Simagic Haptic Reactor A Game Changer for Sim Racing (iRacing & Haptics)

[@KiliansCreative]

Have had these on my simjacks for about 6 months and it’s been a game changer in immersion and as an amazing tool.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Check out the settings in my second video, the settings in the first video were bugged! And honestly like you said they are a game changer

[@lusl77]

@@TerriblyRacing ho appena preso questi motori. volevo chiederti se si puo' usare semplicemente simpromanager x settarli. a me interessa abs per freno e tc per accelleratore. oppure devi usare per forza simhub? grazie

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@lusl77 you can use Simpromanager if you just want to use TC and ABS. Some games don’t output that data and in that case you’re better off using Simhub effects. But yes you can use just simpromanager

[@louiienation8497]

Would haptic motors be beneficial if you race GTP’s/LMP3’s/LMP2’s?

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@louiienation8497 I don’t see why not

[@privateblop9485]

fun trick for the poor : you can set the feedback to any audio source, so you can setup an abs sound. Not as efficient, but you get to know when abs kick in. I am using a big basshaker instead of simagic, work well too and you get all effects in one package, but you need a beefy amp to shake all the rig

[@jnkyrd.4106]

It’s not a cheat if anyone can go buy the hardware. It’s a paid advantage. Just like RL motor sports.

[@FerousFolly]

reasonable take, but there actually are quite a lot of hardware/motor restrictions in real motorsports.

[@mementomori4972]

@@FerousFolly What is that even supposed to mean? I can promise you, I'n a real race car, you feel the traction loss too and this little shaker is the next best thing, if you can't afford a motion rig with traction loss setup.

[@cjsawinski]

I use “cheap” Dayton base shakers under my pedal (fanatec CSL load cell) for the same purpose, and have used them for about 5 years now. It was a game changer for me (even on top of a load cell). Cost me about $50 but that was in about 2017-2018 so don’t know what they cost now. But you just need a couple shakers and a cheap usb amp. Run them through sim hub as well… I have added to them over the years so now I have a total of 4 on my rig… and contrary to most advice I don’t have them set up for “4 corners” so you can feel each individual wheel…. I have 2 set up under my pedals only because one just wasn’t quite enough to really feel the “shakes” through the pedal, but for about $15 (again in about 2018) adding a second one did the trick… these two are set up to do the same thing and just having 2 was more powerful than just a single one. My other two are mounted on my cockpit seat. One of them right under the seat (right under my butt), and the last one is on the back of the seat kind of at my lower back. These two shakers on the seat do a few different things, the one right under my butt I use for traction loss for the rear end of the car (so it kinda gives you that feeling in your butt when the rear end is braking loose), the one on the back of the seat also does this to amplify it. The only extra thing the shaker on the back of my seat does is gives you a slight punch in the back on gear changes. So ya all for under $100 I have 4 base shakers and two usb amps. 2 amps is the key… with sim hub each amp can be its own “channel”, so with two amps one is for the front axle and the other is for the rear axle.

[@serafinocistola8092]

Take a Pic of your configuration

[@PimBJJ]

I am looking forward to your setup video. Thanks for the work you have put in so far.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Coming soon!

[@0bzen22]

The F1 games have controller vibration system based on rear and front slip amount (one motor for oversteer, other, more binary, for understeer), and that was already considered borderline cheating, especially in wet conditions. I want to put that system back in BeamNG. I cant imagine how good that would be for pedals. I guess you could have one on the throttle, and on the brakes for front slip (understeer).

[@mattmerciez8144]

Thanks for the video, Bravo. The devil is in the details. A subsequent video showing the details would be awesome!

[@TerriblyRacing]

Will make one soon about the Simhub install and then how to mess around with the details and set it up properly👍🏽

[@mattmerciez8144]

@@TerriblyRacing Excellent, thanks. Interested to know specifically how you dialed in the Simhub curve (which paramater did you start with), and second how did you get the trace overlay to show while racing.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@mattmerciez8144 yeah for sure, will explain my best how to adjust the settings, unfortunately getting the trace on screen for you won’t be possible. I can do it whilst recording but not live on my screen. You shouldn’t want it on screen when driving you should feel the vibration whilst driving.

[@strasner_]

would love the in-depth breakdown of how to set up simhub, I’m super new and have no idea what I’m looking at lmao. I’m sure there’s plenty of guides out there but I really like the way you presented the information in this video. oh and I drive f4 so your experience is very relevant to me

[@TerriblyRacing]

New video coming soon, hopefully it’s as useful as the first video

[@walterswdf2]

I take it that "If you've just got regular brake pedals, this is going to be a little bit trickier for some of you" is British understatement for "Forget it, sucker, it's impossible."

