sim hub "shake it" v6.8 tactile feedback bass shaker effect tutorial 2019 sim racing

[@jorge_781]

Simhub is really a piece of art for simracers. Plase support the guy and donate.

[@2Old4Forza]

Absolutely I am just scratching the surface with shake it

[@joshlepley3725]

Not good for shakers

[@dauntae24]

Agreed. I’m new to sim racing and after my first day using SimHub to setup my five buttkickers I happily donated.

[@hadamana]

This is by far the most informative and straightforward video I have been able to find on this topic. As such, I wanted to thank you for taking the time to put this information out there in a relatively clear and concise manner. You rock, and thanks bunches, Sir! Now, I get to go home and figure out if my Denon AVR-3808ci will function properly as an amp for a set of small shakers, so I can get more going than the current [singular] Buttkicker 2 Gamer that I have bolted under my BMW seat. Joy!

[@2Old4Forza]

means a lot, thank you!

[@trentfowler2888]

I want to dip in here and say that I have a NAD 711AV that would not drive Dayton TT25 shakers from the rear channel for some reason (I assume OHM mismatch?). I poured over docs but never found out why. Fortunately I happen to have a monster Marantz SR6003 with a dead HDMI stage that my brother didn't want so I used it and the 7.1 joy that comes with. It is insanely overkill although I have six shakers now but only four deployed.

[@andytaylor1]

Ive spent 2 days trying to understand how this all works and what to buy on RD forums/////one video from you and it all suddenly makes sense. Awesome job.....instant Sub , keep up the great work

[@jsanders299]

GT7 Here, I appreciate how you explain all these. Thank you.

[@jackhammell1926]

Was gonna just skip Sim hub but after watching this vid maybe I’ll try it. Thanx

[@BobFernando]

Perfect, this is exactly what I am about to dive into. Great timing squire!

[@AL.farmlife]

from all tutorials what I saw it's the best tutorial ❤

[@captainflatspot]

installed yesterday. works perfekt! Can't drive without it now. I don't think about it when I'm on the track. But if I turn it off everything feels "dead".

[@tedwaetford]

this video is gold. really well done and super helpful. had a buttkicker and simhub for a while, but never really had it setup properly. your mantra of 'less is more' with bass shaker effects is so true. i just had everything turned on - bad idea. and the independant live-tuning is just the business. thanks so much for sharing

[@2Old4Forza]

Glad it helped!

[@virtualmotorheads]

3 years later and I find your video. I have 4 bass shakers. One in each corner. Two under my seat and two under my pedals. I am hoping this will give me a good starting point. I will most definitely need to play around with the RPMS. It is vibrating the crap out of my pedals.

[@ToxicGreen357]

Just got my BKG2 hooked up. This is the exact vid I was looking for. EXCELLENT tutorial. It should be on the website Lol

[@2Old4Forza]

many thanks!

[@PixelGod240]

Omg I found someone with an advanced! I just got the new pro which is the advanced. Been looking for good settings thanks!!

[@jg1lipfert961]

Thanks for this, I was really struggling with one sound source for headset & shaker setup. This video helped me reset my approach and get my NVIDIA HD Audio configured as dedicated source for the shaker. On to fine tuning, but it's 100% better.

[@wayne9954]

Thanks for the video and sharing your settings! I just bought my very first buttkicker gamer pro 2. I'm a vr user myself and I cant live without anymore. Again great video and enjoyable to hear and watch.

[@2Old4Forza]

thanks for the comment! bass shakers + VR FTW!

[@wayne9954]

@@2Old4Forza o yeass. Cant wait to add 4 more. One for each wheel. So I'll be watching your other videos to. And subscribed instantly. I hope I don't bother you for asking this but One, if the effects feel to powerfull is it better to lower the main output effects or each effect individually. And do you know if low cut or higpass filter should be on and which Hertz range on the amplifier. I

[@2Old4Forza]

@@wayne9954 no need for any filters as you can set specific frequencies in sim hub. If one effect is too strong turn it down individually

[@BistoKid]

Just wanted to say a big thank you! I only have two cheap shakers but this really helped a lot!

