Batman: The Rise and Fall of the Batmen Omnibus Overview

Checking out Batman: The Rise and Fall of the Batman Omnibus by James Tynion IV!

[@Joenah5]

I was a bit worried when I saw that his story from the Robin 80th special wasn't in the solicitation, so I'm really happy to see it there. This run is probably my favorite Batman run post-flashpoint, so I'm stoked to get it!

[@silverkyle]

I can't wait to check it out!

[@luisperez4206]

I personally never get that affected by gutter lost, I've been reading the Scott Snyders Omnibuses which I heard are some of the worst with this issue and it doesn't bother me at all, and I can still read and enjoy the art. Great video and excited to get this Omni at some point.

[@DrakonR]

Woah. Randomly came across your channel. Great to see a Canadian reviewer. Keep up the great work.

[@silverkyle]

Well thank you Kyle! A fellow Canadian AND a fellow Kyle!

[@inopaulvillacastin752]

Thanks for the vid! I think this is the 1st vid i saw that reviews this since i don't know much about this run so thank you! Just subscribed too!

[@silverkyle]

Yeah I think I'm one of the luckier ones that got this early, and no one else is has uploaded an overview of it yet. Worked put in my favour 😊

[@Iam123-i5j]

Since DC is pumping out Rebirth omnibuses, hows about that flash by Josh williamson omni

[@lazuruswolf6668]

We’re getting the Waid Flash Omni soon so I think when that’s done then we get the Williamson Omni.

[@Iam123-i5j]

@@lazuruswolf6668 I already have those collected.

[@TheComicBookReport]

Beautiful book

[@ashleyn1979]

You would think by now we would have perfect binding. Considering as well the omni market can bring in a lot of money if they get it right.

[@silverkyle]

Yeah I just don't understand how DC constantly seems to disappoint in that area. I mean, it is a big book, but I feel like if Marvel can do a better job with a book thay size, it should be easy enough for DC to duplicate that.

[@lloydwong7852]

You answered your own question about printing. If you look at the dustjacket right below the barcode it says that the book is printed and bound in Canada. I was seriously debating getting this omnibus along with the Tomasi Superman, but if I understand correctly the 4 volume deluxe hardcovers collect most of the material with the exception of a sidestory that isn't integral to the main story. It's almost like DC is using printers in Canada for all of their collections. I recently bought the Geoff Johns Teen Titans omni, which should be out of print in the US, but seems to be evergreen in Canada. I'm guessing you got yours though Indigo during a sale. Not complaining about the DC collections but I feel like with all the chaos going on over there we might see a real slowdown in collections in the future.

[@silverkyle]

Yeah I ended up ordering the majority of my omnis from the b2g1f Indigo sale. You end up waiting a little longer for some of the Marvel books, but DC comes earlier so it kind of works out. And yeah, the Deluxe editions do the trick if you're just looking for oversized hardcovers.

[@gimmeehands1]

What is gutter loss? I’m sorry if this is a dumb question but I’m new to omnibus’s but I am in love with them now! Thank you for your vids!

[@silverkyle]

Only way to find out is to ask, and I love answering questions like this! So gutter loss is when you have a thick book like an omnibus, which has the binding too tight, and doesn't allow the pages to be fully seen when you open the book. In the middle of the book, the two pages will be too close together.

[@gimmeehands1]

@@silverkyle thank you!!! I really appreciate you taking the time to answer that for me!

[@silverkyle]

@@gimmeehands1 any time!

[@rj-yr4ql]

Ohhh...so that's the reason why they stopped producing Deluxe Hardcovers for the Tynion run of Detective comics....

[@silverkyle]

Well they made up to 4 Deluxe books which is what this Omnibus is.

[@johnnieriot13]

Damn how did you get this? I’ve been waiting for this to come out for forever feels like

[@silverkyle]

Canada ends up getting the book a few weeks earlier because they print the books here. I think it comes out the 1st or 2nd week of January for the States.

[@RedRightStrawHat]

Frost on YT nice vid I was waiting for this but honestly the binding kills it I might just get the OHCs I really am leaning away from most omnis now because of the terrible binding

[@silverkyle]

I can tell you that the Deluxe editions are by far the better route to go when I looked at them both.

[@Pollitoychicken]

I officially know what I want for Christmas now. Where did you get it and how much was it?

[@silverkyle]

I ordered it from Indigo.ca as I'm in Canada, I think I paid about $105 for it since it was during a B1G1F sale. It's normally like $190 in Canada plus tax so I would maybe wait for a sale?

[@darkphoenix474]

At least it’s bound and not glued...

[@silverkyle]

Dear God... could you imagine if it was JUST glue... a near 1300 page book with only glue... the horror...😳

[@benportzer]

I feel like this is a book that needs to be read through once or twice for it the open up better, it looked nice in the Near Mint Condition overview so Idk

[@silverkyle]

I have actually stretched it out quite a bit more, and it is much better now!