[@TerriblyRacing]

Lots of people have set them up on different pedals it just requires more work. You’re gonna need to find some 3D printed mounts for your pedals and also purchase the p2000 pedals control box. There’s other videos online for how to use them with other pedals. Definitely not impossible 👍🏽

[@cjsawinski]

Sorry for all the individual comments for the different links. But that’s the amp you want and then choose between either base shaker. Only other thing you need is some speaker wire and some hardware and a few tools (a drill) to mount them to your rig or pedals

[@HeartbrokenHeartshooter]

All you need for Huesinkvelds is a screw and a washer.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Def like real racing and life in general. You find every advantage and aid you can to be the fastest. Def not cheating just helps you feel what we practice for. Ive always been good at finding the edge of abs activation in acc and ive always been good at defining that line of lockup in iracing. All thede did for me was allow me to know I was correct and just now helps me not have to think as hard about it which is nice yes and does help.

[@tompsmith]

Cheers for the vid dude, glad this popped up as a suggestion. Always been curious about the pedal feedback 🍻

[@TerriblyRacing]

Happy to help!

[@recipioct]

You can diy as well. It's not as expensive as buying pedals with them built into them and they can be more powerful.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Just note most other pedal reactors aren’t linear shakers and rotate, this is still great feedback but not as ideal as the Simagic Haptics

[@TBolt1]

A follow-up video would be appreciated. What racing cockpit are you using, too? Thanks for the upload. 👍

[@TerriblyRacing]

The cockpit is a Playseat Trophy, quite expensive for what it is but it’s super comfortable and looks great

[@tonyf9076]

Just bought a single haptic for my P1000 brake pedal, nice one mate, have a sub 👍

[@TerriblyRacing]

Thanks mate, appreciate it 👍🏽

[@emescub]

Great video mate if i ever finish my rig i will come back to this.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Great stuff, hope you complete it soon!

[@tkdmp5698]

I like the live graph feedback with commentary.

[@kostaandonovski4633]

Yes please show ud detailed video! This was awesome thanks man.

[@TerriblyRacing]

No problem vid coming Today!

[@justinware8789]

Nice vid. I'd love to upgrade, and this keeps me motivated towards the dream of haptics

[@TerriblyRacing]

Nice stuff bro, let me know when you do your upgrades and if you need any help

[@tdhitchins]

This was really helpful. I knew I needed one of these for braking but didn’t realise it would be so useful for the acceleration. I was going to buy one of these for braking and I already had a transducer I was going to use for the accelerator pedal. Might test it this way first

[@TerriblyRacing]

Good idea, let me know how you get on

[@tdhitchins]

@@TerriblyRacing would love to test it asap but I’ve got a back injury which has stopped me (sim)racing for the past 2yrs. Might finally get back on the track in a few months 🤞

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@tdhitchins fingers crossed for you bud, even if it’s not competitive, just get in the seat and relax, injury permitting 🤞🏽

[@tdhitchins]

@@TerriblyRacing cheers mate. You don’t know how much I’ve missed it!! It has got me playing some other games I wouldn’t have had the time for and I’ve enjoyed that tbh, but still……I wanna race

[@mementomori4972]

@@tdhitchins Just out of interest, what kind of pedals and seat do you use? I had back pain too. Was using a soft seat with a load cell brake pedal. Every time I pressed the pedal I would push myself far into the seat, which crated pain in my lower back. Couldn't race for more than 20min. As soon as I switched to a solid bucket seat (something with a fiber glass shell), my pain was gone,...and my braking got much better.

[@gokhankatp]

Hey man, thank for the video and i have a question. You have v3pedals and it has already abs vibration module, do you feel good with it or is it not good abs rumble? Do you prefer haptic, is it not enought to use original v3's own abs vibration module?

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@gokhankatp hi mate, sorry never had fanatec v3s so can’t comment, I do know these Simagic haptics are a big step though

[@gokhankatp]

@@TerriblyRacing hmm okey, thanks mate 👍🏻

[@steelereign]

Great vid! Question: is the haptic feedback dynamic? In other words, is the vibration 100% or 0%? Or, do they vibrate a little when traction is barely breaking, and a lot when you're sliding, etc?