[@PixelGod240]

Sorry for over posting… but damn man this is sooo helpful thanks for the great baseline and how to tune!

[@thedudeabides3403]

I love this tutorial mate, thank you for putting this together.

[@AL.farmlife]

subscribed and already got a license for simhub

[@nathengonderman1491]

TY TY TY TY. been trying to dial in some settings in simhub. great guide. Feels great now.

[@2Old4Forza]

thats why I do this! come join us for some racing on AC. discord link in the description and in the banner

[@FrauPlau]

What I did for a "Gas Wheel Slip" effect is to check the Use separate channels settings then map one of the effects to the front channel tuned for a Brake Lock or Understeer effect, then map the other to the rear channel. This sort of works like the old build but I have noticed some bleed over between the two channels.

[@2Old4Forza]

I tried that but could not fine tune each effect independently. I will definitely give it another shot, thanks for the comment!

[@umary04]

Loving the guide, keep it up!

[@garyrobinson7128]

Thanks from SWEDEN!

[@Mr_Jimbo]

Really informative, thanks for the detailed run through

[@2Old4Forza]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Matt-dh6yo]

AS USUAL with your vids, awesome stuff TY

[@Craigo87]

Could you do a follow up video that shows your cabling setup? I've looked into doing a similar setup to yours, two shakers with front and back channel setup including one Behringer amp for power. I would just like to see how you have wired it all up. Thank for your videos on this topic, they are very helpful.

[@2Old4Forza]

wiring is a snap. 3.5mm male to dual 1/4" male. This goes from soundcard out on PC into the inputs on AMP. Then just wire up 1 shaker on channel A, and 1 shaker on channel B and you are done. same as wiring up a couple of speakers

[@Craigo87]

Thank you!

[@menacegtr]

Useful vid for sure. I always use Simvibe with 4 Buttkicker advanced in Chassis mode plus one Aura under the seat in Extensions. You are running a thousand watt amp for a 400 max watt buttkicker and a 50 watt Aura. That sounds way to much power for those transducers. Are you just careful with the volume on your amp? i guess it's a quarter way up if that. I will give Simhub a go just to see if i can use it, If i can, i will be honest enough to come back here to give feedback

[@2Old4Forza]

i run the amp until i see it clipping on the lights, just like my time as a DJ. been running like that since i dropped this video

[@menacegtr]

@@2Old4Forza Well that's good to know. If my amp gives out, no need to worry about max watt figures. I have tried Simhub with the aura under the seat and must say am very impressed, the road rumble effect for kerbs is very nice. All these years and never looked at Simhub for bass shakers.

[@oznemur]

I just tried this and it's awesome! One minor thing is that there are very loud bass sounds in my headset now, which is sometimes uncomfortable.

[@2Old4Forza]

Strange. There should be 0 audio impacts from running sim hub. Double check your sound settings in windows and make sure audio is "default device" and your source for shakers is only "enabled"

[@oznemur]

@@2Old4Forza Thanks! I had enabled shakers in both my headphones and my Gamer2.

[@raysheppard9716]

This video was super useful. Thanks.

[@fireonmytarget8937]

This is a cool vid, I am on version 8.2.0 and some of the settings do not line up anymore. Would you be able to make a new video with the updated shaker ui?

[@PixelGod240]

Any chance of an update video? I’m sure sim hub has grown and I’m sure you have as well! I’m probably just being greedy since we have same transducer. On another note…. Have you ever followed any of “Mr.Latte’s” forum post on bassshakers and his isolation method?

[@2Old4Forza]

i have mad many conversations with mr latte. He is really trying to take tactile to the next level. I am still on the same 2 shaker set up and have not even changed my settings since this video.

