which, by the way, I gave them an opportunity to compete - I even showed them the quote from McGeorge Toyota - and I was offered 10% off... still $540 vs $370). So, for the overall analysis- I paid $120 more than the $250 kits - and I’m fine with it because I believe that I have a greatly diminished chance of being one of those guys writing a scathing review about a water pump that failed after 9 months, one year, etc. Oh - something else - most of the parts I received from McGeorge were in the updated boxes that were shown in Silver Cymbals video. I hope this helps someone.
@southsurreybc4 жыл бұрын
I bought some Espar heater parts from an authorized Espar facility, was sold Chinese aftermarket parts for the same price as the German originals. I felt rippef off. Thanks for this video and spreading awareness.
@MikeinAustin4 жыл бұрын
I was in Hanoi Vietnam and they have mopeds and motorcycles everywhere. Like 100,000 on the roads all the time. I saw lots of people working on them too. They guy I was talking to said 95% of the parts are counterfeit in every store because they are so cheap. But the brake pads are destroyed after about 2,000 miles and just crumble apart. So they replace them often and have never known any different. The difference there is that when someone dies due to a malfunctioning part (sadly often) they can’t or don’t sue the manufacturer and they do different maintenance knowing they are crap. Imagine buying a new timing chain or brakes or whatever here and they fall apart on you because you don’t know they are fake? Counterfeiting a t-shirt or Rolex is one thing. Counterfeiting Brake pads is horrible. 如果可以骗 - scam if you can
@crazypete37593 жыл бұрын
I love how so much effort goes into stopping fake clothing and accessories but they dont seem to care about stopping fake auto parts. fake clothes wont kill people, fake auto parts could!
@Kat-mn6zi2 жыл бұрын
.......... and food!!??!!!
@Jmoney-db4rp Жыл бұрын
Mine says made in Thailand are they any good? For the oil filter
@jake-mv5oi11 ай бұрын
@@Jmoney-db4rp The oem filter cartridges I got from the dealer and from walmart says Thailand.
@raywalker89784 жыл бұрын
I learned something here. I never knew Ebay sold counterfeit parts marked as original.
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
eBay and Amazon, etc, are just hooking buyers to sellers for a commission. PayPal is your only assurance of help. Trouble is if a part fails 2 months later you are still stuck with doing it all over again.... Regardless of the finances.
@Biffo12624 жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 Absolutely. So many people knock PayPal but they always give you your money back. I have had ZERO problems with Paypal and now use use on every internet purchase where it is an option.
@donald68154 жыл бұрын
Ebay sells nothing. Ebay connects you with sellers, and you buy from them.
@donald68154 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that Ebay sells nothing. Everyone except red dog # dumb.
@OffGridInvestor4 жыл бұрын
The fake NGK spark plugs for hondas has been a major one. Even saw plugs for a ford V8 where the electrode coming from the thread side started to break off NEW still in the box.... hyundai has suffered this problem SO MUCH that they have a hologram on all their parts bags and their vehicle manuals say not to use parts not in the hologram packets. The hyundai/kia aftermarket parts are often fake as in THEY DON'T WORK. Like as in guys selling sensors that are just 2 wires with a resistor inside a block of plastic hanging on the end of the wires type fake. I recently saw a Kia Sedona that died because they used a cheap filter. It was probably full of newspaper or toilet paper and it DISINTEGRATED and a big clump of paper went into the oil pump and oil pressure dropped dramatically as it blocked and the engine nearly died. Started but was knocking like hell and basically at the end of its life, wouldn't get another 100 miles. JUST BECAUSE of a few bucks saved on ebay.
@jamiehancock93572 жыл бұрын
This makes me feel sick thinking I've been getting a great deal and all along getting ripped off. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
@normanrhone27914 жыл бұрын
Notice the 35 scammers who disliked this video.
@aaronbryan50954 жыл бұрын
104 dislikes now.
@tonycd27094 жыл бұрын
179 now
@nismo20704 жыл бұрын
Could be shop owners that use these parts and sell them as genuine. I worked for Advance auto in the 90's-2000's in upstate NY. The local GM dealership was buying front wheel hub bearings by the case (8). They were using them as warranty parts because the GM part was on backorder....
@paystyles54294 жыл бұрын
nismo2070 GM .... Now we see why Scotty Kilmer Jose Junkyard when he mentions of General Motors
@oldtwinsna83473 жыл бұрын
More like Amazon shareholders. Need to keep those sales up, even with fraud, let the rippoffs continue just to pump up the bottom line.