[@TerriblyRacing]

No unfortunately they either vibrate at 100% or nothing, I think it’s because they vibrate at certain frequencies so therefore it makes it impossible to regulate the force so it’s either on or off

[@TerriblyRacing]

Sorry I have to acknowledge my last response is all true however with sim pro manager, the Simagic software, the force can be be modulated, so not sure why it doesn’t feel possible in Simhub, I will follow up

[@steelereign]

@@TerriblyRacing Appreciate the follow up. I'm likely going to order one for my brake, but just curious if there is granularity to the feedback.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@steelereignreinstalled SimHub today, there is granularity, you can customise how strong the feedback is and varying stages and strengths. New video coming soon!

[@steelereign]

@@TerriblyRacing That's good to hear! I just ordered my haptic (only for brake) yesterday.

[@racingwitherl9643]

I'll be getting these in a few months. really nice video. A settings tutorial would be welcomed.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Thanks the feedback dude, settings tutorial is coming very soon!

[@markhorsburgh76]

All I'd follow up with on this is that pedals maybe ought to start coming with some sort of feedback as standard, so that games themselves can start supporting it. Flexibility is a good thing, and the pedals are behind the wheels in that regard. As to the usefulness of it all, well it helps some, sure. Others would argue VR is an advantage, but I'm not sure that pans out in reality. But you can understand why some might think that, with the depth perception. And yet for all these extras, there's always some ass that will be faster than you using a Dual Shock controller.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Very true😂😂😂

[@mitchlewis535]

Super helpful! Thank you. (haven't tried it yet on my own setup. P1000 pedals, SimMagic motor, iRacing and SimHub) I stopped using the SimMagic motor a few months ago because I couldn't get it to stop shaking. I'm sure it was a setting that was wrong in SimHub, but I couldn't figure it out. I did notice that you somehow eliminated the unused SimHub options in your example. I'd like to learn how to do that. (maybe that would solve my issue)

[@TerriblyRacing]

Use my second video/part 2 to set them up, I changed the settings as the first ones were bugged originally 👍🏽

[@mitchlewis535]

@@TerriblyRacing Thanks! (searching for that part2 video now)

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@mitchlewis535 if you can’t find it go through my channel, any questions join my discord it’s linked in my latest vid

[@mitchlewis535]

@@TerriblyRacing Thanks

[@lukadabuca]

Nice one mate. Getting the p1000 soon so would love another vid. Thanks!

[@TerriblyRacing]

In the making

[@lukadabuca]

@@TerriblyRacing Legend 🏁

[@malice930]

Awesome video!!! I just got haptics last week. If you can, please make the simhub config video.

[@TerriblyRacing]

It’s coming tomorrow

[@brainbeatuk]

If your on a budget, get an aura interactor vest and stick it undrr pedals and connect to simhub, 20quid with an amp only need audio out on pc

[@zmmmzmmmz]

1:00 I'm not sure what you mean here...if you have just regular brake pedals compared to what? What is regular? What is more difficult? Does brand or load cell matter?

[@TerriblyRacing]

I just meant pedals that aren’t Simagic, Simagic pedals have mounts to fit the motors, other pedals might have 3D printed mounts

[@zmmmzmmmz]

@@TerriblyRacing so I might just need to print mounts for my Fanatec peddles? What's the cost/benefit of this versus using parts express tactile transducers?

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@zmmmzmmmz these are at least double as expensive I’m pretty sure, but the feedback is really strong and really useful, not hing to notice is these are linear feedback motors as opposed to rotary which is a benefit

[@Ася-й4ц4г]

Great video! We are waiting for the continuation!

[@TerriblyRacing]

Trying my best to get this done

[@barreh69]

Underrated content, you deserve more subs

[@DanielJUSTOU]

Thank you for this great detailed tutorial, will test Could you provide the values for the ABS of your generic profile (not the PCup one ;) ) (Pulse duration value) ?

[@TerriblyRacing]

No problem, I believe I use 80ms for the ABS but it really is personal preference

[@dathyr1]

Sim Hub must be very good with their accessories to make better racing for us. I have just a Thrustmaster TMX wheel controller and their heavy duty pedals - have had this for many years. I don't think this kind of info would help my racing - getting better. I also do not have a racing Rig and shaker motion systems. I just sit in a normal chair. Plus I don't belong to IRacing. and Just do the other STEAM SIM racing games. So doing this kind of fine tuning of race styles to be competitive would be a mood point for me at this time. You are more on a Pro level of racing than I would ever be to do this kind of tweaking. But, thanks for the great video and what is available to tweak things should I need to and have the elaborate hardware equipment to do so.

[@sensit_official]

You should the „Nitro Concepts Immersion Metahaptics“ Seat cushion. Seat of the pants feeling developed by real racing drivers for SimRacing.