[@PixelGod240]

@@2Old4Forza gotcha! Although I’d love to support him and buy the isolators I just can’t afford it so I made my own. Just used 60/60 double L-brackets. When I have the money I’ll buy the set for my pedals.

[@darenlim1584]

I just started trying out shakeit. It's very nice add. I'm just starting to test by clamping the shakers to chair legs. Trying to see how far the shakers should or can be. I had six shakers from an old home theater setup. Likely only going to have a wood rig, can't justify expenditures. Need to figure out where I'll mount them though.

[@2Old4Forza]

I have my shakers mounted on 1/8" aluminum plate and fixed 4 corners on my pedal box and seat mounts. But your idea should work. Wood actually transmits good tactile feedback

[@tomroberts7157]

Great help that. Cheers buddy

[@2Old4Forza]

Glad it helped

[@RevAshtray]

Great vid!! but I can't seem to get wheel slip dialed in quite right. Do you have any new info you could pass along?

[@2Old4Forza]

what sim are you on?

[@RevAshtray]

@@2Old4Forza AMS2 and AC. Front/Rear configuration. I tweaked it a bit more, turned down my Engine Vibrations down to 25% and put my threshold on wheel slip to 80.Then my minimum force to 10. Feels much better now.

[@2Old4Forza]

glad you got it sorted thanks for the info. always room for improvement.

[@robertstrobel7338]

Awesome video

[@2Old4Forza]

Your face is awesome roberto

[@robertstrobel7338]

@@2Old4Forza ha

[@daimodice1109]

Great job! thank ! but I really want to ask you, I don’t understand very well in English and it’s not entirely clear which Bassker is where and how many there are? Can you tell me? how many do they need? I saw somewhere that there were 5 pieces, 2 in front, 2 in the back and one big one on the chair in the back area - but I don’t understand how many amplifiers are needed then - and maybe you can tell me which setup will be optimal for racing - I will be very grateful to you !

[@2Old4Forza]

Check my other videos for visual. But 2 shakers total 1 under seat and 1 under pedals

[@PaulHolod]

Тоже шейкерами заинтересовались? Я сегодня почти весь день эту тему изучал. В общем к чему я пришёл. В идеале 4 штуки (зачем 5-6 - сложный вопрос), по одному на каждое колесо, установленные по углам кокпита, естественно, намертво прикрученные. В этом случае будет максимально информативно и реалистично. Использовать только с софтом (типа SimHub), ибо он использует данные из самой игры (эх, каждый раз как-то не по себе, когда называю симулятор игрой), если просто подать на шейкеры звук, то толку от этого не будет. Далее. Не вижу смысла переплачивать за Buttkicker, особенно когда речь о сразу 4 штуках. На рынке полно шейкеров по адекватной цене. Например, Dayton Audio BST-1 Bass Shaker, стоит в районе 50$. Усилок можно использовать один, автомобильный четырехканальный. Также нужна вторая звуковая карта, можно взять самую простенькую, только обязательно 5.1 (ну или 4.0, если найдёте). Вроде всё. А так вещь, похоже, очень крутая, думаю, даже подвижные платформы переплюнет. Сколько не пробовал их - не нравится, колбасит, кидает куда-то, бред, ощущение, что к тебе в машину залез какой-то идиот и трясёт твоё сиденье, мешая нормально ехать. Мозг не обманывается, он прекрасно понимает, что это не перегрузки, а если их невозможно сымитировать, то лучше уж без них. Что-то я слегка отошёл от темы)

[@joshlepley3725]

I know simhub has been updated since this vid but can somebody fill me in as to what "input" and "output" do as far as changing the tones? Or why do some need to be set to input as to output?

[@quantametric]

Did you ever find out the answer to this?

