SIMMONS Titan50: How To Add More Toms

[@mikehenderson4623]

Just got this set yesterday with two expansion packs and was wondering how I was going to attach the fifth tom/third crash to the module. This was exactly the info I was looking for. Thank you so much. You've got yourself a new subscriber.

[@KeithronPowell]

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[@mikehenderson4623]

Done. Thanks again. I haven't played in 17 years and I'm eager to get back into it. You've been a tremendous help. 👍🤘

[@shanetheshame5873]

Thank you for the info i was wondering how to do this to improve the set.

[@KeithronPowell]

You’re welcome

[@bradfinger1424]

I can't get mine to switch..I've used four different dual zones splitter and did like you showed and I just get the same sound from both sides ..even tried multiple times and ways of hooking in I don't get it ...

[@KeithronPowell]

Make sure it’s female stereo to dual male mono 1/4 in jacks.

[@1InvisionProductions]

Can you split the cymbals as well as the toms? It Would be cool to add more cymbals.

[@KeithronPowell]

Nope.. checked

[@greedfox7842]

those tom outputs can be run into cymbal pads and set to cymbal sounds though.

[@Ddronron1]

Great info. Thank you.

[@KeithronPowell]

👍🏽

[@davidmost5206]

Where did you get the splitter? How do you mount extra toms to the rack?

[@KeithronPowell]

I didn’t mount them… I have an extra snare stand. Also… guitar center for the splitter

[@CameronVining]

Hey im getting the simmons titan 50 b ex and i want to upgrade the ride to a mc18 by simmons and it is a triple zone and i know that works with the titan 50 b ex it says it on their website but would this method of splitting cymbals work on it? Or would i lose my triple zone ride say if i want to add a mc13 as a splash cymbal? Splitting off of the ride cymbal

[@CameronVining]

And i was wondering because i know the titan 50 doesnt support the new triple zone mc cymbals by simmons but the titan 50 b ex does and is there any alternative if my method doesnt work?

[@KeithronPowell]

Once you split the cable you’ve removed some of the ability of the cymbal. Not sure how it’ll work.

[@CameronVining]

@ Alright thank you

[@Ddronron1]

Will this also work for adding new cymbals?

[@KeithronPowell]

Yes

[@JohnnyBees]

Thanks for the great information Keithron. After splitting the toms and changing settings to get different sounds, does this enable the different (additional) sounds on the factory preset kits, or just on the user kits? Thank you sir!

[@KeithronPowell]

I’m confused by the question… if you split the sounds you can choose a different sound from the module it should matter if it’s user or standard. Even if it’s only module it’s still a good deal.

[@JohnnyBees]

@@KeithronPowell thank you for the reply. I appreciate it. You've given us a lot of very useful information!

[@KeithronPowell]

@@JohnnyBees you’re welcome

[@Supermeng888]

Hi, will these additions work on a Titan 20 also?

[@KeithronPowell]

Nope

[@jeremycurtis529]

If i wanted to upgrade this kit in the future and bought dual zone toms would both zones work ? with or without a splitter etc. Thanks for all the informative videos on these kits they have helped me a lot.

[@KeithronPowell]

Ok…. The Titan 50 pads are NOT dual zone. The cable and the module are. So… you can split the cable and add extra toms and each will be single zone. It doesn’t matter if the pad is dual though. The only Tom pad that is dual zone is the snare. Now if you get dual zone toms you can swap out the original and have dual zone but you’re limited to only the 3 or 4 toms. By splitting you can add up to 4 additional toms for a total of 8. You can however assign any sound to the extra toms for cymbals or whatever is in the module.

[@jeremycurtis529]

@@KeithronPowell Awesome! Thank you! Yeah I was just thinking that in the future if i were to buy some dual zone pads it would be cool to swap them out with the stock single zone pads and have both zones work and it sounds like it would. I appreciate the response!!

[@davidmcmutrtey979]

I’m having a hard time finding a splitter/coupler combo that works. I have tried about 5 different splitters from Amazon and no luck. I only get one symbol/tom to work. Am I doing something wrong or is it the coupler? I should add, I am using the expansion kit for the SD600 since it is as half the price of the 50

[@KeithronPowell]

You have to make sure it’s stereo (female) to left and right out (male). It sounds like you’re using all mono.

[@davidmcmutrtey979]

@@KeithronPowell I have been buying stereo to mono splitters, and stereo capable couplers and I’m still only getting one Tom sound. Do you have a link to ones you know work?

[@snort100]

@@davidmcmutrtey979 Hosa STP-201RR Right Angle 1/4" TRS to Dual Right Angle 1/4" TS Insert Cable, 1 Meter Black. Just got for sons Titan 50. Cable is plenty long enough to spread out between toms and cymbols. This plus a stereo trs coupler and you are all set.