[@akpanjennings]

Not cheating just a sensation or cue. You get cues in sensations in real cars when ABS it kicking in. It’s no more cheating than FFB telling you when you’re losing grip. Feedback like this should just be a standard buy to be more competitive

[@catnipherb]

Thanks for the video mate. I love that there's a graph showing brake lock and grip loss. Would Sim Hub work for Assetto Corsa Competitizione and Dirt Rally 2? I don't play iRacing. I play ACC mostly. And I got pedals nobody has heard of - Steel GT by BJ Sim Racing. And I have no idea if I could mount Simagic's haptics on them.

[@TerriblyRacing]

If you have a 3D printer anyone can mount them. Simhub also supports most games so should be ok👌

[@Titan145]

Love it would love to see the setup video

[@7hecouchpotato]

So I guess the brake pedals vibrate as well when you brake? Do the the vibrations feel different on the 2 pedals? Thanks for the vid

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@7hecouchpotato so the brake pedal reacts to wheels lock and is set to vibrate at 23hz the accelerant reacts to traction loss and vibrates at 41hz. The vibrations on both pedals are quite different due to the different frequencies. If they were the same frequency, I’m sure they feel similar on both pedals

[@7hecouchpotato]

@@TerriblyRacing Cool. Thanks for the detailed response. Will try out the settings once the speakers arrive!

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@7hecouchpotato I recommend using the settings from the second video. The settings in this first video are bugged/shit. I had a setting in my Simhub that was wrong and made all these settings wrong. The second video had the correct settings, if you join my discord, link in the yt bio. You can download all the per car settings I’ve made so far 👍🏽

[@JanVitvar]

Finaly someone show and speak about function when mounted on throttle iracing pcup. Thank you i will buy

[@TerriblyRacing]

Glad you enjoyed it, use the settings from my second video, part 2

[@WigSplitters]

Really good video dude, lots of potential

[@TerriblyRacing]

I hope the second video is as good, it’s really tricky trying to explain these settings

[@MINKIHLGTSPORT]

I dont get exactly what i feel during braking…. For example if i hit the Brakes (Porsche Cup) it rumbles but i dont think that i have wheel locking there… and if i keep the foot on the brakes to force a rear lock up i get no rumbles at all - so i have no clue what exactly i get here if it doesnt rumble like full when the tires are locking before i spin… (using ur settings for Porsche Cup)

[@TerriblyRacing]

Use the settings in the second video, wheels lock can’t activate in iRacing as it’s not supported, the vibration should come in when you’re roughly at the right threshold of braking

[@MINKIHLGTSPORT]

@@TerriblyRacing ah ok to if its rumbling i am roughly on the best possible braking force input? So if its stopping rumbling i should put less force of braking in?

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@MINKIHLGTSPORT whilst braking when it vibrates you are roughly at the right point, when the rumble stops you’ve pressed too hard or you’re not braking hard enough

[@JohnShoreuk]

What's your irating and how has it improved?

[@TerriblyRacing]

Now at almost 3k only started 5 months ago

[@MaciejKosciuk]

More simhub effects settings explanation please ;)

[@barreh69]

Have you made any for GT4/3 cars? Intrigued to know how you have those set up.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@barreh69 i do have a profile for gt3 cars now, just not in either of my videos

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@barreh69 if you join my discord, I can send you the settings in there, the discord is in the description of any of my latest videos/livestreams

[@barreh69]

@@TerriblyRacinghell yeah will do

[@RichardGardnerUK]

I have these on order, but I'm curious if it's possible to change the frequency of the vibrations in SimHub? When I got the HF8 I completely skipped installing their software and did everything through SimHub. Can you do the same with the Simagic Haptics? I saw other videos where the Simagic software allows you to specify certain frequency for each haptic motor.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Yeah you can specify a per motor frequency. One thing you can’t do is have two effects on the same motor with 2 different frequencies. So as long as you have different effects on different pedals you can have different frequencies.

[@JamesBBostock]

Any setup suggestions for the Porsche 992 GT3 R ?

[@TerriblyRacing]

I don’t have the car I’m afraid, i don’t know if it has ABS and TC but have you tried the Porsche cup settings from my latest setup video?

[@gokhankatp]

Btw, in iracing specially, we should not activate abs right? I mean the fastest way to brake is without abs right? Cause i bought a new alpha simagic base and it gives me abs vibrations and i suddenly realized before this abs impulses i was always braking with abs, but in real life if abs is activated you probably made a calvulation mistake and your car gonna be upset. So this blew up my mind, did i really drive 1 year with always activating abs? Or is it just a wrong software? Can anyone see or experience same thing and expecially you sir, did you realize same thing when you just start the using haptic sensors?