@jasonelizanigel93813 жыл бұрын
I bought "Honda" spark plugs from ebay in 2015. As an actual Honda Tech at the time, I was completely fooled and I legit thought they were real. Immediately after startup, it ran horribly and after a quick drive, the electrodes were completely gone from the plug. Never again. You think of fake handbags, shoes and clothes but you never suspect you could be buying fake auto parts.
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
Now that Iridum plugs can cost $20 at the dealer, these losers are putting copper or even worse metals in fake iridium plugs and there is no way to tell until your ignition burns out or has other problems. I don't buy any brand parts online due to this, The problem is 100x bigger than people realize.
@davidparker96764 жыл бұрын
Basically, don't buy from Chinese sellers on eBay or Amazon. There are cities in the US where the Chinese setup warehouses full of counterfeit goods. Do your homework and don't buy from any seller with a weird sounding business or user name. El Monte California and the surrounding areas are full of these scammers. There are others in other states as well. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
@chrisnotap3 жыл бұрын
The fake one also says "Belt Timing". The real one says "Belt V Ribbed" . Counterfeit stuff is everywhere! FYI: If you're still getting the noise after doing those pulleys it will most likely be the water pump. They make kind of a rough grinding noise.
@Liam-vh8bz Жыл бұрын
Timing belt is different from ribbed V-belt though
@josephfelice6013 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do this. It's only going to get worse now with the increase in porous boarders. In the music industry the largest dealer Music Tribe is produces all their items in China and they now only sell to Amazon and Sweetwater. Amazon is not interested in protecting their consumers.
@petebusch90693 жыл бұрын
I've stopped shopping on Ebay and ESPECIALLY Amazon, they act like they're trying to do something about it and are not, they are in on the scams and have been raking it in.
@sharkinstx4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I've bought a few Toyota and Lexus items on eBay, but mainly just accessories (floor mats, a truck bed mat, etc.), and only from Toyota or Lexus dealers that sell on eBay. There are also plenty of Toyota and Lexus dealers out there that sell directly online through their own Websites, many at deep discounts compared to buying parts over the counter, even when it's the same dealer. Always compare pricing, and watch shipping costs. Some dealers may charge a little less, but then charge higher shipping fees. Fill up your shopping cart on different sites and compare pricing and shipping, to find your best deal. Some eBay sellers will mislead while not being outright deceptive. Yesterday I ordered a pack of spark plugs for one of our daughters' cars, a 2014 Kia Forte sedan. Kia dealers selling online charge from $13 to $15 per plug (these are NGK platinum plugs with a 105,000 mile change interval), and plenty of eBay sellers out there sell four packs that appear to be NGK plugs in Hyundai/Mobis (Mobis is one of their parts brands) boxes. Right after I ordered the plugs (they were about $15 for four plugs; other sellers offer "Genuine Hyundai/Kia" spark plugs for around $30 for four), I noticed the word "unbranded" in the ad, even though the ad pictures were of NGK plugs with Hyundai/Mobis individual plug boxes and a Hyundai/Mobis four-pack box with a holographic label sealing one end. I suspect the pictures were simply lifted from another eBay ad. I contacted the seller and asked them directly about whether they were NGK parts in a Hyundai/Mobis box, or something else. They answered "It is the aftermarket product with good quality and it is the same as the picture". Well, not really the same as the picture, since they're not NGK plugs in a Hyundai/Mobis box. I asked them to cancel it, and fortunately they did. I also warned them not to run pictures of items that are different from what they're selling, as it's misleading.
@thezfunk4 жыл бұрын
I hope you left a negative review to warn others.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
I did. I reported them also.
@toninocars4 жыл бұрын
You can get refund too
@chemicalspore Жыл бұрын
sad that even car parts are counterfeit.
@toninocars4 жыл бұрын
That’s right man, straight to the point. Ebay is full of fake Toyota parts, really well packed, you can’t tell the difference. I buy from eBay but only from Toyota official store or well known dealerships outlets, not from private sellers or China. Btw Mitsuboshi are manufacturers of genuine belts and officials suppliers for many Japanese auto makers
@Psxmoe4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time you took to make the video! It's good to get this information out. But I noticed that you blurred out the sellers name that sold you the counterfeit parts? Why are we protecting counterfeit sellers identitys?