[@AL.farmlife]

amazing ❤❤❤❤ bravo

[@andykleine79]

Hi, thanks for the video! Inwas wondering what is the difference or when do u choose input or output on each efffect. I mean the ooption on the bottom right. Thanks

[@2Old4Forza]

that is a good question that I do not know the answer to. the sim hub discord is probably a good place to ask

[@tsunami6253]

This was the exact video I needed. I ordered a buttkicker recently was hoping for a good baseline to setup with.

[@2Old4Forza]

nice glad it helped you out

[@FULLNinja69]

That was a great video. Did you ever do one showing the layer 1 cabling?

[@2Old4Forza]

Thanks for the comment, not sure what you mean by 1 layer cabling

[@FULLNinja69]

@@2Old4Forza Just looking for how you cabled the whole thing up. From computer to amps to transducers.

[@andyj1610]

The tutorial helped me a lot. I still wasn’t able to get proper wheelspin feedback in AC though. Is that something that’s still not possible in SimHub?

[@2Old4Forza]

wheel spin definitely works in sim hub for AC.

[@andyj1610]

@@2Old4Forza oh ok. I am getting the same pulses like you had at 14:25 in the video. I tried reducing the threshold to 30 even but still didn’t work.

[@2Old4Forza]

tuning the threshold for wheel slip is pretty tough it is a very small window you need to find, and sim hub has changed A LOT since I made this video. I would keep playing with threshold if I was you

[@andyj1610]

@@2Old4Forza 👍🏻👍🏻 will try that

[@andyj1610]

@@2Old4Forza it worked. Had to play around for a bit and synchronising the game helped as well. Thanks 👍🏻

[@pilouuuu]

This video is one of the best on the internet! I have a few probably silly questions. I have 2 USB soundcards and they work perfectly with Simhub. But my problem is when I want to listen to music, watch movies or play other games. I can't get bass shaker and sound of the speakers at the same time. My Dayton bass shaker plays all the audios when using soundcard 1, instead of just play bass sounds. But soundcard 2, which is connected to speakers is not working. Is there a workaround this or need to buy a cable to split the sound to both speakers and bass shakers? Thanks for the video!

[@PixelGod240]

So road vibrations ….. I have the exact settings but I can’t figure out how you got the “threshold 7%”. Not sure I’ve tried sliding everything around to change that %. Any ideas? Also got the BK pro which is the advanced thanks for showing me how to do this thing!

[@3000911]

Great Video. I want to set the wheelslip for the front tyres only . In my simhub there is a rumble function "all" . Its Not seperatet in front an rear or left and right. I have the paid simhub Version. Do you have any idea?

[@bigbools3951]

Great tutorial.....any plans on doing an update?

[@douglasingram8881]

Great Video, perfectly timed to as I’m currently in the middle of a full on 80/20 build including a DD wheel setup. You mention in the video using a 1000W amp and good shakers. Can you tell me what your using please and or, what you would really recommend. I like to buy wisely by buying once. Thanks.

[@2Old4Forza]

All the hardware is in the description. Behringer inuke 1000 and buttkicker advance for shakers are the high points

[@Gorilla_Jones]

I have 6 ButtKicker Mini’s, will this software support 4 corners and shifter/pedals all from one sound card? Also, what amp would I use to run 6 Mini’s? ButtKicker says that the Dayton 1000 can do it but don’t provide any wiring diagram. Thanks

[@2Old4Forza]

It will support as many shakers as u have channels/ amps for. If you want shakers to be independent they need a dedicated channel. For 6 channels you probably need 2x 4 channel ams or 4 x 2 channel amps. I would start with 4 shakers on 1 amp and see how it feels you can always get a 2nd, or 3rd amp later. Dont skimp on the amp.