[@resellpanda88]

what feedback do you get from the clutch pedal?

[@TerriblyRacing]

Really sorry I don’t have the clutch pedal so don’t know about the effects

[@shawndixon4536]

Can the haptics only be used with Simagic pedals, are can they adapted to other brands? Also, I have been using SimHub for almost 3 years and I have just recently learned about the haptics built in. Haven't used it since removed my 4th screen and got a VR headset. I have to figure out how I am going to display it.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Yeah you can use the Simagic haptics on other pedals just have to find a way to mount them on your pedals, you search for 3D printed mounts for your pedals and it’s not too difficult, let me know if you have any questions

[@AB-308]

Wouldn’t want to race without these (on heusinkvelds) and a buttkicker

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@AB-308 I 100% agree, using a sim without them wouldn’t be the same

[@mementomori4972]

It is as much of a cheat as using base shakers, a motion rig, a direct drive wheel, load cell pedals, triple screens or even a solid rig for that matter. It's like it is with so many things in sim racing,...you don't have to spend a lot of money to participate, but it certainly helps. That said, I'm going to buy those shakers hehe. A piece of constructive criticism. You may want to turn the volume of your "background" music down a notch or two. cheers mate.

[@TerriblyRacing]

Appreciated, gauging the volume can be tricky😂

[@Hamelton44]

Great video keep doing your thing

[@coxyofnewp]

Oh yeah I got a set of P1000's and 2 haptics, So I will be trying this out this weekend... Many thanks

[@TerriblyRacing]

That’s great, use the setup video I just posted, the settings are updated as the original settings are no good/bugged

[@coxyofnewp]

@@TerriblyRacing Just an update - It took a bit to train my brain to act on feeling instead of sight , But oh yeah it works and I've noticed a great improvement.. Many thanks for the vid. sub'd and liked

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@coxyofnewp ah thanks dude, really appreciate you coming back, these haptics are sweet 👌

[@tactownturbotime982]

Very cool. Just got fanatic v3 pedals and gotta move up from gt7 I think

[@ewenblack4174]

Been doing this with front and rear buttkickers for years.

[@TerriblyRacing]

It’s good stuff isn’t it, love Simhub

[@brian_dc2]

has simhub since been updated i do not see traction loss *edit* nvm i actually was able to find it once i created a new profile as then it showed me the full list of effects

[@marcosicolo4542]

You can tell you’re losing the rear under braking on the gas pedal? Did I hear that correctly? This does sound a little bit like cheating

[@TerriblyRacing]

Honestly it feels unfair, so happy I’ve got them

[@Jump_Ace]

Would this work for ACC on PC. Any expected console support in future updates?

[@TerriblyRacing]

Yeah you need to have PC to use Simhub, Simagic software natively supports most games but only for TC and ABS not these effects that SimHub calculates

[@patricstandley]

Why did you not add ABS effects to the brake as well?

[@TerriblyRacing]

ABS is on the default setting, but I don’t normally drive cars with ABS

[@anthonyhandley825]

Have you ran across an issue where the brake motor is constantly vibrating not a lot but its noticable.

[@TerriblyRacing]

No i haven’t, when you say constantly vibrating what do you mean?

[@anthonyhandley825]

@@TerriblyRacing almost like a buzzing. Finally found what it was. I went in the MISC tab and uncheck the vibration on the pedals and it fixed it.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@anthonyhandley825 yeah you had iRacing feedback “On”. I don’t use it.

[@epicshade3463]

Its not cheating if it gives you actual feeling.Its called a simulator for a reason.

[@Photosbykev1]

Simhub is now upto 9.2.12

[@brentonedwards]

ABS is bad so you should probably care for it, and the lack of TC is not why the Porche Cup car is more difficult to drive.

[@robainscough]

Just like the real world of racing, he/she who spends the most $$$ wins.

[@TerriblyRacing]

It’s not just in racing, in real life too

[@reviewforthetube6485]

That's so not true tbh lol some of the fastest racers in sim right now are using 5 to 8nm wheelbases with 300 dollar pedals lol putting in lap times better then any of these youtubers with the best equipment.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@reviewforthetube6485 100% there’s some super talented drivers out there, just an FYI I’m not a KZbinr really this is my first proper video. Just trying to help everyone enjoy sim racing like me.

[@robainscough]

@@reviewforthetube6485 FPS and latency to server + auto blip + brake lock detection and adjustable brake stops ... sorry but the fastest racers in iRacing do Spend a fortune but they are unlikely to reveal that.

[@matthewbyrd398]

Not true.