@briancnc4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out. I fixed a few appliances over the years with "oem" whirlpool parts from eBay over the years and swear they were crap quality. Makes me wonder if this is the same scam. (Very likely!)
@MrPrios14 жыл бұрын
BTW, I also bought some Chinese shocks prior. They were not listed as OEM but they were much cheaper. Bad mistake. They failed after 30 days. I had to open a dispute with my credit card to get my money back and I did get all the money back. That was why I ordered OEM the second time. Even that was bad because of the Fake OEM products. I researched back and found the seller was listed in China not the US as they advertised. Make sure your seller has a USA address and long history of business.
@sarahdell40424 жыл бұрын
Thanks for shining some light on this. It’s been going on for years!
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Sadly this video really needed to be made. But worse is how big this problem has become.
@missiontent1114 жыл бұрын
I retired from being a mechanic some fifteen years ago ..... but even then we noticed something odd. Girling and Lockbeed parts arriving from our local brake supplier would come in appropriate boxes with their company logos ....but the parts themselves did not seem to be quite as nicely made as those we had been used to. Attempting to bleed the rear brakes on a Ford Fiesta, one afternoon, we discovered a new Girling wheel cylinder had a rubber seal missing !! We never investigated the growing problem because we changed over to 24 hour recovery ( towing) but either these parts were made 'under licence' without sufficient quality control ..... or they were fakes slipped into the supply chain at some point. Another thought: A new 7.5 tonne recovery vehicle we bought came on Continental tyres. Those original tyres lasted nearly 4 years. New Continental tyres fitted by a local tyre bay lasted barely eighteen months. Were these really made by Continental. ......? I don't know.
@LaserJet584 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Always the auto dealers parts are (supposed to be) original. But in the other hand, extremely over price, specially in the USA. We are victims of fake parts in one hand. And victims of greed by car dealers. One way or the other we always get rep off!
@ubewood4993 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm in Asia. You have been completely honest.
@infidelzombie93824 жыл бұрын
Stealerships mark up their parts heavily. NAPA has never done me wrong from brakes to bearings to engine parts you can't beat the quality and almost always way cheaper than the dealers
@flight2k54 жыл бұрын
They actually don’t mark up prices. Tune up parts from Toyota are comparable in price to Napa.
@s996144 жыл бұрын
NAPA parts aren't as good (in relative terms) as they used to be.
@HristovRumen4 жыл бұрын
@Norm T get your head out of your ass. You're probably selling fake original parts yourself! You can't employ fake advertising for turning full profit and argue that it's okay. It's not! It's fraud!
@paystyles54294 жыл бұрын
Rumen Hristov ✔️✔️✔️💯💯💯😂
@mobilemcsmarty14663 жыл бұрын
@Norm T you have a good point, but the trouble for me is the lies on the outside. I'm fine with a part that says "Toyota-like," "Better than Toyota," "almost-Toyota," or "Toyoyota" :D let the reputation of your after-market part speak for itself on its own brand. lies on the outside tell me that there are lies on the inside B)
@whodat1054 жыл бұрын
That's why I started only getting online parts from rockauto. eBay is full of cheap and scam products.
@OffGridInvestor4 жыл бұрын
Except there's several cases of people getting fakes on rock auto including a guy in the comments section here.
@whodat1054 жыл бұрын
Probably ordered the cheapest option for the part.i stay in the mid-range options and haven't had a problem yet.
@HristovRumen4 жыл бұрын
Rockauto is the worst offender for junk parts
@halohunter52174 жыл бұрын
@1dueceon9er wtf is a "steering belt"?
@mezo64534 жыл бұрын
halo hunter he meant a power steering belt
@romanc.507419 күн бұрын
The stealerships take you to the cleaner too. That is the problem.
@kove4 жыл бұрын
Ran in the garage and checked my oil filters, no apparent made in China sticker, but a lot harder to tell by the filter it self w/o cutting open. 🤔
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Very true, I buy a lot of oem filters. I will only be buying them if it ships from a dealer from now on. Toyota released some testing videos that showed the clone ones don't even stop 1/2 of the material. If you want Fram, Wix, etc. those are fine but faking brands is just bad news,
@njsongwriter2 жыл бұрын
@@SilverCymbal How do you know that WIX isn't being counterfeited? Denso and NGK are commonly counterfeited.
@vjjvbvjjvb95594 жыл бұрын
It is a good source of information. Today I was told by my friend who is a Toyota mechanic. He told me you can tell a Genuine Toyota parts has a very small round sticker on the package. It is about 1/4" size. Now I encountered your video.