[@benportzer]

@@silverkyle ok that's good to know

[@MrBroDash]

Being a canadian myself I was wondering where you buy most of your books from?

[@silverkyle]

Indigo and Amazon are the two main places I order them from, but I tend to wait for sales on them.

[@ashleyn1979]

1st Comment EVERRRR !!!!...... nice Review! Was waiting for this!

[@eabaggins]

Is the story emotional and sad (important character dies?) Or is it more fun? Whats the ending like?

[@teflonrobg]

That gutter loss is atrocious. Doesn't DC have a quality control dept to oversee that kind of mess-ups?

[@silverkyle]

Apparently not, they allowed Batman by Snyder to be made...

[@uglystrawberry]

just ordered it - cant wait

[@bionicbobt]

As a fellow Canuck, just curious who did you order your Omnibus through, as the price you got it for is fantastic!!!

[@scottstewart8316]

Wondering that as well. That’s a great price.

[@silverkyle]

Indigo.ca during a b2g1f sale!

[@scottstewart8316]

silverkyle that’s what I figured. That’s where I get mine too.

[@bionicbobt]

@@silverkyle cool! Yeah, I get most of mine through Amazon Canada. I thought maybe you knew of a Discount Graphic Novel dealer.... I know there are a few in the U.S., but once you add on Shipping & Import, it is usually more expensive than from Indigo or Amazon. ...oh! and solid review btw :)

[@Puddin_Tame]

Thanks for posting. Omnibus vs Deluxe Editions: That is the question. Are there any stories/issues in the omnibus which are not included in the Deluxe Editions or vice versa?

[@Joenah5]

Yes, the Omnibus has Tynion's stories for both the Robin 80th anniversary (which is like a prologue to the run) as well as his story from Detective Comics 1000. It also collects the Night of the Monster Men Batfamily crossover, which was not a part of the Detective Comics Deluxes.

[@gimmeehands1]

And how about price? Is it cheaper to get them all at once in the omnibus?

[@jesseslone87]

Might be a dumb question. But Is this all of Rebirth? like the trades or is this only Trynions stuff

[@silverkyle]

It is all of Tynion's run, which I think is all of Rebirth... as it would be the first 4 deluxe editions of the Rebirth hardcovers

[@richardklikspaan811]

Thank you for the overview.. i wanted to ask you something. Did they use the same paper for the Omnibus as they used for the Deluxe Edition? Is the paper in the Omnibus less glossy? Or is it the same like in the Deluxe Edition?

[@silverkyle]

I'll have to check tomorrow when I can compare them!

[@richardklikspaan811]

@@silverkyle ok could you let me know asap? Bcuz im still hesitating whether to buy the Omnibus or not.

[@silverkyle]

@@richardklikspaan811 I wont be home until tomorrow night, I could let you know then.

[@richardklikspaan811]

@@silverkyle Thnxx that would be great. Im still hesitating wheteher to buy the Deluxe Edition or Omnibus. Im waiting for your reply ✌️

[@paulylopes6762]

I’m also wondering the same thing as well!

[@sugarray6250]

Still waiting on my Paul Dini Batman omnibus 😒

[@silverkyle]

Yeah they somehow really messed that up... 😔

[@derrickmatthews4215]

195 in canada?! JEEEESUS

[@silverkyle]

Haha yeaaaaaah we get screwed over for pricing here. I only paid $105 for it though.

[@irfankhan0122]

Where did you buy the book.

[@silverkyle]

Indigo.ca!

[@Aled.Likes.Comics]

DC should just give up on the massive omnis

[@silverkyle]

Or work on doing a better job with their binding... either way they gotta do something

[@gab7809]

where do you buy them in canada ?

[@silverkyle]

Indigo.ca!

[@gab7809]

@@silverkyle thanks

[@Falcon364]

For a $150 book dc really needs to do better

[@t2comicbooksoverviews251]

dc have no idea how to make a omnibus with a good spine,always the mousetraps this is why i dont buy dc omnis,that thight binding will destroy the spine after awhile, most of my dc omnis is in bad shap because of it. sticking with marvel omnis for me

[@silverkyle]

I hear you. Marvel is so much better when it comes to creating Omnis. You'd think DC would have caugut up by now.

[@t2comicbooksoverviews251]

@@silverkyle they clearly don't care much about the quality they giving us,well if they dont care enough to give us good quality books,they wont get any money from me

[@YoSahop]

$150... 😞

[@silverkyle]

I hear you... but if you're in the States check instocktrades and other online places that sell omnis for cheap! Even Amazon has sales sometimes on them.

[@YoSahop]

@@silverkyle my dawg