[@grzegorzjur1765]

could you upload haptics settings to assetto Corsa competizione

[@integrasaurus]

Waiting for that setup video... 😂

[@TerriblyRacing]

It will come, just busy with work at the moment

[@TerriblyRacing]

Tomorrow 6pm🎉

[@mcbain0]

do these make sense if you drive formula cars in iracing? there's no ABS so not sure if it's even worth it

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@mcbain0 100% they do, join my discord, link in streams, profiles in discord for profiles

[@saren6538]

Pleased, do the Sim hub video mate

[@TerriblyRacing]

It’s up live now, if you use the bell and subscribe you’ll get reminders when I post

[@georgemarshall4107]

How do you get clutch to vibrate at bite point in simhub? If simhub is on the simagoc software doesn't work and vice versa. I want the throttle and brake vibration settings using Sim hub and clutch bite point aswell. Thanks in advance

[@TerriblyRacing]

Hi sorry George, I don’t have the clutch pedal at all so I haven’t set up and clutch bite point

[@kerreedrake]

This seems good. Share links.

[@andrewcrawford2093]

You can get motion?

[@deemo5245]

Wonder if verstappen uses this

[@TerriblyRacing]

I doubt it but I think all pros will have this soon

[@deemo5245]

@@TerriblyRacing yeah, of course he’s able to use a brake pedal. It’s just that he’s obviously not averse to wild cheating

[@grzegorzjur1765]

hey, will these haptic options work and be verified in Acc?

[@filipivan5125]

I hate u now, I was considering these as a nice to have but when u highlighted all the feedback features at the beginning I am sold! Most likely gonna order one motor for my break with 3d print attatcment and the controller box. Fuck ! 😂 (my wallet got mad, me on the other hand very excited)

[@brentmcknight5344]

I am struggling to figure out how this is considered cheating when all they do is replicate the type of feed back a driver would get from a real car. Yes it gives you an advantage but so does a load cell.

[@TerriblyRacing]

It’s like racing on a wheel with force feedback when no one else has it. Obviously everyone else has ffb because the game gives it to everyone however, this feedback comes from simhub and it’s so useful. I wouldn’t call it down right cheating however I do believe I have an advantage

[@markhorsburgh76]

​@@TerriblyRacing my Fanatec V3's throttle vibrates when slipping, but its support is down to the game. I'm sure you can mod other pedals with vibration motors too. Others might use bass shakers on their rigs. It's another tool, but like anything, it doesn't turn you into a genius driver.

[@brentmcknight5344]

@@TerriblyRacing that’s my point it is an advantage. I have seen interviews with drivers who hate sim racing due to the lack of feed back and they don’t think they will get any use from it. I believe this will change their mind.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@markhorsburgh76yeah simhib allows you to use these effects with other motors, they offer the strongest feedback but there’s definitely other options

[@RacingPCs]

Wheel slip when accelerating onto the accelerator motor and wheel lock/ABS onto the brake motor? Thanks!

[@TerriblyRacing]

Traction loss on rear tyres on accelerator. Wheels lock on front and rear tyres on the brake

[@markuskenel]

Wheel Slip somehow doesn't work for me since its doing weird stuff at about 60-90% throttle input, so i disabled it again

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@markuskenel yeah I don’t use wheel slip, use traction loss

[@andypang6416]

@@TerriblyRacing Traction loss on my simhub only specifies Left or right. It doesn't specify Front/Rear

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@andypang6416 yeah that’s ok, mine doesn’t either it is right and left

[@rickflare6893]

These pedals are good on long drives

[@TerriblyRacing]

For me yeah 😂

[@beck367]

Thanks for the video but those settings for F4 are dreadful! Pedals vibrate too much! Did few F4 laps at Zandvoort and pedals were vibrating pretty much the whole time. Smallest steering wheel movement causes haptics to vibrate, even on the straight.

[@TerriblyRacing]

You are correct, I do apologise, I had a simhub problem, I’ve released a second video with updated settings, Part 2 video is out now

[@TerriblyRacing]

I reinstalled simhub because i had a bug, latest video has corrected settinsg

[@Flexium_GG]

Can the p1000s be attached to the csl elite v2?

[@TerriblyRacing]

The haptics and other equipment can’t be bought and I think there might be a 3D printed mount online, have a Google for the mounts

[@Flexium_GG]

@@TerriblyRacing can or can't be bought? Should I get the p2000's + these haptics or just say fuck it and get the simucube active pedal?

[@sebastianberger746]

Thats cool. Something that make it more easy so the Driver make less differences. Cool one day we Race on a straight Line and everybody can feel Like a worldchamp. Its really hard to see that gamers promote Systems that are Bad for the Game.