@seanwieland97633 жыл бұрын
Those counterfeit NGK spark plugs are a nightmare to avoid, even on Amazon not just eBay.
@quarthmeat18843 жыл бұрын
How is the led ring on the inside of your gauge cluster white at 0:22? I've got a 2012 is350, and it, as well as all other 2is250s/350s that I've seen have a blue ring on the inside of the gauge cluster, however the ring on your is250 appears to be white. Did you swap it out with something, did it come factory with a white led, or is it just the lighting/ camera or something like that? I much prefer the look of the white ring instead of the blue.The needles also look different than the OEM needles...
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
Its a 2010, I didn't change that for sure, the original owner was an older lady and doubtful she did either. I have always know these to be white but maybe its just this model year.
@stevewilson78574 жыл бұрын
Original Chevy parts will break just as fast as fake parts :))
@isaaccastro58664 жыл бұрын
Steve Wilson not in trucks
@antikoolaid98914 жыл бұрын
True
@davidparker96764 жыл бұрын
The fakes are actually upgrades in the case of GM parts.
@halohunter52174 жыл бұрын
Whatever... At least I can still get dealer parts for 25+ year old GM vehicles. Have fun doing that with Japanese brands.
@slingbart7054 жыл бұрын
@@halohunter5217 True, but only because they sell 1,000,000+ trucks per year Chevy/GMC to a Japan 10-20,000 in any mass produced model? and a truck is a real tool.
@MkdMuzza3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the font of the part number and part description on the label of the counterfeits, I knew they were fake. You can see the font/text is thinner and slightly different than on the genuine labels. I buy a lot of Toyota/Lexus parts for my cars as I do all the maintenance/repairs myself, and I know a genuine part when I see one. So glad you’ve made the video for everyone to be aware of. I can’t stand fake parts online. It can be hard to tell, especially when they show pictures of actual genuine items.
@Ron-ds2ob4 жыл бұрын
Watched a video yesterday on fake Ford parts. It seems that unless you buy right from the dealer, you don't really know if it's real.
@volvo094 жыл бұрын
Yeah get parts you want as OEM from a dealer or TRUSTED source, or study how the packaging should be if it's a discontinued part or common item. I love ebay but I wouldn't jump to buying oem auto parts from there. Same with amazon, but at least amazon returns are easier.
@canadacatalyst4 жыл бұрын
Ford takes to court any copy cat parts so aftermarket makers must change slightly!
@volvo094 жыл бұрын
@@canadacatalyst doesn't matter how slightly or massively a box / part is changed for copyright reasons, if the automakers brand is on the part or box it's court material. Just changing a font or paint color doesn't bypass the legal protection an automaker has.
@combatvolta4 жыл бұрын
Or you go to the dealer or you go to Pepboys,AutoZone, O'Reilly's,Rockauto.com.No eBay no Amazon I leave learned the lesson today!!
@TheXboxSux3 жыл бұрын
Even dealers pull shithead shinanginas. Moral of the story is we're consumers trying to navigate a shithead minefield called life. One wrong step and you're getting shit on.
@netmagi3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I always buy filters for my Tacoma and my wife's Highlander on Amazon. Went back through my purchase history and the seller was "Daytona Toyota". They give their address, and it matches up with a real physical dealer, so I think I'm ok, but what a wake up call. Now I'm wondering if maybe I should quit complaining about the switch to the filters where you change just the element and re-use the can. At least you can see what you're putting in there. . .
@fillupread4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.. Its a shame and China is behind every bit of it. One good source for online parts at amazing prices is Sparks Toyota out of Myrtle Beach SC. They have an Ebay store and seem to beat everyone else price wise.
@timthompson82974 жыл бұрын
People selling fake parts are crooks and should go to prison like any other criminal.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
100% agree, they get away with it since the parts fail down the line
@TheZigZiggy4 жыл бұрын
I saw immediately where the belt was stamped MITSUBOSHI instead of MITSUBISHI. China companies are infamous for making a very slight change in the spelling, hoping no-one notices. Look closely, you'll find it everywhere.