[@Gorilla_Jones]

@@2Old4Forza Finally got around to installing this as I was ill with heart surgery. How do I actually wire the buttkickers. I have 4 LFEs going to a sound town 4 channel and then two buttkicker minis. I have two sound cards. How do I actually wire this? What ports on the sound card? I see there are different channels on the sound card. I know, I'm dumb. LOL

[@AL.farmlife]

please make video on setuping RFactor 2❤❤❤ pls

[@riccardomaura]

Hi, question, but understeer and oversteer not present in simhub? Great job on your part, thanks

[@2Old4Forza]

Tire slip is an available effect

[@real-gtsimulators6232]

Hi guys, I have a question. I am running 4 corners and pedals and shifter. The pedals and shifter give awesome feedback. But my large Buttkicker LFEs, run by a 4 channel Sound Town 1000 watt amp hardly give any road texture, bumps, road surface in Assetto Corsa, I can barely feel them. I have the sound output for each effect cranked to 100% and the amp cranked to 100% During testing output it seems to be strong but in game hardly anything. Any ideas? Thanks

[@paulgreenwood69]

What setting do i need to do to make the gear shift feel stronger? I feel its not strong enough? Maybe unrealistic but i prefer stronger’kicks’ Especially in VR. Great channel. Subscribed.

[@2Old4Forza]

much appreciated. If you have the "volume" maxed out for gear shift your only other option is to increase the total volume and turn down other settings more to amplify the shift kicks.

[@paulgreenwood69]

2Old4Forza That would work. Thank you. Your videos are great. Easy to understand. Keep em coming:)

[@2Old4Forza]

@@paulgreenwood69 much appreciated!

[@MLNRCH]

Don't kknow if you can advise with this but unless I have the source for the shakers as th default, then they won't output a thing and only from my optical to my soundbar. I've tried everything I can think of and they just go dead once the game fores up uless they are on default Sim Hub ignores them and often goes into connection lost. Currently the setup is totally unusable. Heaphones the same btw, Cheers, Daz.

[@AL.farmlife]

can you make renew version on it

[@AL.farmlife]

pls make video of RFactor

[@PinkiesBrain]

what would you recommend? putting the shakers front and back or left and right? not only for racing btw but like for other games as well (like flightsim or even shooters) if you got any experience. (just ordered two shakers! Need info :D)

[@2Old4Forza]

front and back for sure if you have 2 shakers

[@PinkiesBrain]

@@2Old4Forza thank you very much for your help!!!! One more thing maybe. I got that the ahakers work well for specific games with simhub. But how do they work with normal stuff like watching movies and playing games that are not specifically supported by simhub is there a way to set it up in a way that i don't have to rewire something?

[@ajmmg6803]

Am I right in saying for some stupid reason Assetto Corsa doesn't pump out the data for the Road Rumbles (curbs) vibrations to work? Is there a workaround for this like pulling the data from suspension or something to at least get SOME sort of tactile feedback when hitting a curb?

[@2Old4Forza]

if you are talking fast vibration in the wheel you are correct. however. most rumble strips on real tracks are smooth and dont have texture to apply vibration

[@ewenblack4174]

How do u get the game screen minimized to tune as you play?

[@2Old4Forza]

using content manager set it to windowed and make the resolution small :)

[@frankconte264]

great video, I just purchased the buttkicker 2, and I have a question. I race in vr, vive pro, can i run the buttkicker through sim hub, or do i need to download another program

[@2Old4Forza]

Sim hub I am also a VR user

[@frankconte264]

@@2Old4Forza thanks, it works great

[@esmokebaby]

So i can have the effect of the fenatic pedals a lower price

[@mako4874]

Could you share ur settings file in the description pls?

[@markkmotorsports9764]

I'm using 2 ButtKickers (mine are Right/Left). When I test through Sim Hub, they work, but in game nothing. Really not sure where to go from here.

[@2Old4Forza]

that is very odd. I have never encountered that. does sim hub say "connected to XXX" game when you are running?

[@markkmotorsports9764]

@@2Old4Forza no, not that I have seen

[@richysracing9524]

Are these these really worth doing, 4 one either side, Dam i seriously didn't know these they don't all these settings, Im sold definitely going to look into getting some, To me the butt kickers look a lot better than these little dayton puck ones or are they good anuff, i really don't no,

[@2Old4Forza]

depends, the dayton pucks are super weak but you can feel them. if you want something a bit more violent / dynamic then bass shakers and a GOOD AMP are the way.