[@DigitalConfusion1]

@snort100 Thanks for info, will order from Amazon. Total newbie here, is the coupler like this one on Amazon:? Frienda 1/4 Inch TRS/TS Coupler Female to Female

[@davidmcmutrtey979]

@@snort100I have tried about 6 different brand of trs couplers and haven’t had any luck. Only 1 symbol works. Using the splitter you suggested.

[@johnbeavers8236]

Thank you. Going to pick this kit up. To be clear, we can add up to 8 toms including bass pad or just the toms? Thanks! Also can you share where you got the splitter accessories?

[@KeithronPowell]

Yes… you can split each tom. The cables are available at Guitar Center

[@KeikoFXDesigns]

Now does it have to be Titan 50 only? Or can I use other brands to expand the kit?

[@KeithronPowell]

You can other brands but you can get the expansion at the website

[@KeikoFXDesigns]

@@KeithronPowell So basically I can add 2 more toms and split the other channels for cymbals...? Am I correct? If so this is gold.

[@KeithronPowell]

@@KeikoFXDesigns yes

[@KeikoFXDesigns]

@@KeithronPowell Another question is it possible to use other cymbals from other brands?

[@cajunproductions4337]

I have the exact same kit. I didn’t buy the coupler, and just bought the splitter. I’m using it for cymbals, but It doesn’t split the sound. Essentially, I can’t change the sound coming from the added cymbal. Does the coupler make a difference?

[@KeithronPowell]

If your splitter is not left/right capable it won’t split properly. It’ll be red and gray/white. If it’s not that’s the issue

[@KeikoFXDesigns]

Bass drum is just a mono channel. I can't use triggers period. So I had to get a mono splitter

[@KeithronPowell]

I explained that the toms could be split… never mentioned the bass… you could’ve added a double bass pedal to it though.

[@KeikoFXDesigns]

@@KeithronPowell I did. I decided to go with the OnTriggers they're great only problem I ran into that they are mono and not in stereo so I had to get a mono Y splitter to connect to my Ontriggers.

[@KeikoFXDesigns]

@@KeithronPowell I think it works with the bass drum as well. I just needed to get a coupler and then bam done! You've proved me wrong. Well done.

[@Bruce-w8h]

Forgive my but is the coupler stereo or mono?

[@KeithronPowell]

You have to use a stereo to mono. The plug on the drum is stereo… you’ll notice the 2 stripes…

[@Bruce-w8h]

@@KeithronPowell Gotcha I’m a show me kinda guy not read it kinda guy. Your videos are about the best online. Time to expand, expand expand.

[@1InvisionProductions]

The problem I'm running into when I use a splitter and added an extra Tom is the sound is a lot lower on "splitter right side" then "splitter left side" are you noticing the same thing, that one side (Tom) is louder than the other... And if so, how did you fix it?

[@KeithronPowell]

I hadn’t noticed that but you can turn it up in the app or on the module.

[@1InvisionProductions]

@@KeithronPowell I have it turned up to the max. They don't have separate volume controls for dual zone. It's weird that you're not experiencing it, I wonder if it's my splitter?

[@KeithronPowell]

@@1InvisionProductions in the video you should hear that it’s balanced. It’s likely the splitter.

[@keithconner]

i just saw this video for the first time greta video by the way. so, expanding more toms my question. you would have to add or purchase another cage for them to be added correct?? if so, the cage is probably not going to be able to link to the existing cage you have already? do you have an idea of how it would be. what im trying to say i guess it would not be a wrap around like an acoustic kit it would have to sit off to one side right?

[@KeithronPowell]

Honestly… you’d have to use snare stand or something. I don’t think you can connect another set to it.

[@markdaire4708]

Hey Keithron, I have a Simmons SD1200 kit and wondering two things: Is there a way to add more toms and cymbals other than the expanded pack and when programming and tuning them I am trying to get a good "thump" on the toms where there is no "ringing" or echoing. Do you know how to get that done?

[@KeithronPowell]

I need to get a 1200 module. I don’t have one but from what I understand, the module didn’t change much. You can add more toms by splitting BUT you will lose dual zone capability. Each tom will be a single sound. So it depends on what’s important. The true only way to expand is the expansion kit.

[@ManuelPerez1406]

So I guess if you have an extra cymbals instead of another tom, you could split it from the Tom so instead of 2 Toms split you can have Tom an cymbal?

[@KeithronPowell]

Yep

[@KeithronPowell]

You just can’t split the cymbals

[@taytayfpv]

I think I've seen a guy do it with a dual zone head ...I guess it splits the rim trigger and center trigger and u send one to the crash cymbal and edit the sound to whatever u want .... But you lose the options of hitting the rim on the dual zone because it's sent to the cymbal ....if that makes sense lol.

[@pocojoyo]

WOW, 3 videos on the same kit. Almost 45 minutes and he doesnt play it once. BORING

[@KeithronPowell]

Play or review? My next one I’ll play some.