[@TerriblyRacing]

In a real car you feel the slip, and you can feel these effects, this is just another tool to increase the immersion and help real life racers feel more comfortable in sim racing. You’re being extremely pessimistic

[@sebastianberger746]

@@TerriblyRacing in real life you can't practice so much. Don't compare real life with simracing 😁 just ridicoules. the typical double standards of gamers. If it fits, reality is included, otherwise any exploit is welcome.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@sebastianberger746 bro you sound depressed are you ok, why so negative?

[@sebastianberger746]

@@TerriblyRacing yes i am totally fine. I Just told you whats the problem in Simracing is. The easier you make it, the worse it is for the competition and ultimately for the fun. If you think about it seriously you'll know what I mean. But you decide to protect yourself and try to take the conversation in a personal direction. The truth is you could Drive without it Just not as fast as you would like too. And it seems you couldnt handle it. So you need Help to be happy with the game you choose. I think you are closer beeing depressed than i ever could be. Have a nice day.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@sebastianberger746 have a good day too my friend, I just want people to enjoy their sim racing as much as me 😘

[@allanchapman6250]

I don’t think it’s cheating .

[@TerriblyRacing]

It’s a bit like cheating, it’s definitely an advantage, just whether you deem it unfair

[@paulcrabb7167]

Good stuff, if it’s banned in the rulebook it’s cheating… if not then you are good to go.

[@laszloearlerc7155]

Can you do the same with clubsport v3 pedals

[@TerriblyRacing]

You just need to find some 3D printed mounts to fit the Simagic stuff

[@laszloearlerc7155]

@@TerriblyRacing I mean the haptic ffb motors that are already on them??

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@laszloearlerc7155 I’m not sure but I think you can toggle the option in motors output. I think they are supported but don’t quote me

[@antok86]

feel like i will need to add threadlocker to all my bolts if i install this lol

[@Dartoras]

once a cheater always a cheater > Immersion

[@TerriblyRacing]

That’s what I’m saying 👌

[@colors3037]

What about for dirt racing will this work

[@TerriblyRacing]

Yeah for sure but it might be a lot less useful as you’re constantly braking traction, you would have to move the thresholds much higher as to not trigger vibration for say a 5° slide and maybe you’d want vibration at a 30° but I can’t say how useful it’d be for you

[@colors3037]

Oh you can change the degree of slide for when the vibration starts? That might be goated for dirt

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@colors3037 through the settings explain in the second video you can adjust how the vibration comes in and how soon and strong

[@colors3037]

Also I don’t see the p2000 module on the website I’m thinking about buying the p1000 pedals and the haptic motors for them

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@colors3037 it’s called p2000 HCB HAPTIC control box

[@garythesnailsdad]

The best part is, guys that spend 10k on a rig. Still end up losing to an alien who uses a G29 and a 8 year old pc. Happens every time.

[@Max__apex]

Nice man

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

Simagic haptic pedal reactor is so cheap bro. I should have done this earlier.

[@TerriblyRacing]

They’re not that cheap but compared to the rest of sim racing they’re great! Use the settings from the second setup video

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

@@TerriblyRacing I live in Canada and I have a local distributor for simagic so it kind of works out. Was looking at sim3d rumble kit, but anything from the UK kills me in taxes.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@EluciaDeLuteIma just remember to Mount these on pedals that aren’t Simagic you’ll need to buy 3D printed mounts to mount them, a power supply and the p2000 control board, each vibration motor is about £65 but yeah they are great

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

@@TerriblyRacing Ah yes. I sent my friend a file already and he'll print it tomorrow.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@EluciaDeLuteIma good stuff, use the settings from my second video, these settings are no good

[@MarkGreenhow]

Not cheating because it doesn't actually work the way the video implies. Yes it's great for extra feedback, but iRacing doesn't output any data on loss of traction into simhub. Unless something changed recently.

[@TerriblyRacing]

I think you’ll find the algorithm knows pretty damn well when there’s traction loss, I seriously feel like these are almost cheating

[@MarkGreenhow]

@@TerriblyRacing simhub doesn't know when the wheels are locked or spinning. That's why you need to change it per car

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@MarkGreenhow no you need to change it between the cup car and the f4 because they’re massively different cars with very different power levels and dynamics. Have you not used shakeout motors in Simhub before?

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@MarkGreenhow go watch the part 2 of this video for more information

[@MarkGreenhow]

@@TerriblyRacing I did. You also replied to someone else saying what I said, iRacing doesn't output wheels locked, you can estimate it based on testing but it's based on pedal pressure. Track surface changes make a difference on whether 30% braking pressure locks the wheel or not. I've tried this and found it gave me no advantage. I do wish you all the best with the channel though.