@vwbeaner4 жыл бұрын
FYI, Mitsuboshi is a legit belt maker though.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
@@vwbeaner Yes they are and they have made belts for Toyota, but not this one. It's a phony on both counts. This was some feedback from someone on Amazon who bought one of these "oem" Toyota belts AMAZON REVIEW: The package box look pretty good which made me pretty excited at the beginning when opening the package. The web image showed the belt is "Made in Japan", someone also confirmed it is made in Japan and this is the sole reason why I placed my order for my car. But when I received it, the printing on the belt showed it was "Made in U.S.". To me the manufacturing quality is inferior because two very obvious joints can be seen on the teeth side. The two adjacent teeth looked very differently from all other teen because of different material is used with these two teeth. Also portion of the belt showed some part of the internal material which is reddish along the belt edge while other part are fully covered with black material. The belt does not look clean on both sides as well. It is not greasy so the marks or dust from the belt can be cleaned by the buyer easily but that may make buyer feel it is not well treated at the production. Great Amazon service and no hassle return and refund! I love it.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
@@vwbeaner Even worse, can you imagine installing a true timing belt only to find out it's a cheap copy that could fail in 50k miles. Its not fair since you would have no one to sue and blame the manufacturer. Makes you wonder how many issues came from problems like this. The belt I replaced that was super loud had no markings at all. I wondered if it was original.
@vwbeaner4 жыл бұрын
Silver Cymbal I was just implying that it wasn’t misspelled by accident. They are an actual company too. I’m glad you got your money back on the bad parts.
@lordjaashin4 жыл бұрын
mitsuboshi is a legit oem company that supplies oem parts to major Japanese car companies
@abhitchc11063 жыл бұрын
I know this, it will probably be lost in the many comments here, but a very good friend of mine, and actually neighbor, purchase one of these complete OEM timing belt kit off of eBay for his Honda pilot. The parts were installed by a professional mechanic, and everything look good. After two months of driving, the belt snapped, and completely destroyed his engine. Upon breaking the engine down, we found the culprit was a fake Chinese timing belt. A terrible and expensive lesson to learn for everyone involved.
@avanjob2054 жыл бұрын
You should have shown the seller so people will know not to buy from there. By blocking it , you have allowed them to continue their dishonest practice that will harm others .
@Adub4084 жыл бұрын
This is why i get the cheapest one listed on ebay. I figure if they are all fakes might as well get it as cheap as possible.
@algertcorbaxhi26984 жыл бұрын
You are 100%right. found that out when i needed a wheel bearing. Beautiful oem box bit the part looked like it was polished with a sand blaster. I ran to the dealer and saw the real difference. From that day even oil and filter are getting purchased at the dealership. Thanks great video.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, imagine all that work too changing the bearing out then it fails 6 months later. It's really a double ripoff to us, time and money!
@texxitexxi3 жыл бұрын
I buy my parts from an online retailer, so they are a company with customer service, warranty and a reputation to lose. You don't necessarily need OEM parts. There are quality manufactures in France or Germany. That is more economical. Plus for example, Continental uses High-Tech Rubber, so you can actually upgrade your car while saving money. Happy repairing.
@Oo-IIII-oO4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and those who think that servicing their car at the dealership are getting original OEM parts need to wake up. Not all dealers use Genuine OEM parts when they service the cars they sell. Something to think about
@korky77754 жыл бұрын
I worked for BMW and i can only agree with you....
@jaybosher61444 жыл бұрын
Thats scary
@martinschulz93813 жыл бұрын
Right on. Don't buy parts on the internet. Buy from the dealership or a reputable parts store. An inferior belt breaking before its time can ruin your engine. (No savings)
@davidjoe84554 жыл бұрын
Great great video. I've never bought anything from Ebay as I can tell they sell trashes. But now you make me question all Toyota Genuine parts I've been purchasing from Amazon for years.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
You and me both I am 99% sure most of what I have ordered was not genuine. This isn't a matter of the same part. Platinum plugs are copper inside, filters are less restrictive. For me I am moving to only buying from real dealers online to get a discount but not get junk parts. There is also a similar video on Fords right now, the problem is just as bad. Bad news for all of us, but at least you can be educated for future purchases.
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
I've only gotten one bad thing off eBay. But I never buy car repair parts there. I had returns problems with rockauto so I buy local. At least I can get in their face if necessary.
@bluesky-ud9wg3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Toyota Master Diagnostic Tech and you're vid is very important. I cannot tell you how many people come in with so called OEM parts and they have an issue with them.
@jimhill65864 жыл бұрын
I closed my ebay account last year. Too many problems, this was one.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Might have been the best choice yet, the more I look the more lies I see there
@pro-horsepunter55544 жыл бұрын
Best move ever
@alteredaltitude4 жыл бұрын
I did as well
@jonphanspromotions4 жыл бұрын
now with taxes. I have stopped using ebay for about two years.