[@richysracing9524]

@@2Old4Forza yh kool i have a 7.2 karman hardon amp im not using think its 100w per channel 2 sub i have have, think its 1000 watts its not a cheap one bluetooth aswell

[@2Old4Forza]

@@richysracing9524 nice that should work, just confirm the impedance on the shakers and the amp and you should be good.

[@richysracing9524]

@@2Old4Forza yh think i found a decent one buttkicker ufe

[@2Old4Forza]

@@richysracing9524 those require HUGE amp power. I think you start out with the aurora 50W units, or the 100W blue square ones from amazon

[@wadegruber2119]

I downloaded this program, but when I click Assetto Corsa, It pops up a message that says it's going to delete my game folder and all settings, and the 'OK' button is already selected, and it doesn't even tell me why it needs to do this. Pretty bad feature, if you ask me. I can't find any documentation or posts on just setting up a game that is worth a damn. Not to mention, I'm using Content Manager.

[@wadegruber2119]

It was just my documents folder it wanted to delete. I backed up and then let it delete the folder, then moved my control .cfgs and .lut file back into the new folder. Everything is working now. It then tried to launch vanilla AC, I closed and then altered the launch path to Content Manager. It now launches right to CM. I brought my control and .lut settings back into CM, and it is all recognized fine. Then I easily set the sound device output, and I'm currently driving around an oval track tweaking the effects in windowed mode. This program is much better than Sim Commander. Just the fact that the engine vibration can be dependent on load and it automatically gets the RPM is so much better. And I can actually name and copy effects.

[@2Old4Forza]

@@wadegruber2119 dude you rock! Thanks for sharing your solution

[@wadegruber2119]

@@2Old4Forza No, you rock. Thanks for this helpful vid!!

[@2Old4Forza]

Make sure to find us on discord, u seem like a good dude discord.gg/mrkBhVd

[@emanuelesuccurro8595]

The kerbs working?

[@2Old4Forza]

the kerbs are hit or miss based on how they are modeled in AC, or your sim of choice. But when they are modeled correctly they are fantastic.

[@emanuelesuccurro8595]

@@2Old4Forza to me in AC e ACC, the plugin dedicaded (road bumbs) is not executable ad does not work

[@2Old4Forza]

@@emanuelesuccurro8595 interesting it been a LONG time since I have used sim hub on ACC but I do recall it working with no changes to my settings on V0.7 or so

[@rumontap5052]

How do you setup a 4 ch I have 4 LFE buttkickers I wanna add

[@2Old4Forza]

you will need a 4 channel amp, or 2x 2 channel amps

[@PhattyMcgee]

Yes please donate to simhub dev

[@esmokebaby]

Do shakers help with over reving or even tire sliping compaired to without

[@2Old4Forza]

yup both those effects are available in sim hub

[@esmokebaby]

@@2Old4Forza right but do it help with imersion and maby even lap time or throttle respons (like knowing to heavy or light on the gas

[@2Old4Forza]

@@esmokebaby yeah I use tire slip and its awesome. I dont like engine vibration at high rpm only at idle through 1.5k. But it's all personal preference

[@esmokebaby]

@@2Old4Forza so is there a new place to get simhub or is it shutdown

[@2Old4Forza]

@@esmokebaby is the link in this video dead? If so find them on discord and thanks for the heads up.

[@MrAvitazi]

Dirt rally 2.0 settings?

[@2Old4Forza]

these same settings work great on DR 2 as well, i just turn up the road texture more since its dirt

[@esmokebaby]

Looks like they took simhub off

[@joshlepley3725]

Off of what?

[@esmokebaby]

@@joshlepley3725 I can't remember lol maby off for download idk

[@joshlepley3725]

@@esmokebaby its up still