[@fifesimracerguy455]

Do these work on v3s

[@TerriblyRacing]

These work regardless of pedals, all you need to do is buy the right stuff and download Simhub, Someone will make some 3D printed mounts to put them on v3s

[@asdsad17]

it's not cheating. it's pay 2 win.

[@MP_7]

The fuck is he using gloves for?

[@TerriblyRacing]

When you race several hours each day with 25nm of torque it can start to rip the skin off

[@MP_7]

@@TerriblyRacing got it, thx

[@brentonedwards]

ABS is bad so you should probably care for it and the lack of TC is not why the Porche Cup car is hard to drive.

[@eclipse245]

So you're getting feedback you wouldn't get in the real car through haptics that wouldn't normally happen. Interesting.

[@TerriblyRacing]

In a real car you would feel the rear end sliding out but instead of spending £10,000 on a motion rig I can feel the slip through my pedal instead. Don’t get too pressed it’s just a video 😉

[@eclipse245]

@@TerriblyRacing Not getting pressed, but how do you feel flip through haptic feedback in your foot before you feel it in a DD wheel? As soon as a car begins to rotate you'll feel the wheel go loose

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@eclipse245 on a lot of cars the wheel going loose is not enough, the haptic motors really helped me get a better feel of the car and I’ve gone up a bunch of irating since setting these up. Also the more sideways the stronger the vibration so I get a better idea of the slip angle

[@phaedrussocrates7636]

Figures

[@AllardWolff]

Had the haptics on my P1000 pedals for about an hour. They're insanely overrated. I feel everything I need in my hands.

[@TerriblyRacing]

I’m sorry my friend you’re using the wrong settings. I wouldn’t be making this video and buying a second one if they didn’t help me go faster, Try out the settings from my latest video Part 2

[@erind_racing]

Stop with the clickbaits please. Im using the simucube active pedals and I still run the same lap times. Ive had the rumble motors before. They wont do anything for you. 8k ir driver here. The fast guys wont bother with this. Insted of focusing on this crap just learn to understand driving. Just my 2 cents. I see you are a 2k driver and 1.5k on sportscar. If you think this will make you a better driver. You are wrong. No offence

[@TerriblyRacing]

Sorry my friend I think you’ll find that you are wrong. If you are already quick in a sim, these might not help much, but for people struggling to jump into sim racing these haptics provide amazing feedback… WHEN SETUP CORRECTLY. They can have lots of useless effects but when those are tuned correctly it feels amazing. It has helped me massively going from 1.3k Irating to 2.5k, I only started in December 23. Don’t hate them till you try them…

[@erind_racing]

@@TerriblyRacing I think you missed my comment where I said that I have had the vibration motors before. What you are doing now I have tested three years ago. On my simucube active pedals now i can access those effects through the simucube software. Nothing is a cheatcode. Only the ABS feeling can be somewhat helpful. Knowing how to brake and knowing how to set up your pedals properly is much more important than spending so much time on simhub.

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@erind_racing of course it’s important, but you’re not reading what I’m saying, go try the settings from my latest video, the feedback is super useful. I don’t make money from KZbin I’m sharing this content because I love the feedback and I want others to know what they’re missing. You may have active pedals but you don’t have my brain, try them and get back to me. They may not make you faster as you’re already very quick but I promise these provide insightful feedback you didn’t know you were missing, thank you for the support 🙏

[@mkatakm]

Come on, there are no ffb on the pedals of real cars.

[@cor_racing]

Really stupid and click bait thumbnail mate..... WHY would haptics be illegal or what ever you were implicating....

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@cor_racing I love mine and they’ve given me a competitive advantage so to me it feels a bit like cheating. Title also says how is this not cheating. Thumbnails need to be interesting to garner attention it’s just how KZbin works make, sorry if you didn’t like the information in the video

[@cor_racing]

@@TerriblyRacing oh no no, I like your video and info provided! What I hate is click bait and misleading thumbnails!

[@drybonesmalone6974]

Already wasted my time - who doesn’t know this?

[@Astarmentoring]

I’ve seen no video talking about the settings for traction loss and wheels lock, just generic videos that don’t give any good details

[@lockonhd8004]

Same, it was only to get the effect of the Simucube active pedal with spending the money, but the way this was explained really shows you the benefit of having haptics if set correctly. Well done

[@TerriblyRacing]

@@lockonhd8004 thanks I appreciate it, I hope these helped you guys, I’ll make a follow up explaining how to setup Simhub settings yourselves