@mtadams20093 жыл бұрын
I would only purchase things on ebay as a last resort. I never really liked anything I ever purchased from them. I know some people like it but I prefer good quality price is second.
@hardtyme33 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the warning about Amazon too, avoid the third party sellers!
@heinzkitzvelvet4 жыл бұрын
It's everywhere. Not just car parts. I bought an Orbit garden hose timer from eBay. Picture looked legit. Paid full retail. Got a $2 knockoff. Complained to the seller and threatened action against them. They refunded me in full and I still have the POS thing. A lot of times, you can get your money back, but you gotta go after them pretty hard.
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
Using PayPal is a plus.
@heinzkitzvelvet4 жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 I've never had PayPal refund me. It's always been either the seller, or eBay. Unless it was PayPal in the background and I didn't know it. It seemed like it was always eBay I had to file complaints with.
@heinzkitzvelvet4 жыл бұрын
@@bloodybones63 Years ago they were good. Then. Soros took a massive stake in them, now they're trash.
@scorpio67793 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish I’ve known that before I brought my 02 sensors. But also the problem lies with the online vendors like eBay and Amazon they should check and make sure those are original quality parts OEM parts if not OEM at least not fake knock offs. Like you say ,from now on strictly from a dealer.
@wayneharvey66264 жыл бұрын
Third party retailers from Amazon are also a big problem. We received parts that were found to be made buy a fraudulent company which looked to be the original manufacturing company logo and packaging. We immediately found the parts were very substandard because they did not fit and used plastic instead of the advertised materals when assembled. But confirmed this when we contacted the real company who had no idea this was happening and was able to sold us the real parts directly and at a better price. No more Amazon for us.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
The scary part is that the same thing goes on with lots of other products too. Buying over the counter meds seems harmless, except are they genuine? Who knows, scary stuff
@HuckBowlt4 жыл бұрын
Contrary to what many people believe there is no mystical place that sells OEM parts for less than dealership prices most manufacturers protect their dealers from such practices .
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
@@HuckBowlt You are 1000% right. They want to create the mystery that manufacturers are unloading excess parts, all of that is false. It is true that sometimes parts can be bought overseas for less but this is not common at all in the auto parts world but the scammers try to make it like they got a secret stash which just is not true.
@Currancchs4 жыл бұрын
I had this issue with Amazon when purchasing iridium plugs for a RX350. Parts looked identical, but small differences (e.g. color of the writing on the plug and mixed orientation of plugs in boxes) gave it away. Wound up going to the local Toyota dealer instead and paid a bit more for the security of knowing (hoping?) the plugs would not be fakes. Would have been unfortunate to install the counterfeits and then have to redo the job when/if the fakes failed, especially since the rear plugs require cowl and intake manifold removal to access...
@900Yugo4 жыл бұрын
@@Currancchs The original plugs are made by Denso and NGK. Both of them are original suppliers for that vehicle. Buy them direct from the manufacturer.
@Nissan350z334 жыл бұрын
G'day to you from Australia, Thank-you for your video, I have been aware of fake spare parts. I HAVE to use NGK spark plugs on my Nissan 350z and 300ZX. Fakes are all over the net. So I am prepared to pay a premium and order my ngk's from a popular local auto shop.. I hope you get a massive audience, once again thanks for bringing the subject up.. Cheers from Oz.
@JnC4453 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video, unfortunately it is a year too late for a buddy of mine, he bought a timing belt kit that was said to be OEM for his 2010 honda odyssey off of ebay, had it installed only to have the timing belt break after 20k miles. Needless to say he needs a new engine now, you live and learn; I sure hope that there is a special place in hell for these sellers.
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that These are the stories that people need to hear. We are getting scammed so badly and the damage is real. Sadly you will see comments from people that think it's just fine and who cares. What happened to you is reality. I hope they all get busted and rot too for hat they are doing to us.
@rayjackson68083 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most informative, and very important videos on youtube. Thanks. I also found your video about water softeners very helpful.
@Pallidus_Rider4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I don't know how many parts I've bought on Amazon and eBay that were supposed to be original OEM. Now, I'm worried and scared, as safety is an issue.
@Born_Stellar4 жыл бұрын
If the OEM part was more than 2x more expensive than the ebay one, its a fake.
@Pallidus_Rider4 жыл бұрын
@@Born_Stellar Not a good method. What if both are around the same price? How about I sell you non-OEM ones at OEM price. 🤓
@Project_EG29 ай бұрын
I bought a fake 5 pack of “Toyota” oil filters and they caused my low oil pressure light to come on. The filter media inside the metal pod came loose and blocked oil flow. Damn near blew up my engine
@enzoperruccio4 жыл бұрын
The real problem here is not selling aftermarket parts, it's actually lying to your customers and overcharging them.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Aftermarket is fine. Fake market is absolutely fraud
@MikheilGhvinianidze3 жыл бұрын
I member I went to NYC dealer and got the prices for parts, than I want on eBay, and found dealer from Long Island (like 30 miles away) was selling same parts at 50% lower price. What gives?
@georgepagonis85164 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. We can only blame ourselves for sending all of our manufacturing and technology to China. We helped them become the masters of counterfeits. If anything, let's hope this current crisis brings all the production and jobs back to the USA.
@DanSanniti8 ай бұрын
God damn, that's a powerful comment
@lamarc26344 жыл бұрын
Great video, I got fake spark plugs (purchased online) & they didn't last long. I now buy my parts from a reputable source.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
That's the worst, some plugs now take 2-3 hours to change since they are done so rarely The last thing you need is platinum spark plugs that are actually using a carrot inside as a conductor!
@kenamaro4 жыл бұрын
If it seems like a great deal....it’s probably a knock off....pay a few bucks more to buy from a reputable seller...you can also contact the manufacturer to report counterfeit parts......
@bradcarter81742 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got duped too!! Order from a reputable dealer, you won't get shafted. Thanks for posting!
@Kaffarov974 жыл бұрын
I know there are some legit sellers on eBay and Amazon but I just can't risk it anymore after getting so many "genuine" parts that are obviously fake.
@mikekusnierz66713 жыл бұрын
Happen to me a year ago. Bought AC Delco plugs off of eBay and installed them in my Impala. They lasted 15 miles and the car started misfiring badly. Limped the car home and removed the plugs. The center electrodes were disintegrated and I was surprised I made it home. Put the old plugs back in and ran OK with no engine damage. I learned my lesson.
@christopherwalsh29573 жыл бұрын
The fake serpentine belt, has “belt, timing” written on the tag, id say that’s a clue.
@keithw49203 жыл бұрын
Actually, that is the way many stock items are written in the military (e.g. polish, shoe or canteen, water)and logistics world. That alone is not a give-away.
@thebeetalls3 жыл бұрын
@@keithw4920 The clue is IT ISN'T A TIMING BELT.
@keithw49203 жыл бұрын
@@thebeetalls AH, got it.
@christopherwalsh29573 жыл бұрын
@@keithw4920 hm, good to know, thanks
@alvarolopes57684 жыл бұрын
Actually this is just sad. I mostly get aftermarket parts for my cars, from brands that I've been using for years. Some more specific parts that only original standards get the job done, I buy them from the dealership. There is so much crap online that you be better buy off some aftermarket parts, from real brands with testing and quality facilities, than some counterfeit chinese that dont even try to be close or meet the original manufacturer standards, all these counterfeit parts do is trying to match visually with original parts and also trying not to break upon installation, nothing more... Nice to see someone actually showing off this problem! Keep going ma man!
@boringlyfactual63684 жыл бұрын
No need to feel ripped off. Simply dispute the credit card charge and put the burden of proof on the manufacturer/seller.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Yes that was fine for me. Sadly many others never realize it until the cheap parts fail prematurely after the return policy or dispute period ends.
@gojoeyr4 жыл бұрын
@@SilverCymbal EXACTLY What they are betting on..and winning
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
Hassel and TIME.
@chatrkat3 жыл бұрын
Excellent information. Thank you for researching this problem. Probably explains why my new “Toyota” radiator cap didn’t hold pressure. End up buying another again.
@hotshot82074 жыл бұрын
amazon is another one selling fake OEM parts btw
@WilfredCruz10 ай бұрын
This is harder now. There are many companies posing as dealerships. Repacking after-market parts in OEM boxes. If you buy online, get a dealership receipt.
@steveo41413 жыл бұрын
You can't assume that just because it says "Genuine" when u buy Online.... remember you get what you pay for.....people need to stop being cheap and buy from the manufacturer through the dealer.
@psylee86873 жыл бұрын
Right, when you go to the dealer you won't get ripped off according to this guy haha
@steveo41413 жыл бұрын
@@psylee8687 no doubt u will pay more...but it will be the right part ..it will fit and it will last. ...not like the piece of shit ya get on Ebay where u save a couple of bucks and its defective/ broken/ doesn't fit etc etc.
@billdougan40224 жыл бұрын
Now I feel uneasy. I installed eBay genuine Toyota parts, the same one's on your video 6 months ago. I'll keep an eye on them. Great video.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was like too. Then I confirmed they were fakes. Not much to worrry about other than just be alert for new purchased items. Terrible thing they have done to all of us
@joer4814 жыл бұрын
I hate crappy parts. Thanks for the tips!
@AdamAve933 жыл бұрын
This is why I use only Amsoil filters and oil straight from their website. Even some of my advanced auto parts stores carry it if I need it sooner.
@nomebear4 жыл бұрын
My friend's plane crashed because of a fake part. He survived, but at a price to his well being.
@dougowens85264 жыл бұрын
You are right it a huge problem i had the same issue with a honda transmission filter I sent it right back , Its amazing how many dealers are now selling on ebay
@supersabrosinho4 жыл бұрын
I got ripped off. Ordered 12 pack of purolators but they say pure-lators and they're as thin and lightweight as soda cans
@TheDerrty1114 жыл бұрын
Hahaha hell yeah! Buy Wix filters next time
@chrisswin89763 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks a lot good video. I wish KZbin was as transparent. Leg cramps so much junk down my throat chunky commercials junkie videos it's really nice to see a good video.
@SilverCymbal3 жыл бұрын
Im starting to see that too every channel is owned or run by someone calling the shots. I have sponsored videos, but they only make up about 10% of my channel. This video is just me getting pissed off about losers ripping us all off.
@grassyfieldz45784 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is how these sellers can get away with it? I thought selling fake counterfeit parts was illegal aren't they afraid of getting sued?
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Most will never get caught. You buy the parts put them in and no one notices, if it fails or wears out early. It just seems like bad luck. They have it made with this scam.
@TheXboxSux3 жыл бұрын
LOL NO ONE is going to hold anyone in china accountable and they're the majority of sellers on ebait and amazoink.
@JD-hy6yc3 жыл бұрын
I went to the dealership for an oil filter and drain plug gasket for a 2UZ-FE. I paid $7. The gasket was $2 which I was kinda tripping over but $5 for OEM filter is good.
@timocallaghan44083 жыл бұрын
Classic rule.. if it's too good to be true, its usually not true
@Heizenberg.3 жыл бұрын
That is a faithful machine. I own an IS300 version of this generation. The problems of IS series are well known and easily fixable so it is worth investing in by getting oem parts.
@braziluluwita82684 жыл бұрын
Cheers matey for an extremely valuable clip.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Heizenberg.3 жыл бұрын
Same thing was about to happen to me when I was changing the pcv valve on my IS. The store gave me the part in a flawless package with correct part number and "made in japan" imprint. Folks, it was a plastic valve! I mean really plastic! Thank GOD I made some research before heading to store. Fake parts are everywhere not only on-line.
@jaroslawtheoneandonly.18034 жыл бұрын
Good catch! Pay a little more up front, but In long run you saved yourself thousands in repairs.
@justhere47214 жыл бұрын
Those look like refurbished pulleys and a slightly used belt. Especially the pulleys with the pitted metal.
@oldschool8234 жыл бұрын
counterfeit parts, is like printing money.
@SilverCymbal4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@Hewitt-tech3 жыл бұрын
Been preaching this for many years! Nice video comparison.
@rocky72324 жыл бұрын
Bought some brake pads from Toyota dealer on E-bay. Got aftermarket pads in a Toyota box. Very disappointed!
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to my buddy 2 weeks ago AT THE DEALERSHIP., They tried to install cheap pads they said we're genuine KIA, but he caught them. If I named the dealership, everyone would recognize the world famous person's name immediately. Faakeers
@smokestack97954 жыл бұрын
Nothing should surprise us as consumers anymore. I needed rear calipers for my 2007 4runner, went to my local toyota dealer, he said they don’t carry rear calipers in stock, I asked him about ordering some, he told me they don’t order them, they call NAPA down the street and order remanufactured ones and install them....😳 So that’s what I did, went to overpriced NAPA bought remanufactured rear calipers.
@smokestack97954 жыл бұрын
Rocky .....go to Rockauto and buy Advics, they are OEM and inexpensive.